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HoshangTarehgol5 Hoshang Tarehgol replied to comment:

To be so illiterate and proud of it, a true monarchist indeed.
For those who can't read Persian the lines quoted here, they state that both pahlavis highly exacerbated the problem of shanty towns and slums in Iran. Read more

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varjavand varjavand replied to comment:

Good point, The following book is an edifying source of information on this topic, Nonbeliever Nation: The Rise of Secular Americans by David Niose

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Shirzadegan Siavash replied to comment:

Let's read the articled together and see what is says about the role of Mullah's regime in growth of shanty towns and slums in Iran. At this time the shah and Monarchy is gone, but shanty towns and slums continue to grow. Exactly what part you don't understand. ?

Why do you conceal this part of article from your note. Deliberately conceal this part is commonly called DECEPTION

دوره سوم از 1360 تا به امروز که اوج بروز مشکلات شهری و شهر نشینی ایران بخصوص در شهرهای بزرگ دراین دوره بخصوص در دهه 60 اتفاق افتاده است که با بروز چنگ تحمیلی و عدم توجه دولت به بخش کشاورزی و همچنین رشد توقعات ما دی و فرهنگی مردم و عدم امکان تأ مین نیازهای آنها در شهرهای کوچک و روستاها سیل عظیم مهاجرت به شهرهای بزرگ را در پی داشته است .نسبت جمعیت شهر نشین کشور از 51درصد در سا ل 1360 به 70درصد در سا ل 85 رسیده است .

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منبع :1- صالحي مرزيجاني ، زهرا اطلاعات سياسي- اقتصادي ش 211و 212 ص163

2- سالنامه آماري كشور سال 1380

بنابراین مجموعه عوامل و شرایط ایجاد شده سه دوره مذکور باعث تشدید روند شهر نشینی شد که این امر معضلات چندی را برای کشور و اقتصاد سیاسی آن به همراه داشته است یکی از نتایج بلا فصل آن رواج پدیده حاشیه نشینی
است که در اینجا به بررسی این مفهوم و علل پیدایش آن در ایران می پردازیم

Since you have hard time to understand my writing in English, I make it simple as follow.

No shanty towns.

"No shanty towns if shah leaves and regime change."
Do you remember ?
Shah left, regime changed in 1979, but shanty towns still exist.
Got it ? Read more

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dale dale replied to comment:

You cannot deny life after death? A supreme intelligence behind the rules you can't deny.

The test is not the inability to deny but the ability to confirm.

You have your thinking cap on upside down, which fits with believing things for which there are many advocates but none who can provide evidence.

Evidence of life after death, etc is like the evidence about WMD in Iraq: strong conviction is not a substitute for evidence. Read more

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dale dale posted a comment:

"A 2012 Pew Research Center poll found that one-fifth of the U.S. public – and a third of adults under 30 – are religiously unaffiliated today, the highest percentages ever in the survey’s history.
In the last five years alone, the unaffiliated increased from just over 15 percent to just under 20 percent of all U.S. adults. Their ranks now include more than 13 million self-described atheists and agnostics (nearly 6 percent of the U.S. public), as well as nearly 33 million people who say they have no particular religious affiliation (14 percent)."

Younger people, more and more, are leaving their religions or growing up without. This is the wave of future, as the US will look much more like Europe, with fewer and fewer religiously affiliated.

Religion will not die out, just become less and less important for Americans, something most of us have observed during our lifetimes. Read more

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HoshangTarehgol5 Hoshang Tarehgol replied to comment:

No one could dispute the constructive capacities and history of capitalism.
The problem could be that no one can dispute its destructive structures either.
But this time around "structural crisis of capitalism" is a bit more than just deflation, lack of effective demand and underconsumptionism. This current structural crisis also includes destruction of global environment, or whatever is still left of it.
Richard Duncan the author of "The New Depression" has long advocated a global rise in wages as the only real solution to present crisis. This whole issue of raising wages and various campaigns in different countries pursuing such demands are some of the few inspiring instances at the moment.
Other than that what we mostly see is continued inaction on climate change, proliferation of regional wars, discussions about how all the boundaries of post WWI are crumbling, and a hundred years after WWI the world might be back to square one. Read more

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MohammadAla Mohammad Ala محمد علاء posted a comment:

What a waste of time to have clicked on this thread.

"VOA confirmed that Mohammadi was initially banned by the station when contacted Wednesday by the Washington Free Beacon. The ban was reversed as soon as network heads learned of it, according to a VOA spokesman."

“A staffer without any authority did say he was banned,” the VOA spokesman confirmed, adding that the ban was quickly overturned when higher-level officials were informed about the situation."

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HoshangTarehgol5 Hoshang Tarehgol replied to comment:

Unlike you Walter Benjamin discerns at least three aspects to what he calls "religious structure of capitalism." Then again Benjamin was an original thinker unlike you and I. These structures are:

1) "In the first place, capitalism is a purely cultic religion, perhaps the most extreme that ever existed. In capitalism, things have no meaning only in their relationship to the cult; capitalism has no specific body of dogma, no theology. It is from this point of view that utilitarianism acquires its religious overtones.

2) This concretization of cult is connected with a second feature of capitalism: the permanence of the cult. Capitalism is the celebration of the cult sans reve et sans merci [without dream or mercy]. There are no “weekdays.” There is no day that is not a feast day, in the terrible sense that all its sacred pomp is unfolded before us; each day commands the utter fealty of each worshipper.

3) And third, the cult makes guilt pervasive. Capitalism is probably the first instance of a cult that creates guilt, not atonement. In this respect, this religious system is caught up in the headlong rush of a larger movement."

Benjamin also distinguishes from Weber's ideas of origins of capitalism by stating: "A religion may be discerned in capitalism – that is to say, capitalism serves essentially to allay the same anxieties, torments, and disturbances to which the so-called religions offered answers. The proof of the religious structure of capitalism – not merely, as Weber believes, as a formation conditioned by religion, but as an essentially religious phenomenon."

Capitalism as Religion by Walter Benjamin

Your apologia for Press TV speaks for itself. Suffice it to say that Press TV is also the only media outlet actually pursued and prosecuted for violations of Human Rights in Iran.

Per "Iranian opposition," it might not be a bad idea if you and them both look into people's summit on climate changes and LEARN how to organize in 21st century. Read more

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amirparvizforsecularmonarchy amirparvizforsecularmonarchy replied to comment:

Intelligence has limits, while Stupidity has no limits. Next Consider the benefits gained from finite intelligence versus unlimited stupidity. A society with a minority of the most Stupid Imbeciles who honestly believe a hidden savior awaits at the bottom of some well to save them, can you tell me which enemy can cope with that? Some people were thinking to themselves over generations, how can I harness unlimited retard strength, and voila you have Islam, Christianity and Judaism.

Maybe if we stopped thinking of how to enhance the benefits of religion and focus on the heavy price humanity pays for the tyranny of thought and ability to question, we would see religion for what we have made it and figure out ways to reduce the religiosity that arises from the vicious cycle of self inflicted Religious repression. Read more

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HoshangTarehgol5 Hoshang Tarehgol replied to comment:

Let's read the articled together and see what is says about the role of both pahlavis in growth of shanty towns and slums in Iran.
Exactly what part of the history below do you dispute?

روند شهر نشینی در ایران

"ساختار فئودالیسم حاکم بر جامعه از هم پا شیده و جای خود را به حکومت مطلقه رضا شاه داد این تغییر ساختار سیاسی ساختار اقتصادی حاکم را از هم پاشید و آلتر ناتیو اقتصادی مناسبی جایگزین نظام فئودالی سنتی نشد"

- علل رشد و پیدایش حاشیه نشینی :

همانطور که در بخشهای قبل مطرح شد تا سا ل 1320 اقتصاد شهر و روستا تا حدودی در توازن با هم بودند بنابراین تا این زمان مهاجرت به شهر شکل مسأ له سازی به خود نگرفته بود اما از سا ل 1332 به بعد با اجرای برنامه ها و طرحهای نو سازی و توسعه اقتصادی روند توسعه شهرها نضج گرفت و به اتکای در آمد نفت ( بعنوان مهمترین منبع مازاد اقتصادی) طرحهای زیر بنایی شهری و توسعه صنعتی به اجرا درآمد بنابراین از این زمان روند در حاشیه قرار گرفتن بخش کشاورزی آغاز می شود و روستاییان مهاجرت گروهی خود به شهرها را شروع می کنند . در دهه 40 با کاهش نقش کشاورزی در اقتصاد ایران و با رکود اقتصاد روستائی و بی زمین شدن میلیونها کشاورز در نتیجه اصلاحات ارضی و رشد همه جانبه زندگی اقتصادی ،اجتماعی و فرهنگی شهر روند مهاجرت نیروي مازاد کار از روستا به شهرهای بزرگ شدت گرفت با تشدید این روند عرضه نیروی کار در شهرها از تقاضای آن پیشی گرفت لذا مهاجران تهی دست در محدوده شهرها در اراضی بایر و غصبی ( عمدتا" دولتي ) با مواد و مصالح در دست ، من جمله: حلبی ،حصیر، لاستیک فرسوده ،خشت و گل و با همیاری همدیگر سکونتگاههای غیر بهداشتی و فاقد هر گونه تسهیلات زیر بنایی و رفاهی بر پا کردند و در آلونکهای کثیف و نا سالم سکنی گزیدند . با توجه به اینکه این جماعت به تازگی از روستاها به این مناطق سرازیر شده بودند و غالبا" از نعمت سواد بی بهره بودند و مهارت و حرفه خاصی در چنته نداشتند بنابراین به علت فقر شدید ما لی و فرهنگی محیط مناسبی برای انواع آسیبها و انحرافات اجتماعی ایجا د نمودند.

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amirparvizforsecularmonarchy amirparvizforsecularmonarchy replied to comment:

Capitalism plus democratic systems (not Monarchies) have given us a harmful and unregulated and unlimited Capitalism. With Democratic Systems, you have these genocidal policies, by a fascist society that regardless of the Capitalist System are unable to abide by the rule of law and be accountable (see japan and its unlawful u-turn on its own pacifist constitution). With the unlimited Capitalism, You have elections, arguments and reputations that are purchased to be built up or purchased to be torn down.

Meanwhile in the USA, the worst part for me is You have an unelected secret service that control and influence who gets more money and exposure and so has the ability to select which final candidates you have to choose from, not as a result of the efforts of either Republican on Democratic Parties, but their ability to control who gets exposed to how much of what and when (this doesn't include how the media itself has its bias and agenda's separate to the agenda of the secret service).

You at least have free and non private national health care with some monarchies which means you can go to the doctor and not have your health exploited for profit at your expense, by an unscrupulous medical profession in many cases seeking profits over your health and life. Read more

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MohammadAla Mohammad Ala محمد علاء posted a comment:

Scottish people should decide what is good for them.

If Britain is against their independence, then they must vote YES on Friday.

Britain have used many countries to make their kings and queens rich. they used Iran's oil from Masjed-souliman to run their empire for over 100 years and paid very little. It is time to stand up to Britain and tell them stealing is enough. Read more

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amirparvizforsecularmonarchy amirparvizforsecularmonarchy posted a comment:

The Credibility of this US alliance is hilarious, you have around 12 countries committed, of which all had in the past participated to fund, arm, train and supply ISIS and some like the Saudi's seek to continue that. The two countries excluded are two of only 3 countries directly threatened by ISIS , Syria and IRI were excluded. They should have also excluded Iraq, but that would give away so many future agenda's. Read more

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Shirzadegan Siavash replied to comment:

And it states a secular growth of slums and shantytowns during Mullah's time as well. From 1979 till today.
Last time I checked increase in slums doesn't count for revolution as REDS and BLACK reactionary promised to people in 1970's. It would help to be honest and not deceitful before posting any article on this site. Read more

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ghourbagheh ghourbagheh replied to comment:

Wow! You really don't understand what you read, do you!? Many people have compared capitalism to a religion and it certainly shares elements with many religions, but it's an analogy to get the idea across. It's not literal. Let me give a simpler analogy that you may understand. No need to go to any books you have come across in a garage sale. Alcohol and drugs share similarities to a deity for an addict. One can even compare addiction to religion. And they are pretty similar. But that doesn't mean that in a discussion of religion alcoholism would be a topic. Capitalism has been a destructive force akin to religion. Many believe in it as if it was a religion. It certainly has infused itself in many religious institutions and ideology, although that says more about religion than it does about capitalism. In the end, this post was about religion and faith in a deity. You went on your usual tangential bantering because you read "capitalism" somewhere and you just have to put it in everything, even your cup of tea!

Why is PressTV any less credible than CNN, BBC, CBS, RT, Al Jazeera or other state organs of "news"!? I don't give any of them much credit. I post particular interesting material from all of them. I've also posted from DemocracyNow, you don't mention that!! Unfortunately, smaller, independent outlets do not have the resources that large establishment does. Therefore, it falls on the readers to sift through the propaganda.

Hoshang khan (is it Hoshang or Hooshang!?), you are an example of why there is no coherent Iranian opposition. You don't want to contribute to a constructive discussion. Everything is just a platform for you to show that you bought a bunch of books at a garage sale. This site is platform for you to tell us how well you understand religion, capitalism, history, etc. Even when it turns out that the guy you're attacking has read your books and than some, he has only "read" them, as you put it, because his logic and intellect does not have the limited comprehension that you have when you READ! Great job chief, way to propel your people ahead. Another century of people like you, and Iran will be nothing more than archeological past... Read more

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