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Difference Between Iranians and Egyptians: Integrity, Self-Respect, Courage & Belief In Democracy

Balatarin

Khomeini's funeralWhen it comes to the question of why Shah’s relatively mild and wimpy dictatorship (if even you can call it that) was replaced by this horrendous, mass murdering disaster of the IR, the response that one most often hears from the assortment of the fossil 1960’s and 70’s revolutionaries, West residing -yet West hating—Islamists and lazy IR appeasers is this: the “revolution” was just and proper; it’s just that Khomeini and the mullahs just hijacked it and the people were powerless to stop them.  Bullshit!!  My opinion is—and has always been—that the Islamic Republic is compatible with Iranians’ ultra-religious and xenophobic culture, and that is why it came to power, has remained in power for three and half decades despite unspeakable crimes against the people, and will remain in power for the foreseeable future.

 

Look at it by way of this example: Egypt  had a bloody revolution that deposed a dictator.  The dictator was replaced by another authoritarian ruler who wanted to shove a friendly constitution down people’s throats (sound familiar?) in a haste.  But people didn’t like the constitution, and didn’t like the fact that the new ruler is becoming another dictator.  So, they have taken to the streets, and despite tanks on the streets, despite threats, beatings and killings, they are not giving up.  They are coming from all around the country to protect the ideals for which they had a revolution.  Now, compare that with Iran.  Just a month or so after taking power, Khomeini had an “election” on the form of government  with a “yes or no” answer to the Islamic Republic (can you believe that nonsense?), and there wasn’t even a peep from anyone.  He then shoved a “velayat faghih” constitution down their throats through the same process.  Again, not even a peep.  They could have poured onto the streets, just like Egyptians are doing.  So, why didn’t they?  There are only a couple of painful answers: 1) they were onboard with the ultra-religious form of government; 2) they were too lazy and/or scared to say or do anything.   I go with number 1.  And please, don’t cite me the example of five (or even a hundred) guys who may have said something at the time.  I’m talking about statistically significant portions of the population—as is the case in Egypt.

 

There you have it folks: the overwhelming majority of Iranians WANT the Islamic Republic.  It’s culturally compatible with them.  That’s all. 

 

Photo: Masses of Iranians at their beloved leader, Khomeini's, funeral.

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faramarz

Faramarz

Thanks AO for your timely blog.

Shah and Mubarak were both dying rulers that the US correctly decided that their time was up. But the US gambled and threw its support behind what they perceived were moderate Islamists. But it didn’t work out like that. I am very proud of the Egyptian people who are not giving in to the Islamists and are forcing Morsi to back down. Also, I am grateful to the US, Europeans and IMF who are telling Morsi that there won’t be any financial aid or tourism if he keeps this up. They are not accepting "Yaa Roosari, Yaa Toosari" out of respect for Aagha and his anti-Imperialist stands.

In my view, Morsi like Bazargan and Bani Sadr could be useful transitional leader if someone grabs them by the ear and kick them in the butt!

But let me add a third reason for Iranians doing what they did. It is rage. We are an angry and unforgiving people. We get mad, we burn the house down and we will never accept that we made a mistake. Even to this day, with Shah, Mossadegh and Reza Shah buried deep, six feet under, we still bring them back as the reason for our current failures.

sayyad.shaer

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I agree with the writer of this article. This is a spot on description of Iranians. Instead of priding ourselves in the Achaemenid Empire of thousands of years past, we should look at ourselves today. Iranians have historically lost, lost, lost, lost, and lost more and more and it's because our culture is self-defeating. We talk down on Arabs but it's the Arabs who are getting a better future than us right now. We're the laughing stock. We point fingers (the British! the Mullahs! the Russians!) but we don't see how we contribute to it. After all, a government is formed by its people, even if it is a dictatorship, it is of that culture and it is a manifestation of that culture. The regime in Iran is just as Iranian as any regime before it, it's just an Islamic version, in reaction to the Cold War dynamic. As usual, Iranians being super proud and thinking we are above everyone else and entitled to our own way, we decided to opt for Islam instead of capitalism or socialism. And this is consistent in almost every Iranian regime. Nothing special, and there's nothing better about us than others. We need a thorough cultural analysis- one that isn't afraid to call a problem a problem.

Nene

Nene An insincere and evil friend is more to be feared than a wild beast. a wild beast may wound your body, but an evil friend will wound your mind. Buddha

I agree Iranians don't understand what's really wrong with Iran , yet they are too proud of their past.


Arabs and Turks are progressing at such fast rate.

But Iranians are NOT.

This is a disaster.



all the Brain drain is horrible for Iran.

PersianET

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I disagree. You should always be proud of yourself and who you are. I think you should also not define an entire group of people based on their government or the people you dislike. We are still a great group of people. I am proud to be Iranian.

Nene

Nene An insincere and evil friend is more to be feared than a wild beast. a wild beast may wound your body, but an evil friend will wound your mind. Buddha

I'm proud to be Iranian and I worship Iran all day and everyday.


Long Live Iran.

NiloufarParsi

Niloufar Parsi

This reads like a confession. Are there a lot of Catholics around where you live now?

persianone33

persianone33

Great article. I think the only thing that was mispresented was the point made about the Egyptian revolution being Bloody, unless it was figure of speech it really wasn't and they are lucky so far it hasn't been anything like how people are treated by these dogs oh I mean Mullah's.

AnonymousObserver

Anonymous Observer

Thanks. On the "bloody" issue, Mubarak did kill a lot of demonstrators. Nothing like the mullahs, but the people did sacrifice lives in Egypt--and are still continuing to do so. There's a funeral today of some of the dead from yesterday.

persianone33

persianone33

that's fair I meant it fairly relatively compared to what happened in Iran in 2009 or what is happening today in Syria.

Damavand

Damavand

The other difference that you overlooked is that the Egyptians have 30 years of Islamic rule in Iran to look at and fight it off while there was no such event when Iran went through its revolution.

AnonymousObserver

Anonymous Observer

True, BUT you never hear Egyptians citing the clusterf**k in Iran as the reason why they want Morsi gone as well. They're main gripe is that the guy has turned out to be a dictator, and that's not what their revolution was bout.

IranFirst

IranFirst

Thanks for the blog AO.
I am afraid it is already too late for the freedom loving people of Egypt vs the Islamist idiots. The Islamist rushed through (just as IRI did) a draft constitution based on Barbaric Islam
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Draft_Constitution_of_Egypt
check article 2
"legal code stems from “the principles of Islamic law" " , look for more Islamic cutting of limbs and putting women in body bags (mandatory Hejab) etc
Also no guarantees of worship except for Islam, Christianity and Judaism , also NO guarantees for women's right (where barbaric Islam does the most harm)
Unless this draft gets voted down, Egypt is heading for dark ages as Iran did. and terrorists like Mohammad Atta, will be ruling Egypt based on the barbaric cult of Islam

Shirzadegan

Siavash

There were so many resistance among Iranians against Islamic thugs all the time. Much more than 48% Egyptians oppositions, but the Islamic thugs behind mullahs were able to suppress people. Unlike many people who left the country, I was living in that era day by day. The dictatorship formed right after shah leave the country. In Tehran university, people put a man who were bashing opposition on their shoulder and chanting" in boto ma shekasteem khomainie montare to hasteem. means we were able to to break this idol (shah) and now we are waiting for you khomainie. The mass of Hezbollahs attack to all demonstration were Unblievelable. They attacked to the large scale. Beaten up demonstators with no mercy. No way to stop Hezbollah's aggression. If I am not mistaking you were very young and were not living in that time. 1 Hezbollah was enough to suppress 50 civilian people. They stabbed, beaten like a savage animal any kind of demonstration. The situation was way different with Egypt. There was a restaurant and cocktail lounge by the name of Chatanoga on Pahlavi street.I was there when the thugs which were mostly pimps and drug dealers attack to the restaurant. The fearful crowd left the area and the restaurant turned to ruin in a few minutes. It was smashed and windows broken and set on the fire. No one could do anything about it. The only word I can find to describe the situtation is "Fascist". It was the darkest time in Iran's history. Silent majority was also brainwashed that shah is devil and khomainie is an angel. No way to resist the avalanche. Way different than current situation in Egypt. Just after June 9, 2009 the Islamic ruling thugs became a little vulnerable.

trawetsdor

trawetsdor

AND...
don't forget that Iran has oil while Egypt does not. To be honest we have enjoyed the luxury of subsidizing our lives in Iran from $6 a barrel to hundred in my generation's lifetime. Half to the Mullahs and half for the rest of Iran. Mullahs aren't that bad after all, huh? Given how pricy oil has become over years average middle class Iranian has accumulated a good chunk of the national wealth since Akbar Shah got crowned. Otherwise how could we afford the state of the art cell phones, new cars, diploma after diploma from Azad University, Dubai concerts, European tours, loan after loan to buy real estate with or without Iran, etc. Why an average Iranian would want any change when we are getting retired around age 50 with a hefty pension, fairly matched with inflation, for the rest of our lives. For those of us who still claim all these goodies are in the hands of Sepah and Hezbollahies hold your breath since such foul cries are spit in the wind. If the people on the IR side are the only ones enjoying these spendings then by looking at life of average middle class we can conclude how much Iranians love mullahs. We have maintained mullahs for the past 34 years, haven't we?

Satar, I am sorry; the only one deserving the freedom you were looking for was you.