Happy Birthday Cyrus Reza Pahlavi,
You are responsible for keeping the Royal Institution of Iran alive and well. Many think that you are far too much of an idealist, and have moved slowly. You stand firm and educate all Iranians what their national and cultural duties are. You remind us regularly where the divide is between the alien Seyyeds, and the true Iranians. We all know that the Royal Institution is there to keep the politics and religious domains of Iran separated from the ancient culture of Iran. The national character of Iran is held in the Royal Institution, and you are the personification of that Institution. You gallantly defend non violent regime change. We will change Iran in a civilized way. We can warn the Seyyeds that they have no chance against a national strike. The Iranian nation loves Iran above all else, and will threaten aliens like Seyyeds with a General Strike at the appropriate time. Until that time, the Seyyeds will know that they can be paralyzed by the Iranian nation, if the nation decided not to run the country for them. We are all united in non violent regime change.
(I will ignore any rude comments, but will gladly reply civil ones. Please do not abuse your right to speak, it will be flagged).
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Dear Ali...
by Ben Madadi on Thu Nov 01, 2007 06:27 AM PDTI am sure you are a nice guy. I would gladly meet you one day, God willing. However you believe in dangerous 'ideals' that sound good but hide some henous realities. The Pahlavis, Reza Shah and his son, have been nothing but normal peolpe, and there is no proof whatsoever to make them any better than anybody else. If there was a royal institution in Iran to be restored, like the one in Britain (which is useless too, but brings tourists) it would have been something, but there is no royal institution. Iran has usually been ruled by bandits.
Food for Thought: Georgia Seeks Restoration of Monarchy
by Darius Kadivar on Thu Nov 01, 2007 05:49 AM PDTnuff said........
by kavehP (not verified) on Thu Nov 01, 2007 05:29 AM PDThistory is written by the victors.......... and then the truth eventually outs
//www.emadbaghi.com/en/archives/000592.php#mo...
by the way Emad-o-din baghi is languishing in IRI jail at the moment.......
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by Red Wine on Thu Nov 01, 2007 04:16 AM PDTRe: Javad E.
by jamshid on Thu Nov 01, 2007 02:42 AM PDTThank you for reminding me not to be fooled. Yes it is much easy to be deceived, and it so difficult not to.
When you refer to the shah's brutality, you could be refering to one of the two possible things that may or may not necessarily be the same. You may be refering to...
1. What his enemies told about him.
2. What the truth really was.
The question is how can "2", the truth be determined. If you go by "1", what his enemies spread about him, you will quickly find that you have an unresolvable issue in your hands. Namely some of what was told about him were later refuted BY HIS OWN ENEMIES. A few examples:
1. Cinema Rex incident.
2. Jaleh Square incident.
3. The number of political prisoners.
4. The number of those killed during his reign.
5. The amount of money he "stole".
6. Famous people killed by his order, eg, Dr. Shariati, Takhti, etc.
7. Mismanagement of the economy and deprivation of his people.
8. The list can go on...
We could not have been in every place at once to directly witness all of the above. We relied on what we heard. I discovered that some of what I "heard" and "believed" was exagerated by two order of magnitude (by 100 times). How did I discover this? By reading resources from his own enemies, the mullahs, BaniSadr, MEK, etc.
So then what do you want me to do? In 1978, when I heard how the shah ordered the fire and the horrible massacre of Cinema Rex, I was among the firsts to go to the streets and chant "death to the shah" and set fire on tires and other things along with other demonstrator. The word from pro-Khomeini Islamists was that the Shah ordered the incident. 20+ years later, we discover, through the mullahs themselves, that it was not ordered by him, that it was done by Islamists.
So what do you want me to do? Do you want me not to doubt all the other things that were said about him? Ok. I won't. I will believe the rest. But then I remember Khomeini's speeches on cassette, telling us about "hundreds of thousands" killed by the shah. Again 20+ later, I discover through the mullahs' archivists that the number was less than 4000, IN HIS ENTIRE REIGN.
So now what do you want me to do? Continue believing the other stuff? Ok. I will. Then I remember being told that the number of political prisoners were 300,000, yes "three hundred thousands". This was one of the big major reasons I became a student activist and participated in the demonstrations. Then 10+ years later I am being told, again by the shah's very own enemies, that that number was more like 30,000 (thirty thousands), then 10 years after that I am being told, again by shah's own enemies, that number was about 3000 (three thousands)....
So I ask again. What do you want me to do? I'll tell you what I must do. What any deceived person whose country, whose fellow Iranian brothers and sisters were utterly destroyed by those who deceived us should do: NOT TO BELIEVE ALL AND EVERTHING THAT WAS SAID TO US ABOUT THE SHAH DURING THE REVOLUTION.
When I take everything into consideration, I conclude that the Shah was brutal ONLY to the Islamists and their leftist accomplices, not to the average Iranian. That's why Islamists/leftists hate him so much and they attempt so hard to depict him as brutal towards all segments of the Iranian population which is utterly false, but in 78, people, including me, were bought into it. And today many still are under the spell of those lies.
By the way, whatever happened to one of the shah's most brutal acts against Iran's youth, in the cities and in the farthest reaching villages? I am refering to "taghzieye raayeggaan" (among other brutal acts....)
don't be fooled again
by Javad E. (not verified) on Thu Nov 01, 2007 12:38 AM PDTdon't be fooled again Jamshid! You are right about the atmosphere of hype and emotion before the revolution. But this man's father was a brutal dictator and the people had real anger at Shah. If you are changing history to say that it was all a mistake, you are being fooled again. No need to defend SAVAK if you don't like the Mullahs.
Seyyeds are arabzadeh and
by Anonymous234 (not verified) on Thu Nov 01, 2007 12:29 AM PDTSeyyeds are arabzadeh and the same people that willingly bent over for the arabs!!! Now, they are proud to have been been raped first hand by arabs!!!
Re: Caspianseamermaid and other deceived Iranians...
by jamshid on Thu Nov 01, 2007 12:11 AM PDT(Note: the word "people" in my comment below does not apply to IRI supporters. They have excluded themselves from the "people" by supporting IRI.)
It's difficult to read some of the same trash that were fed to me in 78, now today after 29 years. The same sort of trash that was used to deceive people and to draw idiots like me to the streets in 1978. They are being repeated now. Do you take the Iranian people for idiots?
Shah's looted property? What looted property? Are you talking about the crown jewels the Shah COULD take with him but didn't, you ignorants? Yes, the same crown jewels the mullash looted instead. Are you talking about all the billions of dollars that he COULD take with him but he didn't? Why couldn't the mullahs produce one, ONE, shred of evidence on those stolen billions? NOT EVEN ONE. They took over all the accounts, books, banks, documents, and couldnt' come up with anything.
Yes, the Shah was a rich man, but so what? Did you expect the King of Iran to be a homeless or an average middle class Joe? There were Americans Senators that were hundreds of time wealthier than the Shah. And for whatever he had, I say NOOSHEH JOONESH.
"All the limbs torn in his oh-so gallant SAVAK ways..."??? What limbs? Where? Show one incident of a "torn limb" by SAVAK or any other agency. Just one. ONE.
This is the same sort of trash they fed me and others in 78 to take advantage of our Iranian hot-bloodedness and to induce hatred towards the shah. And yes, I did fell for this Savak crap and many other craps. I even fell for the 300,000 (three hundred thousands) political prisoner crap that turned out to be 3500.
And who were some of these 3500 prisoners? As far as I remember they were the same people who destroyed Iran, these bastard Islamists who are killing your brothers and sisters now, and their even more bastard leftist accomplices.
DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY OF THE MURDERERS CURRENTLY IN THE IRI REGIME WERE IN THE SAVAK PRISON? And now that you know what these Islamists were planning for Iran, now that you can witness their atrocities on a daily basis, what do YOU think should have been done to them and to their plans, back in the 70s?
Those Islamists and their leftist whores were RIGHTFULLY AND NECESSARILY placed in prison TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE, from being raped by what you see today as IRI and all their lackeys. Savak failed because it should have been harsher. Any new regime that might replace the IRI will execute half of these ruling mullahs because they deserve it. And during the shah, they deserved prison and exile, which is exaclty what they got, just not enough.
And as far as NONE-Islamist/leftist, take Sanjabi who on several occasions spend a few days in prison, only to be fed with chelo kabaab and then be released.
As far as I am concerned I am glad Savak mistreated these bastards who are in power now. If I knew back then what I know today, I would JOIN them. For crying outloud, STOP repeating the same bullshit that YOUR OWN enemies fed you in order to manipulate you and then destroy you and your country.
Majid
by Ney Player (not verified) on Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:47 PM PDTI agree Majid. The "left" is pretty dogmatic and not at all suitable to the future of Iran. They are not now nor have they ever been a serious contender anyways. The Tudeh and Cheriks have all but disappeared. Mojaheds lost all credibility when they started doing Saddam's bidding.
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What irks me the most is this clown neem pahlavi who tries to come across as Vatan-parast but is really nothing but a nokar-e-amrica. Yet you get people on this site ke az koonesh gherghere meekonand big time. Like this Ali Mostofi guy. Really sad to see.
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mokhless
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by Majid on Sat Nov 03, 2007 07:40 PM PDTdeleted
خدا بیامرز....
Dariushagha (not verified)Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:06 PM PDT
گلسرخی...خرابکار بود...چی مزخرف میگی؟؟؟ 4 تا شعر بند تنبونی نوشت و یک بیسواد به به چهه چهه کردن... زمان شاه همین آشغالهای الان روی کارند را توی زندانها حبس کرده بودند...منجمله خامنی ای....حالا خوبه میبینید...چقدر جمهوری منفور اسلامی مخالف داره که در زمان شاه نبود...خیانتکاریهای فردوس...قره باقی... بازرگان..سنجری...و و و و.... ولی حیف که شاه فرار کرد...یک نفر فرار کرد..70 میلیون اسیر شدن....
Majid
by Bardia M. (not verified) on Wed Oct 31, 2007 09:08 PM PDTWellput bro. I just want to say to you please do something. Start something. Write something. you and nader and others like you. you lived the revolution. i was born few months after in America. You know what you're talking about unlike these other dudes here. do something man. something better than these comments... you have the right ideas and experience. It's possible.
Historical Facts
by Arion Barzan (not verified) on Wed Oct 31, 2007 08:45 PM PDTTakhti committed suicide because of family related problems, his wife and mother did not get along and he suffered as a result of this. Many tried to attribute his death to the Shah's regime but his own family, those who were close to hisfamily know better. In those days, anybody and everybody, attributed everything to the regime to serve their own agenda.
Khosro Ruzbeh was a decent and highly idealistic individual who was manipulated by the likes of Abdol-Samad Kambakhsh (Soviet's #1 spy in Iran during those years) and Kianouri
(he does not need any introduction). Ruzbeh committed murder, at the orders of Kianour, killing Mohammad Masoud, so that the death could be blamed on the Imperial Court. It is sad when a decent person, regardless of ideology, goes astray. But, then again, extreme ideologies do make people become blind to their ideology's self-righteousness.
Golesorkhi was a 3rd rate poet who masterminded the attempt to kidnap the crown prince. His followers, with the exception of Keramat Daneshian, all repented and were forgiven.
Jazani's killing along with those of 8 other was a reaction to the assasination of Abbass Shahriai (communist turned informant) and General Zandipour. This was a war. Both sides killed each other. When you look at a single incident, it is easier to claim a moral standing and superiority. But, when you look at the whole picutre, things are not as back and while anymore. The perpective changes when you are willing to go beyond the romantic
confinement of the events and dare to see the truth.
History, today, shows that communism, was a total failure, from the collapse of the Soviet Union/Eastern Europe to the capitalization of Mao's China. Killingg fields of Cambodia and an Albanian style society would have evolved in Iran, had the likes of Jazani, Golesorkhi, and Roozbeh succeeded.
Respectfully,
Ney player
by Majid on Wed Oct 31, 2007 08:42 PM PDTKhalghee ha "arbaab" nadaarand, vali hanoozam ke hanooze nowkar-e afkaar-e khodeshoon hastand......HANOOZ !!
Een haa va Pahlavi talab ha, too "hezaar-o-divisst-o-Ahmad Shah" geer kardand !
Damet garm DAADAASH,
Naader jaan to ham hamin tor DAADAASH.
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by Majid on Sat Nov 03, 2007 08:15 PM PDT......
waste of time
by Ney Player (not verified) on Wed Oct 31, 2007 08:26 PM PDTاین شاه پرست ها منو یاد یه روایت میندازن.
یه بابایی داشت کنار دریای خزر راه میرفت که رسید به یک نفر که داشت سطل سطل تو دریا ماست میریخت. ازش پرسید چیکار میکنی؟ گفت دارم دوغ درست میکنم. گفت میدونی چقدر ماست لازمه که این همه اب دوغ بشه؟ گفت اره میدونم احتمالش کمه ولی اگر بشه میدونی چقدر دوغ میشه؟
Majid's post said it.
by Nader on Wed Oct 31, 2007 07:43 PM PDTAs usual right on the money.
Aren't we in this mess because of that dude?
Could someone help me out here?
بابا جان فکر فردا باش که خربوزه ابه. دو دستی مملکتو تقدیم اینا کردن. حالا هر کدومشون تو قصر نشستن
نابودی کشورو نگاه میکنند و شب راحت میگیرن میخوابن!!! ما دیگه گول بخور نیستیم داداش
Majid
by Ney Player (not verified) on Wed Oct 31, 2007 07:32 PM PDTMajid,
Dashteem dadaash? Kee pass bayad be in khalgh berese? Man yeki ke nemitoonam. hameesheh mabsoot Kiloi mechasboonam o halam khoobe vali moosh az khoonam balghoor mibareh. kee halesho dare. Man yeki neestam. La aghal bezhar marde sharghi karesho bokoneh. Behtar as in neem pahlavi e nokare ke. Neest? in khalgheeha degeh arbar nadaran mesle ghadeem. nokare kessi neestan.
What? Majid? Are you really saying what I think You are?
by Bardia M. (not verified) on Wed Oct 31, 2007 07:22 PM PDTIs it possible to be an Iran Lover and NOT be monarchist? Whooaaaaaaaa that's so progressive. Wait.... u must work for IRI. How much money do you get to sell yourself? Shame on you for calling yourself an Iran lover.
Also
by Bardia M. (not verified) on Wed Oct 31, 2007 07:16 PM PDTI used to work in the club industry during college. One of the funniest things was when a monarchist baby got into a fight with a non-monarchist person and we had to kick them out. that monarchist baby was such an asshole. politics is nasty..... but this doesn't seem like politics, its some kinda worship or something worse. if reza pahlavi was gay, would you suck him off?
Mard-e sharghi
by Majid on Wed Oct 31, 2007 07:13 PM PDTMy comment (4th from bottom ) applies to you as well as MEKs, toode-ees, Shahi's and EVERYONE else other than IRAN lovers.
Go back in front of Tehran university in 1979-80 my friend, and let "KHALGH" alone , "KHALGH" is sick and tired of this bull crap!
just human.....relax!
by Bardia M. (not verified) on Wed Oct 31, 2007 07:13 PM PDTSo interesting. Do you people really celebrate the birthday of this guy? He's just a human being made of blood and bones..... you guys really worship him that much just because he was made out of the sperms and ejaculation of his dad?
As Britney Spears would say "fuck it. ya'll are nuts"
Also, whatever became of the other "heir" son? What is he up to? Hiding from his embarassing ass kisser brother maybe?
It's possible!
by NotSoAnonymous (not verified) on Wed Oct 31, 2007 07:08 PM PDTIf Dinasours were to return, Pahlavis would be next!
I mean fellows get over it! Stop looking for hope at your rear end!
Shahees and religious fenatics have moer in common than they realize! They both look in to past!!
Shah was a puppet! If you are missing him buy another one from store. It's Halloween after all you should be able to get one! He had blood of many Iranians on his hands too.
Why are we still talking about him?! You must be crazy!
To mard-e Shargi
by verified but (not verified) on Wed Oct 31, 2007 07:00 PM PDTWhy do you want to increase the fire in hell? Their hell happened in this world. After all that EHEN-O-TOLOP, he couldn't find a hole to crawl into and die. No one would let his holiness in to their country including his ARBAB the US of A whose ass he was kissing all the time. What hell worse than that? His mother, Tajolmoluk, died in Khefat in NY a few years ago and was buried in an unmarked group grave in a section of semetery dedicated to homeless and unknown people. None of them would dish out a few bucks for a proper burial for her. Farah sent $5K from Paris to Alireza for her burial. Poola ro khord o yek panj seeri postesh! What glory for the Royal family!
No sir, their hell was right here. What Neemsooz gets shoved up their ass in hell is just a bonus.
Death to Shah and his followers
by Mard_e Sharghi (not verified) on Wed Oct 31, 2007 06:44 PM PDTاینها همه به زباله دانی تاریخ سپرده شده اند. آن بی همه چیز ارتشی که ناخن جماعت را جلوی زن و بچه اش می کشید که اعتراف بگیرد، اکنون خودش خاکستر شده است. پنجاه سال خون مردم را کردند توی یک شیشه و بعد هم انتظار دارند مردم برایشان شیون و زاری کنند. به درک که سرطان گرفت. مگر خون او از یک ایرانی دیگر رنگین تر است؟ اصلا چه کسی این آشغال ها را شاه کرد؟ پنجاه سال شکنجه، تجاوز، قتل، اعدام، دزدی، دروغ و غارت. دیدار به جهنم پهلو به پهلوی بابای دیوس ات. همان جاکش های خارجی که اموال خلقهای تحت ستم ایران را دادند به فاحشه های اروپائی و بر سر میز های قمار باختند. اگر می توانستم به شیطان می گفتم آتش جهنم را بیشتر کند. هر چه بر سرشان بیاید کم است. تختی را از یاد نبرید. و گلسرخی را و خسرو روزبه را و بیژن جزنی و تمام یاران جنگل را. درود بر خلقهای قهرمان ایران. درود بر شهدای راه آزادی. مرگ بر استبداد از هر نوع و رنگ و در هر لباس و یونیفرم.. زنده باد راه صمد بهرنگی. درود بر زنان قهرمان ایران. درود بر رزمندگان انقلابی.
Dead for all practical purposes!
by Shahanshah (not verified) on Wed Oct 31, 2007 06:34 PM PDTI see dead people!I hear dumb people!
Happy birthday for to dead man?
It's going to be a long day in hellbefore Pahlavi rises from their GRAVE!
"Bozak nameer bahar miyad. Kharboozeo khyar myad"!
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by Majid on Sat Nov 03, 2007 08:09 PM PDTdeleted
Oh goody, prezzies all round!
by caspianseamermaid on Wed Oct 31, 2007 05:56 PM PDTCould you please ask his 'highness' to excercise some of his famous generosity and give back to the Iranian people, every bit of looted property and by magic all the limbs torn in his oh-so gallant SAVAK ways?
Oh, Bless!
Seriously, Alimostofi, you retarded pleb worshippers are just as insane as the current crop of murderous thugs. Same self-serving icky ilk.
Shame on you.
P.S. I don't believe in flags let alone being flagged nor flogged.
Hey Reza's friend, maybe you
by Abdollah (not verified) on Wed Oct 31, 2007 05:55 PM PDTHey Reza's friend, maybe you should ask Rafsanjani's children. They would know better how to answer your retarded questions.
Majid
by Ney Player (not verified) on Wed Oct 31, 2007 05:46 PM PDTAreh daram. But you didn't answer my question?
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Baladi ya na? Mizani ya na?