Islams light is shut off in the hearts and minds of educated people.
Even it has disappeared from the wishes of the masses now we have seen it at work in Iran. Once upon a time during Shahs era more than 70 % visited mosque, now that number is less than 15% and growing smaller every day.
Qoran is appreciated by most people in Iran less than playboy... but as you know there is no Freedom in Iran now, so until this corrupt and represive regime struggles for its last breath of legitimacy let's celebrate.
Out with Islam. In with Liquor and Bikini's. After these Dark years, Freedom is wlecome, from Islam and other dirty lies. What a legacy Khomeini Left, look at the shape of Iran Air.
I recognize that you have a right to feel as you do, even hate if you want.
Express that hate as you like. Expressing that hate on a thread about Iran Air logo is perhaps not the best place and way off subject, IMO. But so be it.
If you have bothered reading my posts, you can see religion in general is crap. I am an equal opportunity vocal critique when it comes to religion I just give myself the right to criticize Islam. Had i been a Jew or Chrisitian, i would have equally brought up the inefficiencies of their prophets as well. This ia a business to brain wash people. I am merely providing you the tools to wake you and join the 21st century instead of letting yourselves be a tool of relgious businessmen. Here in America we have been given the right to criticize. Iam merely exercising that right. Right or wrong is up to the reader to decide. All i am saying is that for 1400 years we (my family) used relgion as a tool to rule over the people and country and now that time is up.
The hate you have for your blood line is very interesting.
But lets take the points as they are. Where in the old testament or new testament does it state an age for marriage? It does not. More so, christians and jews in history have married girls younger than 18!
But I will go on more on the point the bible states: ``if thy daughter, (hrgb) , "is ripe", or come to the flower of her age, make thy servant free and give her to him. Let me make it even more simple if she is bleeding she is ready! That can be less than 10 years-old!
If you are going to be equal why do you not state that Jesus and David (______ name a profit) were all child molesters?
As for terrorism and so on. More terrorist acts have been carried out by White males in the US than arabs! You can even state, that 9/11 can be looked as a unique even based on a racial minority carring out the event.
I would go into the whole ´I hate my ancestor´ thing but really... Lol wake up and except your life for what it is...
مسافرین عزیز با پروازهای ما شاد میروید و شادروان باز می گردید
خبر فوری:هواپیمای تهران-شیراز به سلامت به زمین نشست. کارشناسان در حال بررسی علت این ماجرا می باشند//www.irupload.ir/images/j87y61lje0krgbqsh5oz.jpg//www.irupload.ir/images/vxscuv3e27itfcxrlr7y.jpgنماینده مجلس که از پرواز هواپیمای ارومیه باز ماندهگفت:تنها آرزویم شهادت استنماینده مردم ماکو، چالدران، شوط و پلدشت ضمن ابراز همدردی با بازماندگان حادثه سقوط هواپیمای مسافربری گفت: به دلیل اینکه باید برای انجام کاری در تهران می ماندم، پرواز را کنسل کردم.وی با اشاره به اینکه تنها آرزویم شهادت است و این مسأله، باعث یادآوری خاطرات همرزمان شهیدم شد، افزود:این دومین بار است که به دلیل انجام مأموریت کاری و رسیدگی به امور، مجبور به باز ماندن از پرواز شده ام که هر دوی این پروازها، منجر به سقوط شده اند.//www.tabnak.ir/files/fa/news/1389/10/20/80485_526.jpgآموزش خروج از منزل در ایرانابتدا سمت چپ و سپس سمت راست خود را نگاه کرده و بعد بالای سر خود را نگاه می کنیم در صورت عدم سقوط هواپیمایی با احتیاط از منزل خود خارج می شویم.بلیت جدید ایرلاین های ایران .. مسافرین عزیز با پروازهای ما شاد میروید و شادروان باز می گردید..//www.irupload.ir/images/cg04i127e5ax5zcbpk2.jpgو در آخر تصویری دردناک- تلاقی خون و برف//www.asriran.com/files/fa/news/1389/10/22/162362_859.jpg
but seriously I don't know why people even bother taking Iran Air. If you are leaving the country there are various foregin airlines you can take and internaly just drive or take a bus or even train if possible that's if you care a bit about your own life because the goons in charge they don't care.
J.S. go to my website www.ghaffaris.com, you will get a kick out of me calling Mohamad "The A-rab" a child molestor. Which i have not lied, as the molestation accusation is based on the laws of 20-21st centuries. My ancestor Abuzar Ghaffari a persian albeit of semitic Sami descent is a disgrace to my country and this cult we call Islam. As islam and Arabs have done nothing throughout Man's history but to bring death, destruction, and deprevity (what contributions they made was based on Persian culture). So harp all you want, i have the connections, and the pedagogy to place myself in a unique position to prove the world, (as the US already is convinced) that Islam and A-rabs must be annihilated, in the least sidelined, if we dont want a 9/11 type event to happen again.
hala har cheghadr ham bad bashan in khotooteh havapaymaeeh iran vali ensafan serviceshoon to havayapayma khaili khoobeh... inja ke ba southwest parvaz mikonam yk cupeh kochoolo ab miveh midan ke hamash ham ba yakh pooresh kardam va yk basteh peanut kochoolooyeh 2cmX2cm... bad ham mehmandarashoon kiseh zobaleh migiran dasteshoon va rah mioftan ashghal ha ro jam mikonan... vali chand vaghteh pish ke iran rafteh boodam to havapayma Iranair zereshk polo va beef stroganoff dadan vaseh sham... ba khkodam goftam ay jan hich ja vatan nemisheh ke to asemoonesh ham polo zereshk be adam midan! hala ke fekresho mikonam nakoneh in ghazaharo midan be onvaneh shameh akhar!! ke ageh havapayma torish shod laaghal arezoo bedel mosafera az in donya naran!!!
Many countries are perusing fast rail as option to travel. Iran has a great opportunity to plan and invest in this form of transportation. It's beneficial in many levels. Even if the sanctions are removed and Iran can have a modern aviation, they can still enjoy having more options to travel.
I have flown in Iranair planes in Iran they are scary. When you are walking to get in to plane you can see how beat up the airplanes are. They should blindfold passengers before they get in to planes. Poor crew they have to fly every day.
Arabic Is a language! Islam is a religion which used Arabic for its holy book and other teachings. The relationship stops right there. There are no such things as Islamic words. Mohammad was a prophet and not a linguist. Neither Mohammad nor other Islamic scholars added to the Arabic language in any shape or form that ordinary Arabs would know of. That could be a scholarly discussion which is beyond the scope of the inflected form of a name. According to Muslims, Mohammad was a messenger who related the messages he received from his God! He did not create the Arabic language for Islam. Issa, Moosa, Yousef are also used by Iranians. Many Iranians used to name their children without much conscious attempt at figuring out their meanings, anyway. So, every Umar must be a Muslim and every Hussein a Shi'ite Muslim, right? Wrong! Also, what have Mahmoud's parents got to do with his views on religion? Wasn't Jesus a Jew? Why is it okay for a Jew to convert to Islam, but it's not okay for a Muslim to renounce his religion? Mahmoud's reaction to this incident says nothing about his parents. And Islam is not limited to Shi'ite Islam. Many Sunnis view Shi'ism as s a cult. Is that a slander or does it amount to defamation? Hardly! If one does not believe in something one does not defame it by expressing his/her views with regards to it. When in Iran they destroy Baha'i cemeteries or in France cemetries belonging to the Jews, the expression desecration is used by those who believe in the holiness of such places or even those who would use it as a "proper" or "fixed" metaphor for such occasions without even believing in the holiness of such sites. Those who damage them do not see them as holy and their own acts as, defamation. So, let's not defame this "holy" site of IC by such illiterate arguments which smack only of demagoguery!
I guess you did not research just the last 20 posts he wrote prior to writting this reply!
In which he states ¨arab... religion... Islam... infestation¨ so for the first part of the whole verbal written diarrea please hit the good old search button.
Second, if you can not see how the following statement is ohhhh just a little defamation in nature: ¨this is the logo that should actually precede the word Islam. as it is the religion of death¨
I suggest you post the same exact variable of this but replace the word with jew on a jewish site. Please post links.
Third, a man, or assuming a man, that comes from mooooslem blood that uses statements like the prior mentioned is nothing but a self hating man. If his father and mother are moooooslem then why should his statement not apply to his own?
Thank you, Miko, for the info.......I watched a lot of post-election protest videos seeing Basijis getting around on red motocycles.....I am not sure it is high performance or low performance....
I am afraid he would not be able to ride his bike across Iran. IRI has restricted the use of high performance bikes for few years. What a shame after all his support for IRI, he would not even have a freedom to ride his toy ( assuming if he ever goes to Iran ).
Arabic Is a language! Islam is a religion which used Arabic for its holy book and other teachings. The relationship stops right there. There are no such things as Islamic words. Mohammad was a prophet and not a linguist. Neither Mohammad nor other Islamic scholars added to the Arabic language in any shape or form that ordinary Arabs would know of. That could be a scholarly discussion which is beyond the scope of the inflected form of a name. According to Muslims, Mohammad was a messenger who related the messages he received from his God! He did not create the Arabic language for Islam. Issa, Moosa, Yousef are also used by Iranians. Many Iranians used to name their children without much conscious attempt at figuring out their meanings, anyway. So, every Umar must be a Muslim and every Hussein a Shi'ite Muslim, right? Wrong! Also, what have Mahmoud's parents got to do with his views on religion? Wasn't Jesus a Jew? Why is it okay for a Jew to convert to Islam, but it's not okay for a Muslim to renounce his religion? Mahmoud's reaction to this incident says nothing about his parents. And Islam is not limited to Shi'ite Islam. Many Sunnis view Shi'ism as s a cult. Is that a slander or does it amount to defamation? Hardly! If one does not believe in something one does not defame it by expressing his/her views with regards to it. When in Iran they destroy Baha'i cemeteries or in France cemetries belonging to the Jews, the expression desecration is used by those who believe in the holiness of such places or even those who would use it as a "proper" or "fixed" metaphor for such occasions without even believing in the holiness of such sites. Those who damage them do not see them as holy and their own acts as, defamation. So, let's not defame this "holy" site of IC by such illiterate arguments which smack only of demagoguery!
“That's in really bad taste. If I were a family member of one of the crash victims, I'd be deeply offended.
”Really??And so your insensitive nasty comments you made on the day the young prince past way to the majority of Iranians and his family witch happen to be among the human body were in good taste and out of ethical sensitivity?You just keep making a bigger ass out of yourself as each day goes by ;)
And you keep on yapping about how you accept Iran and its fascist government for what it is, well for starters it’s a dictator ship that sees America as its number one enemy and if you accept them then you also accept America as your enemy, then what business do you have calling yourself American?
And as for your favorite word “Iranians in diaspora” well if you are not living in within the system and rag head dictatorship that you some much approve of and accept what does that make you, diaspora? Mental and social diaria is more like it.
If you love them so much why don’t you just go live with them and stop hiding behind wanting to be an American? And hey have no worries about flying back home with VIran Air it’s only a one time pilot error ;))
VERY COOL AND TIMELY LOGO, sad but true, God bless the victims and their families.
It was likely pilot error that caused the crash. You want to somehow blame an entire government for a pilot's poor decision to fly in adverse weather conditions? Boy, you're really reachin' fella. By the same token, why not blame the Iranian National Soccer team, why don'tcha.
Are you able to read airport flying condition reports? I posted them on a previous thread for Bavafa (who is a pilot). Check 'em out if you're able, and you tell me who's really to blame.
Your rather shallow "journalistic" take on Iran and its realities is too limited to understand that: these pilots are some of the best in the world.
Most of them are the veterans of the War, same ones who fought and flew during the Iraq War, and would receive at least twice as much salary only if they worked in one the Sheikdom's around the Persian Gulf, but for whatever reason they stick with their people, and fly these outdated, 20, 30 years old planes.
It should be clear: pilots are not the problem, it's IR and it's most dysfunctional ruling apparatus. It's making even Ghajar's look good!
¨this is the logo that should actually precede the word Islam. as it is the religion of death. But then again, life in the Islamic Republic means nothing. When the government of Israel passes on her condolencese to the people of Iran, but the supreme leader sees it beneath himself to do so, tells volumes about the deprevity of Islam and those ruling Iran.¨
This is funny. The guy that states the above is named after the ARABIC version of the name mooooooohammmmmed. Seriously?
So Mahhhhhhhmoud tell me. What does that say about the mother and father that named you that? How about your grand parents?
That logo should proceed everything about your family, correct? Your forefathers come from ¨death¨ and are evil, correct?
It is interesting how repeated religious defamation (in this context: Defamation—also called calumny, vilification, slander (for transitory statements), and libel (for written, broadcast, or otherwise published words)—is the communication of a statement that makes a claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individual, business, product, group, government, or nation a negative image. It is usually a requirement that this claim be false and that the publication is communicated to someone other than the person defamed (the claimant).
is not censored but is used by you 100s of times without you being banned, why?
Hay at least Iranian pilots are not flying drunk or under the influence of drugs. Again, the responsibility of these crashes fall for the most parts on US for violating the international aviation laws in addition to many others.
That is actually a beautiful picture of Khomeini's mother, while pregnant with khomeini. That's where her son Ruhollah got his looks from. Great set of teeth.
Look what happenened to the wealthiest and most Free country in the Middle East. Iran.
Now Mullahs are Teaching Islam to us. They can't even afford to maintain planes, forget about managing a country.
This is the real picture for the whole of iran, not just Iran Air.
Shah was fortunate not to have to seen this. God Loved him too much to let him see what mullahs would do to a once great country he had built, following the constitution of Iran.
You ain't no art lover, after all. Just enjoy the fun of ridiculing IR thieves. Funny YOU should speak of respect for the dead. But as they say, talk is cheap. Iranians are frustrated, angry AND sad and they know who to blame for the loss! P.S. Double negative in the first sentence was on purpose and for emphasis.
Eslam hama chiz midehad
by jasonrobardas on Tue Jan 18, 2011 01:04 AM PSTNan midehad , aab ve barghe majjani midehad , otoboose majjani midehad , hava peymaye amn va parvaze etminan bakhsh midehad ..........................................................................
Criticize Islam all you want thanks to IRI people now know Islam
by AlexInFlorida on Mon Jan 17, 2011 04:49 PM PSTIslams light is shut off in the hearts and minds of educated people.
Even it has disappeared from the wishes of the masses now we have seen it at work in Iran. Once upon a time during Shahs era more than 70 % visited mosque, now that number is less than 15% and growing smaller every day.
Qoran is appreciated by most people in Iran less than playboy... but as you know there is no Freedom in Iran now, so until this corrupt and represive regime struggles for its last breath of legitimacy let's celebrate.
Out with Islam. In with Liquor and Bikini's. After these Dark years, Freedom is wlecome, from Islam and other dirty lies. What a legacy Khomeini Left, look at the shape of Iran Air.
Mahmoud
by J.S. on Mon Jan 17, 2011 04:09 PM PSTI recognize that you have a right to feel as you do, even hate if you want.
Express that hate as you like. Expressing that hate on a thread about Iran Air logo is perhaps not the best place and way off subject, IMO. But so be it.
Take care.
I was wondering
by statira on Mon Jan 17, 2011 03:54 PM PSTwith which flights Ahmadinejad and his herd flying?
J.S.
by mahmoudg on Mon Jan 17, 2011 03:19 PM PSTIf you have bothered reading my posts, you can see religion in general is crap. I am an equal opportunity vocal critique when it comes to religion I just give myself the right to criticize Islam. Had i been a Jew or Chrisitian, i would have equally brought up the inefficiencies of their prophets as well. This ia a business to brain wash people. I am merely providing you the tools to wake you and join the 21st century instead of letting yourselves be a tool of relgious businessmen. Here in America we have been given the right to criticize. Iam merely exercising that right. Right or wrong is up to the reader to decide. All i am saying is that for 1400 years we (my family) used relgion as a tool to rule over the people and country and now that time is up.
Mahmoud
by J.S. on Mon Jan 17, 2011 03:01 PM PSTThe hate you have for your blood line is very interesting.
But lets take the points as they are. Where in the old testament or new testament does it state an age for marriage? It does not. More so, christians and jews in history have married girls younger than 18!
But I will go on more on the point the bible states: ``if thy daughter, (hrgb) , "is ripe", or come to the flower of her age, make thy servant free and give her to him. Let me make it even more simple if she is bleeding she is ready! That can be less than 10 years-old!
//www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/gills-exposition-of-the-bible/1-corinthians-7-36.html
If you are going to be equal why do you not state that Jesus and David (______ name a profit) were all child molesters?
As for terrorism and so on. More terrorist acts have been carried out by White males in the US than arabs! You can even state, that 9/11 can be looked as a unique even based on a racial minority carring out the event.
I would go into the whole ´I hate my ancestor´ thing but really... Lol wake up and except your life for what it is...
مسافرین
siminkhanumMon Jan 17, 2011 12:18 PM PST
مسافرین عزیز با پروازهای ما شاد میروید و شادروان باز می گردید
خبر فوری: هواپیمای تهران-شیراز به سلامت به زمین نشست. کارشناسان در حال بررسی علت این ماجرا می باشند //www.irupload.ir/images/j87y61lje0krgbqsh5oz.jpg //www.irupload.ir/images/vxscuv3e27itfcxrlr7y.jpg نماینده مجلس که از پرواز هواپیمای ارومیه باز مانده گفت: تنها آرزویم شهادت است نماینده مردم ماکو، چالدران، شوط و پلدشت ضمن ابراز همدردی با بازماندگان حادثه سقوط هواپیمای مسافربری گفت: به دلیل اینکه باید برای انجام کاری در تهران می ماندم، پرواز را کنسل کردم. وی با اشاره به اینکه تنها آرزویم شهادت است و این مسأله، باعث یادآوری خاطرات همرزمان شهیدم شد، افزود: این دومین بار است که به دلیل انجام مأموریت کاری و رسیدگی به امور، مجبور به باز ماندن از پرواز شده ام که هر دوی این پروازها، منجر به سقوط شده اند. //www.tabnak.ir/files/fa/news/1389/10/20/80485_526.jpg آموزش خروج از منزل در ایران ابتدا سمت چپ و سپس سمت راست خود را نگاه کرده و بعد بالای سر خود را نگاه می کنیم در صورت عدم سقوط هواپیمایی با احتیاط از منزل خود خارج می شویم. بلیت جدید ایرلاین های ایران .. مسافرین عزیز با پروازهای ما شاد میروید و شادروان باز می گردید.. //www.irupload.ir/images/cg04i127e5ax5zcbpk2.jpg و در آخر تصویری دردناک - تلاقی خون و برف //www.asriran.com/files/fa/news/1389/10/22/162362_859.jpgIt's a right logo
by MRX1 on Mon Jan 17, 2011 09:40 AM PSTbut seriously I don't know why people even bother taking Iran Air. If you are leaving the country there are various foregin airlines you can take and internaly just drive or take a bus or even train if possible that's if you care a bit about your own life because the goons in charge they don't care.
J.S
by mahmoudg on Mon Jan 17, 2011 09:25 AM PSTJ.S. go to my website www.ghaffaris.com, you will get a kick out of me calling Mohamad "The A-rab" a child molestor. Which i have not lied, as the molestation accusation is based on the laws of 20-21st centuries. My ancestor Abuzar Ghaffari a persian albeit of semitic Sami descent is a disgrace to my country and this cult we call Islam. As islam and Arabs have done nothing throughout Man's history but to bring death, destruction, and deprevity (what contributions they made was based on Persian culture). So harp all you want, i have the connections, and the pedagogy to place myself in a unique position to prove the world, (as the US already is convinced) that Islam and A-rabs must be annihilated, in the least sidelined, if we dont want a 9/11 type event to happen again.
shameh akhar!!!
by pedramx on Mon Jan 17, 2011 09:05 AM PSThala har cheghadr ham bad bashan in khotooteh havapaymaeeh iran vali ensafan serviceshoon to havayapayma khaili khoobeh... inja ke ba southwest parvaz mikonam yk cupeh kochoolo ab miveh midan ke hamash ham ba yakh pooresh kardam va yk basteh peanut kochoolooyeh 2cmX2cm... bad ham mehmandarashoon kiseh zobaleh migiran dasteshoon va rah mioftan ashghal ha ro jam mikonan... vali chand vaghteh pish ke iran rafteh boodam to havapayma Iranair zereshk polo va beef stroganoff dadan vaseh sham... ba khkodam goftam ay jan hich ja vatan nemisheh ke to asemoonesh ham polo zereshk be adam midan! hala ke fekresho mikonam nakoneh in ghazaharo midan be onvaneh shameh akhar!! ke ageh havapayma torish shod laaghal arezoo bedel mosafera az in donya naran!!!
great work Agha pashmak
Fast rail might be the answer
by Abarmard on Mon Jan 17, 2011 08:45 AM PSTMany countries are perusing fast rail as option to travel. Iran has a great opportunity to plan and invest in this form of transportation. It's beneficial in many levels. Even if the sanctions are removed and Iran can have a modern aviation, they can still enjoy having more options to travel.
I like it
by عموجان on Mon Jan 17, 2011 08:14 AM PSTI have flown in Iranair planes in Iran they are scary. When you are walking to get in to plane you can see how beat up the airplanes are. They should blindfold passengers before they get in to planes. Poor crew they have to fly every day.
Taboote Parandeh
by statira on Mon Jan 17, 2011 08:05 AM PSTAs Iranians call it.
Arabic and Islam
by J.S. on Mon Jan 17, 2011 05:22 AM PSTArabic Is a language! Islam is a religion which used Arabic for its holy book and other teachings. The relationship stops right there. There are no such things as Islamic words. Mohammad was a prophet and not a linguist. Neither Mohammad nor other Islamic scholars added to the Arabic language in any shape or form that ordinary Arabs would know of. That could be a scholarly discussion which is beyond the scope of the inflected form of a name. According to Muslims, Mohammad was a messenger who related the messages he received from his God! He did not create the Arabic language for Islam. Issa, Moosa, Yousef are also used by Iranians. Many Iranians used to name their children without much conscious attempt at figuring out their meanings, anyway. So, every Umar must be a Muslim and every Hussein a Shi'ite Muslim, right? Wrong! Also, what have Mahmoud's parents got to do with his views on religion? Wasn't Jesus a Jew? Why is it okay for a Jew to convert to Islam, but it's not okay for a Muslim to renounce his religion? Mahmoud's reaction to this incident says nothing about his parents. And Islam is not limited to Shi'ite Islam. Many Sunnis view Shi'ism as s a cult. Is that a slander or does it amount to defamation? Hardly! If one does not believe in something one does not defame it by expressing his/her views with regards to it. When in Iran they destroy Baha'i cemeteries or in France cemetries belonging to the Jews, the expression desecration is used by those who believe in the holiness of such places or even those who would use it as a "proper" or "fixed" metaphor for such occasions without even believing in the holiness of such sites. Those who damage them do not see them as holy and their own acts as, defamation. So, let's not defame this "holy" site of IC by such illiterate arguments which smack only of demagoguery!
I guess you did not research just the last 20 posts he wrote prior to writting this reply!
In which he states ¨arab... religion... Islam... infestation¨ so for the first part of the whole verbal written diarrea please hit the good old search button.
Second, if you can not see how the following statement is ohhhh just a little defamation in nature: ¨this is the logo that should actually precede the word Islam. as it is the religion of death¨
I suggest you post the same exact variable of this but replace the word with jew on a jewish site. Please post links.
Third, a man, or assuming a man, that comes from mooooslem blood that uses statements like the prior mentioned is nothing but a self hating man. If his father and mother are moooooslem then why should his statement not apply to his own?
Miko
by SargordPirouz on Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:58 PM PSTThere's a performance bike club in Tehran that has over 50 members, They held a rally about four months ago that was featured in a FARS pictorial.
IRIPF/HP has some real gems, too. (That's a Western security reference.)
.......
by yolanda on Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:48 PM PSTThank you, Miko, for the info.......I watched a lot of post-election protest videos seeing Basijis getting around on red motocycles.....I am not sure it is high performance or low performance....
uh, oh, he can't ride his toy!
Thank you for sharing!
Yolanda
by Miko on Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:14 PM PSTWhat Has Arabic Got To Do With Islam?
by G. Rahmanian on Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:09 PM PSTArabic Is a language! Islam is a religion which used Arabic for its holy book and other teachings. The relationship stops right there. There are no such things as Islamic words. Mohammad was a prophet and not a linguist. Neither Mohammad nor other Islamic scholars added to the Arabic language in any shape or form that ordinary Arabs would know of. That could be a scholarly discussion which is beyond the scope of the inflected form of a name. According to Muslims, Mohammad was a messenger who related the messages he received from his God! He did not create the Arabic language for Islam. Issa, Moosa, Yousef are also used by Iranians. Many Iranians used to name their children without much conscious attempt at figuring out their meanings, anyway. So, every Umar must be a Muslim and every Hussein a Shi'ite Muslim, right? Wrong! Also, what have Mahmoud's parents got to do with his views on religion? Wasn't Jesus a Jew? Why is it okay for a Jew to convert to Islam, but it's not okay for a Muslim to renounce his religion? Mahmoud's reaction to this incident says nothing about his parents. And Islam is not limited to Shi'ite Islam. Many Sunnis view Shi'ism as s a cult. Is that a slander or does it amount to defamation? Hardly! If one does not believe in something one does not defame it by expressing his/her views with regards to it. When in Iran they destroy Baha'i cemeteries or in France cemetries belonging to the Jews, the expression desecration is used by those who believe in the holiness of such places or even those who would use it as a "proper" or "fixed" metaphor for such occasions without even believing in the holiness of such sites. Those who damage them do not see them as holy and their own acts as, defamation. So, let's not defame this "holy" site of IC by such illiterate arguments which smack only of demagoguery!
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by yolanda on Sun Jan 16, 2011 10:36 PM PSTThank you, 13th Legion, for your great post and rebuttal!
I think he rather rides his motorcycle across Iran than getting on VIran Air....
Passdar Pirooz
by 13th Legion on Sun Jan 16, 2011 10:14 PM PST“That's in really bad taste. If I were a family member of one of the crash victims, I'd be deeply offended.
”Really??And so your insensitive nasty comments you made on the day the young prince past way to the majority of Iranians and his family witch happen to be among the human body were in good taste and out of ethical sensitivity? You just keep making a bigger ass out of yourself as each day goes by ;)
And you keep on yapping about how you accept Iran and its fascist government for what it is, well for starters it’s a dictator ship that sees America as its number one enemy and if you accept them then you also accept America as your enemy, then what business do you have calling yourself American?
And as for your favorite word “Iranians in diaspora” well if you are not living in within the system and rag head dictatorship that you some much approve of and accept what does that make you, diaspora? Mental and social diaria is more like it.
If you love them so much why don’t you just go live with them and stop hiding behind wanting to be an American? And hey have no worries about flying back home with VIran Air it’s only a one time pilot error ;))
VERY COOL AND TIMELY LOGO, sad but true, God bless the victims and their families.
But Mash...
by SargordPirouz on Sun Jan 16, 2011 09:43 PM PSTIt was likely pilot error that caused the crash. You want to somehow blame an entire government for a pilot's poor decision to fly in adverse weather conditions? Boy, you're really reachin' fella. By the same token, why not blame the Iranian National Soccer team, why don'tcha.
Are you able to read airport flying condition reports? I posted them on a previous thread for Bavafa (who is a pilot). Check 'em out if you're able, and you tell me who's really to blame.
SP: shallow
by Mash Ghasem on Sun Jan 16, 2011 08:23 PM PSTYour rather shallow "journalistic" take on Iran and its realities is too limited to understand that: these pilots are some of the best in the world.
Most of them are the veterans of the War, same ones who fought and flew during the Iraq War, and would receive at least twice as much salary only if they worked in one the Sheikdom's around the Persian Gulf, but for whatever reason they stick with their people, and fly these outdated, 20, 30 years old planes.
It should be clear: pilots are not the problem, it's IR and it's most dysfunctional ruling apparatus. It's making even Ghajar's look good!
Mahmoud
by J.S. on Sun Jan 16, 2011 08:18 PM PST¨this is the logo that should actually precede the word Islam. as it is the religion of death. But then again, life in the Islamic Republic means nothing. When the government of Israel passes on her condolencese to the people of Iran, but the supreme leader sees it beneath himself to do so, tells volumes about the deprevity of Islam and those ruling Iran.¨
Mahmoud:
//define.com/Mahmoud
This is funny. The guy that states the above is named after the ARABIC version of the name mooooooohammmmmed. Seriously?
So Mahhhhhhhmoud tell me. What does that say about the mother and father that named you that? How about your grand parents?
That logo should proceed everything about your family, correct? Your forefathers come from ¨death¨ and are evil, correct?
It is interesting how repeated religious defamation (in this context: Defamation—also called calumny, vilification, slander (for transitory statements), and libel (for written, broadcast, or otherwise published words)—is the communication of a statement that makes a claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individual, business, product, group, government, or nation a negative image. It is usually a requirement that this claim be false and that the publication is communicated to someone other than the person defamed (the claimant).
is not censored but is used by you 100s of times without you being banned, why?
Pilot errors can cause fatal accidents
by SargordPirouz on Sun Jan 16, 2011 08:05 PM PSTBut when they happen in the US, we don't jump up and down and blame the President, the Senate , the House, the Supreme Court and the US Constitution.
Well maybe a few kooks do. That should tell you something...
Hay at least Iranian pilots
by norooz on Sun Jan 16, 2011 09:37 PM PSTHay at least Iranian pilots are not flying drunk or under the influence of drugs. Again, the responsibility of these crashes fall for the most parts on US for violating the international aviation laws in addition to many others.
Why are you so happy?
I get it.
by AlexInFlorida on Sun Jan 16, 2011 07:48 PM PSTSomeone is playing a trick on us.
That is actually a beautiful picture of Khomeini's mother, while pregnant with khomeini. That's where her son Ruhollah got his looks from. Great set of teeth.
The Truth Will Set You Free... Painful as it is.
by AlexInFlorida on Sun Jan 16, 2011 07:44 PM PSTLook what happenened to the wealthiest and most Free country in the Middle East. Iran.
Now Mullahs are Teaching Islam to us. They can't even afford to maintain planes, forget about managing a country.
This is the real picture for the whole of iran, not just Iran Air.
Shah was fortunate not to have to seen this. God Loved him too much to let him see what mullahs would do to a once great country he had built, following the constitution of Iran.
What a beautiful poem from سارا شريعتی
Anahid HojjatiSun Jan 16, 2011 07:44 PM PST
It is not only this cartoon. Iranians, mostly those inside Iran have reponded to this tragedy by ridiculing the officials.
JJ:
by G. Rahmanian on Sun Jan 16, 2011 07:44 PM PSTNot a good photo. You look more scary than the late Shahid SP's blue ghost!
SP:
by G. Rahmanian on Sun Jan 16, 2011 07:28 PM PSTYou ain't no art lover, after all. Just enjoy the fun of ridiculing IR thieves. Funny YOU should speak of respect for the dead. But as they say, talk is cheap. Iranians are frustrated, angry AND sad and they know who to blame for the loss! P.S. Double negative in the first sentence was on purpose and for emphasis.