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Shirzadegan

Siavash

LAST TANGO IN TEHRAN

In a loving memory of our Shahanshah Aryamehr whose none existence was equal to destruction of Iran.



GOAL : RESTORING MONARCHY

HoshangTarehgol5

Hoshang Tarehgol An injury to one is an injury to all.

Were they using butter or margarine in this last tango?

Shirzadegan

Siavash

LAST TANGO is a trade mark for any major social or political move. it is signature used by many cultures and many countries to express importance of the event. Here is some of those lists:

Last tango in Lavenham

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0637204/

Last tango in Brooklyn

http://www.amazon.com/Last-Tango-Brooklyn-Kirk-Douglas/dp/0446516953

Last tango in Croydon

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1703082/

Last tango in Moscow

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Tango_in_Moscow

Last tango in London

http://www.lyricsmania.com/last_tango_in_london_lyrics_mud.html

Last tang in Las Vegas

http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/last-tango-in-vegas-fear-and-loathing-in-the-near-room-19780504

Last Tango in Dallas

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0772431/

Last tango in Paris

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070849/

Last tango in croydon

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1703082/

Last tango in Halifax

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01p1q6x

The list goes on. You may find some more of this international trade mark.

P.Galenous

P_J. An Iranian!

BOTH (LOL)

NiloufarParsi

Niloufar Parsi

Monarchy or theocracy or republican or democracy, in the end if there are no systems for accountability and no recourse to justice, it is going to fail the people.

Personality is what makes a leader distinctive, not ideology. Outside of routine administration, it is in those moments of crises that the value of personality exposes itself. Obama is weak yet charming. Ineffective in crises. Putin is determined and courageous as well as strategic. Palin and Bush are plain stupid while Cheyney and Rumsfeld and NetanyaWho are snakes on acid. Who among this list can claim to have had some real success?

The Pahlavis have too much baggage, and next in line is just not in the required category. Why not go for a new dynasty? This would fit Iranian history better. When was an ousted dynasty rehabilitated successfully before?

P.Galenous

P_J. An Iranian!

Could NOT agree with you more! Not only they have too much baggage, but look how this father, Adolph Reza, and son, the treasonous M R Pahlavi, had come to power...Not by popular demand and uprising but by foreign organized coup!

NiloufarParsi

Niloufar Parsi

and they are hoping for the same thing again now! hard to understand...

HoshangTarehgol5

Hoshang Tarehgol An injury to one is an injury to all.

An unstable, weak and undemocratic society depends on charismatic and "strong" personality, while a stable, strong and democratic society is based on its established institutions and how the governments and citizens rights and responsibilities have been established and institutionalized.

Iran has had its fare share of charismatic and "strong" leaders. It's time to once and for all snap out of our traditional "Cult of Personality" culture and start the difficult task of institutionalizing a democratic, participatory political culture in our land. We are all leaders.

Early 21 century is no time for a tired rehashing of bankrupt, undemocratic old ideas and dogmas. A proliferation of democratic institutions and ideas is what is needed.

ArvandRud

Arvand Rud Arvand Rud is the proper name of the "Shatt al Arab". Let's just say I would never sell out Iran to the mullahs or the communists.

Niloufar, An ousted dynasty was brought back in your own England and Spain after Franco.

Again, focusing our attention on foreign governments' treatment of their own citizens is a strategy used by all governments to distract from problems at home.

If you want reform, as you have said numerous times, why would you label the millions of 2009 ''reformist'' protesters as ''agents of the west'' and ''a few sore losers from the middle and upper-classes?

Like it or not Reza Pahlavi is the legitimate heir to the Takhte Kavuus.

The only ''bagagge'' the Pahlavis have is being the modernizers of Iran and champions of it's 2,500 year history.

Reza Pahlavi has more support than any other Iranian political figure today. Even if it is only 30-50% of the population in Iran that openly support him and call pre-revolutionary Iran as ''the golden age''.

In an open and free referendum in a liberated Iran, Reza Pahlavi would easily defeat any other single candidate.

Note that his popularity is DESPITE the mullahs 35 years of anti-shah propaganda, as well as in the west, where they absolutely fear an independent, nationalist leader in an oil rich country such as Iran.

The west prefers a broken Iran run by religious extremists. Then they can make a killing from: arms sales, shipping insurance, oil profits for the oil companies, and an Iran with a huge ''brain drain'' where 200,000 of the most brilliant young Iranians escape the clutches of the mullahs every year, and much more.

That's why the west brought that akhoond to power in the first place. It worked out perfectly for the heads of western oil and defense corporations and owners of private central banks.

If Iran had continued it's economic trajectory under the shah, we would have made Japan look like a third world country by the 1990's. This is common knowledge in Iran.

NiloufarParsi

Niloufar Parsi

"Niloufar, An ousted dynasty was brought back in your own England and Spain after Franco.

Again, focusing our attention on foreign governments' treatment of their own c itizens is a strategy used by all governments to distract from problems at home."

Remembering that we were discussing Iran, I don't know whether you can see how your second paragraph destroys the first para. But it's funny :)

ArvandRud

Arvand Rud Arvand Rud is the proper name of the "Shatt al Arab". Let's just say I would never sell out Iran to the mullahs or the communists.

Niloufar, I was answering your question, ''where has an ousted monarchy successfully been restored before?''

But I'm happy to have made you laugh. Akhoond adoration must be a tedious job....with the small bit of change it pays. lol

NiloufarParsi

Niloufar Parsi

Arvand,

You can have him for all I care. I was just questioning your chances with someone who was rumoured to be involved with drugs trade to fund operations. A bit like the CIA host.

I have seen him in person. Was a forgettable moment.

But if the people of Iran want him, then so be it. I don't get why they would, and you can put it down to my 'paid-agentness' if you must, but the man has no personality or charisma. That's all I'm saying. And the institution is not tied to the Pahlavis. But this is all close to your heart and I mean no harm. Just discussing.

ArvandRud

Arvand Rud Arvand Rud is the proper name of the "Shatt al Arab". Let's just say I would never sell out Iran to the mullahs or the communists.

Niloo, I see anti-shah propaganda has done wonders on the akhoond parastan.

Just remember what is stamped behind every mullahs beard. ''Made in Britain''.

You know that old joke. Since you're in the laughing mood.

NiloufarParsi

Niloufar Parsi

Arvand, I will share with you a little secret of mine: One of the prince's closest supporters who was an ambitious and tireless campaigner was for some years dating a cousin of mine. They are not together now, but they are good friends still. I can tell you that the drugs trade 'allegation' is true, at least according to my cousin.

ArvandRud

Arvand Rud Arvand Rud is the proper name of the "Shatt al Arab". Let's just say I would never sell out Iran to the mullahs or the communists.

Are you sure you aren't referring to Sepah's smuggling of heroin and opium into Iran from Afghanistan?

For your comment on his somehow being involved in the drug trade; We both know how Iranians gossip. We are famous for this. I'm not saying you're lying but it doesn't make any sense to me.

Reza Pahlavi has tens of millions of dollars, including various investments. He doesn't need to sell dope to make ends meet.

He has also been raised in very strict environment, specifically trained to be the ruler of Iran. Just going by his past record. He never engages in any of the ''tabloid'' making behavior the British royal family, for example, is famous for. No prostitutes. No drug addiction ( unlike his poor brother and sister). No violent behavior or rudeness. ( not like me. Rud is my middle name...or last name. lol)

I just don't see the usual environmental or situational factors one would expect surrounding a person who would engage in this type of behavior.

Sepah on the other hand? Now that would be an incredible article. '' The Role of Sepah in Iran's Illicit Drugs Trade- And other Black Market Activities''. Thats one article I'd like to see you write.

Repeat after me; ''Down with the mullah mafia!'' ( just to see if your loyalties lie with the people or that akhoond) lol.

Shirzadegan

Siavash

Lovely song. It shake the heart of any patriotic Iranians.




PAYANDEH IRAN

ArvandRud

Arvand Rud Arvand Rud is the proper name of the "Shatt al Arab". Let's just say I would never sell out Iran to the mullahs or the communists.

Javid Iran doostan. Great video Siavash joon.

HoshangTarehgol5

Hoshang Tarehgol An injury to one is an injury to all.

نقش برجسته شاه وفرح،دربقدرت رساندن آخوندها



Shirzadegan

Siavash

Thanks for the video.
Seems we have already discussed about 2 different "functions of Islam in the politic" in our previous comment. Repetition of the comment decrease the degree of it's credibility.
Anyway, Islam played 2 different roles during shah daysL

A. Islam was used by establishment as a part of global democracy to protect the social order of the "Free world" versus communist block. It was aimed to stop the expansion of Soviet Union and socialist idea in the region. "Green Belt policy". Iran's state radio was chanting very frequently :

در مملکتی که ندای الله و اکبر به گوش میرسد کمونیسم جایی ندارد

B. Islam was used by oppositions as a form of radical and revolutionary to end the monarchy system. This form of radical Islam caused 35 years misery and starvation of our people.

It seems confusion comes when someone is not able to see the "duality of Islamic application".

HoshangTarehgol5

Hoshang Tarehgol An injury to one is an injury to all.

There's no confusion whatsoever about how the coup regime of monarchy gave a free hand to reactionary Shia clergy & in the process became the incubator of Islamic Republic of Hell.

Shirzadegan

Siavash

Please take a look at the guy whom you posted his video above. Please compare that idiot with the one I posted above from our singer Shahkar Beneshpajoh.
Do you see the differences ? One is idiot who supported mullahs to reach power in Iran and destroy our country, the other one is a singer who appears with stylish suit that convey the feeling of "Sophistication" "neatness" and "Class".
Class, sophistication and neatness is the essence of Monarchy. You can't find it in Socialist countries, nor in barbaric law of Sharia.
I really doubt it you understand what I am talking about.
But wait a minute, this comment is in public forum and others with Unbiased and rational mindset can see what I am trying to say. I trust people's judgement.

Shirzadegan

Siavash

Confusion about "Duality of Islamic application".
The radical Islam that your comrade Goleshorkhi referred to as "Islam e Rasteen" belonged to Shariatie, Mola hossaine, mola Ali, Mola Khameini, Mola Khomeini and mola Rafsanjani is different with Islam that our shahanshah believed and was commonly practiced in Iran.
The one that your comrade Goleshorkhi and Shariati were talking about caused the misery of our nation for 35 years. I am surprised you don't see the differences.

HoshangTarehgol5

Hoshang Tarehgol An injury to one is an injury to all.

Monarchy in Iran had a singular devotion to repression & suppression of Iranian people. It crushed all opponents & independent institutions, except mullahs & their institutions & mullahs paid back monarchy handsomely. Are you still confused about why monarchy was an incubator of Islamic Republic of Hell?

Shirzadegan

Siavash

Monarchy in Iran had a singular devotion to repression & suppression of black and red reactionary who were against happiness of Iranian people. It crushed all opponents of Iran people including mullahs in 15 khordad 1342. I have already posted an article regarding to what happened in that day. It was from historical document. No need to repeat it again. It sounds ridiculous. According to Shia cleric 332 mullahs were killed in one day. No taxi was giving ride to any mullahs in that day. Needless to say that Khameini, ali geda, was detained frequently by S.A.V.A.K. He spent time in Mashhad prison. You didn't even bother to listen all the way to the video that you posted because at the end the video says that Dr. Naser was attending in one of Shariati lecture and suddenly Shariati started to say that Imam Hossain was like Che Guevara in the middle east. Do you remember that idiot in the court said the same thing. ? Did shah supported that idiot and his "Islam Rasteen" ? Of course, NOT.
Did shah or Dr. Nasser approved of Shariati view of Islam ?
Of course NOT because Nasser said to the other guy let's leave the mosque. Please listen carefully to the video you posted all the way to the end. I am sure you didn't bother to listen throughly to the video, as usual.
Yes, there was duality about Islam. The establishment supported the aspect of Erfani as Ganji said, not "revolutionary form" as Shariatie, Goleshorkhi, Rafsanjani , khomeini were saying. Even Goleshorkhi who didn't have very high I.Q realized there were 2 applications in Islam. How come you're still confused about it ?
Anyway, I heard that Canada has a good insurance coverage. I am sure you will be more objective once you got over your biases in the course of therapy.

HoshangTarehgol5

Hoshang Tarehgol An injury to one is an injury to all.

Cult of Personality embodied in devotion to a clown prince that hasn't had a job all his life is indeed qualified as an infantile disorder in need of therapy!
Repression & suppression of Iranian people was one of the main causes for crisis of legitimacy for monarchy in 1979. Monarchists still suffer from lack of legitimacy, hence they have zero future in Iran, but you always have Facebook, enjoy it!

Shirzadegan

Siavash

"...hasn't had a job ...." ? wow....
None of these commentators on this site dare to reveal their identities. Crown Reza Pahlavi is the only one with clear political agenda speaks bravely in public against the most suppressive fascist mentality regime in the world. Don't you wanna appreciate his work ?
The problem is that you don't live in Iran and you're naively unfamiliar with the degree of criminal mullah's brutality. You don't know how the ministry of information is operating. I am not sure you even know how criminal mullahs blow up jewish cultural center in Argentine in 1994. Seems you also unfamiliar how they assassinate their oppositions in overseas. Enjoy your relax life style in Canada, but certainly therapy is in order.

HoshangTarehgol5

Hoshang Tarehgol An injury to one is an injury to all.

Aren't you yourself using a pen name for your avatar? How could you condemn others for something that you yourself also practice?
Isn't your clown prince the one who wrote a letter to Khamenie, calling him "Seyed" & begging for a job as a civil servant in Iran? And you're lecturing us on "naive illusions on mullahs!" Sounds like your clown prince is the one in need of reality check.
You still can't refute the fact that your clown prince has not had a single meaningful occupation in his life.
So please clarify why besides a sickness called Cult of Personality would he be qualified for any public post?
As previously mentioned Cult of Personality Disorder is often diagnosed as a psychosis & usually treatable. Good luck!

Shirzadegan

Siavash

No dear. I am using my real name as I was born. I was born as Siavash and will die as Siavash. Nothing else. No reason to fabricate my name. Shirzadegan is a fictions last name.
In Tehran, During uprising of our people in 2009 , I came across a very nice man who was publishing his flyers under "Shirzadegan". He was writing on internet as well 24/7. All the sudden, I didn't hear from him. I think he was arrested. In his memory and his honor I chose that last name. BTW, once user name "Iraj khan" was asking me about my real name and my military branch information in the army during Iran Iraq war. lol. The guy real think I am that stupid.
Anyway, my point was the degree of mullah's brutality and Ministry information operation during last 35 years. Aside from their well known assassination of Farokhzad, Ovasi, Dr. Sharafkandi and his team, They assassinated about 95 of their top dissents outside of Iran. Most of these assassinations took place in Turkey back in 80's. "Sender" made by Parvis Sayyad shows a glance on ministry of information operation outside Iran.
In the light of such a religious fascist regime, crown Reza Pahlavi is speaking publicly against those monsters. Don't you wanna say "Thank you" ? If you're really someone who doesn't like mullahs in power in Iran, you should appreciate the one who is working diligently against them. That is commonly called "Culture of Appreciation".
Lack of culture of appreciation is the most defected part of persian culture. We have tendency to take everything as a granted. I pointed out to you when that young american lady wrote an article about her trip to Iran.She was kindly appreciate that I was trying to educate her.
Your biases still preventing you to see many things in our history. That is pathological and need to be addressed in an extensive therapeutics settings. The therapist will help you skillfully to get some "Insight" over your biases. That has been impaired your social judgement that you can't see many things. I am sorry to say that. For example, if you watch the above video I posted, you will see 2 stylish ladies entered the restaurant. Upon their entry, one of them took off her sunglasses in a stylish manner, that was "Sophistication". On another scene , the waitress with the bow tie was taking order on the table. That is "Class".
You never find "Class" and "Sophistication" in socialist countries, nor in countries ruled by barbaric sharia law.
You can only see "Class" and "Sophistication" in Monarchy system.

Goal: Restoring moanarchy

HoshangTarehgol5

Hoshang Tarehgol An injury to one is an injury to all.

Good for you, that's commendable.
There's still a problem with your clown prince writing a letter to Khamenie, calling him seyed (that's definitely not classy or sophisticated) & begging him for a civil servant job, so he could safely go back to Iran (such requests from #1 enemy of Iranian people is not sophisticated or classy either).
Last but not least propagation of a Cult of Personality embodied in a confused, permanently unemployed clown prince is definitely uncommendable.
Ciao.

Shirzadegan

Siavash

I love to see that letter. Please post that letter here. I know you have a "bad record" of fabricating Iran's history. I never heard of such a letter.
Anyway, below is what crown Reza Pahlavi filed the charge against Ali Geda.

"Reza Pahlavi of Iran Charges Iran's Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei of Crimes Against Humanity

REZA PAHLAVI OF IRAN CHARGES IRAN’S SUPREME LEADER ALI KAHMENEI OF CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY

Submits Report to United Nations Security Council Urging Swift Referral to
the International Criminal Court Prosecutor

Washington, DC – January 24, 2012 – Reza Pahlavi of Iran today submitted a report to the United Nations Security Council accusing the Supreme Leader of Iran, Ali Khamenei, of ordering crimes against humanity.

The filing, “Report on Crimes Against Humanity Committed in Iran on the Orders of Mr. Ali Khamenei – Supreme Leader of the Islamic Republic of Iran”, focuses on the crimes against humanity committed to suppress popular dissent after President Mahmoud Ahmadi Nejad’s fraudulent re-election in June 2009. The report contains sufficient evidence for the United Nations Security Council to take up this matter immediately and promptly refer it to the Chief Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court in The Hague.

Reza Pahlavi commented: “For the past thirty-three years, the so–called Supreme Leaders of the Islamic Republic implemented a policy of oppression against ethnic communities and religious minorities. And the historical record testifies to these facts. Today, I call on the Heads of State and Governments of member countries of the Security Council to refer these crimes to the Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court, in accordance with Article 13 (b) of the Rome Statute, for a full investigation of the crimes committed by leaders of the Islamic Republic against Iranian civilians.”

“The people of Iran have suffered far too long. Today they need help and support from the international community,” Reza Pahlavi continued. “I, therefore, urge all who cherish justice around the world to take action now and demand their respective governments - particularly those members of the United Nations Security Council - to take affirmative and immediate action on this complaint.”

Reza Pahlavi intends to file further supporting documentation regarding the abuses of Iranian citizens and will summarize these crimes in future reports."

http://www.rezapahlavi.org/details_article.php?article=565

The question is : Do you dare to do such a thing publicly. Look around yourself. Many people even afraid to reveal their names on this site, Funny part is that you don't even see crown Reza Pahlavi great work for his people. You see crown Reza Pahlavi's efforts among international community as being "unemployed". Don't you think it is embarrassing to make such a comment ? Do you know what happened in Mykonos restaurant ? How about other covert operation of ministry of information ? are you aware of those ? Unemployed......ha ha ha...
Do you have any idea what is going on beyond your prejudice and biases against Pahlavi.?
Like I said before, therapy is only solution to get over those biases. it really impaired your judgement.

P.Galenous

P_J. An Iranian!

Reza Pahlavi is a joke and by NOW even you should know that...He is a has been who NEVER was. He has as much chance, or even LESS, than the Quajar CLOWN prince or that of the tsarist Russia's Romanov clan!

Repeating same words over and over again do NOT change things or bring the dead back to life.

Let's be wise and move on...think and plan for the future...a democratic future that is void of Mullahs or CLOWN princes.

HoshangTarehgol5

Hoshang Tarehgol An injury to one is an injury to all.

P_J even these ridiculous monarchists as much as anyone else have an inalienable right to pursuit of happiness (& if repeating the same lies & propaganda makes them happy, so be it). We have an obligation to recognize & respect their rights. But such recognition doesn't translate to falling for their infantile disorders. And that is a point they always have a hard time comprehending. Cheers

P.Galenous

P_J. An Iranian!

I have no problem with your assessment, except to say that the Clown prince saga has become a lucrative source of income and a cottage industry by a group that couldn't careless or give a damn about monarchy or anything else! These scavenging charlatans have been making money right and left and have kept this nonsense alive, robbing the unexpected. Those are people that concern me and try to put some sense in their heads...the BOOBS of this world!

Have a GREAT one!

Shirzadegan

Siavash

I am still waiting my question to be answered.

P.Galenous

P_J. An Iranian!

I think I have answered your question many many times! And here we go once again; To have a crown prince, first you have to have a CROWN, which means monarchy! But the so called crown/monarchy was abolished 35 years ago, therefore you can't have a crown prince or manufacture one, except creating a pathetic, nonexistent and imaginary one and that is more of a CLOWN prince, than a real one...

Hope my response was sufficient! Bye!!!

Shirzadegan

Siavash

No, you didn't answer my question. Not even 1 time. This was my question:

Why do you talk of crown Reza Pahlavi in a derogatory term ?
Did he ever hurt you financially ? For example, you were involved in business transaction with him and he hurt you financially .?
or Did he ever hurt you romantically. For example, he dated a girl you were involved with. ?
Did he ever hurt you physically, for example, he beat a crap out of you. ?
Financially, emotionally, physically ever crown Reza Pahlavi hurt you?
The answer is NO. He left a country when he was a child. Our dear Shahzadeh never harmed anyone in all his life. God bless his heart.
So why you talk of him in a derogatory manner. ?
That is just simple question.

P.Galenous

P_J. An Iranian!

Problem is, that you don't want to hear the truth! Sop speaking nonsense, and Again you are NOT making any sense and on your customary circular logic! BYE!

Shirzadegan

Siavash

I just asked whether our dear Shahzadeh Reza Pahlavi hurt you in anyway that you talk in negative way about him ?
That is not very hard question to answer.
I am still waiting.

HoshangTarehgol5

Hoshang Tarehgol An injury to one is an injury to all.

Just out of curiosity do you think your dear shahzadeh is also into that "Last Tango" stuff? And if the answer is affirmative, do you know if they use butter or margarine?

Shirzadegan

Siavash

Again, the above comment doesn't address my question.
How funny, Try to find an "Escape goat" ?

HoshangTarehgol5

Hoshang Tarehgol An injury to one is an injury to all.

Again you fail to specify do they use butter or margarine in their Royal Last Tangos?

HoshangTarehgol5

Hoshang Tarehgol An injury to one is an injury to all.

Your clown prince can't even protect the monies his parents stole from Iranian people (remember how Ansary stole most of it & got away). The reason for such incompetency is the fact that he has never had a job in his life & is lost and clueless in the real word.
Clown prince is one of the most objective, value-free term you could describe this character.
Sycophant with a serious case of Cult of Personality disorder is also a proper description for those promoting such a clown.

Shirzadegan

Siavash

Again the above comment doesn't address my question. I repeat it again.
What crown Reza Pahlavi did to you that you speak in a derogatory term about him ? He works diligently to help Iranian people to get rid of criminal mullahs. Are you unhappy about it ?

Did you compare the video you posted with my video. ?
Do you see the differences ?
I am talking about the video of Shahkar beeneshpajooh versus that idiot Ganji.
Do you see the differences in their attire ? Once is reflection of "Trashy society" that mullahs made for Iranians and the other one is presenting Gate of Grand civilization. The same dream that our shahanshah had for Iran and Iranians.
Which one do you think Iranians will be attracted to, Bineshpajoh or Ganji ?
If you can't answer these simple questions, you're way off track my country man.
But hey, not all Iranians are like you. They have understand sense of beauty. They understand fashion. They understand "sophistication" and finally they understand meaning of "Class". Monarchy has it all. I am very sorry that you can't see it.

P.Galenous

P_J. An Iranian!

You have been going around the circle over and over again...don't you think you should stop and smell the coffee, as they say. Since, results won't change by rehashing the same subject many times over...There is NO crown...since it was abolished and the despised Pahlavi clan weren't even allowed entry to the countries of their colonial masters, i.e. Britain/USA, and the whole family were marooned.

Conclusion: No monarchy or CROWN, therefore NO CROWN prince...as simple as that, so hopefully you don't ask the same question over again.

You come across as an upstanding citizen, understandably disgusted by the Akhoonds, and their behaviors as most honorable Iranians are...but, stick to your principles and Don't join the CLOWN prices cottage industry who are made up of a small group of unscrupulous, unprincipled, and worthless liars...incapable charlatans who couldn't make the minimum wage if their lives depended on it!

Shirzadegan

Siavash

Again you didn't answer my question. I repeat again.
What our dear Shahzadeh did to you that you talk in a negative way about him ?
He tries very diligently to help Iranians to get rid of ruling criminal mullahs. Aren't you happy about it ?
Please read questions carefully and respond accordingly.
Thanks,
Siavash

P.Galenous

P_J. An Iranian!

There we go again...back to square one! It looks that nothing can fix your fixation and/or obsessive thinking. Leadership is not a personal matter or whether someone has done something good or bad. It is a matter of ability and capability that the CLOWN prince does not have and never possessed. So next time, PLEASE, try to think objectively and stop those childish arguments!

Shirzadegan

Siavash

Seems you made a mistake about the comment. I responded to your comment dated on May 18. it is located about 24 comment underneath. Please read my comment from 8 hours ago, not from May 13.
In the comment marked as 8 hours ago, I explained about Shahzadeh Reza Pahlavi credential. I also provided a like for you to know about his accomplishment and his capability.

Shirzadegan

Siavash

Both of the above comment don't say the reason of their derogatory languages of Crown Reza Pahlavi.
I asked humbly each of these gentlemen to come forward with a reasonably answer about their derogatory languages against our dear Shahzadeh, but none answered my question. They may think by not answering the question the issue will go away. Wrong. it doesn't go away. Crown Reza Pahlavi is helping Iranians to end Islamic fascist regime of criminal mullahs in Iran. So why these 2 individuals don't want crown Reza Pahlavi help our people. ?

HoshangTarehgol5

Hoshang Tarehgol An injury to one is an injury to all.

از: دفتر سیاسی شورای ملی ایران

به: دفتر آیت الله سید علی خامنه ایی، رهبر جمهوری اسلامی

صندوق پستی ۱۵۵۵ ـ۱۳۱۸۵

تاریخ ۲۳ اردیبهشت ۱۳۹۲ برابر با ۱۳ می ۲۰۱۳

جناب آیت الله سید علی خامنه ای

رهبر جمهوری اسلامی

شورای ملی ایران، نهادی ملی و دموکراتیک در مسیر آشتی ملی و تقویت وحدت ملی، با هدف برقراری حاکمیت ملت ایران تشکیل شده و معتقد است که دستیابی به این هدف از طریق برگزاری انتخابات آزاد، سالم و عادلانه بر اساس ماده ۲۱ بیانیه جهانی حقوق بشر و اعلامیه ۱۵۴ نشست شورای بین المجالس امکان پذیر می باشد.

چارچوب قانون اساسی جمهوری اسلامی، مجموعه متناقضی است که از یکسو، ابزار تمرکز قدرت در دست یک نفر بنام ولی فقیه و از سوی دیگر، نماد تبعیض و نابرابری شهروندان ایرانی است. افزون بر این، فقدان آزادی بیان و آزادی فعالیت احزاب سیاسی، نهادها و سازمان های مردمی مستقل از حکومت، سرکوب هرگونه گردهمایی یا اعتصاب و ممنوعیترسانه های غیر وابسته به حکومت، امکان برگزاری یک انتخابات آزاد، سالم و عادلانه را ناممکن کرده است.

پس از گذشت بیش از سه دهه اختناق و سرکوب، از جمله اعدام های گسترده پس از 22 بهمن 57، کشتار زندانیان در دهه شصت، ترور فعالان سیاسی در خارج از کشور، به درازا کشاندن جنگ تحمیلی و خانمانسوز، زندانی و شکنجه آزادیخواهان و رویداد ناگوار کوی دانشگاه، مردم ایران بار دیگر با حضور گسترده خود در جریان رخدادهای تابستان 1388، برگ نوینی از تاریخ جنبش آزادیخواهی در راه رسیدن به دمکراسی را گشودند و مشروعیت کل نظام را به چالش کشیدند و با فریاد شعار «رای من کو؟» به جهانیان نشان دادند که انتخابات در لوای قانون اساسی جمهوری اسلامی، انتصاباتی از پیش تعیین شده توسط رهبر این حکومت می باشد.

حکومت جمهوری اسلامی با اعمال سیاست های غلط و غیرانسانی در عرصه داخلی و سیاست های مداخله جویانه و تنش آفرین در عرصه خارجی، همه ساختارها و زیر ساختهای سیاسی، فرهنگی و اقتصادی کشور را به آستانه نابودی کشانده و کشورمان را به سوی فروپاشی اجتماعی می راند.

در چنین شرایط حساس تاریخی که سرزمینمان، ایران، با آن روبروست و خطراتی که صلح، امنیت و آسایش مردم ایران و یکپارچگی مرزهای کشور را بیش از پیش تهدید می کند، شورای ملی ایران از جنابعالی، سید علی خامنه ایی که براساس پیش نویس و اصل های ۵۷، ۶۰، ۱۰۷، ۱۰۸، ۱۰۹، ۱۱۳، ۱۲۲، ۱۳۰، ۱۳۱، ۱۵۷، ۱۷۵ و دیگر موارد در قانون اساسی جمهوری اسلامی، در مقام رهبر جمهوری اسلامی مسئول و تصمیم گیرنده نهایی اداره امور کشور می باشید، دعوت بعمل می آورد، برای برون رفت از بحران های موجود که کشورمان با آن روبروست، از عوامل و امکانات در اختیار خود استفاده نموده و به جنبش آزادیخواهی ملت ایران بپیوندید و شرایط زیر را سریعا فراهم نمایید:

یکم: آزادی بدون قید و شرط همه زندانیان سیاسی ـ عقیدتی در سراسر کشور

دوم: انحلال مراسم به اصطلاح «انتخابات» دوره یازدهم ریاست جمهوری خرداد ۱۳۹۲

سوم: فراهم نمودن شرایط برگزاری یک انتخابات آزاد و سالم به منظور تعیین سرنوشت مردم به دست ملت ایران، با پیروی از ماده ۲۱ بیانیه جهانی حقوق بشر[1] واعلامیه ۱۵۴ نشست شورای بین المجالس[2]،

همراه با نظارت نهادهای جهانی بی طرف مانند سازمان ملل متحد.

این مهم تنها با ایجاد روحیه دیگرخواهی، مشارکت و تحمل، ایجاد فضای آزاد و سالم برای رسانه ها و احزاب و اجرای بی قید و شرط همه معیارهای اساسی انتخابات آزاد میسر می شود.

در ضمن سخنگوی حقیر این شورا نیز حتا در ظرفیت یک کارمند ساده هم حاضر به خدمت برای مردم ایران می باشد.

با قرار دادن مردم در صدر تصمیم گیری های کلان در امور کشور، حق و حرمت جامعه را محترم شمارید و با پایبندی به قوانین و عرف بین المللی، سلامت انتخابات را تضمین نمایید تا بتوانیم روح استبدادزدگی را از ژرفای جان و روح کشورمان بزداییم.

دفتر سیاسی شورای ملی ایران

Shirzadegan

Siavash

Ha ....Ha .....Ha

That was a big laugh after I read you comment and what you posted later on. The funniest and twisted comment I ever seen on this site.
Are you okay?
Here is what you wrote:

"prince writing a letter to Khamenie, calling him seyed (that's definitely not classy or sophisticated) & begging him for a civil servant job, so he could safely go back to Iran"

The first comment gives impression to the readers that crown Reza Pahlavi wrote a personal letter to Khamenie asking him to give him permission to go to Iran and live there without being harassed by Islamic authority.
Then I asked you to post that letter, you're posting a protocol and agenda of "National council of Iran". lol.
I am really serious. Is everything okay.? I am more concerned about state of your well being.

HoshangTarehgol5

Hoshang Tarehgol An injury to one is an injury to all.

Next thing you'll claim is that this so called "council" is not a monarchist outfit & your clown prince is not its spokesperson.
The same way Kashani didn't shelter Zahedi to plan his coup.
SAVAK didn't work hand in gloves with Hojatieh.
But we all know de'nile is not only a river in Egypt, its also how monarchists deal with unpleasant realities.

Shirzadegan

Siavash

I am just wondering why you use derogatory language once you talk about crown Reza Pahlavi.
Did he do anything wrong to you or your family ? I really like to know. Most likely it comes from your bias.
Our dear Shahzadeh didn't do anything harm to do or your family and you always use derogatory language. Why ?
He is trying hard to help Iranian people to get rid of this fascist Islamic regime and you use derogatory language against him.
Don't you think that you have to appreciate his efforts against mullahs ? That is the "culture of appreciation". Do you remember that young American lady was showing appreciation to me in her write up when she made a trip to Iran ?. Why don't you learn from her ?
Similar situation was with those idiot students members of confederation. The idiots didn't even know where the money was coming from to mobilize them against our shahanshah. I am sure somebody or some foreign establishment were paying for those demonstration, but they were not smart enough to find out what was going on.
One of them was saying "Shah was working on Iranian international image to make Iranians look good internationally, and we were preparing to have big demonstration against him in Washington D.C." Do you see how retarded was that ? Instead of having demonstration to say "thank you" to our majesty, they had demonstration against him.
Those idiots put million Iranians in this mess.
For you, those days "conditioned" with anti Pahlavi sentiment. it should be addressed in an extensive therapeutic settings. It was the best period of your youth. You might have experienced romance for the first time in your life in those days. The best period of your life has been "conditioned" with Anti Pahlavi feelings. It has been prolong throughout your life. Most of the time you're acting on impulses that has been triggered from those days. Skillful therapist can work on those feelings during the course of therapy.

P.S
Conditioning was initiated by Ivan Pavlov. He did a lot of experiments in that field.

HoshangTarehgol5

Hoshang Tarehgol An injury to one is an injury to all.

Anglo khan you evading again.
This outfit whose spokesperson is your clown prince wrote the letter to Khamenie.
What part of these facts are so hard to admit? Cheers

Shirzadegan

Siavash

Seems you didn't even bother to read my comment, as usual. I don't see any connection between my comment and yours.
Try to learn rather than practicing monolog. That is the reason God gave us 2 ears , 2 eyes and one mouth, so we read and listen more than talking.

HoshangTarehgol5

Hoshang Tarehgol An injury to one is an injury to all.

You questioned the fact that your clown prince wrote a letter to Khamenie.
The letter was posted, so you can't deny that fact.
Everything else you've said since then is only diversion & failure to admit the truth, which in monarchists' modes operandi.
Human faculties could assist monarchists in seeing the truth, only & only if monarchists are able to muster the courage & integrity for it, so far it's been nothing but a spectacular failure to do so.

Shirzadegan

Siavash

Neutral observers who read my comment in connection with your respond will figure out who is legit and who is not. They can see who is truthful and who is lying. I trust the reader's judgement and their integrities.

HoshangTarehgol5

Hoshang Tarehgol An injury to one is an injury to all.

Iranian people overthrow monarchy 35 years ago, monarchists still cannot fathom that act. Slow learners? Allergy to reality? Dependent on denial of the truth? It's all of the above.
That's why your clown prince is still writing letters to Khamenie.
Ciao.

Shirzadegan

Siavash

"Iranian people overthrow monarchy 35 years ago,......."

The above statement is NOT complete.
What was the consequences ?
What statement has to come afterward.?
Let me help you about it.
The right statement should be read as follow:

Iranian people overthrow monarchy 35 years ago and they suffered since then.
Are you happy about it?
Most likely the answer is "YES" you're happy about it.
That is the reason I am saying : Red and Blacks hate our people and feeling is mutual, our people hate them too.

Goal :Restoring monarchy

HoshangTarehgol5

Hoshang Tarehgol An injury to one is an injury to all.

Despite the most repressive policies of mullahs Iranian people have never given up their struggle for freedom & democracy.
Such a continuous struggle for democracy & freedom is fundamentally in contradiction & opposition to monarchy or any other type of undemocratic order.
Per dreams of a restoration, let's just say; keep on a dreaming, a sustaining myth is about the only thing "our" increasingly geriatric monarchists have left for them. Enjoy it, while it lasts!

Shirzadegan

Siavash

Do you really know what democracy mean ? I really doubt it that you even know what is the meaning of democracy and how it works in democratic society. Vivid example: Once I was disagree with your opinion and you started bad mouthing this writer. There is a "little dictator" inside you. Seems you're not aware of it.
Anyway, like I said before, Me and my Dutch ex- girl friend were living in Heemskerk, North Holland. We were living in a democratic society and we were enjoying freedom that Monarchy system was offering us. No complain. My girl friend was very sophisticated whom I believed it was a production of monarchy system. Unlike what your'e saying the Netherlands (Holland) runs by monarchy and it was NOT undemocratic. Mullahs propagating the idea that monarchy is equal with dictatorship. Seems Mullahs were able to brainwash some people.

HoshangTarehgol5

Hoshang Tarehgol An injury to one is an injury to all.

"Historically speaking, the most obvious and most decisive distinction between the American and the French Revolutions was that the historical inheritance of the American Revolution was "limited monarchy" and that of the French Revolution an absolutism which apparently reached far back into the first centuries of our era and the last centuries of the Roman Empire.
Nothing, indeed, seems more natural than that a revolution should be predetermined by the type of government it overthrows; nothing, therefore, appears more plausible than to explain the new absolute, the absolute revolution, by the absolute monarchy which preceded it, and to conclude that the more absolute the ruler, the more absolute the revolution will be which replaces him."

Hannah Arendt - "On Revolution"

Shirzadegan

Siavash

"کارگر به درد،

برزگر به رنج،

روسپی به کار،

نیکنام مردمی در دام،

تًف بر این نظام،

مرگ بر این قیام"


سیاوش کسرایی

HoshangTarehgol5

Hoshang Tarehgol An injury to one is an injury to all.

Another incoherent response.
Obviously Hanna Arendt is way beyond a sycophant, Cult of Personality driven mind, but even such limitations shall be no excuse.
Read her observations again & this tine pay close attention to the relationship between absolute monarchy, like shah & the absolute revolution in response to it.
And this time try to think before responding.
GOAL: Educating uneducated monarchists.

Shirzadegan

Siavash

Client Estwood has a famous expression about "OPINION".
Do some research to find out what he is saying about people's opinion. Everybody has one opinion, okay so what ? Because someone express something about history her/his word should be like a "Gospel of truth". NO. That is her opinion and good for her. Now, did you get my respond to the Hanna Arendt. Okay let's talk about main issue here and it is your bias against Pahlavi dynasty. Seems my explanation in my previous comment in another blog requires some educational text before to get into the main topic.
I start from the meaning of BIAS.
Bias means "Preconceived Idea". For example Some one who hate mullahs doesn't even want to read Mullah's write up even that write up could be useful. it is prejudging some one without any rational reason. The bias person throw mullahs write up before reading his opinion. His write up will be banned in the mind of person who hold bias against mullahs.
I will talk about "Stereotype" in our next session.
Please let me know if any part appears incoherent.
Thanks,
Siavash

HoshangTarehgol5

Hoshang Tarehgol An injury to one is an injury to all.

I heard Clint was also going to make a movie based on Hana Arendt's book on Totalitarianism. But before that Clint was going to do a remake of Bertolucci's "Last Tango," he just wasn't sure if they should use butter or margarine for the remake. What do you think?
Talking about Bertolucci, he also made a movie about a Cult of Personality driven Italian fascist, it always reminds me of "our" own SAVAK loving home grown fascists. Do you remember name of that one?

Shirzadegan

Siavash

I see that you're trying to divert the discussion from main issue to something else. This is commonly called "Resistance". It is kind of "defense mechanism" the person use to protect the "Ego". Anyway, I am short in time and I have to go.
Tomorrow, I wil continue with "Stereotype", the definition and discussion. Hope these series of educational comments gives you some enlightenment. In the meantime, if you have any question, please don't hesitate to ask.
Sincerely,
S.

HoshangTarehgol5

Hoshang Tarehgol An injury to one is an injury to all.

Your the one diverting a profound observation from Arendt into a mockery by "introducing" Clint!
The name of that movie by Bertolucci on Italian fascists was "Conformist," now go & educate yourself on what conformism means & the commonalities between Italian fascists & Iranian monarchists; Cult of Personality is only one of them.

HoshangTarehgol5

Hoshang Tarehgol An injury to one is an injury to all.

Your the one diverting a profound observation from Arendt into a mockery by "introducing" Clint!
The name of that movie by Bertolucci on Italian fascists was "Conformist," now go & educate yourself on what conformism means & the commonalities between Italian fascists & Iranian monarchists; Cult of Personality is only one of them.

Shirzadegan

Siavash

We talked about Bias in my previous comment and the fact that you're holding strong bias against Pahlavi dynasty. Bias can be transferred from one generation to another generation. It is commonly call : "Multi generation transition". For example, parents who are hold negative feelings against khomeini, they can transfer those feelings to their children or rather next generation.
Today, I would like to talk about "Stereotypes" and "Generalization".
Stereotypes mean defined as rigid preconception we hold about all people who are members of a particular group. The belief in a perceived characteristic of the group is applied to all members without regard for individual variations. The danger of stereotype is that they are impervious to logic or experience. All incoming information is distorted to fit our preconceived notions. For example, Kurds are prone to be violent, or Turks have lower i.Q in compare to other part of country, or Rashti is very lose as far as their sexuality concerned. Some of your stereotype is that you think anyone who is pro monarchy must be member of S.A.V.A.K. Similarly you may have thought anyone who is pro marxist leninist in Russia must be member of K.G.B. You were also thinking that people who are pro monarchy must be living in convalescent hospital because of old age. You were holding this strong bias and stereotype feeling till the demonstration took place in Sweden and you saw the Omid Dana is a young individual as a pro monarchy who was Not in convalescent hospital. Da!!
Generalization are necessary for us to use, without them, we would become inefficient creatures. The information should act as guideline rather than absolutes. But Some people use it as an absolutes.
You have to realize that these are UNFAIR and UNJUST treatment of group of human being. It involves oppression. People who have no sense of "social justices" practices bias and stereotyping which is very cruel way of treating others.
In my next comment tomorrow, I will discuss about "Conditioning".
I am under time pressure and I have to go. Sorry.
Please let me know if any part was "Incoherent"
Thanks,

HoshangTarehgol5

Hoshang Tarehgol An injury to one is an injury to all.

There's no "we". You keep posting most embarrassing lines in here without a clue what you're actually posting. For example let's take your "Last Tango" post of last night. Not only you don't know where that title originates from, not only you don't have a clue what iy signifies, your totally lost when people ask you very basic questions about the material you post.
So in the spirit of clarifying the material you post in here I ask you again: do they use butter or margarine in Royal Last Tangos?
P.S. And thanx a bunch for all the comic relief & laughter. Simply priceless.

Shirzadegan

Siavash

Sorry for delay. I finally find a moment to continue educational material about your biases against Pahlavi dynasty.
In our previous discussions, I spoke about Bias and stereotyping.

In western society, "Bias" and "Stereotyping" considered to be the "Foundation of racism". In other word, racism feed from Bias and Stereotyping.
uckily, we don't have the problem of racism in Iran because we are all from the same race, but we do have bias and stereotyping as I mentioned previously.

Today, I would like to discuss about "Conditioning". Conditioning is "learned behavior", although it functions in unconscious level.
In this comment i am intending to enlighten you about how your bias thinking system was structured and where those intense feeling is coming from.

Learning is either voluntarily or involuntary. Voluntarily learning is the work of B.F. Skinner which is out of prospective of this discussion. "Involuntary learning" is founded by Russian Pioneer Ivan Pavlov. Pavlov, in his experiment with dog, found out that learning
occurs when a conditioned stimulus (CS) is paired with an unconditioned stimulus (US). Usually, the CS is a neutral stimulus (e.g., the sound of a tuning fork), the Unconditional Stimuli is biologically potent (e.g., the taste of food) and the unconditioned response (UR) to the Unconditioned Stimuli is an unlearned reflex response (e.g., salivation). After pairing is repeated (some learning may occur already after only one pairing), the organism exhibits a conditioned response (CR) to the CS when the CS is presented alone. The CR is usually similar to the Unconditional Response, but unlike the Unconditional Respond, it must be acquired through experience and is relatively impermanent.

That was the basic experiment of Pavlov with dog. One stimuli (food) is paired with fake stimuli (sound of bell), Then fake stimuli act the same as real stimuli.
Dog starts to produce salvation when food (real stimuli) went through his through. Pavlov rang the bell (Sound of bell is fake stimuli) whenever dog was eating the food. After several repetitions, just ringing the bell alone without food cause salvation. The dog was "conditioned" to the the sound of the bell and think that is real food and start to produce salvation.

Now, in your scenario, the best part of your youth has been spent with a bunch of the idiot students in Confederation. You laugh with them, spent the time with them, share your feelings and thought with them and finally you might have experienced the first romantic love in those days for the first time. Still after 4 decades, if you see any of those idiots on internet or in personal the joyful memories of those days bring tears in your eyes.
All these good feeling (Unconditional stimuli) has been paired with anti Pahlavi feelings (Unconditional response). Your unconscious mind interpret that the feeling of joy, happiness is essential for being anti Pahlavi dynasty. It is an unconscious process. That is why Pavlov pointed putt this kind of learning as Involuntary learning.
Please let me know what part is "Incoherent" so I explain further.

P.Galenous

P_J. An Iranian!

Why don't you stop your nauseating IDLE worshiping episodes...evolution dictates that you grow up and out of this nonsense and stop sounding like a broken record? Also, spare the audience from your constant rationalism and poor intellectualism, in order to justify your unsubstantiated points.
Problem is that you are NOT brainwashing anyone but yourself!!! Being repetitious does not turn a pussy cat out of Hitler or his ilk! And wasn't this how we ended up with the Mullahs? When are we going to learn as a nation/people that leaders are supposed to serve the public and are "PUBLIC SERVANTS" NOT the other way around and stop the one track minded Shahollahi/Basiji thinking…it has already become a tired rant. Are you, single handedly, trying to coronate the CLOWN prince???!!!. Even CLOWN prince does NOT believe that. If there is anyone here who suffers from obsessive compulsive disorder coupled with bouts of self-deception, guess who that person is??? There are those who have become rich tagging along the CLOWN prince, enjoying his billions, and the riches of that sick association. Are you in that category, promoting the despised thieving Pahlavi family...Let's hope that you are NOT!!??? And using the “Pahlavi hating” cliché is getting old and obsolete…most Iranians couldn’t care less.

A wise Persian proverb says: You told me a secret…I believed you...You insisted, I became suspicious...you’re persistence, made me realize that you are lying!

Pahlavi's vicious reign of terror came to an end and so will this one...it is the obligation of every Iranian to pick the best and the most honorable people to represent them. That excludes thieves, murderers or their culprits and associates. Iran needs educated people NOT village idiots...CLOWN prince could not even finish 4 year college and was kicked out of The Brown University, for his substandard work...Why are you supporting a flunky when you can pick someone brilliant and gutsy…some LION hearted individual with the craftiness of a FOX. This guy has not had the capability to run his own family!

Idle worshiping is the least intelligent way defining oneself and your continual attempts makes me wonder as what other ulterior motives you might possibly have and that make you suspect!


Shirzadegan

Siavash

Dera user name P_J
"Name calling" does't get you or anybody anywhere. you have to come up with some logic and rationality. "Bad mouthing" doesn't help. Anyway, to be more logical and more precise, please take a look at my comments on this blog and see how many times my comments were approved and how many times your and H.T comments were approved.
The only person who approves of his bias mind against Pahlavi dynasty is you. You're not doing him favor if you continue to cheerleading him. You feed his biases rather that helping him to get rid of those biases. If you're truly friend, you should help him to face his biases and the fact that his judgement has been shot as a result. He display very poor social judgement. For example, he still doesn't know why international community treat Iranians like a worthless dirt after our shahanshah left the country. Or he still doesn't know why during shah days international community respected Iranian. He is even critical of our shahanshah to call Iranians the "light of Aryan". He wants Iranians to be called piece a dirt as mullahs were saying about Iranians.
Do you see how much his judgment has been shot ? Don't you wanna help him ? I am sure you do.

P.Galenous

P_J. An Iranian!

Dear old friend Siavash,

Again you are trying to confuse the issues, cause distraction and when cornered, weasel your way out, . Do you accept the fact that Pahlavi reign of terror ended 35 years ago and they are gone…and no longer in existence?? It should NOT matter whether one is biased or unbiased these are facts on the ground. That is, was and will be the reality and the point of contention.

Human beings, and most animals, dream. Dreams are considered the absolute necessity for the health of the human mind and considered a release or safety valve from life's pressures and the anxieties. Only severely impaired or those who have suffered massive brain trauma can’t dream and they usually end up insane. By the same token living in one's dreams is considered insane and being detached from reality.

When you talk about someone, i.e. RP, whose family was thrown out of the country in a most humiliating possible way, and are despised even today and by overwhelming majority of Iranian populace, as someone who were “LOVED” and about to take over...that is considered being distanced, detached, and believing in fantasy pure and simple, wishful thinking at best and lunacy at worst.

I respect your choice whatever it may be, but NOT when it is so outlandishly overwhelms reality and it is way way out there...When you call this failed BOOB the "CROWN" Reza! It is hard to either understand or comprehend what you are trying to say. Because first, what crown are you talking about?? Are you talking about the Pahlavi's…didn’t we witness their dejection and expulsion from the country like dirty rags…then you must see that in your dreams and BACK into fantasizing…these are the kind of stuff that don’t connect, make no sense and hard to comprehend, especially coming from an intelligent individual!!

Shirzadegan

Siavash

"Pahlavi reign of terror ended 35 years ago and they are gone…and no longer in existence??"
P_J

Yes, that is true. I never deny that.
Who said I deny the historical fact? they lied to you if someone said so.
Yes dear the monarchy, Pahlavi along with happiness, success, prosperity and dignity of our nation is all gone since 35 year ago.
You are right. I don't deny that.
We lost our respect among international community since Pahlavi family was no longer in charge.
Some day Iranians were welcomed around the world, now they were looked at like a "piece a dirt". I don't deny that.
Some day, when Pahlavi family was in power, we were "light of Aryan" and now we are "scum of the earth". International community look at Iranians as Terrorist. Yes, I know it. It is gone 35 years ago. I never deny that historical fact. Who said I deny the reality.? it is all gone.
I see million Iranians around the world begging from foreign embassies for visa to get into foreign country. They were begging to work in foreign countries with minimum wages with disgrace and insult. That only happened since " Pahlavi's family was thrown out of the country in a most humiliating possible way". Yes, I know it.
You're right that we dream about living like we used to live during "Pahlavi reign". Only animal don't dream. As a human being, we dream about those luxurious life style and happiness we had during "Pahlavi family" .We dream about those things we had during Pahlavi's reign and we don't have it now. I never deny that. "Only severely impaired or those who have suffered massive brain trauma can't dream".
you're absolutely right about our dream of something that we had and we didn't appreciate. We lost a friend who promoted our country to the "Grand gate of civilization". We lost a friend who dignify Iranian nation to the highest level of humanity by calling them "light of Aryan". We dream about those days come back. I never deny that. Who said I deny those historical fact. ? If some one said so, they lied to you. I never said that.
Now, let me ask you again my previous question. What did our dear shahzadeh Reza Pahlavi did to you that you talk about him in a negative manner ? Please write something if he harmed you or anyone in his life.

P.Galenous

P_J. An Iranian!

Dear Siavash,

I am sure that you, as a sober thinker, accept the fact that in the present condition Iran and Iranians can't afford having another inept, incompetent, uneducated and uninspired BOOB at the helm of their country like RP who has done or accomplished NOTHING in his entire unproductive, fruitless life except spending the TONs of money that his corrupt family had embezzled/stolen and shipped out. As I had mentioned before, he could not or was not smart enough to even get a 4 year college degree...!!! When Iranians dominate in professorship of major universities in the US! Do you really think that someone with all those psychological hang ups, intellectual limitations and unprecedented political baggage could lead a country of 80 million out of their misery, when he couldn't even manage his own???!!!

Even Qajars would have been a better choice as inept as they were.

We can’t afford to go back anymore…there isn’t any more room left.

Had it not been for the $$billions they brought out, the CLOWN prince would have been either on the welfare rows, or work as a dish washer…when Iranians are first in business and first in education not only in the US but in Western Europe.

And let's NOT forget that no one considers traitors like M R Pahlavi as friends...and he certainly was NO light for the Aryans, but a shear darkness. What he did and the treasons that he committed enabled and released the vicious forces that we are experiencing today...enabling an illiterate, vicious character like Khomeini to the seats of power.

Zendanian wrote, and I completely concur that: "Pahlavi reign of terror was the enabler and incubator of the ferocious Islamofascists regime!"

Bye and so long!


Shirzadegan

Siavash

User name P_J

Thanks for the above comment dated on May 18, 2014. As I read your comment I learned that you agree that our Shahzadeh Reza Pahlavi didn't harm anyone in his life, otherwise, you would have mentioned it. Anyway, It sounds like that you are not disagree with restoring monarchy in Iran, you're only questioning our shahzadeh Reza Pahlavi's credentials. Here is brief of his credentials :

After leaving Iran, Reza Pahlavi completed his higher education with a degree in political science from the University of Southern California. An accomplished jet fighter pilot, Reza Pahlavi completed the United States Air Force Training Program at the Reese Air Force Base in Lubbock, Texas. During the Iran-Iraq War, Reza Pahlavi volunteered to serve his country’s military as a fighter pilot, but was declined by the clerical regime.

You can read the full story here:

http://www.rezapahlavi.org/about.php

As far as user name @Zendanian or rather @hoshangtarehgol concerned, he carries "Guilty feeling" because of his activities and his political stand put our nation in misery and poverty for 35 years. He has a guilty conscious. "Guilt" is strongest feeling among our 4 basic feelings which is 1. Guilt 2. Rage, 3. Love and 4. Hate. He uses "defense mechanism of projection" to ease off his guilty feeling by blaming "Pahlavi reign as incubator of islamic regime". Please don't give that much credit to what he is saying because you don't know the psychology behind it.
Do you know what defense mechanism of "Projection" is ?
Defense mechanism of "Projection" is blaming others for our mistakes. It is always other people's mistake, NOT mine. The word "Projector" as we are saying in Farsi is doing the same function. "projector" is a heavy equipment that throw light over stage. The world Projection is taken from that equipment. The equipment located another location and projecting light to another part of theater. Like H.T. who projecting the blame to monarchy. In Farsi it was translated as "Farafekani".
فرافکنی which is a poor translation.
If you pay close attention to comments, you will be able to see the "Soul" of any of these commentators on this site and motives behind those comments.

HoshangTarehgol5

Hoshang Tarehgol An injury to one is an injury to all.

Sorry to inform you but, you just can't leave the questions asked from you unanswered & jump to other topics, especially when you post videos with titles like "Last Tango in Tehran!"
Now please tell all of us if this royal last tango in Tehran was with butter or margarine?
And thanks for all the "sophisticated" & "classy" comic relief. Simply priceless.
Cheerio

Shirzadegan

Siavash

"Bicycle thief" was from Vittorio De Sica , "Death in Venice" was Federico Felini. my mistake.
Both films were shown in Tehran film festival.

BTW
Our shahbanu Farah is very sophisticated. She is very kind hearted , tender with rich mind. I keep thinking our shahanshah was very smart to choose this talented lady as a wife. I wish I can meet our dear Shahbanu Farah in person one day.

Here is some of her work.

http://www.farahpahlavi.org/canvasmag.pdf

Shirzadegan

Siavash

I am here to answer all your question.
What I pointed out is in theoretical term. Therapy is completely different scenario. I strongly recommend that you make an appointment and work on your biases in a course of therapy. Another issue that may come up during therapeutic session is related to the fact that you are Not aware of your "Social impact". By reviewing your comments, I noticed that the usage of profanity is much more than average in your discussion. In your fantasy world, you think to use obscene language is cute. No dear. It is not cute. Whoever told you it is cute, they lie to you. People generally perceive profane language ugly. Please don't make mistake. The fact is People are polite. They may smile or to choose to be silence when you use profanity, but the same people deep down in their hearts may say :"what an idiot". They even don't allow their children to hang out around someone who use profanity. The reason is that you are not aware of your "Social impact" and impact of your speech on other people.
Skillful therapist will record the counseling session so you become aware of your "Social Impact" when you make a comment.
Like I said before, therapy has not been recognized in Persian culture. People gets offended by the word "Therapy". They falsely think it is bad thing to seek therapy. That is NOT true. The same person who "Resist" therapy goes to "A friend" or "Next door neighbor" to talk about his/her issues. Those friends or neighbors are not professional and they give advises that might "Hurt" rather than "Help".
Anyway, please don't think I am God and I know everything, especially in the field of "movie industry". I don't know who the hell Bertolucci and his conformist movie is. The only Italian Director I know is the Federico Fellini. He became famous in Iran by making movie "Bicycle thief".
Thanks for reading my comment throughly.

Shirzadegan

Siavash

Beautiful song from our famous singers.



GOAL : RESTORING MONARCHY

HoshangTarehgol5

Hoshang Tarehgol An injury to one is an injury to all.

نقش شاه در انقلاب ۵۷ ــ دکتر هلاکويي و اکبر گنجي ؛
ی اکبر گنجی و دکتر فرهنگ هلاکویی با فرامرز فروزنده در بارۀ نقش شاه و ترویج اسلام شاهنشاهی (اسلام عرفانی) که پس از رسیدن محمدرضا پهلوی به نخت پادشاهی پی ریزی شد.

نظام شاه ناخواسته در فراهم کردن زمینه برای یک فریب بزرگ و خوراندن این دروغ به مردم ایران که "همۀ چیزهای خوب تنها در اسلام است"، یک بستر مناسبی شد که شیدان و سالوسان از تبار سیدان قریش توانستند که دام خودشان را بنام " اسلام آزادی بخش و رهایی دهنده از بندگی" به جوانان جویای آزادی بفروشند!

رژیم شاه گمان میکرد که با رشد و نمو اسلام در جامعه خواهد توانست که ایران را از افتادن در چنگال "امپریالیسم شوروی" بیمه کند و به همین دلیل اسلام شیعی را در همۀ جوانب تقویت میکرد و به به ملاها امتیازهای فراوانی میداد و آنها را در کارهایشان آزاد گذاشته بود زیرا گمان میکرد که ملایان پشتیبان سلطنت شاه و رژیم پهلوی خواهند بود که تا زنده بودن آیت الله بروجردی هم همینطور بود (آیت الله بروجردی در انجام کودتای ۲۸ امرداد و شکست دکتر مصدق نقش بسیار اساسی ایفا کرد و فتوای آیت الله بروجردی بود که ارازل و اوباش را از میدان میوه و تره و بازار تهران و همینطور مساجد و تکیه ها در روز ۲۸ امرداد به خیابانها سرازیر کرد و خانۀ مصدق را با کمک تانک و سربازان گارد شاه ویران کردند و هر چه که در خانه بود به یغما بردند).

شاه پس از کودتای ۲۸ امرداد بسیار از آیت الله بروجردی مشورت میگرفت و در انجام درخواستهای وی ( از جمله بهایی ستیزی و برانداختن بهاییان و خراب کردن ساختمانهای مذهبی ایشان) کوشا بود. ولی پس از مرگ آیت الله بروجردی، آیت الله خمینی به "مرجعیت شیعه" رسید که خدعۀ پیامبر اسلام را بکار برد و توانست رژیم شاه را با توجه به امکانات گستره ای که خوده رژیم شاه برایش فراهم کرده بود در مدت کوتاهی از میدان بدر کند و بر تخت سلطنت خودکامه او بنشیند و اسلام حقیقی و راستین را از به مردم نشان دهد که در آن خبری از عرفان، عشق، مهر و محبت نبود!

Shirzadegan

Siavash

Thanks for the video.
Did you even bother to watch the video that you posted here ? be honest with yourself, I doubt that you even watch the video, as usual.
Anyway, Akbar Ganji is saying shah believed in Islam that was different from Islam of Khomeini, Rafsanjani, Ali Geda believed. They were propagating Islam that was way different than Islam in which shah believed.
So what is your confusion.? That Islam is different from what these criminal believed or still believe it. Ganji say it very clearly.
Dr. Holakoi also mention about psychological impact of religion on Iranians mentality. About Islamic propaganda, he was saying the policy of Iran's government was coordinating with international policy of "Free world" as far as communist block concerned. The free world (which Iran was part of it) believed religion is able to stop the influence of REDS throughout the world. Again, it has nothing to do with specifically shah or his administration.
Sorry that it doesn't feed your bias against Pahlavi. it works against your bias. You must be angry of the policy of the Free world against communist block. (Green Belt policy).
Dr. Holakoie also speaks of Iranian faith and their believe system. He is saying 97% of Iranians were muslim and "they close the file of anyone who is NOT muslim". That is true. Dr. Holakoi is saying "Khodi and Na khodi). Mass has a tendency to avoid someone who is not like them. That is psychology of the mass. In western society, they single out the person who is not christian and in Iran they single out someone who is not muslim. Even among themselves when they are different such as shia and sunni, it is still different from someone who is not muslim. Yes that is true.
Now you expect the head of state (Padeshah) fight with people's believe and continue to be the head of the state. Do you see how funny it sounds ? Head of the state should respect the faith of the mass. He is part of the mass. He is not separate entity. Shah and Mass have a "symbiotic relationship". They feed from each other.
Jean Piaget used that terminology for the relationship between mother and child. The caring relationship.
Anyway, If you watch the video closely, you would have know that Ganjie made mistake. The mistake was about the date of constitution revolution that he said 1906 equal to 1307. No, 1906 is equal to 1327.
Anyway, please please please (james brown song) try to listen to the video before you posted in Iranian.com and also try to listen what others are saying. Read comment throughly, think about it, internalize it and then respond.
Thanks,
Siavash

HoshangTarehgol5

Hoshang Tarehgol An injury to one is an injury to all.

Internalize this; monarchy by relying on conservative Shia clergy, destruction of Iranian Civil Society, establishment of single party Rastakhiz, SAVAK's cooperation with Hojatieh,...became the incubator of Islamic Republic of Hell.

Shirzadegan

Siavash

The above comment shows that you didn't even listen to Mr. Ganji statement in the video you posted. Do you know what he said ?
Please listen carefully before you posting the video. Otherwise, it will embarrassing since you agree with his point of view.
Anyway, Ganji was saying "Opposition in abroad (like you) are saying the same thing ruling criminal mullahs in Iran were claiming as far as shah's religion believe concerned". Are you promoting mullah's claim here ? Please don't do that. We all know mullahs are liars. They lied to reach power and they continue to lie to stay in power.

Shirzadegan

Siavash

"Freedom of Choice" is the most beautiful aspect of the above video. Under Monarchy (Padeshahi) system, Iranians had a freedom to choose for their attires. They could come to public with Islamic veil or with western attire. Nobody bothered them. We see the combination of both Islamic and western attire in the video. Iranians were not being harassment by any authority. Thanks to our security forces who keep our country in peace and stability.
The video conveys the feeling of "Class" , "Sophistication" and modernization which is the essence of monarchy. That was how we were living under monarchy system.

GOAL : RESTORING MONARCHY

HoshangTarehgol5

Hoshang Tarehgol An injury to one is an injury to all.

As a reminder to "our" forgetful monarchists let's remind them it was those very civil servants and industrial workers that went on strike to overthrow monarchy. Iranian revolution of 1979 was actually one of the most most modern revolutions of its time, with the highest rates of both political street demonstrations and shop floor industrial actions, compared to any other revolution before it; from the French revolution all the way up to Mexican, Russian and Chinese revolutions.

What sealed the fate of monarchy more than any agitation by any one sector was shah's obtuse two minutes appearance on national television telling everyone that he had heard the "voice" of the people. Was he deaf for the previous 35 years?

Per IR's "continuing" literacy program, is that why now we have (according to IR's own statistics) more than 9,000,000 illiterates in Iran?

Below are two articles by Mr. Mohammad Ghaed on the content and composition of protestors in 1979:

http://www.mghaed.com/ay/demonstration.pdf

http://www.mghaed.com/ay/kargaran.pdf

Shirzadegan

Siavash

" Iranian revolution of 1979 was actually one of the most most modern revolutions of its time,"
Hoshang Tarehgo

That is commonly called "Delusion". Delusion means "False Perception".
All sociologists agreed about the concept of "Populism" in Iran's revolution. They all agreed the revolution didn't have neatness and sophistication of modern society such as Russian or French revolution. One of the reason was the the hegemony of revolution was in the hand of uneducated mullah who didn't even know Beethoven.
When Oriana Fallaci asked Khomeini about his idea of Beethoven. the sheikh puzzled and asked who the Beethoven was ? Oriana Fallanci said: "he composed revolutionary songs". Khomeini responded ..."o...oh if it is revolutionary , it is okay." That is "populism". It doesn't have sophistication of modern society. When people saw the image of sheikh in the moon, that was "populism". it didn't have sophistication of modern society. When Omat Hezbollahs set a fire in Cinema Rex burring over 500 innocent women/children and families in order to reach to the power, that was "Populism". It didn't have sophistication of modern society.

Mohammad Ghaed has a nice paragraph about the modernization was done by Pahlavi dynasty. He is saying: "During shah days, people were comparing Iran with European countries. Then, they were saying "Iran has not progressed as much as Europe, because we are not quite like them. Nowadays, the people compare Iran with Afghanistan, Pakistan and other third world countries and then they say: "Iran is Not that bad".... lol. That was written by Ghaed, not me. He confessed to the progress Iran made by Pahlavi.

HoshangTarehgol5

Hoshang Tarehgol An injury to one is an injury to all.

If you've started to read Ghaed at least try to read all of his texts & not just the parts that please you.
Ghaed also mentions that shah had this ambition to create a modern society, without the vaguest notion how a modern free, democratic society is incompatible with absolutism, single- party state & dictatorship.
Hopefully you know what absolutism means & how your puny clown king embodied it.
Furthermore when you're finished reading Ghaed you'll discover that he points out there were actually two revolutions against shah. Meaning that until monarchy was overthrown & even up to March of 1979 the fate of that movement was still contested.
No one denies progress during monarchy. What is pointed out is that all those developments were mal-developments that didn't result in establishing a proper bourgeois class or proper capitalist relations of production in Iran. Once you comprehend the difference between absolutism & bourgeoisie, or the difference between state imposed economic growth & capitalist market initiated growth, you might understand Ghaed's points.

Shirzadegan

Siavash

Unlike you, I read and listen to people very carefully to see where they are coming from and what is their opinions, so I can respond accordingly.
Again, The above comment shows that you didn't even bother to read my comment I wrote many times regarding "Dictatorship".
Long time ago, I explained in detail the criteria which is prerequisite for democracy. I explained about socio-formation of Iran many times. I found out you didn't even read what I said.
Anyway, I think I read Ghaed more in detail than you did because his language is NOT as bad as you think, otherwise, with those bias that you have in mind, you won't even bring it up his write ups.
He gives credit to our shahanshah. Yes, our shahanshah had ambition for Iran to reach Iran to the ultimate level of progress, as you said in the above comment. Did you appreciate that ? NO.
How about those idiot students in confederation ? Did they appreciate that ? No, they didn't. So something must be wrong.
Funny part is the you keep talking about democracy and you never respect other people's opinion. I do remember those "nasty words" you wrote me because I was thinking differently. I never forget those words.
Anyway, I only gives credit to Ghaed as far as he was saying that during shah days people were comparing Iran to Europe . That is true. They were saying Iran is NOT good enough in compare to Europe, Nowadays, they're compare Iran with third world countries and they say, NOT bad. Ghaed realizes that Iran went down and you don't.
Once again, NO one claim everything was perfect during shah days. Even our shahanshah came on T.V and explained that there were some mistakes. Okay, So what?
Is that mean people like you following mullahs? Of course NOT. Our shahanshah appearance intended to work together and make a better Iran. Yes, let's work with our padeshah and fix the mistakes.
Now, I am saying It is not too late. Let's work with crown Reza Pahlavi and make a better Iran. What is wrong with that?
Only thing could be wrong with that is your bias thinking against Pahlavi, but the good news is: not all Iranians are that much irrational.

HoshangTarehgol5

Hoshang Tarehgol An injury to one is an injury to all.

What part of monarchists living on Fantasy Island is so difficult for you to comprehend?
What do you think the term "Legitimacy crisis of the state" means?
How do you think it applied to monarchy in Iran?

Shirzadegan

Siavash

This video shows you that you were living in Island with no connection with reality of our society. Khomeini never said that people did revolution for shanty house. It was for koran and Islam. Here to watch:



Like I said before, you're way off track. Iran's revolution targeted destruction of modernization and prosperity of our country, NOT removal of poverty. You got it all wrong. Currently, poverty line is worse than any other time in history of Iran.

HoshangTarehgol5

Hoshang Tarehgol An injury to one is an injury to all.

Anglo khan for all your tape recording repetitions, after 35 years you still don't have a clue as how monarchy was overthrown in Iran.
The riot by slum dwellers living outside Tehran's city zone (thus forcing Tehran's city hall to send it the bulldozers to destroy their shanty town) was in 1976, way before even anyone had heard of Khomeini. But you don't need to know that , all you need to do is to repeat yourself like a tape recorder!
Such is the price of living on Fantasy Island.

Shirzadegan

Siavash


"The riot by slum dwellers living outside Tehran's city zone (thus forcing Tehran's city hall to send it the bulldozers to destroy their shanty town) was in 1976, way before even anyone had heard of Khomeini"
Hoshang taregol

The above comment is a proof that you're way off the track. The riot have always been in Iran. From Tobacco movement all the way to revolution in 1979. Those riots had nothing to do with revolution of 1979.
As you said one of them was in 1976. So what ? That shows you are Unfamiliar to what happened to trigger the revolution.
What you have in your fantasy world is the bridge of what Marxist Leninist was saying to the reality of our society. Unfortunately, it won't fly.
Below link will educate you about the start of revolution. It educate you about how revolution started.
Again, it had nothing to do with those slum dwellers living outside Tehran. Here is what happened:



On 6 January 1978 a slanderous article appeared in Ettela'at suggesting Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini was a homosexual and a serving British agent.[1] The next day, clerics in Qom protested and the police demanded they disperse.[1] When they refused, police opened fire and at least twenty people were killed. Iranian media displayed outraged mounting tensions leading up to the 1979 Iranian Revolution.[1

Source:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ettelaat

Dariush Homayon frequently mentioned about that article in radio or t.v talk show.

HoshangTarehgol5

Hoshang Tarehgol An injury to one is an injury to all.

What gave impetus to the anti-monarchist movement of 1977-78, which eventually turned into an anti-monarchy revolution of 1979 was an amalgamation of different protests from various different quarters in Iranian society, not one single event. What they all had in common was that they were all fed up with shah's single party dictatorship, SAVAK, the heavy handed approach of Inspectors from Chamber of Commerce (Otagh Asnaf), lack of democratic rights, run away inflation,...
The destruction of shanty towns around Tehran by City Hall and ensuing protests and riots by slum dwellers, were the opening guns of what turned out to be the 79' revolution.
Even after 35 years monarchists still cannot fathom what hit them, yet another indication they're still living on Fantasy Island. So be it!

Shirzadegan

Siavash

Of course, there were some mistakes as our shahanshah stated in his T.V appearance. He said : let's fix it. Now, keep bring up those mistakes doesn't solve any problems.
I am saying it is not too late. With help of crown Reza Pahlavi, we will fix those mistakes and make a better country. Let's all together gather under one flag of shir o khorsheed and restore the monarchy.
Payandeh IRAN

ArvandRud

Arvand Rud Arvand Rud is the proper name of the "Shatt al Arab". Let's just say I would never sell out Iran to the mullahs or the communists.

Siavash joon, I wish the prince was more like his grandfather, Reza shah....I believe he would already be in power if he had Reza shah e Bozorg's sense of resolve and fearlessness in uniting Iranians and lightning the flame we've been waiting all of these years for.

The prince, with all due respect, is trying too hard to be ''politically correct'', in the eyes of the west.

Iranians, right or wrong, respect power and steadfastness. They want someone to speak and behave like a giant against mullah tyranny.

Reza Pahlavi IS capable of doing this. He has about 25-30% of the population in Iran that openly support him and another 20%, I believe, support him but cannot do so openly for fear of the Ahriman Republic.

This makes him, easily, the most popular Iranian political figure today.

He has the education, manners and respect (which is very important among Iranians), and nationalist views we value.

He is not some kind of bitarbiyat playboy on the pages of the tabloids like so many royals, from different countries we see today.

He is over qualified in my opinion....but he needs to be more like Reza shah.

Shirzadegan

Siavash

Of course, we are living in different era than Reza Shah e bozog. Our society and our people have been changed since that time. Crown Reza Pahlavi is speaker of "national council of Iran". We all can gather under 1 flag to fight with these monsters who occupied government of Iran. Crown Reza Pahlavi truly represents the interest of Iranian people among international community.
Historically, Red and black reactionary have despised Iranians. The feeling is mutual. Iranian people also despise Red and black reactionary in return. Iranians knew those people back stab them and put their country in a mess for 35 years. They understand.

HoshangTarehgol5

Hoshang Tarehgol An injury to one is an injury to all.

Adolph Reza khan was nothing but a Nazi sympathizer, who had a hard time trying to stay loyal to his original masters that put him into power. Not to mention he turned out to be the biggest thief in Iran, for someone who started with no possession other than his clothing & horse, ending up as the biggest landowner in Iran. Too bad he couldn't take any of that with himself to South Africa!
Irony is how the exact same thing happened to his son; with shah accumulating all these mansions & houses in Europe, but not a single European country allowing him to even enter.
Paradox, to put it mildly, is how monarchists are urging the latest so called pahlavi to be more like his predecessors!

Shirzadegan

Siavash

The above comment is vivid example of what I was saying all long about user name @Hoshang Tareggol. His vicious and strong bias against Pahlavi dynasty. Like I said before, his bias against Pahlavi dynasty requires to be addressed in therapeutic settings. The issue is psychological, NOT political.

Why I am saying that? Let's talk about it. why I said the issue is psychological, NOT political ? Hope he reads my comment because he also has a habit of not reading people's comment and has zero tolerance for opposed idea. The write must realize that my suggestion is meant to help him, not hurting him. I hope he use it in his own benefit rather than close his eyes and ears to someone who is trying to help him to get over his biases.

Here is the reason:

PEASE ALL READERS OF THIS BLOG PAY ATTENTION ABOUT REZA SHAH THE GREAT, AND HIS ACHIEVEMENT. ANY RATIONAL, UNBIAS PERSON CAN SEE IT.

روزي كه رفت تنها مشتي خاك از ايران آباد را با خود برد بخشي از خدمات او در ١٦ سال حكومتش(جمع دو دوره خاتمي وا ن ) : دستور به سر گذاشتن کلاه پهلوی به جای دستار و عمامه به همه‌ی مردم در سال ۱۳۰۳ خورشیدی (در پست نخست وزیری) متحدالشکل کردن لباس مردان (جایگزینی کلاه پهلوی با کلاه شاپو) و اجباری کردن کت و شلوار و کفش مردانه به جای لباسهای سنتی کشف حجاب (تغییر لباس زنان از پیچه و روبند به لباس و کلاه فرنگی و باز کردن صورت) ایجاد دادگستری تهیه و تصویب نخستین قانون مدنی ایران بنیانگذاری ثبت اسناد بنیانگذاری ثبت احوال و اجباری کردن برگزیدن نام خانوادگی و صدور شناسنامه لغو کاپیتولاسیون اسکان عشایر براندازی خانسالاری (ملوک الطوایفی) یکی کردن نیروهای نظامی و تشکیل ارتش ایران بنیانگذاری بانک سپه (نخستین بانک ایرانی) بنیانگذاری بانک ملی ایران بنیانگذاری بانک فلاحتی- بانک کشاورزی بنیانگذاری بیمه ایران ساخت راه‌آهن سراسری ایران (از خلیج فارس تا دریای خزر) جاده‌سازی، پلسازی و تونل سازی در کشور (به ویژه جاده های تهران به شمال) گسترش صنایع بنیانگذاری رادیو ایران (نخستین ایستگاه رادیویی ایرانی) بنیانگذاری خبرگزاری پارس(نخستین خبرگزاری ایرانی) بنیانگذاری دانشگاه تهران (نخستین دانشگاه ایرانی در ایران) بنیانگذاری فرهنگستان ایران (برای تقویت زبان و ادب فارسی) تغییر تقویم رسمی ایران از تقویم هجری قمری به تقویم خورشیدی جلالی (تغییر ماههای حیوانی به ماههای اوستایی) تغییر نام رسمی کشور در مجامع بین‌المللی از پارس به ایران در سال ۱۳۱۴. اعزام اولین دسته از دانشجویان ایرانی برای آموختن فنون جدید به اروپا تأسیس بانک رهنی برای گسترش خانه سازی در کشور تدوین تعرفه گمرکی و واریز در آمدهای آن به حساب دولت برچیدن حکومت دست نشانده شیخ خزعل در خوزستان و بازگرداندن این خطه به دامن میهن بنیانگزاری نیروی دریائی بنیانگزاری نیروی هوائی راه اندازی کارخانه هواپیما سازی ایران ، شهباز تشکیل موزه ی خزانه جواهرات ایران و پشتبانه اسکناس الغای امتیاز نشر اسکناس توسط بانکهای خارجی و اختصاص آن به بانک ملی برچیدن بلدیه ی شهری قاجاریه و تاسیس شهرداری تشکیل اولین فدراسیون ورزشی المپیک ایران و فدراسیون فوتبال ایران تاسیس مدارس دخترانه و دانشسرای عالی بانوان تاسیس دانش سراها و موسسات آموزشی تاسیس ژاندارمری و شهربانی کل کشور تاسیس سازمان زنان کشور تاسیس سازمان غلات و محصولات کشاورزی تاسيس اداره باستانشناسي و بيرون آوردن بخش عمده پرسپوليس و پاسارگاد از زير خاك تاسيس موزه ملي ايران پايه گذاري صنعت فولاد ايجاد صنايع دخانيات داخلي كارخانجات قند و شكر كارخانه جات سيمان نامش را امضا ميكرد "رضا"

NOW THESE ARE SMALL PORTION OF WHAT REZA SHAH THE GREAT DID FOR IRAN.
Do you see any of these accomplishment in the above comment ?
Of course, NOT.
Why ? these are historical fact. why it has been said in the above comment ?
Public should informed about historical fact, so why this individual fabricate our history ? The above is what Reza Shah the Great did for our country.
Please readers of this blog, ask yourself what this individual did for our country?
Please allow me to answer that question.

ANSWER:
THIS GUY AND PEOPLE LIKE HIM PROVOKED NAIVE IRANIANS AGAINST OUR SHAHANSHAH AND PUT OUR NATION IN POVERTY FOR 35 YEARS.


ArvandRud

Arvand Rud Arvand Rud is the proper name of the "Shatt al Arab". Let's just say I would never sell out Iran to the mullahs or the communists.

Its ok Siavash, Iranians know it was the lies of the Marxist groups that helped bring that akhoond to power.

What astonishes me though, is that these guys were largely made up those western educated students who suddenly returned from American universities as ''anti-western revolutionaries''.

They have no sense of nationalism or patriotism.

Yet they insist on ''educating'' the most patriotic Iranians, the monarchists, about history.

These are the same people who refer to kurosh e bozorg as ''a thug''.

They have no shame in hating Iran's long history or the tens of millions of Iranians who don't fall for the anti-shah lies.

Shirzadegan

Siavash

Yes, they despise Iran's history, Iranian people, specially Iranian culture. The feeling is mutual. Iranians hate them too. Alliance of RED and Black reactionary put our nation in this mess.

HoshangTarehgol5

Hoshang Tarehgol An injury to one is an injury to all.

Iranians also know what Cult of Personality means & how much of a Nazi sympathizer Adolph Reza khan was.
Koroush's biggest contribution to Iranian politics & culture was his apprehension of lies & dishonesty. For Koroush plagues & lies were in the same category. The so called pahlavis were nothing but lies, dishonesty & more lies; start with how they stole their last name; how Adolph Reza khan was infamous for his insatiable greed for other peoples lands,...all the way up how according to Mr. Alaam (shah's own minister of royal court) shah had turned the "royal court" into the biggest brothel of the land.

ArvandRud

Arvand Rud Arvand Rud is the proper name of the "Shatt al Arab". Let's just say I would never sell out Iran to the mullahs or the communists.

Z, you have an irrational personal hatred for our padeshah.

Now I believe the health care is universal in Britain. So whats the excuse for not seeking some kind of psychological treatment for this disorder among our pseudo-marxist /shah hating friends?

Again, I must inform you that we do not disagree on certain points regarding the shortcomings of the shah. Such as the couple thousand political prisoners, unfortunately murdered by SAVAK. The endless support and immunity given to the clergy, who the shah believed would always back him....and his refusal to allow more political participation.

Apart from those points. Everything else the pseudo-marxists say is pure lies and propaganda.

You know as well as I do that Reza shah achieved more in 20 years than the pathetic Qajars did in 200 years. He will always be remembered as the father of modern Iran.

The other open misrepresentation of facts shah haters repeat is ''Reza shah ''stole'' lands.''

Reza shah confiscated parts of the properties of a few dozen families, who owned most of Iran's land, for use in infrastructure development and other development projects. Then the aristocrats (who were still rich) started to cry that ''Reza shah just wanted to steal our land''.

Later, his son distributed all of that land, including his own, to the peasants. This is something the pseudo-marxists should appreciate about the shah.

But again, irrational hatred for Iran's history and it's kings does not allow these people to think straight....for for this disorder some recommend medication and some combination of cognitive therapy.

Shirzadegan

Siavash

Again, the above article feed your bias against Pahlavi dynasty.It doesn't help you.
I suggest you read Bijan Jazani book "Tareekh 30 saaleh" 30 years history very carefully. Jazani had Unbiased thinking in his write ups. Please try to learn from him. He gather data from Lebanon in those days. He conceptualized that the future movement of Iran would have a religion color. He predicted long before revolution happened. He was Unbiased. Why ? because he didn't believe in Islam or religion movement,but he gave credit to upcoming Islamic movement and view it as a potential political alternative after collapse of Monarchy.
Now, are you able to say that after collapse of Islamic republic the alternative would be potential Padeshahi or monarchy system ? Of course NOT because your view has been commingled with strong bias that you can not think clearly. You are not able to judge the history a way it is.
Hope the metaphor I used help you to attend the therapy to get rid off your biases.

ArvandRud

Arvand Rud Arvand Rud is the proper name of the "Shatt al Arab". Let's just say I would never sell out Iran to the mullahs or the communists.

We'll get back to those days again, I wouldn't count on the akhoonds staying in power too much longer.....but I could barely watch it anyway, it's too sad what happened after all we were working for.

But let me just take the time to thank all of the ''leftists'' students and ''intellectuals'' who instigated the rebellion, not only against shah, but against the thousands of civil servants and hard working men and women who were quickly transforming Iran from the middle ages fuedal society it was under the Qajar turks, to a modern, powerful and respected state.

But let's remember the way people thought back then. People thought ''democracy'' was being able to directly criticise the shah. The average person, then, had a kind of childish view of what really constitutes a democracy. Ofcourse they learned soon enough.

As for the argument about the revolution being essentially a revolt of the lower classes; I just want to point out we are talking about an Iran where the living standard of every social group was improving faster than all of it's neighbors and faster than most western nations.

Was there poverty? Unfortunately, as in every country, even Iran felt the side effects of turning a agricultural and nomadic society, into an industrial powerhouse. Should the shah have given the lands of the aristocracy to the peasants who had worked that land in virtual bondage for centuries? It was a monumental experiment on his part and the economy dealt with the results as best as it could as those workers turned around and sold that land and moved to the shahrestans.

Looking at the economic projections of the time, by the 1990's Iran would have mostly dealt with the issue of the flooding in the cities of the migrants. Jobs in manufacturing and construction were already employing a huge percentage of the migrants and many of their children went ahead to have productive lives after a good education.

At least the IRI continued many of the shahs programs like education, and literacy continued to rise.

Thanks for the video anyway.

G.Rahmanian

G. Rahmanian



We had ballet, too. And I saw Alvin Ailey and the gang in Tehran. When I tell young dancers I meet about how much I used to enjoy watching ballet they often ask me to watch them perform. You should see the joy in their eyes when I talk to them about ballet. The joy that has been denied the Iranian youth.

And what have the Islamist criminals ruling Iran have done in the past three and a half decades? They have invited all kinds of terrorists and backward entities who want to live in the 7th century. What a difference!!!

Shirzadegan

Siavash

The above video gives the feeling of glamour, luxurious life style, class and sophistication to it's viewers . Those are the essence of monarchy system.

GOAL : RESTORING MONARCHY

NiloufarParsi

Niloufar Parsi

do you think the Pahlavis would be welcomed back as monarchs by the people in Iran?

Shirzadegan

Siavash

Sure, Pahlavis would be welcomed back as monarch by the people of Iran. Crown Reza Pahlavi. Here is the latest vote poll.

http://iranian.com/posts/view/post/15947

The link shows that crown Reza Pahlavi voted 28% equal to Hossain Mousavi.
Please notice that Mousavi had access to all form of media inside Iran and crown Reza Pahlavi was not even in Iran. He didn't have that luxury of political propaganda that Mousavi had. But the numbers are equal.
I am sure the number would be much higher in democratic Iran.

NiloufarParsi

Niloufar Parsi

I won't question the quality of the survey but even 28% is hardly a winning majority. My sense is that monarchy as a system may have bigger support than your chosen candidate.

But let me ask you: Khamenei has the Council of Experts above him. This is more legitimate than how the late Shah operated. What is your vision for the level of power of a future monarch?

Shirzadegan

Siavash

Yes, Monarchy as a system has been introduced by our ancestors for the first time to the history of mankind. We are proud of that. We lived under monarchy over 5000 years. Our people are well familiar with the system and it's function.
28% vote is the answer to the question of whether Pahlavi would be welcomed in Iran. The poll shows that he is welcomed as much as leader of Green Movement was welcomed in 2009.
Surely, In democratic Iran, the number would be much higher than 28%. That is just a glance to see what direction Iran is heading.
I have mentioned previously that no one claimed our shahanshah was a saint with no mistake. In fact, our shahanshah appeared on state T.V in 1978. He addressed the nation. He said that there were some mistakes, but let's fix it together. It is not too late. We still can fix those mistakes by supporting crown Reza Pahlavi.
The strength of democratic wave which initiated in Egypt and escalating throughout the Middle East mandate the level of power of the future monarch in Iran.

HoshangTarehgol5

Hoshang Tarehgol An injury to one is an injury to all.

“What is monarchy? From whence does it derive its sanction? What has been its gift to humanity? Monarchy is a survival of the tyranny imposed by the hand of greed and treachery upon the human race in the darkest and most ignorant days of our history. It derives its only sanction from the sword of the marauder, and the helplessness of the producer, and its gifts to humanity are unknown, save as they can be measured in the pernicious examples of triumphant and shameless iniquities.”
James Connolly

Shirzadegan

Siavash

The experience in U.K, Sweden, Netherlands is way different than what this guy "James whatever" is saying. As you see in the above video (if you watch it which I doubt ), it conveys the sense of dignity, luxury, glamour, style, sophistication and class. That is the essence of monarchy. Any unbiased person can see that.
Monarchy gift to humanity has been integration, strength and powerful Iran over 5000 years.
We are proud our ancestors introduce monarchy, as a political system, for the first time to the history of mankind.

Payandeh IRAN

HoshangTarehgol5

Hoshang Tarehgol An injury to one is an injury to all.

“One of the strongest natural proofs of the folly of hereditary right in kings, is, that nature disapproves it, otherwise, she would not so frequently turn it into ridicule by giving mankind an ass for a lion.”
― Thomas Paine, Common Sense

NiloufarParsi

Niloufar Parsi

that's quite funny! Paine had a good sense of humour it seems.

HoshangTarehgol5

Hoshang Tarehgol An injury to one is an injury to all.

If you think Tom Pain's humor on Monarchy is good, wait till you read his humor on the clergy & the religious establishment. Tom Pain is called the father of American Revolution because he was a true Renaissance man, enlightened with no patience for any heredity powers; be they "king" or priests.

Shirzadegan

Siavash

This comment consist "nasty word". No need to respond

HoshangTarehgol5

Hoshang Tarehgol An injury to one is an injury to all.

The truth might hurt, but it's always liberating; especially when stated by the father of American Revolution. Cheers

Shirzadegan

Siavash

Truth requires Clean language, NOT profanity and obscenity.

HoshangTarehgol5

Hoshang Tarehgol An injury to one is an injury to all.

Monarchy in Iran has often been some of the most profane & most obscene moments of our national history.
For instance how the so called pahlavis destroyed Iranian civil societies & assassinated & executed some of the best poets Iran has ever had, poets such as Mirzadeh Eshghi and Morteza Kayvaan.
So the only query left would be: is there really a substantial difference between criminal mullahs & criminal so called pahlavi "kings?"
The answer to this requires a simple yes it no.

Shirzadegan

Siavash

"Monarchy in Iran has often been some of the most profane & most obscene moments of our national history."
Hoshang Tarehgol

Any unbiased person watch the above video will find the above comment is ridiculous and completely lie.
The above video convey the feeling of "Class" , "Glamour", "Sophistication" and modernization. It shows how Iran was on the way of becoming equal to European countries. It shows it with no need of profane language. Profane language that you commonly use in your communication with others is a reflection of "trashy society". However, Red's idea is not that far from Trash Can.
The above video shows Iran's rapid progress in 70's. It shows the great step toward "Grand gate of civilization" as our shahanshah stated frequently.
I am sorry that you can't see that,, but hey that is not only for you to judge.There are thousand and thousand Iranians on this site with rational mind and "good social judgement" and good moral that are able to see it. They will able to judge about Iran progress prior revolution. It also shows how alliance of Reactionary Red and Black destroyed our beautiful country. Shame on them. No need for me to explain more.

HoshangTarehgol5

Hoshang Tarehgol An injury to one is an injury to all.

Here's a short list of what stupid little kings in Iran have "achieved:"
- Creating such internal chaos & confusion that a Macedonian invader could invade & wipe out our entire nation.
- Being so corrupt, greedy & dysfunctional that another set of invaders, this time Arab Muslims, could invade & again wipe out our entire national structures.
- Your "sophisticated" king was the one repeatedly writing about how a "holy ghost" had saved his life. Even uneducated peasants are not as superstitious as that.
- Your "classy" monarchy was the same system that destroyed Bahai temples, while giving a free hand to building thousands of mosques, Hossanieh, Mahdieh,....
- This the same "glamorous" system attracting millions of uprooted farmers to big cities of Iran, ending up creating tens & hundreds of slums & shanty towns around every major city in Iran.
After 35 years monarchists still don't have the vaguest clue what happened.

Shirzadegan

Siavash

ALL READERS OF THIS BLOG PLEASE PAY ATTENTION.
The above comment is a big insult to our history and our ancestors. The writer is trying to trash our 5000 years of civilization. Only enemy of Iran is make such a rude and provocative comment. Any rational, unbiased person can see in the above video we had a good life till the enemies of Iran put us in this misery for 35 years.

HoshangTarehgol5

Hoshang Tarehgol An injury to one is an injury to all.

Your continued obtuse cult of personality promoting Nazi sympathizers like Adolph Reza khan, or his murdering son, is the biggest insult to intelligence and taste of all.
You have no answer why clown kings in Iran, by their sheer corruption and greed have always provided best opportunities for foreign invader; Macedonians, Arabs,...to destroy and plunder our land.
Monarchy in Iran from 1953 to 1979, by its reliance on conservative Shia clergy, destruction of Iranian Civil Society, SAVAK's cooperation with Hojatieh,... was the incubator of Islamic Republic of Hell.
What part of this is so hard to comprehend?

Shirzadegan

Siavash

You have a weird idea about Iran's history. Seems you have been brainwashed by ruling mullahs since you're repeating Mullah's agenda here about Reza shah the Great. Here is the historical fact which has been documented:

"For many decades, Iran and the German Empire had cultivated ties, partly as a counter to the imperial ambitions of Britain and the Russian Empire (and later, the Soviet Union). Trading with Germany appealed to Iran because the Germans did not have a history of imperialism in the region, unlike the British and Russians.[2][4] When the Nazis took over Germany in 1933, trade was not seriously affected.
While Nazi propaganda sometimes tried to play up the similarities between the two Aryan nations, in reality Iran cared little for the Nazis' policies, including anti-Semitism. An example of this was when Iran's embassies in occupied European capitals rescued over 1,500 Jews and secretly granted them Iranian citizenship, allowing them to move to Iran and thus be saved from almost certain death in the Holocaust.[2]

Nevertheless, British propaganda began to accuse Iran of supporting Nazism and being pro-German.[2]

Although Rezā Shāh declared neutrality at an early stage of World War II, Iran assumed greater strategic importance to the British government, which feared that the Abadan Oil Refinery, owned by the UK-owned Anglo-Iranian Oil Company, might fall into German hands; "

Rezā Shāh appealed to U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt on the basis of the Atlantic Charter:

"…on the basis of the declarations which Your Excellency has made several times regarding the necessity of defending principles of international justice and the right of peoples to liberty. I beg Your Excellency to take efficacious and urgent humanitarian steps to put an end to these acts of aggression. This incident brings into war a neutral and pacific country which has had no other care than the safeguarding of tranquillity and the reform of the country." — a letter of 25 August
However, this plea failed to prompt a response from the US President to prevent the invasion of Iran, as Roosevelt's response shows:

"Viewing the question in its entirety involves not only the vital questions to which Your Imperial Majesty refers, but other basic considerations arising from Hitler's ambition of world conquest. It is certain that movements of conquest by Germany will continue and will extend beyond Europe to Asia, Africa, and even to the Americas, unless they are stopped by military force. It is equally certain that those countries which desire to maintain their independence must engage in a great common effort if they are not to be engulfed one by one as has already happened to a large number of countries in Europe. In recognition of these truths, the Government and people of the United States of America, as is well known, are not only building up the defenses of this country with all possible speed, but they have also entered upon a very extensive program of material assistance to those countries which are actively engaged in resisting German ambition for world domination."
Roosevelt also reassured the Shah by noting "the statements to the Iranian Government by the British and Soviet Governments that they have no designs on the independence or territorial integrity of Iran". However, in 1945, the Soviets would be responsible for backing two breakaway territories in the north.

Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Soviet_invasion_of_Iran

So there was no Nazi sympathizers. Reza Khan saved the lives of 1500 Jews from holocaust. I know your strong bias thinking does' allow you to see it. I am really sorry...
Iran was neutral and Reza Khan was in process of "Reform the country". it was act of aggression against Iran. Brits and Soviet wanted to stop Hitler from having access to oil field in Khozestan. Hitler was playing card of "Aryan nation" to have access to oil field. Got it ?
That would have been disaster for the mankind all over the world if Hitler won the war.
Now, what part of this is so hared to comprehend. Please let me know I explain further.

HoshangTarehgol5

Hoshang Tarehgol An injury to one is an injury to all.

Cult of Personality is getting coupled with distortion and manipulation of Iranian history in here.
1) If you had ever gone to the main railroad terminal in Tehran, Rahe Ahan, you could've still seen the faded marks of a large swastika sign on the ceiling of that building. Iranians had that fascist logo put on that ceiling thanks to Adolph Reza khan. Permitting public buildings in Iran to be polluted by fascist symbols and icons is Nazi sympathizing.

2) Here's a short piece on why no one took Adolph Reza khan's claims of "neutrality" serious, and Iran was invaded:
پيش از رسيدن شعله های آتش جنگ جهانی دوم به ايران، بر شمار کارشناسان آلمانی در ايران روز به روز افزوده می شود.

بسياری از ايرانيان، آلمان را فرشته نجاتی می دانند که برای رهايی آنان از چنگال خرس بزرگ (روسيه تزاری) و اکنون اتحاد جمهوری های شوروی سوسياليستی، و انگليس ابليس (بريتانيای کبير)، فرستاده شده است.

هيتلر در دامن زدن به آتش آلماندوستی ايرانيان، بی کار نمی نشيند. برای نخستين بار، بخش فارسی راديو آلمان براه می افتد.

بسياری از ايرانيان، با اشتياق پای راديوها جمع می شوند، سراپا گوش به گفته های آتشين «بهرام شاهرخ» گوينده ايرانی ِ زرتشتی ِ بخش فارسی راديو برلين.

در برنامه های تبليغاتی اين راديوی فارسی زبان، ايرانيان و آلمانی ها، برادران و خواهران تنی ِ نژاده يی هستند که دست ستمگران آنان را از يک ديگر جدا کرده است. بگفته اين راديو، اکنون، زمان آن رسيده است که اين خواهران و برادران تنی برای بخشيدن سيمايی نوين به "جهان آلوده به يهوديان"، دست به دست هم دهند.

همزمان ، ماموران مخفی و جاسوسان آلمانی در ايران به تکاپو می افتند. با سران قبايل و عشاير تماس می گيرند. از نقاط حساس ايران عکاسی و نقشه برداری می کنند. زمينه را برای منفجر کردن ذخائر نفتی ايران، در روز ضرورت، آماده می سازند.
نيروهای متفقين که زير ضربات کوبنده متحدين، برهبری آلمان نازی پرپر می زنند، از رضا شاه پی در پی می خواهند که آلمانی ها را از ايران براند.
درخواستی که ناشنيده گرفته می شود، بر پايه اين استدلال که ايران در اين جنگ رسما، اعلان «بيطرفی» داده است، و بيرون راندن آلمانی ها، مغاير اين «بيطرفی» خواهد بود.
http://www.radiofarda.com/content/o2_iran_us_relations/2267245.html

3) You claim of Adolph Reza khan "saving" Polish jews from Nazi Holocaust is another total distortion of history. First of all they were Polish prisoners of Russian, and only some might have been Jews, but definitely not all of them. Second: If they were prisoners of Russians how were they in danger of becoming victim of Nazi's holocaust? Third: they got to Iran by the end of 1942, two years after Adolph Reza khan was removed from power & sent to South Africa. Was he directing this operation with remote control from South Africa?
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1b3_1364043359

Last but not least what kind of an army exactly did Adolph Reza khan build that the whole armed forces collapsed without firing a single shot and the entire country was occupied by foreign forces?