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Current crisis in Middle East from the eye of an Iranian-American

Balatarin

The current intense circumstances in the Middle East between the Palestinians and Israel provokes the mind of an Iranian-American individual in a way that the number one priority should be how to liberate Iran from the shackles of the terrorist Islamic Republic--especially since Iran has become another Palestine, occupied by Mullah’s Islamic Republic for the past 35 years.

 

The Israeli-Palestinian issues are complex and one might not have enough knowledge on how to resolve this problem or the resources/time to allocate. Rather, Iranian-Americans should focus their efforts, resources and energies to their own problems because they more than their own share of problems in Iran to work on.

 

Although an Iranian-American respects the human rights issue, one cannot be selective or tunnel visioned by the crises in the Middle East.  Considering the rights of Palestinians, condemnation of the human rights abuses should also include the terrorist Islamic Republic in Iran, Putin bombarding Chechens in Russia, the Chinese government killing Tibetans, etc. Therefore, recognition of human right abuses should be fair and consistent throughout the world. Note that if it is one sided, then it would be considered hypocrisy.

 

For example, for several years Basher Assad of Syria has been murdering his own people by the hundreds of thousands and there has been no condemnation and protestation by the Islamic communities in America. All of a sudden, one can see this anger directed towards Israel which raises this question: “Is this some kind of double standard?!”

 

In the mind of an Iranian-American focusing on human rights, Cyrus the Great comes to mind; the man who introduced the first decleration of human rights in the world. Looking at the Bible, one might find out that Cyrus the Great, the founding father of Iranian civilization, has been glorified in the Bible by Jews at least 23 times. And the Jews have been living in Iran long before the Moslems invaded the Persian Empire and imposed their Bedouin tribal religion on the citizens of the City-State based Persian civilization. So, as an Iranian, one might think to ask why Iranians consider the Jews to be their enemy and the Moslem Arabs to be their friend? This is an amazing paradox that I find mind-boggling.

 

The Israeli population is about 8 million, of which only about 6 million are Jewish; a total that is less than half the population of the city of Tehran. The population of Iran is about 80 million. One might think how could a mere 6 million Jews be considered a threat to Iran? The size of Iranian land is 80 times larger than that of the Israel and Iran has vast natural resources where as Israel lacks these resources. So again, how is it possible that such a small country can be a threat to Iran? The terrorist Islamic Republic has demonized Israel for the past 35 years that it has no basis in the real world.

 

Furthermore, the entire population of Jews worldwide is about 13 million versus the population of Moslems which is about 1.6 billion--meaning that  for every one Jew there are about 123 Moslems. Jews are significantly outnumbered by Moslems. How could such a minuscule number of Jews be considered a major threat to such a huge number of Moslems who have such an enormous amount of natural resources throughout the world?

 

One might think that the roots of these conflicts are for the most part based in jealousy. There is a relatively large number of Israeli companies listed in the NASDAQ Stock Market, yet not a single company is registered from any of the Islamic countries in the Middle East. Despite the lack of natural resources in Israel, within the past 65 years, Israelis have been using their brain power and have been able to build some great companies in many advanced industries and technological fields. This leaves one to wonder if Moslems are simply jealous of such brain power generated by the Jews!

 

With a deep understanding of the current situation of Islamic world and the above facts and figures, one might realize that as the Islamic world gradually modernizes their lifestyle and moves toward upgrading their standard of living, similar to what happened to the European Christians during dark ages by the protestant movement, only then would it prosper and thrive throughout the world (and eventually many of the current problems would go away automatically).

 

As indicated, the Reformation of Martin Luther of Germany starting on 1517 paved the road for modernity, prosperity and advancement in Europe. The question is, how could we have Reformation in Islam? In order to answer this question, we need to do a comparative analysis between the original teachings of Mohamed and Jesus Christ. The original teachings of Jesus Christ revolve around “Love”.  Where as the original teachings of Mohammad can be divided into 2 distinct eras:

  1. Islam in Mecca (About 13 years)

Relatively speaking in this period of Mohammad’s life the original teachings of Mohammad is somewhat similar to the original teachings of Jesus Christ.  The message is peaceful and spiritual,

  1. Islam in Medina (About 10 years):

Mohammad’s message drastically changes and it adds the following two key ingredients into this religion. This becomes a paradigm shift to Islam.

  1. Politics
  2. Violence (Jihad)

In Medina Islam goes through a metamorphosis process and becomes an expansionist religion and this changes everything.

 

The Islam in Gaza led by Hamas, the Shea Islam in Iran led by Islamic Republic, Lebanese Hezbollah, the ISIS in Iraq, Taliban in Afghanistan, Al Qaida, Islamic Jihad, the Egyptian Moslem Brotherhood and many other similar groups subscribe to this version of Islam in Medina.

 

As a result it would be almost impossible to have the Islamic version of Reformation. Christianity unlike Islam did not become politicized or violent during Jesus Christ’s life time.

 

So, if Reformation in Islam is impossible then who are the Baha’is?  Isn’t Baha’i faith a Reformation in Shea Islam? It is true that Baha’i faith is a Reformation in Shea Islam led by Siyyid `Alí Muḥammad Shírází on May 23, 1844 which is very much similar to the Reformation in Christianity led by Martin Luther that created Protestant movement. However the Shea Clergy declared a Fatwa (a religious decree) to kill all the members of this movement. Shea Clergy (Mullah) committed genocide and murdered more than 20,000 people of this movement. It was an unprecedented genocide in Iran as they basically crushed this progressive and advanced religious movement.

 

Now the question is what is Shea Islam? This religion which is a small minority in Islam was created and developed by Iranians. Shea Islam is mainly a bastardized version of the real Islam. Since the socio-psychology of Iranians is very different than the socio-psychology of the Arabs, the Iranians tried to tailor Islam to fit their semi Iranian and semi Islamic life style. It is a hybrid or a mixed breed version of Islam. This religion primarily was promoted and expanded during the Safavid Dynasty during the 1500s. In the early 16th century while the Christianity was faced with a major Civil War in Europe (Catholicism verses the Protestant movement) and the Ottoman Empire was considered a major threat to Christianity in Europe, the Catholicism leadership helped, encouraged and supported the Safavid Dynasty to create a Shea based government in Persia.

 

The split in Islam would cause a major diversion and a source of distraction for the powerful Ottoman Empire and weaken the Ottomans. This is how the Europeans thought they can most effectively divide the Islamic world and conquer them. That is why we can see some similarities between Christianity and Shea Islam.  For example both these two religions are Messianic faiths, meaning that they both believe there is a Messiah (a religious savior) who will return to save the mankind from evil. In the case of Christianity this savior is Jesus Christ and in the case of Shea Islam this savior is called Imam Mehdi.

 

The following analogy might be an appropriate remedy to the Medina (Jihadist and political) version of Islam. We can use Thomas Jefferson’s Bible as a guide to introduce a similar Quran to Moslems. Meaning that we should eliminate all the Quranic verses which are political or violent in nature and cleanse Quran from these two key elements of Politics and Violence. Then we could have a peaceful Islam. Otherwise we will continue to have continuous violence, intolerance and hate through out the entire Islamic world.

 

Balatarin

DavidRamezani @DavidRamezani

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Bavafa

Bavafa   Free copy of all e-mails, posts and voice conversation at NSA depository, no sign up is required and it won't cost you a dime only your freedom. Mehrdad

Dear David,
I read your article and thought to share with you with an alternative view form another Iranian-American. These are my personal views and I don’t profess to speak for other Iranian-Americans.

But first a few responses to the points raised by you and I try to be as brief as possible

“especially since Iran has become another Palestine, occupied by Mullah’s Islamic Republic for the past 35 years”

I was wondering what criteria do you use to declare Iran an occupied land for the past 35 years? Is there any foreign military presence in Iran? Are the rulers belong to a different nationality or has been any UN resolution supporting/declaring Iran as an occupied territory?

I do understand and share the idea that the Iranian government is not a representative government of vast majority of Iranians, but that will only make a dictatorship, a tyranny but hardly an occupier? If we are going to be taken seriously, we ought to make our statements in such way that is more or less representative of truth and facts on the ground. Otherwise it is nothing by an empty rhetoric.


“ask why Iranians consider the Jews to be their enemy and the Moslem Arabs to be their friend”

I don’t consider Jews as my enemy nor Moslem Arabs only to be my friend. I believe vast majority of those who object to the type of brutality that we have seen in recent weeks but also the 47-year occupation are simply appalled by the action of the Israeli government and the continuation of the occupation, Ghettoization of Gaza, check points and the apartheid system in Israel. They, I am, just as appalled by the sheer violence in Syria which I hold not only the Assad regime and its backers (i.e. Iran and Russia) responsible but also the ISIS who are being supported directly by Saudis and indirectly by the West. Arguably, ISIS has shown far more brutality than the Assad regime. I also never consider Saudi kingdom as friends or be friendly to them.


“How could such a minuscule number of Jews be considered a major threat to such a huge number of Moslems who have such an enormous amount of natural resources throughout the world”

Look no further than Palestine which has been under the occupation for 47 years now. Look no further than the death and destructions that has befallen Gaza in the last few weeks or the last 8 years. This is how a minuscule regime which is armed with nuclear weapon as well as very advance conventional weapons can inflicted such terror on a population. It need not need to be said that ALL Arab and nearly all Muslim nations are being ruled by dictators/puppet and incompetent governments

“This leaves one to wonder if Moslems are simply jealous of such brain power generated by the Jews”

Jealousy as the root cause??!?!?!? Seriously?????? If that is your premise then I can’t really say much to that.

“Christianity unlike Islam did not become politicized or violent during Jesus Christ’s life time”
One ought not to forget that far more humans have been killed by the Christian countries and certainly far more Jews have been murdered by the Christian country (i.e. Germany) than by Muslims. This statement however should not be taken as an acceptance or condoning the killing and murder by the Muslims. I condemn all acts of violence.


Anyway, I as a human being but also as an Iranian-American am deeply appalled by the action and brutality that is taking affect in Gaza. I deeply regret the assistance and complicity of my own government by supplying more arms, financial and political support that is being given to this rather fascist like regime in Tele Aviv which has enabled it to continue with the type of policies that we have seen for the last 47 years.


Mehrdad

DavidRamezani

DavidRamezani David Ramezani

Hello Mehrdad:

Thanks for your response.

Occupation issue:

Spain was under Islamic occupation from 709 until 1614 for about 905 years, until the Spaniards were able to throw out Islam all together and get back to their original culture and heritage that existed before invasion of Spain by Islam. If people chose to remain Moslems, I can not force them to abandon their religion, but Islam absolutely has no right to become a government and rule over this country. That is called occupation since Islam is not an Iranian religion.

“I don’t consider Jews as my enemy nor Moslem Arabs only to be my friend. I believe vast majority of those who object to the type of brutality that we have seen in recent weeks but also the 47-year occupation are simply appalled by the action of the Israeli government and the continuation of the occupation, Ghettoization of Gaza, check points and the apartheid system in Israel. They, I am, just as appalled by the sheer violence in Syria which I hold not only the Assad regime and its backers (i.e. Iran and Russia) responsible but also the ISIS who are being supported directly by Saudis and indirectly by the West. Arguably, ISIS has shown far more brutality than the Assad regime. I also never consider Saudi kingdom as friends or be friendly to them.”

If you are concerned with the situation in Palestine, I would respectfully suggest you to move to Palestine and help the Palestinians there. You can fight the Israelis or do anything you like to. I am not going to stop you. However, that is not my number one priority. My number one priority is to liberate my original country of Iran. Why should the Iranian resources be spent on other people’s cause? Iran already is faced with enough challenges of its own to deal with. This nation can not afford and it is not in any position to deal with other people’s problems.

Jealousy issue:

Nobel Prizes have been awarded to over 850 individuals, of whom at least 20% were Jews or of Jewish descent, although Jews comprise less than 0.2% of the world's population, (or 1 in every 500 people). Overall, Jews have won a total of 41% of all the Nobel Prizes in economics, 28% of medicine, 26% of Physics, 19% of Chemistry, 13% of Literature and 9% of all peace awards

Can you please name a Moslem scientist who won a Nobel Prize?

“One ought not to forget that far more humans have been killed by the Christian countries and certainly far more Jews have been murdered by the Christian country (i.e. Germany) than by Muslims. This statement however should not be taken as an acceptance or condoning the killing and murder by the Muslims. I condemn all acts of violence.”

In my write-up, I was comparing Jesus Christ with Mohammad. I was trying to say Jesus never killed anyone and he never became a political leader (Caliph) where as Mohammad killed people who disagreed with him and he became a political leader (Caliph).

Christianity was chosen by the Romans around 325 to be their religion of choice. Islam has never ever been the religion of choice in Iran and it has never ever been the religion of choice in any place in the world and it was imposed on people by sheer force only.

Bavafa

Bavafa   Free copy of all e-mails, posts and voice conversation at NSA depository, no sign up is required and it won't cost you a dime only your freedom. Mehrdad

David,
If I may put your own suggestion to yourself and since you are so concern about Iran and its occupation, one wonders why you are not going to Iran to free it from its occupier?

Or perhaps if I may ask when Iran was attacked and occupied by an Arab dictator, Saddam, did you pick up arms to defend it?

In regards to your point about Jesus, I suffice to say that Jesus did not kill any one but their followers have certainly killed plenty, some of the worse killing examples in the world history.

As for your other points, I think they are all self explanatory and won't need further clarifications.

Mehrdad

daryoosh10

Darius Pourshasb

With regards to your claim that Christians have killed many, that is true, you can always say that those christians never followed Christ's teachings, since Jesus would never have killed or used violence, however you cannot say that to a moslem, since mohamad's own hands were stained by blood with the killing of many of his enemies. That is the difference of Mohamad and Jesus.

Bavafa

Bavafa   Free copy of all e-mails, posts and voice conversation at NSA depository, no sign up is required and it won't cost you a dime only your freedom. Mehrdad

So, are we here to judge between Christ and Mohammad or the action of their followers?

Mehrdad

daryoosh10

Darius Pourshasb

No, I am not judging either Christ or Mohammad, I am strictly making an observation in fact that although Christians and Moslems both have been guilty of murder and violence, you can talk down to the Christians that if they are doing it for Christ it is not something that he would have tolerated, but on the other hand Mohammad would and did in fact participate in blood letting alongside his followers . It is a historic fact that Mohammad used God's name to kill his enemies, but Christ never did and would never have contemplated it.

DavidRamezani

DavidRamezani David Ramezani

Mehrdad,

First and for most I am living in my own country. United States is my adopted country. If I go back to Iran, I most probably would end up in Evin prison, tortured, raped and eventually cut my head off as terrorist Islamic Republic does which anyone opposing them. However, with the love you have towards the Palestinians, I am sure they would treat you very kindly and you would be their hero. So you would be very much welcomed in Palestine. I think it makes more sense for you to move to Palestine and help them out rather than for me to move to Iran since I will not be welcomed by Islamic Republic.

With respect to the followers of Jesus Christ compare to the followers of Mohammad, I must say that any action which is carried out by the followers of Jesus and it deviates from the original teachings of Jesus Christ, it is considered unchristian. However, the atrocities and mayhem and genocides which are carried out by Moslems around the world and it is still continue as I am writing these words, it is exactly what Mohammad did and today’s criminal actions around the world is mimicked from Mohammad’s action about 1400 years ago.

So, Mohammad set the precedence for all the killings that is committed by Moslems. Jesus Christ never set any precedence for any killings which means any killings done by any Christian in the name of Jesus Christ, is considered illegitimate.

I guess you agree with the rest of my points.

Thanks for your input.

David

Bavafa

Bavafa   Free copy of all e-mails, posts and voice conversation at NSA depository, no sign up is required and it won't cost you a dime only your freedom. Mehrdad

David Jaan,
I should be grateful, at least you did not claim that the followers of Jesus are just as peaceful as Jesus himself.

Anyway, I agree with the reset of your point just as I agree with the points you made here which seems to be:

مرگ برا همسایه خوبه

I just like to reiterate one point that I tried to make in my first response which seem to flew by you unnoticed and that is that I don’t love or hate Palestinians/Israelis only I respect humanity and despise barbaric behavior.

Good luck
Mehrdad

nickwho

nickwho

Dear Mehrdad,
I beg to differ from the statement you just made. I have responded multiple times in Iranian.com about the palestinian Israeli issues. You, in every word you have written in response to me or anyone else have always taken the side of the Palestinians and Hamas. You have condemned Israel multiple times and continue on that path. Not once have I seen you admit that the Palestinain agression and terrorist activity can be the cause of not achieving peace. Spain took back their land from the moslems and is a Christian country, Israel was given this land BY THE UN and its members to retake land taken from them and sending Jews in exile for hundreds of years. Why is Israel an occupier and has no right to this land? They have accepted 2 million arabs into their poplulation as citizens with full rights. But they can not accept being thrown into the sea and getting murdered as a solution. When these so called peace loving palestinians accept Israel's right to exist, there will be peace. You just have to take your hatred for the jews out of this and you will see that Israel is not the agressor but the victim. The Jews just want to live in peace. What they are doing to these poor palestinians is because of the policy of hatred and terrorism that their leadership have installed in gaza. I don't think any Israeli you talk to would say they want to genoside the Arabs in gaza, but every Arab in Gaza want the complete destruction of Israel. From day one of Israels existance until today.

Bavafa

Bavafa   Free copy of all e-mails, posts and voice conversation at NSA depository, no sign up is required and it won't cost you a dime only your freedom. Mehrdad

Dear Nick,
You are certainly entitled to your opinion but that does not make it facts. You might not have seen my condemnation of Palestinians aggression, but that does not prove the lack of it. When three Israeli teenagers were murdered, I was the first one to condemn that here on IC. But I am not here intending to keep scores of who/what/where.

But, just in case you have not read many of my posts that I have express Israel’s right to exist and live in peace within the legally recognized boarders of Israel which is based on 1967, hear it now please, loud and clear. I believe last time I sent you a google link for what is recognized as Israel and what is recognized as occupied land but that might not have seen that link. Look it up, would you?

I also condemn its occupation of what is legally recognized as occupied land, for 47 years now and the inhuman and fascist-like treatment of Palestinians. And as far as I know, vast majority of Palestinians, including Hamas recently, has agreed and accepted and willing to have peace with Israel within 1967 boarders. The Arab league passed a resolution many years ago to accept and normalize relationship with Israel if it was willing to accept 1967 as boarders, but they refused.

I am not going to comment on charges of terrorism Israel as a victim , etc as any person with a bit of common sense can see beyond rhetoric and see who is the real terrorist or the victim here. I suspect you and I won’t be able to come to a set of standards that defines terrorism or terrorist.

Mehrdad

NiloufarParsi

Niloufar Parsi http://niloufarparsi.wordpress.com

the eyes of some Iranian-Americans such as the blog's author appear to be shut.

Garbage such as "the number one priority should be how to liberate Iran from the shackles of the terrorist Islamic Republic--especially since Iran has become another Palestine, occupied by Mullah’s Islamic Republic for the past 35 years." belongs to the fat, under-educated belly of stupid Americans.

What the author really means is that the sick sycophants of western imperialism and israeli apartheid show their true colours at times like these, when they can turn their cold, selfish eyes away from the genocide taking place in front of our very eyes, and harp on about an alleged 'violence' within Islam when it is the Jews and Christians that are mimicking Nazi Germany today.

Way to go 'democracy' leeches from the 'land of the free'!

Free of what? Reason? Conscience? Morality?

As the Farsi saying goes: terr zadi!

BehrouzBahmani

Behrouz Bahmani We're just trying to [change] the system / But it's hard from a distance / So it's time for a new better way

Unfortunately if you got your wish, and this site was under the control of this Iran (you sound like you approve of), you probably wouldn't be allowed to participate in this conversation Nilou-jan. We would be required to smile politely at your "enthusiasm", and then ask you to go bring us some tea, and to let us know when the nice lunch you were preparing for us, is ready, and to leave these matters to the menfolk.

I mean, that is after all the Iran that you apparently want, right? Or, is there even any slightest room for your critique of Iran today?

No, forget the US and its evil intentions for a minute. Just look at Iran and tell me it's perfect as it is.

Because although you keep bringing it up, I don't think anyone really cares about the US right now. We care about Iran. And your rapidly disappearing right to express yourself. Because you can only say what you say, precisely because you are outside of Iran.

BehrouzBahmani

Behrouz Bahmani We're just trying to [change] the system / But it's hard from a distance / So it's time for a new better way

Thank YOU!

You clearly get it.

Also consider that since Cyrus gave the jews back their homeland when he conquered babylon, he re-established their right to this region. Furthermore his action after consideration of the facts at that time, which are far more accurate than the eons or claims and counter claims that this region is Palestine or not, is the de-facto proof that this is Israel and it belongs to the Jews.

I'm not saying that the Palestinians should be removed, but I am saying they need to give up their unreasonable claim to this area and require all Jews to leave. As Hamas's mission requires. They must also give up the constant temptation of using military force and violence as their tool.

No people have EVER achieved liberation using force. Hamas is the biggest problem that the Palestinian people have now.

Just as the Israeli government is the biggest problem the people of Israel have now.

Just as the US government is the biggest problem the American people have now.

And of course, just as the Iranian government is the biggest problem the people of Iran (and the world) have now.

AminP

AminP

I don't think it is a matter of liking or hating a group of people. You are either for human rights or you are not. Human rights do not say anything about religion or ethnicity.

It is quite simple. I hate Israeli baby-killers as much as I hate Palestinian baby-killers or Iranian baby-killers or ISIS baby-killers or ...

Just because one group does it, it does not justify another group to do it. All these TV News, Blogs, Movies, Posts justifying a horrible act does not make it right. That's the definition of hypocrisy.

As a human being, I am outraged about what ISIS is doing the same goes to Syria and of course Gaza. I don't see any clean hands from Israel, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Iran, and ...

Just my 2 cents.

NiloufarParsi

Niloufar Parsi http://niloufarparsi.wordpress.com

you forgot the dirtiest hands of all: USA's.

And no they are not the same. Putting Iran in the same category as Israel, Saudi Arabia and ISIS is simply immoral.

Bryan7

Bryan

من به عنوان یک ایرانی آمریکای به مترقی بازی, ای فون , بنز , هوکا , ادا و اصول , فخر فروختن , دوبی , عمارت ایر , عرق خوردن خیلی علاقه دارم . عاشق این هستم تا تابستانها به ایران روم , تا با دخترهای ایرانی بگردم . من هیچ علاقه ای به فرهنگ آریائی ایرانی , فرهنگ ١٤٠٠٠ ساله ایرانی و تمامیت ارزی ایران ندارم. دیروز جنبش سبز مد بود , دنبال آنها بودم . امروز غزه مد است , دنبال آنانم . از کنسرت و افتر پارتی هم خوشم میاید .

daryoosh10

Darius Pourshasb

"That is why we can see some similarities between Christianity and Shea Islam. For example both these two religions are Messianic faiths, meaning that they both believe there is a Messiah (a religious savior) who will return to save the mankind from evil." Your quote above is well put, however I believe the Shia islam and Christianity borrowed from the religion of Zarthosht with regards to the Messiah, rather than Shia islam borrowing from Christianity

alimostofi

Ali Mostofi Astrology, Current Affairs. Princeton Class of 1981. Iranian.com member since 2005 http://iranian.com/main/member/alimostofi.html http://iranian.com/mostofi.html

The Koran is a bad copy of thoughts and ideas, that Salman Parsi put together, after reading the great collection in Cteisphon, the capital of Sassanian Empire, opposite present day Baghadad. He then burnt every single parchment or book and work of art in Iran. Some of our ancient peaceful thoughts got handed down or had found their way in other cultures.

These were later used by many to discover Iran. Much of it was done in the Mongol times and that is why we have our identity. Most of Iranian spiritualism was reborn in Hafez because of the Mongols.

So it is Herodotus, The Monguls and whatever the Parsis of India and the Zoroastrians in Iran would dare to mention, that has kept the old flames alive. But it is not all lost.

BehrouzBahmani

Behrouz Bahmani We're just trying to [change] the system / But it's hard from a distance / So it's time for a new better way

Hi, Are you the same Ramezani the author of the Atlanta Snapshots handout about the Iranian demographic profile? It's awesome. If you are, can you email me at: bozkuhi@gmail.com

Thanks.