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    April 1999

    Letters are posted here a week after they appear in The Iranian Times.

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* Relationships:
- Immature and insecure

- Beyond the curtain
* Pahlavis:
- Salavat!
* Prejudice:
- Iranian slave tarde

- Idealizing Blacks
* Scammers:
- Damesh garm

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* Relationships:
- Immature and insecure

- Beyond the curtain
*
Scamers:
- Damesh garm
- Zerangi
- We're not alone
- No better than others
- Monumental kharaab kaari

* Fiction:
- Amateur night?
- Disgusting
*
Poetry:
- Feminist extremist

* Kosovo:
- Christian Holy War
- Peacekeeping?
- Damned if you do...
- At a loss

- Milosovic's bloody trail
*
April Fools:
- I'm offended
- Get a laugh
- Comedy Central
- Sense of humor
- A wonderful luxury

- Sorry for myself
- Important points
- I called Senator Feinstein's office
- I am disgusted

- Loved it
- Laughed so hard
* Pahlavis:
- Salavat!
*
Prejudice:
- Iranian slave tarde

- Idealizing Blacks
- I had three black girlfriends

- The heart, not skin color
- Noble... but not good
- Righ on
- Will not "marry down"

- I guess I was fortunate
- Get out your armor
- No monopoly on prejudice
*
Women:
- Taught to be subservient

* Music:
- Dubbing "Sound of Music"
- That which we all are
*
13 Bedar:
- Understandable

* Khatami:
- Could fuel hatred

- Worst choice
*
Iranian-Americans:
- Divided, unorganized

* Tehran:
- Pointless

- Really embarrassing
* Farah:
- Best of Iran
*
Minorities:
- Big elephant


Wednesday
April 28, 1999

* Immature and insecure

The author ["Real Iranian girls?"] makes gross generalizations, which may or may not be true in the experience of other people. His across-the-board labelling and stereotyping makes one think he is mentally no more than half of his expressed 28 years of age.

He askes: WHAT MAKES ANY IRANIAN GIRL IN THE WEST BETTER AS A WIFE THAN A REAL WESTERNER OR A REAL IRANIAN GIRL IN IRAN?

Nothing makes any Iranian girl in the West or in Iran or a Western girl better or worse than the others, as a wife or otherwise. It is the individual that makes a difference. And with each individual comes a background and a set of life experiences which have served to form that person and makes them unique in their own way.

Maybe one is more appropriately suited for the author than the other, considering his seemingly lacking sense of security and self-esteem as a man. Maybe he needs a virgin so as not to be reminded of his, shall we say, subpar performance?

Aref Erfani

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* Beyond the curtain

I felt so sad for Mr. Cyrus Raafat when I read his article ["Real Iranian girls?"]. I felt bad for his parents, as they have failed to raise a decent, reasonable, and open-minded human being.

It appears that this young man does not understand the concept of a healthy, loving, equal relationship with the opposite sex. He lacks the maturity of a real man, values a woman solely on her virginity (a piece of cake?!!!! a piece of meat?), and has no respect for women whatsoever (in Iran or abroad, Iranian or not).

If Mr. Raafat had only a little experience in love and relationships (which I doubt) he would understand that if you love and honor a person (a woman in his case), if you trust and truly know her, if you are planning to share a life together, virginity aside, nothing else could make her be less in your eyes.

Mr. Raafat should stop being so arrogant and understand that he needs to grow up (hopefully a lot), to re-evaluate his prehistoric thinking and ideas, to see beyond the pardeyeh bekaarat if he is going to share the rest of his life with a woman. Virginity can be faked, but love and understanding cannot.

Gita Elmi

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Tuesday
April 20, 1999

* Iranian slave tarde

So true, and so unfortunate ["Siaah Sookhteh"]. You are very very right, and I hope for the same things as you. You wrote what I had in my heart for a long time. Just some detailes: I don't believe America was built on the ideas of democracy. Democracy is NOT the same as capitalism, although the social system of America seems to lead people to belive so.

Iranian ideas of supremecy does not start from their immigration to America. Although we are fortunate enough to not have racial ideas against our fellow Iranians and consider ourselves the same, we have had the attitude of racism against foreign races for ages before America even existed.

Note the terms "Siyaah Zangi" and "Kaakaa Siaah" which start from Iran's era of overseas travels and the import of slaves from Zanzibar.

The reason Iranians now feel that the White European race is the "right" one has root in the nationalist movement of the mid 19th century Europe. These ideas were imported to Iran by "Iranologists" such as Brown, Hertzfeld, Meyer, Girshman, and many others, as well as European educated Iranians who saw the European nationalism as a way to distinguish Iran from the rest of the Middle East and somehow wipe out the "shame" of the defeat in to the Muslim Arabs at Ghadesiyeh.

Khodadad Rezakhani

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* Idealizing Blacks

I am not sure what Ms. Nadjmi is pointing out here, the subtitle reads "Prejudice towards Blacks and other non-Europeans" - but the force of the article is pointed at Iranians adopting Western aesthetic standards ["Siaah Sookhteh"].

Though her protest against Euro-centrism is valid, she seems to glorify African feautures - "the ebony almond eyes, gentle flat nose, and voluptuous red lips".

Perhaps she should not be one to judge those who glorify adoption of another racial groups; indeed her entire article sounds like a justification of a racial fetish. In this woman's case it happens to be people of the African race.

The only difference between her idealizing Blacks and those idealizing Europeans is superficial - the objectivization and fetishization of "the other" is a common psychosocial phenomena.

I also notice Ms. Nadjmi works for the U.S. government, and we all know familiarity builds attraction, and the government by and large is very Black.

Babak

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Monday
April 26, 1999

* Damesh garm

Ashkan joon, daasham, das vardar ["Aaberoo reezi"]! aaberoomoon raft yani chee?! damesh garm eshghee! saf-e Welfare kojaast!? yeh eeroonee oomadeh America haalaa daareh pooleh naftesho pas meegeereh!

Zendeh baad eerooneeyeh moftkhor!

Kambiz Mursal-Abadi

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* Salavat!

On behalf of all Iranians with reasonable taste, I would like to express my utmost gratitude to His Royal Highness Ali Reza Pahlavi for shaving off his mustache. (Salavat befreseen mosalmoona: Allahoma sale alla ... :)

For god's sake what was he thinking?! Those who have browsed through the pictures in the Iranian Lovers home page at "www.irani.org" know exactly what I'm talking about.

Who knows, maybe now that His Royal Highness looks normal the Pahlavi dynasty will once again have a chance of regaining power on the world stage! (Salavatt: Allahoma sale...)

Concerned Iranian Constitutionalist ("mashrooteh-khah" a.k.a. "Taghootee")

Kamyar Yaghoobee

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Friday,
April 23. 1999

NONE

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Thursday
April 22, 1999

* Christian Holy War

I read Mr. Tehranian's comments about the genocidal war of extermination being carried out by the Serbs ["Why Kosovo?"]. His ability to meticulously manuever around the facts about the horrendous atrocities being carried out against Muslim women and children is a disgusting, yet masterful, example of obfuscation. Bravo! ... FULL TEXT

Ali Sadri

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* I had three black girlfriends

This is a response from a siaah-ookhteh-e-vatani: from what I know, nobody got lynch-mobbed because of the color of their complexion in Iran ["Siaah Sookhteh"]. So please don't compare the Iranian 'battered' sense of pride with the European Supremacy ideology.

In different stages of my life I had three black girlfriends and even to this date my Iranian friends talk about them with envy, so lets not over-dramatize & confuse the issues. As with any other race, it's hard & in some cases futile to change the elders' conservative views. But it's always good to know that your granddad wasn't the Grand Wizard in the local KKK.

Esphandyar Rohrabi

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Thursday
April 22, 1999

* Christian Holy War

I read Mr. Tehranian's comments about the genocidal war of extermination being carried out by the Serbs ["Why Kosovo?"]. His ability to meticulously manuever around the facts about the horrendous atrocities being carried out against Muslim women and children is a disgusting, yet masterful, example of obfuscation. Bravo! ... FULL TEXT

Ali Sadri

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* I had three black girlfriends

This is a response from a siaah-ookhteh-e-vatani: from what I know, nobody got lynch-mobbed because of the color of their complexion in Iran ["Siaah Sookhteh"]. So please don't compare the Iranian 'battered' sense of pride with the European Supremacy ideology.

In different stages of my life I had three black girlfriends and even to this date my Iranian friends talk about them with envy, so lets not over-dramatize & confuse the issues. As with any other race, it's hard & in some cases futile to change the elders' conservative views. But it's always good to know that your granddad wasn't the Grand Wizard in the local KKK.

Esphandyar Rohrabi

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Wednesday
April 21, 1999

* Zerangi

I have lived in Canada for almost 30 years. I have a few selected Iranian friends and I hardly do any business with the members of our community. This is not because I no longer love Iran or lost my passion for it. This is purely the result of my past expereience in dealing with my fellow countrymen ["Aaberoo reezi"].

We, Iranians, cherish the thought of being "ZERANG" which is a term that can hardly be translated into English. Ideally, Zerang means to be clever and bright. In practice, however, an Iranian who has earned the title "Zerang", is often a crafty liar, a cheat, an opportunist, and untrustworthy. One could say, a huge and dark side of our culture is summarized in one word.

Unfortunately, I am not surprised to hear about wealthy Iranians living in California on welfare. Until we put a higher value on our principles and self-respect over and above our personal gains, a lot of us will continue being zerang without being clever or decent.

Masoud Almassi

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* Amateur night?

What is this amateurs night ["Midget"]? I hope the author of this piece has another job.

Ali R. Shemirani

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Tuesday
April 20, 1999

* The heart, not skin color

In response to the letter "Won't marry down"

Dear Sara,

Thanks for your response. It is very informative but misguided. Regardless to what you consider yourself to be the truth is, you're not white. I don't say this as a put down just merely stating a fact. Be it White, Black, brown, yellow, or red we are all from God and no one is superior.

Before I met my girlfriend I knew racism existed everywhere but was under the impression that it was more toxic here in America. I have received e-mail from all over the world most from Iranian women but some from Iranian men. Every e-mail that I received was of support and empathy. My girlfriend was the first Iranian women I had ever really spent time with. The fact that she is Iranian had nothing to do with the way I feel about her. The reason I love her is because she is a very good person whom I admire and respect. Thanks to the Internet, I know have a lot of new Iranian friends write me since I submitted my letter... FULL TEXT

Michael

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* Noble... but not good

Noghrey writes: Please do not promote the ideas of the woman who chooses Blacks as boyfriends ["Siaah Sookhteh"]. Although tolerance of other races and cultures is a noble idea, it is best not to try to ask the public to accept these ideas based on such isolated cases.

Noghrey@aol.com

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Monday
April 19, 1999

* Disgusting

This story is disgusting ["Midget"]. I think it is inappropriate and misleading to publish this article in the same column where many interesting and well-written articles have appeared in the past.

Yahya Fathi

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* Right on

Shalizeh Nadjmi's article was brilliant ["Siaah Sookhteh"]! I seriously hope that you'll provide us with more of the same astute and poignant writing. She hit the nail right on the head and held a long overdue mirror up to our community. I've never understood some of our bigoted and racist attitudes as it seems oxymoronic!

Why do we as a new minority feel it appropriate to react in such a fashion? After all didn't we leave our home in order to get away from backward thinking? And finally if anything, having been mislabeled and misjudged ourselves in the past 20 years, we should be more tolerant! Kudos Shalizeh!

Banafsheh Zand

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Friday,
April 16, 1999

* We're not alone

To single out a few greedy Iranian thieves for fruad is not right ["Aaberoo reezi"]! After all many friends from the South of the Border, many associates from the South Eastern Asian nations, good number of Middle Eastern and African Moslem, Christian, and Jewish brothers, and sisters, and a greater number of blu- eyed European junkies are in active partnership with our Southern California Iranian community of corrupt citizens!

Of course, we haven't mentioned all other American friends whom have been milking the system for more than 50 yeras. To be exact since 1938. So, the system, in most part, is corrupt, and corruption breeds corruption.

What about the guys whose parents are using Social Security checks, even though they never lived in the U.S., or ever worked here, and never paid taxes, and yet live in Iran, and get checks to the tune of a minimum of $654 a month! What would you call this, and how would you characterize it?

Reza Azarmi

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* Will not "marry down"

[In reply to the African American in love with an Iranian woman:] Many Iranian relatives do not want their children, especially daughters, to marry Americans or Europeans, but especially Blacks.

Despite the fact that we are also discriminated against, we like to view ourselves as White and thus superior. This is a complex that exists in our culture. Your friend may be able to tell you that the lighter an Iranian is, the more beautiful s(he) is considered. Class issues are very important in Iran as well as in the diaspora.

Whether or not you are professional, well-mannered, handsome, or from a middle/upper class family in the U.S., in my experience, to Iranians, you will always be considered a lower class person. It is hard for a family to accept their daughter "marrying down".

I warn that you may receive malicious messages from Iranian men. Many of them are adverse to the idea of "their" women being taken away by other ethnicities, but especially by Blacks and Indians (from India). Here is an article that appeared in The Iranian that may be of interest to you ["Siaah Sookhteh"].

Sara Norouzi

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Friday,
April 16, 1999

* We're not alone

To single out a few greedy Iranian thieves for fruad is not right ["Aaberoo reezi"]! After all many friends from the South of the Border, many associates from the South Eastern Asian nations, good number of Middle Eastern and African Moslem, Christian, and Jewish brothers, and sisters, and a greater number of blu- eyed European junkies are in active partnership with our Southern California Iranian community of corrupt citizens!

Of course, we haven't mentioned all other American friends whom have been milking the system for more than 50 yeras. To be exact since 1938. So, the system, in most part, is corrupt, and corruption breeds corruption.

What about the guys whose parents are using Social Security checks, even though they never lived in the U.S., or ever worked here, and never paid taxes, and yet live in Iran, and get checks to the tune of a minimum of $654 a month! What would you call this, and how would you characterize it?

Reza Azarmi

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* Will not "marry down"

[In reply to the African American in love with an Iranian woman:] Many Iranian relatives do not want their children, especially daughters, to marry Americans or Europeans, but especially Blacks.

Despite the fact that we are also discriminated against, we like to view ourselves as White and thus superior. This is a complex that exists in our culture. Your friend may be able to tell you that the lighter an Iranian is, the more beautiful s(he) is considered. Class issues are very important in Iran as well as in the diaspora.

Whether or not you are professional, well-mannered, handsome, or from a middle/upper class family in the U.S., in my experience, to Iranians, you will always be considered a lower class person. It is hard for a family to accept their daughter "marrying down".

I warn that you may receive malicious messages from Iranian men. Many of them are adverse to the idea of "their" women being taken away by other ethnicities, but especially by Blacks and Indians (from India). Here is an article that appeared in The Iranian that may be of interest to you ["Siaah Sookhteh"].

Sara Norouzi

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Thursday
April 15, 1999

* No better than others

Unfortunately, we're no better than anyone else ["Aaberoo reezi"]. Shock to the system! Unfortunate as it may be, there are good and bad people in every country, with every religion, with every skin color, and in all ages. So, why should it surprise anyone to find out that we, Iranians, actually do scam the [welfare] system [in the U.S.]? Wake up people. What's the old saying: "az maast keh bar maast"?

Alireza Shemirani

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* Monumental kharaab kaari

I am not be surprised ["Aaberoo reezi"]. On a regular basis I study the Iranian community in U.S. This is a mild form of cheating as far as our esteemed expats are concerned. I am reminded of a CNN report back in 1997 when they did a minute clip on Iranian immigrants in U.S. A lawyer claimed that they are the best and brightest minority group in California. I wonder in what way are they the best and brightest?

The American immigration is also being cheated by Iranians, not to mention a number of local and federal programs. I am amazed by this talent. I mean I have heard that people get their social security checks right in Tehran. And they live off it quite grandly.

But we should not be embarrassed. I can cite an examples of Iranians abiding by the system as well. Too well that is. One must not blame these people for cheating the system. They often consider the U.S. as a land of milk and honey and assume that everything is up for grabs. It is no aaberoo reezi, it is kharaab kaari on a monumental scale.

Nader Naghshineh

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Wednesday
April 14, 1999

* I guess I was fortunate

I very much enjoyed Shalizeh Nadjmi article that sheds light on racial prejudice ["Siaah Sookhteh"]. It helped to clear up much of the confusion I have had. It began years ago when I was watching an Iranian movie, in which two Persian children were engaged in a heated discussion. One of the child actors turned to the other and angrily stated: "Your father's from Africa!"

Well, I was puzzled by that statement - it didn't make any sense, for it was obvious that both of this boy's parents must be Iranian. Then it occurred to me that the statement about Africa was meant to be an insult. That realization was very discouraging.

To accept some notion of "European superiority", is not only sad, but also dangerous. It would mean that anyone not of European ancestry is somehow inferior - even Iranians. We don't need this kind of thinking in today's society. Iranians are a great people, and should be proud of their Asian heritage.

Being a Black female in the U.S. was not always easy, but at least my family firmly taught me that being Black was something to be proud of. I try to instill that same pride in my half-Black, half-Persian children.

I guess I was fortunate. My Iranian husband knew by marrying me he would have Black children. And he believed that would be wonderful.

Dorothy Nowroozian

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* Taught to be subservient

Dear Laleh Khalili,

I have read both of your articles relating to women in Iran ["To live or to be alive?", "Not their fault"]. I have lived more than half of my life in North America. I am not in a position to comment strongly on the life of women in Iran, but I should have more say than another Iranian man since I have experienced how a girl is treated in Iran.

I was haunted by images of losing my virginity when I was a girl, since to lose it was to take away the honor of my family. I was taught to be subservient. Thus I hid my true desires like many did.

You might think my family has a low class status. On the contrary, my father is an engineer and my mother a teacher. Class and education does not matter. I was not alone. Thousands of girls in my school and my class, in streets, on TV, thousands everywhere heard what I heard and saw what I saw.

This sort of treatment is not unique in Iranain culture but many others as well. Not long ago a friend of mine came to Canada with his wife and demanded her to follow him and SERVE him. She still had no power. She had NO SAY. You might wonder if I followed the dominant culture like sheeps:

Did I follow them? NO
Did I bring shame to them? NO

Now that I am a woman, a proud woman, I have followed no one but my own wisdom and heart. I have brought honor and continue to do so. I can only praise what Iranain women are doing in Iran fighting the unfightable. I admire their courage and hope they never give up.

Gloria Malek
Computer Analyst

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Tuesday
April 13, 1999

* Dubbing "Sound of Music"

We (Film magazine in Iran) published a special issue on dubbing in August 1993 and I wrote an article about dubbing musical films in Iran.

[In regards to the Sound of Music, ashk-haa va labkhand-haa] I believe Ms. Soudabeh Safaeiyeh sang for Maria, Nazila Zand-e-Karimi for Liesel, Rashid Vatandoust for the Captain and Homayoun Moezzi-Moghaddam for Rolf.

Other singers for secondary parts were: Simin Ghadiri, Azita Azarmi, Shamsi Shadmand and Nasrin Azarmi. The translator of the lyrics was Firouz Falahati, the poet who rewrote the lyrics was Touraj Negahban and Ali Kasmai was the dubbing manager .

Houshang Golmakani

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* Feminist extremist

In response to this so-called poem ["Reborn"], I echo the concerns of one of your earlier readers who wrote a letter complaining why The Iranian has such a one-sided stance on things. I would have to agree with that reader that this magazine presents too much of a liberal perspective on issues, amply exemplified by the posting of this "poem".

I support showcasing literary and artistic works by Iranian artists and poets, but this poem attempts to be more than justa literary piece: it touts an extremist feminist viewpoint. This kind of extremist ideology is by definition dangerous and I don't think it deserves the attention it's getting by being posted in this forum, especially given that most readers would likely be hostile to such an extremist agenda.

Or if the editor of this magazine is going to post such trash at least he could balance it by posting some other trash, say an advertising for the Iranian-American Republican Party, or somthing like that.

Nariman Neyshapouri

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Monday
April 12, 1999

* Get out your armor

I loved Ms. Nadjmi's piece in The Iranian ["Siaah Sookhteh"]. This was as good as it could get. I salute her hopeless bravery and intended martyrdom, and I hope she has a strong armor ready. I can already imagine her boycotted wedding, the pointed fingers in the streets and the whispers and skewed glances of all the iranians. But I hope she will always remember that there once existed the house of Capulet and the house of Montague, and a revolution can start with only one kiss!

Ramin Tabib

Minou

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* No monopoly on prejudice

I read with interest the piece on prejudice towards non-Europeans ["Siaah Sookhteh"]. A few points:

- To my knowledge the Staten Island never has served as an immigrant entry point; perhaps she meant the Ellis Island; though the last immigrant admitted to the US through the Ellis Island was probably no later than late 1940s. Can we please have some fact-checking at The Iranian?

- I don't know if the average Iranian has "engraved" prejudicial images into his/her inner beliefs. But certainly we don't have a monopoly on prejudice. Tribalism seems to be ingrained in all cultures. Certainly skin color didn't play a big role when the Hutus were massacring the Tutsis in Rwanda to the tune 800,000.

- If there are Iranians who modify their appearances to look more European, it is an attempt to fit in, which in and of itself is not negative. In fact, it seems to exist in many other immigrant communities, even well-established ones; just ask the occasionally blond and very much Jewish Bette Midler and Barbra Streisand.

- I find it somewhat ironic that the writer seems to be using the terms "Iranian" and "Persian" interchangeably (even though the latter effectively eliminates 60% of those living in the land known as Iran) yet has sharp criticism for those Iranians pre-occupied with the their so-called Aryan past.

N. Behzad Fazel

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Friday,
April 9, 1999

* She has never told her family

I am a handsome, well-educated, professional African-American male who met and fell in love with a beautiful, well-educated, professional Iranian woman. We love each other very much but she has never told her family about me. They are constantly trying to fix her up with Iranian men for marriage.

She is always telling me how frustrating it is to not be able to tell them that she has already met someone that she loves (me) and that she isn't looking anymore.

We sometimes talk about a future together but she is really afraid of what her father and family may think. I truely love this woman and hope to marry her someday. Please write me back. I need to talk to someone.

Eternally hopeful

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* Damned if you do...

I just finished reading Mr. Tehrani's article on the Kosovo war situation ["Why Kosovo?"]. As I recall, when the Bosnians were being driven out of their homes or massacred by the Yugoslavian army, many of us Iranians commented that the mere reason NATO or the United States in particular is not intervening is the fact that the victims are Moslems. Now that the West is actually performing a positive role, some of us have managed to come up with absurd scenarios as to why the United States has begun taking military action.

Why do we always have to be so suspicious about everything? This story is very simple. Milosovic got away with murder twice. His intentions in the region are very unclear. You don't know where he will attack next. Better stop him now.

The massacre of the Kurds, Cambodians and Africans are all valid points and must be dealt with separately. Let's not confuse the issue here. Just because the West did not stop the killings in Rwanda, it does not mean they should not stop the killings in Kosovo. Two wrongs don't make a right. I guess you are damned if you do it, damned if you don't.

Ghassem Namazi

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* I'm offended

Sorry. I don't appreciate the humor of the Senator article ["Iran is a great country"]. As an American, I'd love to see the lines of communication between both Iranians and Americans open - as well as, eventually, the lines between our two governments. I don't see the humor in this sad situation.

And, frankly, I'm offended in the portrayal of Americans in it. These stereotypes (dumb American) along with characterizations of Iranians (militant terrorists) are exactly what we need to overcome in order to have this dialogue. Let's, at least, begin with a worthy site such as yours but not adding to these stereotypes.

Marla Zometsky

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* Get a laugh

I read the letters that some uptight readers wrote in response to your April Fool's prank ["Iran is a great country"]. These people have got to get a life and chill out. Whoever even said that Iran wasn't a great country and the Iranians weren't the cat's meow?! It's this obsessive sense of false pride that will never allow the Iranian mind to grow out of it's emotional huvel.

Get a grip folks. I read the very same piece about Diane Feinstein and Barbara Boxer and laughed. I'm also Iranian though, I seem to have a sense of humor that some of the whinning readers truly seem to lack. Thanks for YOUR humor The Iranian! Here's wishing all you a relaxed and FUN filled new year!

Banafsheh Zand

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Thursday
April 8, 1999

* That which we all are

Listening to the lyrics of ashkha va labkhandha (Sound of Music in Persian) brought tears to my eyes. The years gone by; the memories and people left behind. And that which I am today; that which we all are today.

Behrad Fardi

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* Peacekeeping?

The author of "Why Kosovo?" writes: "Instead of Anglo-American bombing of Iraq or NATO attack on Yugoslavia, the world could have by now established a credible United Nations peacekeeping force to intervene in cases of outright state aggression or genocide. That course would have been far less costly and far more legitimate and humane."

While the idea is quite honorable in theory, the author seems to have lost sight of the practicalities of such an approach. What makes such a "peacekeeping" force credible? The stamp of the U.N.? The Iraqi fiasco does bear the U.N. stamp. One can argue about its legitimacy but the war on Iraq and the ensuing military activity is under the auspices of the U.N.

How exactly would a "peacekeeping" force gain access into a sovereign country (i.e. Yugoslavia) without either the cooperation/permission of that government or by force (outright ground war)? The former was an option but did not work (Yugoslav government did not agree) and the latter is still an option - albeit an expensive one in terms of human lives on both sides. In addition, while the cause of defending the Kosovars is novel and humanitarian, it may not be strong enough to get the public (read votes and money) to support it. Then again, it is too early to tell. It is only day 15 of the bombing.

In addition, who determines where the peacekeeping force should go? As the author has mentioned why not Turkey (to protect the Kurds), or Afghanistan (ostensibly to protect the women) or various locales in Africa? When is it intrusion and meddling in the affairs of a country and when is it peacekeeping? And most important of all who is going to provide the resources (equipment and personnel and money) for such a force? What exists now, whether NATO or U.N., is as close to such a force as possible. And of course, its legitimacy is debatable.

Aref Erfani

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Wednesday
April 7, 1999

* At a loss

Dr. Tehranian's interpretation of the war against Yoguslavia was quite interesting since he himself admitted that no one seems to have an answer to the riddle of why NATO is there ["Why Kosovo?"].

He shares with others a nascent sense of not understanding this conflict within the framework of the traditional politco-social studies. Is it imperialism, capitalist expansion, war-mongering or plain and simple humanitarianism?

He is not alone, everyone from my own mother who always blamed everything on the whim that "there must be something in it for someone," to even best socialist magazines such as "The Nation" (www.thenation.com) are pretty much at a loss as to how to interpret this within the leftist frame of thought.

May I offer this explanation which occured to me when I was buying a travel guide recently. Maybe, just maybe, map publishers such Rand McNally are paying Milosovic to do this in order for them to print a whole set of new atlases and maps with yet another county added to the world. Other than that, we just might have to aceept that the plight of hundreds of thousands of Kosovo Albanians being driven out of burning villages is cause enough for NATO to do this.

Ramin Tabib

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* Milosovic's bloody trail

I admit that I'm a simple man who doesn't see the many hidden political forces that cloud Dr. Tehranian's view of NATO's campaign over Serbia ["Why Kosovo?"]. In contrast, what I doubt most is what Dr. Tehranian sees as most clearly: "... that an opportunity for peaceful resolution of international and inter-ethnic conflicts is tragically being lost." I thought that the repeated visits of the U.S. Special Envoy to Yugoslavia and even the visit of the Soviet prime minister were ample opportunities.

In looking at what is happening in Kosovo today, I can't help but remember that President Molosovic is the same man that spearheaded the humanitarian tragedy in Bosnia. In judging his actions, we have the luxury of knowing that it is not his first time to "ethnically cleanse" an entire city. In fact, his pattern of actions have traversed a long and bloody trail.

As nearly half a million woman and children pour across the borders, many without their sons and husbands, this is not the time to explore theoretical possibilities for a U.N. that might send troops in places where there is genocide. The fact is that such a U.N. body has never existed, and with the weakening of Russia and rise of the United States, perhaps never will.

Reza Shadmehr

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Tuesday
April 6, 1999

* Understandable

In "15 Bedar" you wrote: "Year by year our Persian festivities will become less and less Persian. But we'll always have each other." That is understandable. It happened to the British, Irish, Orientals, Indians, Africans, and now Iranians. This situation is also true for Iranians who live in Europe or other places.

Kids grow up and understand Farsi but do not talk Farsi. They listen to rap music instead of traditional Iranian music. Is this bad? I do not know the answer. If you do not like it what can you do? Take the family to Iran for at least one month a year. Dollar is 805 tomans now and you can buy airline tickets for $770.

Loved the pictures. I wish I was there. It is a blessing to live in a metropolitan with a large Iranian population.

Hosain Massiha
(exiled in Louisiana)

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* Comedy Central

The Iranian Times is a news organization, not Comedy Central. I am of course referring to your April Fool's prank "Iran is a great country". Also, what is interesting is the notion put forward by at least one of your readers that irresponsible journalism is somehow covered by the First Amendment (you know, freedom of the press). Freedom of speech is a right guaranteed for those with opposing points of view. Your credibility as a reliable source of news has in my view suffered a lot.

Shahram Mostarshed

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* Sense of humor

Dear Ali Hashemi-Nejad

Every one tries to make a dollar at the expense of something or someone, it is what makes the world go around. I believe that it will be a more tolerant and peaceful world if we all had a sense of humor and did not take ourselves so seriously ["Iran is a great country"].

I respect your opinion, and do share some of your concerns, but I do not find the solution standing on a higher intellectual plateau, throwing insults at others, for in the realm of things, who is to judge one's superior or inferior intellect?

Babak Yektafar

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Monday
April 5, 1999

* A wonderful luxury

I enjoyed your rather tasteless April Fool's joke - it did make me smile but it was rather too close to the knuckle ["Iran is a great country"]! I really had a good laugh though when I read the letter by Ali Hashemi-Nejad. To claim cultural and class superiority and yet to not be able to spell invites hilarity - not sympathy.

Humor is a wonderful teaching tool - and the responses to your prank have made me think about the incredible luxury of free speech. It is not purely an American luxury - it is a luxury that people try and uphold everywhere around the world. I hope The Iranian Times will make more of the story about a court case in Iran reported in this week's Economist (March 27-April 2) entitled 'Stop that laughing, please.' The fortnightly magazine Adineh was banned for carrying a story with the headline 'Is joy lost in our city? Is laughing a sin?' The article told the story about a family dining in a restaurant and openly enjoying themselves when they were asked by a man if they were not ashamed that they were laughing. This was obviously too much for the group called the Headquarters for Combating Vice and Promoting Virtue - they went to court to close the magazine and were successful.

As we wander around what Mr. Hashemi-Nejad calls our 'cultural wasteland' he and the rest of us can thank our lucky stars that we are free to poke fun, to misspell 'inebriated' (even when we presumably are not!) and to criticize our politicians when they are silly - without the threat of losing our livelihoods. Mr.Hashemi-Nejad should learn to lighten up or rethink the privileges he claims by living here - of course should he choose to return to Iran I think we could all heartily recommend him for a job at the Headquarters for Combating Vice and Promoting Virtue!

Minou

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* Sorry for myself

What an awful joke ["Iran is a great country"]. I'm really sorry for myself for being a subscriber [to The Iranian Times]. You are running a media and these kinds of jokes are not acceptable at all. Can we trust you anymore? Have you ever heard the TV or radio stations in this country [U.S.] giving the wrong information ... or just joking about it?

Katayoun Hashemi

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Friday,
April 2, 1999

* Important points

What a truly awful April Fool's joke ["Iran is a great country"]. Still, some important points regarding the senators' political interests were made. Those two nitwits could never be accused of not knowing which side their bread is buttered.

Shahin Shahin

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* I called Senator Feinstein's office

It was such a disappointment when I called Senator Feinstein's office to find out that your story ["Iran is a great country"] was completely false with no foundation whatsoever. It seems that your writers imaginative mind is in a high gear, writing such a scenario, placing it on the "biggest TV station in history in Los Angeles ever." Please give a little bit of consideration for the intelligence of your news recipients next time. Report the truth please.

S. Yadegar

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* I am disgusted

The Iranian times makes a mockery of Persian culture and heritage as witnessed through the type of articles posted to the site in question ["Iran is a great country"]. The collective intellerctual acumen of those in charge of producing such worthless information accurately portrays the class of Iranian people living in the cultural wasteland known as Los Angeles. All of you are peasnts enemberated daily by images of "gendehs" like Leyla Foruhar and dillusions of grandeur while all along you are low class "bazaaris" selling the collective Iranian soul to make a dollar. Please don't send e-mails to those such as I who are culturally your superior and reside in a class level exponentially higher than yours. You should be ashamed as much as I am disgusted!!!

Ali Hashemi-Nejad

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* Loved it

I loved the piece on Senators Barbara Boxer and Diane Feinstein ["Iran is a great country"]. Sounds just like a goof any typical and ignorant American could easily make.

Alireza Torkzadeh

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* Laughed so hard

Thank you for your enlightening "interview" with Feinstein and Boxer ["Iran is a great country"]. I laughed so hard, that I got dizzy! It was great.

A. Hadj

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Thursday
April 1, 1999

* Divided, unorganized

This in response to the letter, "She didn't apologize". I have to agree with Manavi. But I was not really surprised. What did we expect from Senator Boxer? We are one of the most divided and unorganized well-to-do minority (actually, sadly enough we don't even have that title officially) in the U.S. I really don't blame her.

Politicians in a democratic society merely respond to whoever that has a louder voice. Louder voice means who donates money, attends $500 per-plate dinners, VOTES, boycotts, hold demonstrations (if needed while keeping your cool), etc.

We for all practical purpose don't do any of the above and until we do we won't really get any respect from people like her. I am not from California, like Senator Boxer. This made me really angry given the substantial Iranian population in in this state. So my suggestions are:

1) get your citizenship so you can vote and make a positive changes. President Khatami followers are doing this successfully/skillfully and have made great inroads by voting,

2) make appearances when these people are running for office and voice your legitimate concerns,

3) all American Iranians in California should start a petition and express cocern at her comments and her bogus apology.

I am not an expert in lobbying but at minimum I would send this to her office in California and the National Democrat headquarters. The change has to start from us. Simply reacting to one's response will not improve our condition greatly. We need to start from step 1 and 2. We also need to listen to legitimate concern of U.S. politicians as well.

S. Amirghodsi

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Wednesday
March 31 1999

* Big elephant

I was greatly interested in an article I read some time ago about what members of religious minorities such as the Bahai faith followers are going through to get basic education in Iran ["Illicit education"].

This is an issue of great importance, and not enough attention has been given to it. Like racial issues in America, it is controversial, and highly significant. Ignoring and disregarding such injustice by our fellow countrymen, is like what a friend said: pretending the big elephant is not sitting in on the couch in your living room.

We will not attain unity and peace in Iran, unless we learn how to protect our minorities and our defenseless, until we teach ourselves equality, love and unity. Until we appreciate our differences, and learn that a garden with flowers of different colors and fragrances looks much more fascinating than a garden with only one plant.

Neda Kamranpour

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* Pointless

Is it just me, or was the "I'm no pimp" article the most nonsensical piece written as of late in The Iranian? I should hope readers will not be subject to such absurd and pointless pieces as this in the future. Let us continue with the normally exceptional writing and diverse topics of interest that appeal to the more intellectual reader.

Behbahani, Massi

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Tuesday
March 30, 1999

* Really embarrassing

What is the purpose of posting this story ["I'm no pimp"]? It's really embarrassing. I am not visiting this site anymore.

Ali Taleghani

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* Best of Iran

[Farah Pahlavi] represents the best of Iran: dignity, compassion, intelligence, beauty, depth, liberty, womanhood and forgiveness ["Iranians of the Year"].

N. Ansari

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Monday
March 29, 1999

* Could fuel hatred

I read your article on Charshanbeh Suri in Iran ["Fire with fire"] extensively and appreciate the efforts that you and your collogues have done. Alas, I also tend to believe that your scrutiny of such symbolic issues is where the misery of our nation rests.

The fundamental changes that President Khatami is formulating and the struggle for change is not about "Chaharchanb'e Souri" or other trivial matters. The struggle for change is about the soul of our nation and its evolution into a democratic Islamic nation. I could perhaps compare your efforts to that of a journalist only concentrating on the behavior of spectators in a vital soccer game.

The actual game Madame, is the one being played out on the corridors of Mr. Khamenei's residence on Azerbaijan Street and the Presidential Office on Pastor Avenue. Your posting could only fuel the hatred of Khatami's enemies while contributing very little on what Khatamisim is all about.

Mahmmoud-Reza Hussaini

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* Khatami: worst choice

Iranians are again being fooled by a "progressive" molla. But as usual religion has never been progressive for their promoters to be progressive and as such those who are foolishly hoping to establish a democratic regime under Khatami are again blindfolded with the fact that first of all he is a molla and as such can not be progressive regardless of what he says. And the fact that what he does is completely different from what he says is another reason that Iranians are again chasing their own tails and are hoping for some good to come out from this very shrewd and clever clergy who is manipulating Iranians to score points with his competition who is Khamenei's faction ... FULL TEXT

Jamshid E.

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