NIAC: What Kind of Future Do You Want?

National Iranian American Council promotional video

16-Jun-2011
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Faramarz

Some Observations

by Faramarz on

I watched the short clip a few times and came away completely unconvinced that NIAC really understands (or wants to understand) the core issue that is facing Iran today; and that is the gross violation of the human rights and the human dignity by the IR Regime in Iran.

Why is it that there was only a brief mention of the human rights with a picture of a woman in green and then you had three pictures of angry Netanyahu and the talk of war as the main theme of the clip?

That is what the pro-Regime crowd on this site as well the Regime itself want you to believe, that the main issue facing Iran is the imminent military threat, notwithstanding the fact that since the mid 90’s, every year the Regime was going to get a bomb, Israel was going to strike and Bushehr was going to open soon! In my book, a country of 7 million people cannot do much harm to a country of 70 million, 1000 miles away.

Maybe there is something more sinister at work here.

NIAC either believes that the Regime is reformable and by removing the sanctions the good Basiji, happy Pasdar and smiling Syyed will emerge and all will be well. And my reaction to that is, “You are completely clueless buddy. Go live in Iran for a few years and you will change your mind. And I am not talking about summer vacations in Shemroon and the Caspian Sea and the tourist sites in Yazd and Esfahan.”

Or they believe that the current form of government is the best thing for Iranians and as long the Regime is a thorn in the eyes of Israel, Saudi Arabia and the rest, we should be happy with it. And my reaction to that is, “You are playing with the lives of innocent Iranians who are being detained, tortured, raped and killed in broad daylight everyday. And moreover, you are helping a Regime that is robbing a generation of Iranians of their hope and aspirations.” Not good.


Mash Ghasem

James D, (as in Jimmi D?)

by Mash Ghasem on

God as my witness (if there's one) me hopes I'm completely wrong and you're right. 100% transparency in all affairs and membership control is always a virtue, good luck.

As far as community work, since NIAC has good contacts with Ebadi why don't we get Shirin Ebadi to initiate a world wide hunger strike campaign against repression in Iran, or some kind of protest in front of every embassy and diplomatic center of IR. God knows its about time, though he keeps saying, keep him out of it.


Simorgh5555

NIAC:The proof is in the pudding!

by Simorgh5555 on

Did you notice how many images of Natanyahu was shown in that short video alone They are trying to manipulate the viewer to believe that Natanyahu is an existential threat to Iran. There were no pictures of Khameneior Khomeini in the video when Iran's human rights was being mentioned. There were.nomention of executions. There was a small shot of Ahmadinejad but there was plenty of Netanyahu to go round. Yep, you guessed it.Iran's problem is not e regime and Khamenei is not a problem. The only menace to Iran is Netanyahu. This is very telling of the NIAC.
Also did you see the Iranian flag anywhere in the video?

BACHE AKHUNDA WE KNOW YOUR TRICK.


choghok

Some people live to whine

by choghok on

It is sad that for some people it does not matter what you do, you are doing it wrong anyway. Under a long time NIAC was blamed not to take side against IRI, and yes their policies in times of Khatami (and beginning of Ahmaghinejad) was try to improve ties and it still is since improving ties with democratic parts of the world would mean better situation for Iranians and an end of IRI and that is why Khamenei let Ahmaghinejad come to power. They do not want improved ties, so they are against what NIAC is struggling for.

After that NIAC saw that there was no chance of reform and improving ties like most of us did and the post election killing started so they changed position and what happens now? The same people whining before continue whining now about why NIAC supported IRI before. They go so far to accuse Shirin Ebadi coworkin with the Ayatollah. Whiners can not see the big picture and think in terms of black and white. For them the only way is for a foreign army invading iran and killing all who they see as the problem and if anyone else see any other solution he is a traitor and should be punished the same way.


ali_aaa

You've got to love these niap piac guys

by ali_aaa on

They ask you how much they need (nothing less than $100 is accepted) plus what is with English language? I thought this was for Iranian. Oh well, another looser organization


seannewyork

what a joke niac is

by seannewyork on

how come they forgot to mention that they stood up for the rapist regime and during the most criticial time when millions rose up they had lobbied so hard that obama was scared to say anything to stand up for the people.

how come they forgot to say they tried to make the regime in iran look like any other nice regime and say that they are teh voice of the people and they are getting pushed around by the USA.

This is one of the most self serving self promoting orgs around.  If they were any good they would have 500,000 members but they are not.

regime loyalists have no place in the exile community.


Simorgh5555

Mola, you are right I have

by Simorgh5555 on

Mola, you are right I have done nothing to improve the lives of Iranian Americans. ...........I don't live there.

I am speaking to my Zionist friends at the moment and we usung GPS satellie signalsof perfect sites in Iran which we should bomb: Basij, Sepah, The Islamic Consuktativr Assembly, mosques, residents of the Supreme Leader and the President. Its my Zionist wet dream to see all of these cockroaches slaughtered and blown to a thousand pieces.
I am going to love seeing thr reaction on your face when Israel, yes Israel, a JEWISH state sends thousands of Sepah and Basij to their graves. You and your NIAC brothers will be screaming blue murder and there id NOTHING you can do about it.

Mola you work for a Jew.

Your mortgage for the roof over your head was given to you by a Jew.

Your tax goes to Jews in tunes of billions if dollars every year.

THE JEWS OWN YOU .


Mola Nasredeen

....

by Mola Nasredeen on

No amount of demonization of NIAC and people who support them is going to change this fact:

Your constant whining and name calling is the result of your inaction, your guilty feeling.

But unlike you, Iranian Americans have real issues to resolve while living in the United States and NIAC is there to help.

NIAC has earned it position among us while you're nothing but a bunch of whiner.

Or an Israeli supporter on a mission, beating his chest and screaming 'bomb, bomb, bomb Iran'. 

Ask yourself: What have I done to better the lives of Iranian Americans?

I have your answer: A big fat NOTHING! 


James D.

Question for mash

by James D. on

Hey Mash,

I agree with what you said about NIAC's good work (anti-war, community work, responding to insults to Iranians,
Visa,..).

As for the part about them not being elected, has an advocacy group ever been elected? They're not proclaiming to be a government in exile or some nonsense like the MEK. NIAC represents its members and in all the communications I've seen they're careful to say they're giving the community "a voice" (not "the voice"). And I respect that they give their members a vote in setting the organization's priorities. Has any other Iranian American organization done that?

Also the claim is about "big-business lobbying" is spurious. The big oil companies have very well paid lobbyists -- they don't need NIAC!


Simorgh5555

"Since 2002 we did bugger

by Simorgh5555 on

"Since 2002 we did bugger all about Human Rights in Iran. We only realised Iran had a human rights problem in 2009. Please visit our website for more details"
"When we unite as one we make sure the Islamic Republic is heard. With your one hundred dollar donation we will make sure the ambasador of the Islamic Republic will find his place in the heart of the Amercian political community"
"We oppose sanctions and calls for war with the Islamic Republic but swe have no solutions to help the people of Iran. We propose that the Iranian people have more of the same which they have been having for the last thirty years because and no one should come to the help of 70 million Iranians. After all its their ass and not ours which is being pinned to the wall while we live in the safety and security which America has to.offer"
"We believe the best way to help Iranians is through engaging with the Islamic Republic. Yes, they kill 8 people every hour. Yes, they have the highest execution rate in the world second only to China. Yes, they rape women and men, torture and maim protesters. Yes, they arbitarily throw journalists and doctors into prison. Yes, there is no rule of law, no freedom of speech and men cannot wear shorts or medallions now but you know what? Those folks in Tehran are really nice guys. Ahmadinejad is such a cool guy if you really got to know him"

"So please give generously to NIAC and remember every cent is going to a worhy cause: The Islamic Republic".

"You can make a difference"


Mash Ghasem

...

by Mash Ghasem on

Good, Bad and the Ugly on NIAC. Good: anti-war, community work, responding to insults to Iranians, Visa,.. Bad: nobody has elected them as anything and they're already known as 'voice' of the community in some mainstream circles. Ugly: doing the dirty deed of hooking up with Oil companies and big-business lobbying. Neo-Con culture is so much deeper than we might think.

Mollah: Stalin said he still has some one way tickets to Siberia, would you like one? We'll free you Shotor to go wherever he wants to go. He must be bored shitteless with you by now. God knows we are, but he says keep him out of it.


Sepidar

Good point Ramin J

by Sepidar on

"Courage. They take on BOTH the regime in Tehran AND the Israel lobby! That is gutsy." 

These guys are professional and get to the point. Looking into their record, they have achieved alot. It is refreshing to finally see iranians holding hands and not grabbing feet.


Roozbeh_Gilani

Thank you very much "Mola Nasredeen"!

by Roozbeh_Gilani on

The very fact that a known  cyber agent of the islamist regime who is constantly cheering the murderous , terrorist islamist regime and it's gangs of terrorist allies, hezbullah and hamas on this site, jumps into a personal attack on me, the moment I voice my opposition to NIAC, goes to prove what NIAC is, what it stands for and what type of "Iranian_americans" support it!

well done genius :)  

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."


Mola Nasredeen

....

by Mola Nasredeen on

Red star,

What have you done to better the life of Iranians in the United States or Iran?

All you're doing day in and day out is whine, whine, whine.

If Stalin was alive he would've probably ordered your arrest for being so boring.


Roozbeh_Gilani

"the vast majority of Iranian-Americans, I agree with NIAC's"

by Roozbeh_Gilani on

as if it was not bad enough to have an unelected, despised gang of islamist thugs back home, claiming to "represent the vast majority of Iranian_Iranians", we have another unelected, self appointed group of carpet beggers in US who through their "internet rapid response unit" claim exactly the same nonsense for "iranian_americans".  

It is very lucky for south african blacks, that the south african apartheid regime did not sponsor a similar lobby "South african_americans" in US to oppose severe international sanctions on apartheid regime. Otherwise the south african blacks would still be in chains of the white racist rule.

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."


hirre

Sigh...

by hirre on

If it wasn't for NIAC the usa would have gone to war with Iran with god knows which consequences... The only difference between us and other arab countries according to the US is that we have NIAC which gives us a voice... There is a difference between an opposition group and a lobby group, NIAC is the latter and will remain, even after the IR is no more...


amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

On the surface NIAC looks good, but look under the hood.

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on

They are not as amazing as you think when you take a closer look. Don't just look at what they say and the issues they have stood for.

To start with they misreported their support base, making it look like they had much more support than they did, by over 300%.  So then the next question is where are they getting their resource$$$?  Usually when you have an organization that conceals its funding you have an amazing problem, which is what do they have to hide?  Where is the majority of their money really coming from?

As for Ebadi, she has a more open record as she got her nobel peace prize based on her political connections with backing from EU/USA ie USA/Germany/France/UK and it is crystal clear working together they brought the IRI and khomeini to power in 1979 (just to remind you what that means, they had most of the pro-democracy activists killed  in cold blood during the revolution) and the west today wants to keep mullahs in power no matter what the cost to Iranians human rights and aspirations for freedom and justice.  The mullahs being the group that have caused Iran to regress, not progress.

Nobel Peace Prize (what a joke)

Jimmy Carters Human Rights (even sicker)


Ramin J

These guys are amazing!!

by Ramin J on

lke the vast majority of Iranian-Americans, I agree with NIAC's message of no to war, no to broad sanctions, and yes to human rights.

but even if i didn't, i have to say the following: This organization is in a class of its own. What they produce is first rate, their activity level is insane and they are sooo reasonable, which I guess confuses Iranian-Americans a little since almost all other groups are so unprofessional and incoherent.

And they have something else: Courage. They take on BOTH the regime in Tehran AND the Israel lobby! That is gutsy. but that is also why they represent the majority of Iranian Americans. 

The majority of our community oppose the regime as well as the belligerent positions of right-wing Israelis.

In fact, the key to NIAC's success lies on this very page. Look at their professional and coherent video and compare that to the insane ramblings of the haters on this page.

So you believe Shirin Ebadi is with the regime???  Are you nuts??? Or perhaps Elvis has gone back to his own solar system, and 9/11 was done by the Eskimos?

So here is your choice - the professional organziation that brings together Ebadi, our community and US politicians, or the professional mental cases who only hate and who seriously believe Shirin ebadi is with Ahmadinejad.

No wonder NIAC is doing so well, they have no competition worthy the name!

 

 


amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

Information is power in this world of games.

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on

Monarchists that I meet generally all have either masters degree or above and are very well educated.  Others, with a less academcal back ground are independently wealthy entrepreneurs, realtors, investors, insurance company owners etc.  They seem to be the more promising of the elite group of accomplished Iranians in general.  So I feel monarchists have alot more to contribute towards freedom and justice than others combined.

I remember in the 80's one of them managing a bank in London, got a photocopy of a huge check paid by the IRI regime towards a political leader working secretly for IRI and building a large team.  That info was coveted, so the regme did not know who or how the info was obtained, but it was passed on to people who put them out of business.  So it goes to show informaton is still the key to being able to compete.

Iranian polticians are so unpatriotic in general at the highest levels.  With the exception of RP they are competng with each other at who can kiss the rear of one major power or the IRI.  The problem with RP is 2 fold, on one side he has too many foreign serving Iranians advsing his policies (though they are better than the IRI) and on the other front he is completely shut down by the USA and its team.

The problem for Iranians is on the USA/UK/France/Germany end of the equation that created the IRI and want to keep their own group of mullahs in power.  In all likelyhood if he were to have Iranians come out in his support in large numbers in Iran and he looked likely to make a move, he would not make it to Iran alive.  So it's better he sit it out.

Monarchists need a solution to the dilemma created by the USA policy for Iran.  Do you have any idea's?  The idea of there's nothing we can do is not good enough, although without a solution to this problem we are limited and powerless.


mahmoudg

stay away from this organization

by mahmoudg on

a lobby of the Islamic Rapist Republic in the US.


Simorgh5555

Amir

by Simorgh5555 on

Good question. The fact that Shirin Ebadi has made her bed with NIAC gives the game away. I wrote a blog about NIAC recently and its founder Trita Parsi who had using his own words an 'unholy alliance' with Javed Zarrin the IR ambassador to the UN which was made known to the publicb after the Washington Times got hold of his email correspondence. The overwhelming impression one gleens from the emails is that Parsi sought the normalisation between the IR and the USA and was bending backwards to help the IR find them friends amongst American politicians on capital hill. He never once addressed the hunab rights issue with the terrorist ambassador and it has always been his contention that the world should embrace this terrorist regime warts and all with no pre-conditions. His NIAC hardly raised human rights in Iran as a serious issue before 2009 and it has now been cornered into campaihn. They have also lied about their membership claiming they had thousands of more members than they had. It is my honest belief that they are not sincere or genuine.
Unfirtunately, there is no proper opposition figure or organisation which truly represents Iranian regimes. The state of the opposition is truly pitiful. I am pre-disposed towards a monarchy although I am growing weary of Reza Pahlavi's civil disobedience.policies.
It is the worse time to be an Iranian.


amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

Simorgh, how did Iranians discover these guys?

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on

What was it that gave these guys away?

Who in your opinion do you think is the most competent team of Iranians to restore Freedom and Justice for Iran and why?

When do you think America will fundamentally shift its policies for the middle east, if ever?