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Crisis in Syria is the Iran-Iraq war – All Over Again!

The more things change, the more they stay the same. Once again in the Middle East, we have a ‘war’ that was started through secret back room meetings in distant lands… to destabilize a ‘suddenly’ unpopular regime, financed by Saudi and Persian Gulf Arab states… using proxy warriors…leading to a stalemate while literally millions of innocent victims caught up in the middle…dead or homeless.

 

Sounds familiar?

 

In a period of 30 months, the death toll in Syria is now close to 130,000 and there are over 2 million refugees scattered all over Turkey, Lebanon and Jordan! This is right on track with the death toll from the Iran-Iraq war of over 500,000 over 100 months of battle in the 80’s.

And who is financing Anti-Assad / Islamist / Al Qaeda warriors in Syria? Yes, Saudi Arabia, Qatar …and indirectly the US, Britain!

 

Sound Familiar? Who was financing Saddam Hussein? Yep, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait …and indirectly the U.S. and Britain.

 

And who was on the Side of Iran during the Iran-Iraq war? Syria’s Assad regime, no less. And who is on the side of Syria’s Assad regime today? Iran’s Mullahs, no less.

Hey, it’s the Iran-Iraq war all over again.  

 

In Syria, we have indiscriminate bombing of civilian targets – from both sides. We have Chemical weapons as a tool of war. In fact there have been over 1400 deaths reported due to the use of Chemical Weapons. And who were the venerable suppliers of chemical weapons in Syria??? Europeans of course!! Sound familiar?

 

Yep, same shit, different day!

 

Look at this comparison: It was called, Project 922. This was the codename Saddam Hussein had for an extensive program with support and financing by Europeans. German firms such as Karl Kolb helped build Iraqi chemical weapons facilities such as laboratories, bunkers, an administrative building, and first production buildings in the early 1980s under the cover of a pesticide plant. Other German firms sent 1,027 tons of precursors of mustard gas, sarin, tabun, and tear gasses in all. This work allowed Iraq to produce 150 tons of mustard agent and 60 tons of Tabun in 1983 and 1984 respectively, continuing throughout the decade. All told, 52% of Iraq's international chemical weapon equipment was of European origin. One of the contributions was a £14m chlorine plant known as "Falluja 2", built by Uhde Ltd, a UK subsidiary of a German company; the plant was given financial guarantees by the UK's Export Credits Guarantee Department despite official UK recognition of a "strong possibility" the plant would be used to make mustard gas. The guarantees led to UK government payment of £300,000 to Uhde in 1990.

 

France also provided glass-lined reactors, tanks, vessels, and columns used for the production of chemical weapons. Around 21% of Iraq’s international chemical weapon equipment was French. 75,000 shells and rockets designed for chemical weapon use also came from Italy. About 100 tons of mustard gas also came from Brazil. The United States exported $500 million of dual use exports to Iraq that were approved by the Commerce Department. Among them were advanced computers, some of which were used in Iraq’s nuclear program. Austria also provided heat exchangers, tanks, condensers, and columns for the Iraqi chemical weapons infrastructure

 

According to Iraq itself, it consumed almost 19,500 chemical bombs, over 54,000 chemical artillery shells and 27,000 short-range chemical rockets between 1983 and 1988. Iraq declared it consumed about 1,800 tons of mustard gas, 140 tons of Tabun, and over 600 tons of Sarin.

 

Casualty counts from Chemical Weapons used in the Iran-Iraq war from 1983 through 1988 are very hard to determine (precisely), but easily exceeded 100,000. To be fair, Syria’s casualty count from Chemicals appears to be significant, but perhaps one order of magnitude less for an equivalent time period of war.

 

And if you don’t think the Syrian war was premeditated, consider U.S. General Wesley Clark’s public admission that the U.S. had already made the decision to invade Syria as early as 2001. Additionally, more damning evidence of the West’s intention to precipitate a war in Syria was revealed in an explosive report released by the UK’s Daily Mail on January 2013. Here’s a snippet from a report, which was entitled, U.S. ‘backed plan to launch chemical weapon attack on Syria and blame it on Assad’s regime’. A report released on Monday contains an email exchange between two senior officials at British-based contractor Britam, where a scheme ‘approved by Washington’ is outlined explaining that Qatar would fund rebel forces in Syria to use chemical weapons.

 

Here’s the text of the email, according to the report:

‘Phil… We’ve got a new offer. It’s about Syria again. Qataris propose an attractive deal and swear that the idea is approved by Washington.

‘We’ll have to deliver a CW to Homs, a Soviet origin g-shell from Libya similar to those that Assad should have. ‘They want us to deploy our Ukrainian personnel that should speak Russian and make a video record.’

 

And then contrast this with Jimmy Carter’s National Security Advisor, Zbigniew Brezinski’s secret meeting in Jordan in August 1980 with senior officials of Saddam Hussein’s military to prepare for an attack on Iran.  And Saddam Hussein’s own direct meeting with Saudi royals, that same month (August 1980), to be given direct support and financing for an invasion of Iran. And today, not long after the war itself, all the facts have emerged about who precipitated and financed this brutal war.

 

And, once again a major war in the Middle East – in Syria now - with literally hundreds of thousands of deaths, millions of homeless refugees, has been precipitated and financed by the West and its Arab allies – with no real outcome to show for it.

 

It’s the Iran-Iraq war again.

 

The only words that I can think of to describe all this is simply sheer disgust. How are we making the world a better place, by putting millions of children and families in refugee camps, by killing so many innocent by standers? Will these children grow up to be well adjusted, peaceful and loving citizens of planet earth? Or will we have a new generation of Arabs, like countless Palestinian children, who readily volunteer to carry explosive belts into crowded streets to become suicide bombers? Repeat: there are no shortages of volunteers for suicide bombings in the Middle East. This is the new generation being brought up in the Middle East. How can this be good for the West?

 

The long-term negative effects of these ruthless policies cannot be overestimated.

And does the west truly believe that in this age of mass communication and the internet that somehow their involvement in these dirty and disgusting schemes can somehow be swept under the carpet? Yes, scum bag Assad will eventually be toppled, but who will take his place when we have literally bred 2 million Arabs who have witnessed tragedies beyond everyone’s wildest imagination who will be burdened with unspeakable hatred towards the West. This is not good, in the long-run.

 

What if they too, one day, lead new governments in the middle-east with rogue nuclear programs and missiles that can carry warheads to Europe? Was there no lesson at all out of the Iran-Iraq war? Why are the same failed policies being pursued over and over again?

Balatarin

ayatoilet1 @ayatoilet17

B.S. from Argooz U., M.S. from Massachosetts I.T. PhD from Oxfed U; Post Doc @ Kharvard U; Big Shot @ Sheikh Mir Hassan Bank. Plays for a band: Ayatoilet & the Shits. The Supreme Dr. Ayatoilet Kh Kh Kh! www.ayatoilet.com

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amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy I Love Waterfalls and Find One of the most humorous things in the world; is the notion that Americans are a greater force for good & more civilized than Nazi's, Mullahs and Communists.

The Syria Policy is a Quagmire, it is more similar to the long lasting civil war in Lebanon, based on religious differences, than Iran/Iraq war.

marhoumKharmagas

marhoum Kharmagas

"Was there no lesson at all out of the Iran-Iraq war? Why are the same failed policies being pursued over and over again?"

ayat, hopefully there has been some lessons learned, and Sahimi's prediction is correct:

http://www.imenews.com/articles_show.php?gid=217


مقاله کنونی دارای دو هدف و تشریح آنها است: اول، نگارنده معتقد است که تغییر "ناگهانی" سیاست آمریکا راهبردی است، و نه‌ تاکتیکی. دوم، نگارنده معتقد است که نیرو‌های ملی‌ و دموکراتیک ایران میتوانند، و باید، از این تغییر راهبردی آمریکا استفاده بهینه کرده، و برای رسیدن به هدف خود، که همانا یک حکومت دموکراتیک در ایران است، بیشترین بهره را ببرند

Teerdaad

Teerdaad

The sadistic dictator of Syria violnetly crushed peaceful protests by moderate secular groups demanding free elections after 40 years of Assad family rule (what a republic!) in 2011 thus opening the gates of hell. Now his country is a rubble, under military occupation of Iranian mullah's Quds force and Iran's puppet militia Hezbollah. On the other hand moderate opposition has been pushed aside by violent extremists whose message of fighting fire by fire is gaining ground by despetate youth in Syria. Meanwhile, as usual, Daii jaan Napoleon theorists blame every problem on "secret plans" by Americans and the EU, ignoring the internal and long developing fissures within the nations of the region ruled by bunch of thugish cruel dictatorships, both religious and secular types.

ayatoilet17

ayatoilet1 B.S. from Argooz U., M.S. from Massachosetts I.T. PhD from Oxfed U; Post Doc @ Kharvard U; Big Shot @ Sheikh Mir Hassan Bank. Plays for a band: Ayatoilet & the Shits. The Supreme Dr. Ayatoilet Kh Kh Kh! www.ayatoilet.com

I don't like this Dai Jan Napoleon label when you know everything that has been stated in the blog is absolutely factual.

Here is what I find strange: That Saudi Arabia and Qatar would support pro-democracy forces anywhere; and more over that somehow a quest for freedom in Syria suddenly (after 4o years of Brutal Assad rule) suddenly deserved the support and attention of the west...when for example Aliev's regime in Azerbaijan or the bloodthirsty dictator in Equatorial Guinea or indeed the people in Saudi Arabia, Qatar Bahrain...etc somehow do not deserve equal consideration for freedom and democracy.

No, the situation in Syria is not about, nor ever was about helping moderate secular groups take power and bring democracy to Syria. There obviously is much more going on. I am sorry but that is the truth, whether you accept it or not.

farhangpooya

farhangpooya In all situations, in or outside power, social problems require social solutions (در همه شرايط، در حاكميت و يا خارج از حاكميت، مشكلات اجتماعى راه حل هاى اجتماعى طلب مى كنند)

Thank you Aya
Very good analysis.
I am very impressed.
We must prevent this situation from happening in Iran.
The Neo Cons, the Israeli lobbies Europe, the Arab Sheikhs of GCC countries all working very hard to create the same situation in Iran.
We must speak with one voice trying to stop this disaster from happening. They have powerful media at their disposal and they are employing Iranian " intellectuals!" in their propaganda campaign.
We need to form some kind of democratic organisation so we can speak with one voice and must not leave it for too late.

Zendanian

Zendanian An injury to one is an injury to all.

Ayati jan Teerdad has some very valid points, regardless of what labels he choses to use. Saudi Arabia & Qatar support only the forced that are close to their own conservative & ultra reactionary politics.
Who are Saudis supporting in Bahrain? Not the democratic movement of Bahrain, but the reactionary rulers.
The only forces Saudis have supported in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Tunisia, Egypt,...are either the reactionary Muslim movements or the army.
There's lots of foreign intervention in Syria, but the internal dynamics were the cause of its civil war.
There are also many conspiracies going on in our region, but conspiracy theory remains a poor & unacceptable substitute for concrete analysis of the concrete situation. Cheers

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy I Love Waterfalls and Find One of the most humorous things in the world; is the notion that Americans are a greater force for good & more civilized than Nazi's, Mullahs and Communists.

Syria is a US/UK lead Quagmire. Not owning this truth and playing it off on their Nowkars is "Western Democratic Systems Diplomacy". The Saudi's and the other US GCC Dictatorships are mis represented as if they can act independently when they are carrying out exactly what they are told to do, this was the same case in the Iraq/Iran war. It is amazing to any educated person that Iranians were and in some cases are still so stupid as to believe in the UK/BP serving Dictatorial PM "Mossadegh". We have a Politician who used the Nationalism and Democracy Card to deceive Iranians as his actions were the opposite of democracy and nationalism and yet how few can grasp how deceived they were and are today?

Zendanian

Zendanian An injury to one is an injury to all.

Dr. Moahamad Mosadegh (RIP) even in his worst days, was a head & a shoulder above all obtuse puny monarchists, including the Zahedi clowns, both father & son.

Ashianeh

Ashianeh Raise your words, not your voice It is rain that grows flowers, not thunder. Rumi

A true absurd theatre!

ayatoilet17

ayatoilet1 B.S. from Argooz U., M.S. from Massachosetts I.T. PhD from Oxfed U; Post Doc @ Kharvard U; Big Shot @ Sheikh Mir Hassan Bank. Plays for a band: Ayatoilet & the Shits. The Supreme Dr. Ayatoilet Kh Kh Kh! www.ayatoilet.com

Thank you Zendanian-Jan! Great comments. Sad but true.

Zendanian

Zendanian An injury to one is an injury to all.

Ayati jan, Syrian civil war was really initiated when Assad opened up fire on peaceful demonstrators, turning a perfectly non-violent political reform movement (at that point they weren't even asking for his removal, just free elections & power sharing) into a full scale bloody civil war. Of course when you have those ultra-reactionary Saudis in the hood, it was only a matter of time before they put their filthy hands in Syrian people's affairs and degenerated the whole anti- Assad, anti-Ba'ath freedom movement.

On the other hand Iraq's invasion of Iran was America's pay back to mullahs for that embassy fiasco, and once it was started practically everybody in the world and their mothers got a piece of the action, selling armaments to both sides.

A distinctive feature of the Syrian Civil War has been the Saudis' intervention in there & how for a short while they actually thought they could set up another Saudi dominated government in there. But Western powers are still very allergic to the notion of another Al-Qaeda state, this one by the Mediterranean!
Hence all this back door dealing and attempts to balance out the contending forces fighting in there.
Meanwhile as you've brilliantly written in here, another generation of debased youth are growing up in refugee camps, with no future to look forward to, but a lot of motivation for revenge, violence and irrationality.

Per your last query: "Why are the same failed policies being pursued over and over again?" As Mehrdad point out below, it could be summed up in one word: COLONIALISM.

Bavafa

Bavafa   'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory  Mehrdad

The era of colonization of other nations/people is far from over, it only has taken a new shape. But we also need not to forget our own shortcomings and responsibility to collaborate with these monsters. Without our dictators in place to carry out their wishes, they might not be able to do as much evil.

Mehrdad

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy I Love Waterfalls and Find One of the most humorous things in the world; is the notion that Americans are a greater force for good & more civilized than Nazi's, Mullahs and Communists.

Betraying the late shah was neo-colonialism 101. Iran was Free and Independent for too long, giving Iranians their greatest era of Peace, Progress and Human Rights, due to the wisdom and nature of the King. All In the name of human rights and democracy since, their were not enough dumb mullahs from the right they needed equally stupid individuals from the left side of society also. Just the same as it is in Syria. Betraying the Late Shah, as Western Media and the enemies of Iran misrepresenting him as a US/UK stooge and a Dictator, was a catastrophe for Iranians. Iranians only have themselves to blame for the success of the wests tactics on Iranians.