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Dakho Dakho replied to comment:

If Sepah lead "modernization" is your cup of tea, which seems to be, so be it. But people in Iran are sick and tired of monopolization and dictatorship and looks like they're taking action about it.
Your knowledge of Iranian economy might be a bit inadequate and challenged to grasp a full picture of what's going on, most often these challenges are both conceptual and factual, as related to current data. Read more

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juvus juvus replied to comment:

that is not true at all. You CAN have economic reform without political reform.

South Korea
People seem to forget that until 1994 south Korea was a dictatorship. It's political scene right now can hardly be called "thriving" It's the conservative party running the show and then the liberal party trying to stay relevant.

Singapore
There is no democracy in Singapore. It's what some would call a benevolent dictatorship

China
China overtook the US as the largest economy in the world last month. I would hardly call their political scene democracy.

US
The US is not a democracy, it is a republic that barely pretends anymore that it cares what the people care or want. If you're name is not GE or Exxon mobile good luck getting your congressman to give a crap. Thriving political scene is not what the US is known for.

Malaysia

The bottom line is, you want your government to be responsive to the people. That is the way it should be. But economic growth and reform don't require "thriving" politics.
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Dakho Dakho replied to comment:

As they say in Iran you're wrong from "Alef Besmellah Ta Tay Tamamat"!
Poverty is Iran has had a secular rise in the past thirty five years. The center for statistics in Iran is the most updated and reliable source and that's exactly what their stats show.
Why should US care about Iran? US doesn't care about its own people.
Multinationals are the true centers of power my friend don't be fooled by mere appearance.
Have you heard the news about what happened in Ahvaz yesterday after it rained?
Iranian ecology and natural environment is on the verge of destruction and our urban infrastructures lack resources and are under equipped. Serious lovers of Iran will pay serious attention to our existing crisis like poverty and environment rather than pie in the sky fantasies based on outdated and wrong information Read more

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Dakho Dakho replied to comment:

They are both blind and suicidal as we have witnessed in the past 35 years. The problem with you people's fixation on the economy is that you can't have a thriving economy without a thriving politics, economic reform and development is only possible when combined with social and political reform and development. Monopoly of politics and economy is the antithesis od growth.
What do you mean by "burning money and wealth in creating expensive revolutions!"? Read more

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juvus juvus replied to comment:

By all economic account, UN, World Bank Iran grew it's middle class every year since the end of the Iran-Iraq war, and it all went crap when the UN sanctions were put in effect under the sloppy hands of Mahoud PoopyHead. So Iran has proven that it can feed its people if left alone. When people start interfering in the process you can't possibly expect them to shine.

Iran sure as hell did a better job feeding its people than India. India is everything the West say they want ME countries to be. A democracy. And yet, pound for pound, Iran has done more for its people with sanction and 35 years as a pariah state, then India has done in 60+ years since independence and all the democracy it can eat. So take from this whatever you may.

As for smuggling, it is a byproduct of sanctions. No matter the country, the culture whenever you have a few people with abilities to get stuff in, you will have corruption and problems. US Prohibition is the perfect example. Millionaires were made in just a few years of the US government thinking it can change human behavior.

If the US truly cared about Iran's well being, it would never have put those sanctions in effect. Because logic dictates that the few and the connected would become more powerful, while the poor and middle class weaker. In order words, everything you don't want if you want Iran to change for the better. What they have effectively done with these sanctions is turn Iran into China where the PLA during the Deng Xiaoping years gain ridiculous level of control over the Chinese Economy.

Nothing is going to be perfect within the first 4 or 5 years after sanctions are lifted( God willing.) You can't undo so many knots in just a few years. But those knots are not a deal breaker for economic success either.

The most important foundation to economic success is already there in Iran. Iran's population is educated and have skills. They have engineers, they have machinists and many other skills they have acquired because due to sanctions they had to. In a way they can send a thank you note to America later for making them a better country.

If the sanctions are lifted, the only thing stopping Iran from overtaking South Korea is ambition and will.

The bottom line for me is Iran will be unstoppable if the sanctions are removed. They are hungry, not just for food, but hungry for economic power. And from all I know and understand about the world, they will get it as long as people stay out of their way.

The end. Read more

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P.Galenous P_J. replied to comment:

It is 15% now and I guarantee that it is going to get worst and as soon as US oil industry is fully operational and self sufficient!

We are in pre-indusial phase and should do our best to become fully industrial...that may not be too easy at the start but doable if we begin treating our educated people better and STOP the brain drain that exists today!

I count on Iranian intellectual ability, capabilities and the know how...our accomplishment in the West attests to those claims. Unfortunately, taking the next step depends on the whim of ignorant Akhoonds!

They have to be either blind or suicidal NOT wanting a better society and life for our citizens and continue their nonsensical religious diatribes. They should get into action immediately, before it gets worst, and spent money on industrialization rather than burning money and wealth in creating expensive revolutions! Read more

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P.Galenous P_J. replied to comment:

Unless we move in the direction of industrialization we will eternally be at the mercy of the West!!! Obviously, not as badly as Saudis are, but something close to that. Our salvation is in education, and since we have a great foundation/base it could not be that hard training engineers and scientists that can create a strong manufacturing base, design and production! Read more

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Dakho Dakho replied to comment:

Love is fine and dandy but its not going to fill people's stomach. People been living with promises for 35 years and somehow they're suppose to be happy with more promises?
Today in Iran you have worse than Ahmadinejad in power; a thing called Sepah, who also happens to be the largest contractor in Iran, and as Ahmadinejad also referred to them "Smuggler Brothers" (Baradaran Ghachaghchi).
These brothers have their own industrial piers and points of entry, pay zero tax and one could write books on their economic clout and they're suppose to give up all this wealth and power just because you love Iran?
It's very good and commendable to love one's country, but that's no excuse for being clueless about basic facts of life in Iran. You name all these countries and cities but sound so out of it when it comes to nitty gritty of real life in Iran. Read more

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juvus juvus replied to comment:

What I love about Iran most and foremost is that they are the McGyver of the Middle East. They take adversities and turn it into advantages.

Yeah for a short time there will be pain. what is 2 or 3 years in the scheme of things. Nothing. Japan has been in stagnation for over 2 decades. They are unable to change. Unwilling to think of new creative ways to move the country forward that doesn't involve QE. Iran doesn't have the problem. Creativity is in their blood. I can't think of no other country that could have come up with so many innovative ways of bypassing the strongest sanctions ever devised by men. If there wasn't so many bad managerial decisions under the Hugo Chavez wannabe AKA Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the country would have been in even better shape to withstand the sanctions.

Monopolizing forces are not inherently bad for economies. America benefited a great deal from monopolies when it was coming of age in the 1800's as an economic power. Korea built its economy on Chaebols monopolizing everything from the 50 till now. Samsung being the largest of them all. But now they are holding the economy back. So Iran can't really follow that model as a long term strategy. Iran has to find its own model that may be part South. Korea, part Germany and a little bit Shanghai.

But the most important thing for Iran is never have Ahmadinejad within 10 feet of power again. Everything else can be managed. Read more

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kps59 kps59 replied to comment:

OK now you're making me feel sorry for you.

But anyway all the negative responses only serve to keep the attention focused here and far more people read threads like this than participate in them so it's all working exactly as intended and you my friend are doing your part to help it along even if you do that by hating.

Stay here and keep banging your head against it all. And don't be afraid to awaken my other threads here too, just try not to keep repeating the same tired protests, you have to keep it interesting, OK?

You're alright, PeeJ ;) Read more

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Dakho Dakho replied to comment:

How do you propose to fill the 15 percent reduction in Oil revenues? On top of Mr. Masoud Nili's reminder that we'll be stuck in stagnation for at least three to two more years. Maybe in the next 20 years we'll be kings of the word, but for the next two, three years it'll be more bad news. And exactly how do you propose to alleviate the monopolizing forces in Iranian economy? Do you know who's the country's largest contractor? Read more

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juvus juvus posted a comment:

It's everything I have been saying about Iran. Iran's anchor is oil. Iran is everything that Saudi Arabia isn't. A country that can function if oil runs out tomorrow. So I am so glad to hear this coming from the top that they understand that oil is their weakness not their strength. It's is a gently worded FU Saudi Arabia and take oil and shove it up your A** speech. Me like.

If and when the sanctions are lifted Iran, should do everything it can to make science and technology and manufacturing its lifeblood. I have all confidence that they can become the top 10 economies in the world in the next 20 years easy without oil counted as part of its GDP. If they are doing cutting edge work in science and technology attracting talents and retaining talents will not be any problem. Read more

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