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Parham

 

 

Questions for Kiosk 10/20/2005 6:20 PM

 

I won't start with the obvious ones, like who the band is made of -- but if you feel like answering that... J

 

First one - Was I right to put Paolo Conte and Leonard Cohen in the "related communities" group? Was the song "Taraneh" inspired from the work of Paolo Conte? Or better, do you even know Paolo Conte? J I know he's not that well-known in Iran or the US.

 

 

 

Arash

 

Answers for Kiosk! 10/20/2005 10:47 PM

 

Actually, I don't know Paolo Conte and I have never heard of him before but he must be good, because all other related communities here are exactly what I grew up listening to!

 

Mark Knopfler has always been inspiring, I adore Dylan's lyrics (I think it's pure literature) and Leonard Cohen has a wonderful style in music too.

 

Babak Khiavchi has played guitar on two of the tracks but that is not all, if it were not for him this album wouldn't have been out. Besides being one of the best Iranian guitar players, he is a real good friend and he did the job all by himself! He made an album out of some demo tracks! A real producerƒ

 

Sepanta Nouri has played Drums, Bass and Guitar on two of the album tracks and the rest of the band is made of Bahador, Amirali and the legendary drummer Eyni, who is an old school pro. He has worked with almost everybody who is anybody in Iran's music scene from the 1970's until now and I must say that Zartosht Soltani has done a great job in the design of the album cover.

 

 

 

Parham

 

 

10/21/2005 5:54 AM

Thanks for the detailed response Arash.

 

Out of curiosity, could you be more specific as to who has played guitar on what tracks? You play guitar too, correct? Which tracks did you play on, and who does all the riffs?

 

More, the song "Ghanoone Kham Shodeh Blues" has been influenced by Jimi Hendrix (and/or Lenny Kravitz), right?

 

 

 

Arash

 

 

10/21/2005 8:57 AM

 

Babak has played the guitar on "Ghanoon e Kham shode Blues" and "Sobh Shod", Sep has played second electric guitar on these two songs and drums and bass as well. The touching lead guitar in "Ghanoon e Kham Shode" has been done by Babak. I did the rest of the guitar works in all other tracks.

 

Yeah, I hear a Jimi Hendrix influence in there, after all Babak lives in Seattle. That's Jimi's hometown and I know Babak visits Jimi's tomb pretty often, he must have given him a private lesson!! But I also hear some influence by the great Stevie Ray Vaughan in there.

 

By the way I noticed in the community we have Hossein Setareh! He is a dear friend of mine, he runs this site:

www.idtune.co.uk dedicated to Persian alternative music, you should check it out.

 

 

 

Parham

 

 

10/21/2005 9:16 AM

 

Thanks for the URL, I had seen the web site before, it's a very interesting one. Welcome Hossein!

 

From what I gather from your answers, the band is pretty spread out here and there. So if you guys wanted to go on a tour it would be pretty difficult, right?

 

About Babak, after having looked at the photos on his profile page here, I'm sure hanging out with Al Di Meola didn't hurt his guitar-playing either... J

 

So tell me Arash, who has written the lyrics for all the songs?

 

 

 

Arash

 

 

10/22/2005 11:19 AM

 

I am responsible for the lyrics and the songs!! It's all TAGHSIR E MAN!!

 

Did you check out our music video? It's here on Bamahang website:

www.bamahang.ca

Please tell me what you think!

 

Yes, we are pretty much scattered all over the world. We are thinking about doing a concert but we might have to make some changes in the original line-up since some of us are in Iran now getting visa andƒ

 

We tried to start from Toronto but due to BAD WEATHER CONDITIONS the concert had to be postponed. We just might start from California!

 

 

 

Parham

 

 

10/22/2005 2:17 PM

 

I did watch the Roozmaregi video and found it very "bahal" like everything else you guys do. It did remind me of the "Close To Me" video by The Cure, although I doubt that it was directly inspired by that (or was it?)

 

Which brings me to my next question: I have detected references to other songs in your music, like:

 

"Ageh jaddeha barikan

Koocheha tarikan"

 

which is a direct reference to Farhad/Shamloo (was it Jom'eh or Shabaneh?)

 

There are other ones:

 

"Bahare eshghema che zood tamoom shod

Nobate fasle khazoon shod"

 

which I still haven't been able to pinpoint what song it comes from (help me there?). I take it these "references" are little appreciative tributes to the music you grew up listening to. Could you tell me if there are other references, to which songs, and more, what other songs/musicians have inspired you in your music?

 

 

 

Parham

 

 

10/22/2005 2:20 PM

By the way, you can watch The Cure's "Close To Me" music video here:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch.php?v=6dC1rl1sIaA

 

 

 

Arash

 

 

10/24/2005 12:41 AM

 

All right, this is a good question. I had to review the whole album!!

 

There is a reference to Sohrab Sepehri in "Jade Khoshbakhti" ("Agha del e khosh siri chande?") and in "Ghanoon e Kham Shode" ("dararo room ghofl kardan....") I think I stole that from Pink Floyd: "lock the door and throw away the key..."

 

In "Ey Dad az Eshgh" it is Shamloo," Ay Eshgh Ay eshgh chehre Abiat peyda nist " and his beautiful translation of Lorca's "Darigha eshgh ke shod o baz nayamad.."

 

In "Sobh Shod" I was must have been under the influence of this cool song by the British band Status Quo and a song that starts like this "I wake up every morning that's my first mistake..."

 

And we all know who my influence was when I say "Tavahom e toteh va doshmanay e khiali"!!

 

In "Adame Mamooli" I had to steal from U2, this is from one of their rare songs that they stole from someone else..." I never did see that movie I never did read that book, love come around...."

 

And finally I made a lot of references to my previous songs like when I say " Shab to zolfet asire..." this was from a real love song that I wrote for a certain someone who obviously did not like it!!

 

I also used a lot of actual phrases I heard like" khastam biam pishet khiaboona sholoogh bood

 

 

 

Arash

 

 

10/24/2005 12:42 AM

 

By the way, I checked the music video from the Cure. It was awesome, I also downloaded some of Paolo Conte songs. He was great too, my favorite was "Boogie"!

 

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Parham

 

 

10/24/2005 8:56 AM

 

Shame on me for not having detected Sepehri in "Agha dele khosh begoo siri chande"... That's one of the best lines...

 

And by the way, the song from U2 you're referring to is Playboy Mansion from the album "Pop".

 

It's funny that you should have downloaded Paolo Conte songs. I've uploaded his most famous one for you here. Unfortunately, I couldn't find the song that resembles most to "Taraneh" since I don't have my Paolo Conte album with me here. I also uploaded a song by Garcia & Grisman on the same page, which I'm sure at least you and Babak will enjoy in case you don't already know it.

 

Interesting fact about Conte is that he used to be a lawyer who gave up everything to sing. Now as I've snooped around on you all's profiles, I know that you for instance are an architect! Are you trying to pull-up a Paolo Conte, or you only do music (or architecture) on the side??

 

One more about references before I get to the video: I could think of who "Tavahome tote'eh va doshmanaye khiali" could be about (me?? J), but I couldn't think of someone who could have said or written that. Now if you can't be more specific than that, I can understand...

 

About the video: Could you let me know more? Like, where and when it was shot, who the people in it are, whose idea it was, and stuff like that?

 

I loved the idea of putting in a corpse there, btw... That's what made me crack-up, along with the kids and their ice cream, and perhaps also the guy who has two girls with himƒ J

 

 

 

Arash

 

 

10/24/2005 6:12 PM

 

Unfortunately, I can't be more specific about some of the people I am referring to.

 

When I talk about "Tavahom e toteeh", or "Yatim khoone dast e bach e baza" ya "Siasatesh sokoote"  or "Migan nabeghas vali esmesh yadesh nist" or, ... They all are alive and very powerful!!!

 

The video was obviously shot in Tehran. The original idea was to take place in an elevator instead of a taxi, but we did not have the proper equipment. Me and two of my close friends who have a studio, and are into short films and TV advertising, came up with the idea while we were having chelo kabab! On a weekend, we invited some of our friends and told them to improvise!!!

 

The two guys I mentioned (the director and editor) appear in the clip too, but the band members are not in the clip, except for me.

 

 

 

Parham

 

 

10/25/2005 6:56 AM

 

That's very interesting! Proves that great things can be done out of simple ideas.

 

What about the part about architecture and music?

Are you an architect who does music on the side, or are you a musician who does architecture on the side?

 

Will you ever leave one for the benefit of the other if it ever came to that?

 

 

 

Arash

 

 

10/25/2005 1:31 PM

 

I studied architecture but I have no formal education in music. Architecture is what I make my living out of and I like architecture very much.

 

I have never been forced to choose between the two although there have been times that one gets in the way of the other. But I rather not think about choosing between the two, I think any form of profession that gives you the chance to express yourself more clearly and gives you more space for creating is preferable.

 

However, if you ask me what will I encourage my child to go after, it will definitely be music. I think music is the one thing that God forgot to take away from man when he kicked us out of his heaven!

 

 

 

Parham

 

 

10/25/2005 5:21 PM

 

That's very interesting. What would you do if your kid wanted to study computer? J Tell me the truth now... 

 

Arash jan, you still haven't talked about how this album came to be. Like how long ago were these songs written, or how long did it take to write them? Basically, where does this album come from, but also more importantly, where do you want it to go?

 

Also, I think you didn't delve more into your musical influences besides Dylan and Knopfler. Like what's playing on your gramophone right now? J

 

 

 

Arash

 

 

10/27/2005 5:35 PM

 

This album started around 4 years ago and it's all about a period of time when we were all experiencing a hard time, our society was (is) losing its' values and hopes and we were all concerned, but there was no way to express our feelings, we were (are) second hand citizens!

 

That was the general feeling we all had and when we started recording. We knew that this album -if ever finished- is not going to be published in Iran because of the previous experiences we had with the censorship policies in Iran.

 

So we looked at it as a jam session that was being recorded and it gave a pure feeling to the sound. We didn't feel that we are under pressure, that we have to meet a certain deadline or... We just enjoyed playing, recording and listening to the songs and eventually lots of other talented people joined in and contributed. The artwork of the album cover has the same mood and the video clip too. Music-wise, it started under influence of Dylan and then it got more electric and eventually it started to sound a little like Eastern European gypsy music.

 

 

 

Arash

 

 

10/27/2005 5:48 PM

 

And where do we want KIOSK to goƒ

 

We are still searching and experimenting. We are planning to come up with a fresh sound. We want to establish our own trade mark sound eventually and the next album will hopefully move in that direction.

 

About my influences in Rock and Blues, Clapton IS God and I really admire his work. I like Led Zeppelin, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Leonard Cohen, old U2, Sting, The Police and Chris Rea, but I also listen to a lot of Chet Atkins, Django Reinhardt and other great instrumentalists. Jim Hall and John Scofield are what I lately spend time listening to and right now I am listening to Paolo Conte's Boogie, thanks to you!!

 

I don't think I need to say that Mark Knopfler is on top of my list!

 

I really like gypsy music very much and I listen to some "No Smoking" (Emir Kusturica and the Non Smoking Orchestra) songs almost every day, they are Emir Kusturica's band, I love his movies...

 

About a child deciding to study computer, well I guess she is free to choose I just hope she knows what she wants to do with it!

 

 

 

Parham

 

 

10/28/2005 8:55 AM

 

Those are pretty interesting roots for your music. I almost added Eric Clapton to the related communities list in the beginning, but the sense of humor in your songs and the resemblance of your voice to Leonard Cohen made me opt for other choices.

 

Also, keep in mind that I'd hate to get you in trouble by asking more about the lyrics of your songs, that's why I won't get more into that. But feel free to add to the topic as much as you deem necessary!

 

This brings me to what I personally really want to know -- and please don't be diplomatic in your reply, because it will make it all the more interesting for me and for whoever will read this conversation:

 

Which song is your favorite song off the album? If you rank them in a certain order, please give me the songs rated by the order of your liking.

 

I have my own favorites, which I rank by music, by lyrics, or by a combination of both. If you feel this will make it easier for you to rank them, then go by that scheme. I know it will be hard, but give it a try.

 

Remember, pour your heart out now! J

 

 

 

Arash

 

 

10/28/2005 8:47 AM

 

I think "Zorbaye Malayeri" is my favorite now! It is also the last song that was written and recorded in the album so it is closer to my taste of music at this time.

 

I like the guitar work in "Ghanoone Kham Shode Blues", but my second most favorite would be "Jadeh Khoshbakhti", after that I think it's "Dad Az Eshgh" which was the first track of the album that was recorded and is very close to the laid back mood I was looking for throughout the album.

 

I think "Sobh Shod" has sharp lyrics and "Taraneh" has a nice chord progression. The rest are the same to me.

 

 

 

Parham

 

 

10/28/2005 9:27 AM

 

It's funny, I wouldn't have guessed that those would be your favorites! I wonder what Babak and Reza (and the members of the band)'s choices would be.

 

Regarding the word "Malayeri" - why Malayeri?? I know you've been asked that before, but there should be another reason besides "having regards for Malayer"! J

 

Speaking about Emir Kusturica and gypsy music, I should probably let you know that one of the related communities to this one during the first few days of its existence was the Tom Waits community. However, I changed that one for various reasons as you can notice. Now what's the relation between Tom Waits and Kusturica, you may ask?

 

I've read elsewhere that people have said Kiosk's music is a take-off of Greek/Eastern folk music. My answer to that would probably be that all music takes root in other types of music, especially in folk! Just listen to Tom Waits if you don't believe it!

 

Am I right, or am I right?

 

Anyway, I've created a special page for you to listen or download music files from, and besides the files from Jerry Garcia and Paolo Conte, I've added songs from Tom Waits (of whom I'm a major fan). You'll notice that on "I'll Be Gone", the same type of gypsy music feel from Kusturica is present. May that serve as an example to the critiques!

 

The other files are there because... well, I couldn't keep myself from uploading them and having you give them a listen now that you're so open-minded about music! The live version of "Telephone Call From Istanbul" is absolutely hilarious music-wise, btw.

 

Let me know what you think.

 

 

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Arash

 

 

10/29/2005 1:54 AM

 

First, I must say I am a Tom Waits fan and one of my all time favorites is "Invitation To The Blues".

 

And I agree with you about his roots and folk music and everything !

 

Malayer is a place we referred to when we made a comment for no particular reason, like every true word had to be either from Quran or Hafiz or Pink Floyd... One of our friends was Lor (we all have shahrestani backgrounds) and Malayer was the referring point of every dialogue among us... We made 2 names for each song and "Zorbaye Malayeri" was the only second title that made it to the list.

 

 

 

Parham

 

 

10/29/2005 6:09 AM

 

Somehow I knew there would be some Tom Waits in you! 

 

Incidentally, the song you're citing is off the "Small Change" album, which as I'm sure you know, also contains "Tom Traubert's Blues" (a.k.a. "Waltzing Matilda"), picked up by many such as Rod Stewart. The song is almost a hymn in a few English-speaking countries, especially Australia from I hear.

 

This one makes me think of something I've wanted to ask you from the beginning: Who do you think your audience is comprised of? I've noticed something about that which I'll tell you later, and it was pretty interesting for me to notice too.

 

 

 

Arash

 

 

10/29/2005 11:37 AM

 

From the feedback that we have received outside of Iran where the album was officially published, the audience are mostly between 25-50, they are mostly educated and they spend time on the Internet. They follow news related to Iran and obviously are not happy with the whole situation. They are scattered all over the world and they try to maintain being Iranian through the web and "that" really seems to be the only way for them to get reliable news about Iran.

 

Inside, it's almost the same audience but they don't have the same sources. We all are living without a national T.V or Radio, "inside" Iran or "outside" Iran we are faced with the same type of corrupt T.V stations, radios and newspapers that are not popular and reflect views of small groups of influential people; but the audience outside has access to fast and un-filtered Internet. They are obviously more up to date, they will know when Makhmalbaf makes a new movie, or how Ganji is doing in prison. However, people inside will have to learn about this kind of events through "word of mouth".

 

It was predictable that our audience will have certain characteristics mentioned before, but what I am really excited about is knowing the reaction of other groups of society "inside" Iran. Now that the CD is available there, there is a small obstacle: This album does not have the Ershad approval and has to be sold "underground", so there wont be any exposure from radio or TV, and we will never be able to know how many copies are sold or copied. We will have to see the reactions through word of mouth as well!

 

 

 

Arash

 

 

10/30/2005 2:15 PM

 

O.K Parham now I have a couple of questions for you:

 

First I would like to know what your favorite track on our album is, and I would like you to tell me about the weaknesses of the album and what you expect to hear in the next one!

 

 

 

Parham

 

 

10/30/2005 3:27 PM

First about the audience:

 

It really sounds like you guys actually had a market research done! My experience so far has been that you probably have a mature audience, although I don't have a big sample size to boast. Basically, all of those in my age level and a bit younger (I'm 42) to whom I have played the album have really liked (and I mean REALLY liked!) the songs so far. The only exception was a younger dude (and I still have to experiment with the younger ones), who said he liked the music, but that he felt the words weren't veryƒ "poetic"! Whatever that means! Anyway, I'll let you know once I get more feedback from people. But I'll have to say so far the response has been more than positive.

 

My 62 year-old uncle also really liked the CD, btw! This is someone who used to go watch Farhad when he was playing at Koochini way, way back. He found the songs very "original" and told me he had a few chuckles here and there when he was listening to the lyrics.

 

Now off to your questions!

 

 

 

Parham

 

 

10/30/2005 4:05 PM

 

The songs I liked most:

 

I must say that in the beginning, "Zorbaye Malayeri" was my favorite. Looking at it again, it's probably the song that has the best balance of great music/great lyrics all in all. Like my friend was saying the other day: I can still listen to it after a hundred times and discover new things in it that I hadn't heard before.

 

However, the song I find myself playing most is "Taraneh". In fact, and I'm ashamed to say this, I always skip "Roozmarregi" in the beginning to get to "Taraneh" faster! I don't know what to say, it just puts me in SUCH a good mood that I can't keep myself from rewinding and playing it again. In fact, again the other day, as soon as I started playing it, my wife came to grab me and we started dancing on it together so spontaneously that my son began cracking up at the sight of us taking off on it like that!

 

I think you dismissed "Taraneh" a bit too early in your comments too. Your singing style "...didi hamash harf boodo hala harfat tamoom shod..." is actually very innovative and soooo fun. J

 

Anyway, that's the song I wake up to, the one I shave with, dance with my wife to, take the dog out with... J

 

Music-wise, I like all the rest of them, but perhaps with more emphasis on "Jaddeye Khoshbakhti" and "Ey Dad Az Eshgh". I also agree that the guitar on "Ghanoone Kham Shodeh Blues" is damn good. My hat's off to Babak for that.

 

Lyrics-wise, again they're all very good -- even "Taraneh", which is a love song, says things in its' own special way. My favorites for the lyrics category should be "Sobh Shod", "Adame Ma'mooli", "Ey Dad Az Eshgh", "Jaddeye Khoshbakhti", and of course "Zorbaye Malayeri" -- in no special order. And by the way, I believe "Taghsire Man Bood" is a marvel lyrics-wise.

 

Overall, it's such a good album that it's very hard to decide. The songs are ALL very good, and it's rare that an album would be all good. In my opinion, that was the case for "The Bends" by Radiohead in the nineties, "Parachute" by Coldplay so far since 2000, or for other rare examples. What I mean is I consider this album in the same line.

 

So there!

 

 

 

Parham

 

 

10/30/2005 4:12 PM

 

Okay, off to strengths/weaknesses now...

 

 

 

Parham

 

 

10/30/2005 5:05 PM

 

I'll start-off with the weaknesses since you asked me:

 

First, I should say I don't agree with a criticism I read somewhere that the album sounds too much like Dire Straits. We haven't had anything like this in Farsi, and Dire Straits don't exactly sing about the same things either. More, personally Dire Straits songs tend to be downers for me, albeit very nice downers, but Kiosk songs lift me up for the most part.

 

The stuff I found are:

 

- Sometimes you tend to take a bit too long to get to the bridge, perhaps in order to put-in a few more good lines in there. That can be noticed on a few tracks, one of which being Roozmaregi.

 

- On Roozmaregi (and perhaps a few other tracks), the chords seem to be monotonous, as they don't change very often. But then I thought about that and came to the conclusion that this is perhaps the idea, since the song talks about monotony, right?

 

- The Chorus: That's one of the biggest problems with ALL Iranian music, whether it's rock, traditional, classical, whatever. I see that it happened here again: We still don't know what good background vocals are (farhangesho nadarim agha J). This is something that perhaps should be worked on for the next album. The pitch, the tonality and sometimes the choice of the voice are wrong and it can be heard, even on Kiosk.

 

- One gets the sense that you are a very good guitar player but that you don't let go enough. Perhaps I'm wrong and playing conservatively (in a way) or not experimenting enough gives the album its' charm, but then I could be wrong too. In all, your guitar may still be a bit shy.

 

- Some of the songs (like "Sobh Shod") could have benefited from being more up-tempo. The way they're left on the album, one gets the feeling that there's something lacking, that something should come and fill in -- and it's not just another instrument.

 

The rest is small things that probably have to do with my musical taste: Like I don't like the sound of the keyboard, I would have chosen another sound. The riffs don't vary much here and there, etc.

 

 

 

Parham

 

 

10/30/2005 5:14 PM

 

And the strengths... (let me know if by now you feel like giving me an upper-cut in the chin)

 

Well, apart from all I've said during the length of our conversation, which I won't write about again, I feel at this point that I should give special mention to your "tikkeh-parooni"...

 

"Hala bebinam mizarin ya na?" (Adame Ma'mooli)

"Agha dele khosh begoo siri chande?" (Jaddeye Khoshbakhti)

"Kheyli ba'as bebakhshin" (Taghsire man bood)

"....injoori khareji misheh..."

and so on...

 

Honestly, I haven't had so much fun listening to music in a long time...

 

Zendeh bashi!

 

 

 

Parham

 

 

10/30/2005 5:36 PM

Your last question:

 

I'm not sure what you mean by "what I'd like to hear on the next album".

 

I'm not familiar with your repertoire as you may still have quite a few good songs in your sleeve. For the time being I'm still in the "haal" of this one and I don't think much about the next one as you may.

 

Off the top of my head, I would say you should experiment more with gypsy music and gypsy-type arrangements (like Laleh's "Storebror" or even Tom Waits's "I'll Be Gone", though not to that extent), with an addition of bohemian instruments like the accordion. Somehow I do see you having fun --and thereby producing more outstanding music-- going that way.

 

What do you think?

 

 

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Arash

 

 

11/1/2005 8:33 AM

 

I agree with you, I have been listening to a lot of gypsy jazz lately and I like the raw sound of gypsy music. Also, we will try to add to the Iranian flavor of the band.

 

 

 

Parham

 

 

11/1/2005 1:04 PM

 

Arash jan, this will be one my last questions. How did you come to write "Taghsire Man Bood"? Where did the idea originate from?

 

 

 

Arash

 

 

11/3/2005 9:31 AM

 

The idea of "Taghsire Man Bood" came around at a time when very unfortunate events were happening in Iran (and they haven't stopped since!!!) and in my personal life I was experiencing the same situation. After a long conversation with a close person to me, I began to realize that everybody around me thinks I am to blame and I said to myself that if it's going to make them feel better, I can take the responsibility and say out loud "taghsir e man bood", and while I am at it I can do the same with many different issues.

 

We all know whose fault it is for many of the things that go wrong, if it's that easy for people in charge to deny their mismanagement, well taking responsibility could be as easy too! I mean by saying this that I tried to make people think there are people making mistakes while we are still trusting them when they don't take responsibility for anything, and they don't even feel obligated to explain anything to the people!

 

We are not talking about major political issues here (which is our right to know), but smaller things like the crash of an airliner in which hundreds die. No one ever comes out to say anything about the mismanagement, etc. All those in charge remain at their positions and even get a raise! There are many incidents like that. Remember the poor soldier who stole a shaving machine ?

 

 

 

Parham

 

 

11/5/2005 4:29 AM

 

That's very interesting. How about the people you sing about in most of your songs? For example those whose "inja o oonja" is "masnoo'ee", or those who without "ring o lastik" won't become real men. Are those people you know, or are you just speaking generally based on observation of people you've noticed here and there? Have you had any reactions to those comments?

 

 

 

Arash

 

 

11/6/2005 3:01 AM

 

About the "plastic women" and the "body builders" and other types: Well there is more than one in every crowd now, lots of them are friends or members of the family, or co-workers...You see them everywhere. Some of my friends have mentioned that I have made funny remarks on almost everyone and that is not good, but I did not do it intentionally, it just came out and I don't think anybody should take it personally. It's who we are after all!