Monday
August 27, 2001
* Tragic
Minou's article about Shayan
only tells one part of the tragic story about asylum seekers in Australia.
At the moment a Norwegian freighter is moored just outside the Australian
territorial waters off Christmas Island. Yesterday it saved over 400 asylum
seekers, mostly Afghanis. The Australian government has refused to allow
the ship to moor at Christmas Island.
Quite ironic really. Australians become outraged over the treatment of
two of it's own aid workers being detained by the Taliban regime in Afghanistan.
At the same time over 400 refugees are fleeing the same oppressive regime,
but are left to float at sea -- treated with contempt and inhumanely.
The nationality of these people is irrelevant. It could have been a boat
full of Iranians. What is important is the way that they are currently being
treated. It is an indictment on the current federal government's policies
and actions towards asylum seekers.
Minou cited an story produced on 4 Corners about the treatment of asylum
seekers during their time in detention. It is also worth visitng a previous
story about the fate of asylum seekers once they leave detention. It is
equally depressing and inhumane: //www.abc.net.au/4corners/archives/2000b_Monday16October2000.htm
Emma Greenhalgh
* Precise and interesting
Nagmeh Sohrabi's article is one of the most interesting I have read on
Iranian cinema in general ["A
very good thing"]. I had heard about Mohsen Makhmalbaf's film but
never had the oppurtunity to see it. I very much liked his "Noon va
Gol" ("Moment of Innocence"), as well as "Gabbeh".
Makhmalbaf is certainly one of the best Iranian filmakers of his generation.
I very much liked Nagmeh Sohrabi's analysis. It was extremely precise
and interesting. I truly hope to see more of her critics in this section.
Regards,
Darius Kadivar
* Racist remarks
Let me say this: Iranians can be khar the same way that Indians can be
Gandhi ["An
Iranian can never be khar"]. How else would you explain the Iranian
revolution? A bunch of khars got together and destroyed something good.
They did not know how good it was because they were khar.
There are good and bad people everywhere. It really gets on my nerves
when I hear racist remarks from an Iranian who leaves out side of Iran.
After all that we had to put up with, you would think that we would have
a better understanding of the whole situation.
As for the guy who wrote the original article ["Crouching
chap"], I found him to be a well-balanced person who was trying
his luck with satire. As for the person who wrote the response to his article,
I think that you are the one who needs to get a life or even maybe a good
man. From your comments, it seemed that you were more upset about this guy
being married to a non-Iranian than anything else. A very typical Iranian
Woman's response.
Farid Taghaboni
* Closed-minded
I can´t believe that you call yourself an intelligent woman and
write such a rude letter about the author of "Crouching
chap". Are you jealos that you are not married to him?
If you read his stories you can see that he is obviously an intelligent
man and so is his pretty wife. The problem with you and a lot of Iranians,
in general, are their closed-minded attitude towards other cultures and
their constant readiness for criticism.
M Fulton
* Why so much hate?
I remember as a school kid every day I stepped over the American, Soviet
and Israeli flags painted on the stairs of my school, I remember reading
sad stories about Palestinians being driven out of their houses and killed
by Zionists in my "Farsi" book in fourth grade. It is very easy
to understand the hate towards Israel among the people in Iran, it is like
many other things feeded to you from the first grade.
What I do not understand is the hate I see among people in the debates
on this site. Maybe it is one of our properties as Shi'ites with all these
imams, Ali, Hossein and others who supposedly stood up for the weak and
foguht and died for the right of the weak (super hero mentality long time
before Superman and Batman).
Many of you are saying because Israel thinks of Iran as its enemy then
Israel is our enemy. Well I don't think so. Israel is against Iran for helping
Hezbollah in Lebanon and some other (armed) Palestinian groups but other
than that, Iran is no threat to Israel.
Some things really changed my attitued towards Israel in the years since
I left Iran. I have two very good Jewish friends, one of them is my best
friend I could say. Both are West-European Jews. Their story is really similar
to many other European Jews. During World War II many of their relatives
were killed. What could they do after the war? How could they stay in a
country where their neighbours killed them? Some moved to other European
countries, other parts of the worl, or Israel.
Many of us Iranians left Iran because we could not accept how the society
was, we couldn't fit, well this is how I think many jews in Europe felt
when they moved to Israel.
Again I am not defending Israel for what they have done to Palestinians,
I just want you to instead of hating someone or something trying to understand
and relate to them, then we can make peace. It is easy to be judgmental
and hateful, but it won't solve any problems, just adds to it.
Choghok
* Iran & Pakistan
This is in response to the two letters "Preconditions"
and "No
thanks".
In the first one, the author has unwittingly pointed out an error in
my article. In my last sentence, I should have written, "The only recourse
for Iran is to foster a closer relationship with Pakistan." Iran and
Pakistan have shared an extremely close relationship in the past. However,
it has been marred by the Taliban predicament. Naturally the solution to
Taliban's status and consequently the agreement on Afghanistan's role in
future Central Asian geopolitics is the key to any long lasting alliance
between Pakistan and Iran.
All nations involved in Afghanistan are resigned to the fact that the
Pakistani-backed Pathan-dominated Taliban are going to be an impermeable
feature in that country. Even though the Taleban are radical Sunnis, they
pose no significant threat to Iranian interests and can be nullified if
Iran were to ally with Pakistan. When Mussharaf went to Tehran, he assured
the end to the killing of Iranians within Pakistan by militant Sunnis and
he seems to have been acting on his promise.
Since the usurpation of the democratic government, a couple of years
ago by General Mussharaf, Pakistan has undeniably become more stable. Within
Iran, despite the constant struggle between the reform and conservative
elements within the government, it is highly improbable that there will
be any counter-revolution or a transformation of the underlying configuration
of the theocratic state.
There is no reason why there has to be a common and specific enemy shared
by Iran and Pakistan. After all Pakistan is interesting in offsetting Indian
influence in Central Asia while Iran competes with Turkey for a closer relationship
with the Turkic states throughout the region. Iran and Pakistan have the
same objectives, which are to become regional powers. In this modern era
a strategic relationship is not formed out of a need to discourage or overwhelm
enemies but is created to mutually assist one another in pursuing common
aspirations.
In the second letter, Mr Peeroz is correct in asserting that Iran is
an ancient neighbour of Turkey however Anatolia and the Iranian plateau
have historically been rivals. The Byzantines and the Sassanians, the Ottomans
and the Safavids, secular Turkey and theocratic Iran. Turkey is diametrically
opposite to what the Iranian government espouses and it is inevitable that
they would be competitors in the Caucasus and Central Asia. Even if Iran
were to ally with Turkey and Israel not only would it incur the wrath of
the Arab states in the Middle East and isolate Pakistan but it would present
a profound contradiction within the present Iranian regime.
On the contrast by forming a closer relationship with Pakistan and acting
in concord on foreign policy issues, it would strengthen the position of
both these nations and allow them to exert a greater leverage on other nations
in the region. While Uzbekistan and the other Central Asian states are wary
of Pakistan because of its support for the Taleban, a united Iranian-Pakistani
front nonetheless will compel these nations to seek stronger ties with this
formidable alliance.
I am Pakistani, with a Pakistani father and an Iranian mother; nevertheless
the aesthetic, ethno-linguistic, literary and historic ties that exist between
these two nations are a revelation to me at times. Pakistan has a considerable
Shi'ite population (varying for 20% to as much as 30% of the population)
and also within its borders are many Iranian ethno-linguistic minorities
(notably the Baluchis and the Pathans).
Persian culture was admired by the Muslims of the Subcontinent and reached
it pinnacle during the Moghul epoch. Our national poet, Allama Iqbal wrote
his first book on "The Development of Metaphysics in Persia and frequently
wrote in Persian. Urdu, the official language of Pakistan, utilizes the
Persian script and there is a discernable Persian influence on the vocabulary.
Contrast this to Turkey where the Latin script is in use, the Shi'ite
population is non-existent and the Kurds, who are of Iranian stock and speak
a West Iranian language related to Persian, are denied many of their basic
rights.
Zachary Latif
* Islamic Republic of Goliath
This is an update to my e-mail exchange with Amotz Asa-El, Editor-in-Chief
of The International Jerusalem Post -- apparently the "Kayhan"
of Jerusalem, as reported in my recent article in the Iranian ["Think
wider"].
As you see at the bottom of the article, I had asked him whether or not
he had ever been to Iran. I was surprised to get a response. The entirety
of his last response was:
No, but my father has [been to Iran]
Amotz Asa-El
From this short and irrelevant response, I speculate that he perhaps
wants to communicate but for some reason he does not. Or, perhaps he enjoys
reading my responses or he wants to get me to talk (in search of an imaginary
"terrorist?") in order to report all this to the notorious Mossad.
Will I be "secretly" assassinated soon?
I hope not -- I am a U.S. citizen, so my life is not as cheap as those
of the Palestinian children in the West Bank and Gaza concentration camps,
although my car's breaks can "accidentally" fail or I could die
mysteriously from "slow food poisoning," you know?!
At any rate, I was tired of this mostly one-way "conversation"
with this apparently deeply racist "journalist." I thought if
I challenged him to an actual debate, either he would actually respond to
my comments or he will stop sending me short and dismissive "responses."
So I wrote:
Dear Mr. Asa-El, [By asking you if you had been to Iran] I meant in
the past few years have you seen Iran? Have you seen the young yet genuine
democracy that your government is trying to sabotage [as it was done to
Mossadegh in 1953]? Your right-winger "enemies" seem to be your
best "friends", because they seem to provide "justification"
for Israel's continued barbarism in the name of "we got bad enemies."
[If your recent Editorial is any indication], I think you are just being
guided by your ideological "journalistic" prejudices. If you
want a debate, of which I think you are incapable (because you have all
the power), let's engage in one. Who knows, maybe if you read Finklestien's
Holocaust Industry or any work by Noam Chomsky your conscience MAY awaken.
Are you interested in a debate? If you do, then let's debate. Are you
a man peace or an ideological "journalist" -- of which I know
of quite a few in Iran? [Thanks to her behavior], Israel has become the
"Islamic Republic" of Goliath. Congratulations for your show
of respect for the victims of Holocaust! If you want to debate, let's do
it. Otherwise, history will be our witness.
A Lover of REAL Peace,
Moji Agha
This last e-mail exchange happened on the 18th of August. As of today
(Sunday August 26, 2001) I have not received any more responses from Mr.
Asa-El. I am not holding my breath.
* Very subtle
Concerning the Persian Gulf, Gulf or Arabian Gulf ["British
support of the Arabs"],
As pointed out there has been a confusion which has not ceased to rise
since I'd the Gulf War in 1990. The main reason as you mention in your article
is that major oil companies since the 1979 revolution were hesitant not
to hurt the sensitivities of their Arab neighbours. It was done in a very
subtle way through diplomatic vocabulary, and passed on by the international
press in general.
President Bush (the father) used to refer to the Persian Gulf War. However
the European press boiled it down to the Gulf War in general. If you remember
in 1990, French President François Mitterands while participating
to the war refused to allow american military aircrafts to land on French
soil. The reason invocated was France's independance towards it's allies.
Eversince President Chirac came to power, France reintegrated NATO.
However during the "Gulf War", or should I say the Second "Persian
Gulf" conflict to be precise, (if we have to take into consideration
the first conflict which opposed Iraq to Iran as opposed to the conflict
that opposed Iraq to the West after Sadaam invaded Kuwait), the French media
indirectly accused American allies for trying to bypass the United Nations
resolution in order to act quickly.
Many French professors with Arab sympathies concluded on the fact that
the term to be used is the Arabian-Persian Gulf. This terminology was taken
for granted by the French press and government of the time, since France
has a long history for its ties with Arab countries and because of its colonial
past. Jean-Jacques Servan Shreiber, French intellectual, was one of the
first to have used the term "Golf Arabo-Persique", during the
first conflict when (France sold arms to both Iran and Iraq).
I often wondered why then the English Channel which the French call "La
Manche" was never called the Franco-English channel. However that is
another debate. According to the laws of the sea, however, I believe Iran
can justify the appelation of the "Persian Gulf" for historical
reasons that go back to Iran's ancient history, and that can be seen on
ancient maps, including Greek ones which go back to the time of Alexander,
but also appeal to the international laws concerning the sea, I believe
that their is a law that insures the fact that based on complex ocean measures-
for which I am not an expert- which exist that Iran can claim that the name
Persian Gulf is the appropriate title.
I must add that the late Shah of Iran had managed to impose the Red Lion,
for Iran's participation at the Red Cross. So even today the Sheer o Khorshid
prevails over the Red Crescent as far as Iran and Islamic country is concerned,
even if the Islamic government in power does not use it for the reasons
we all know. The Sheer o Khorshid or Red Lion, is the official international
emblem of Iranian humanitarian medical support -- something the present
regime has refused to take into account. I am confident that not only the
name Persian Gulf will be reinstated, but also the Iranian flag.
However being of a mixed culture myself, regarding the miserable state
in which the Middle East peace process has turned into, I believe it is
important to keep xenophobic attributions regarding Judaism aside, even
though few writers attacked the Jewish community. Extremism and scars are
very deep on both sides. It is easy to judge from as an outsider, but this
conflict can only come to an end if both parties accept to negotiate again,
based on the Oslo aggreement.
Regards,
Darius Kadivar
* PERRRRRSIAN
Please do not use the word FARSI in place of PERSIAN for the main language
spoken in Persian society. Our language and literature has been known and
respected around the world as Persian language and literature not Farsi.
Farsi is like a new language for Western people.
Also as you know, Iran's ancient civilization and culture has been known
externally as PERSIA. The name Persia from 6th century until a few decades
age was the historical and international name of Iran but the then government
of Persia change it officially to the internal name Iran for some political
reasons, despite the cultural documents of our country had been recorded
around the word with the name Persia not Iran (that is a new name in the
West and very similar to Iraq !)... Neverdeles after more than 65 years
from this change some Persians and non-Persians still use the traditional
terms Persia and Persian in place of Iran and Iranian.
Also they are active to correct of any use of the word Farsi in place
of Persian for language and to protest against the use of THE GULF or ARABIAN
GULF in place of PERSIAN GULF. Please help us! thank you so much for your
attention.
Very truly yours;
Pejman Akbarzadeh
From PERSIA
* Boring?
How could anyone call the The Alchemist ["Lake
Rumi"] boring? ["THE
most boring book"] The novel is so short and quick there is not
time for one to get bored. I received that book as a gift and I read it
pretty quickly.I understand that most of the Paulo Coelho's books are similar
to The Alchemist, but one has to try one of his works at least.
Overall, I believe in mixing up and reading different novels. I recommend
the House of Sand and Fog and The Persian Bride. Both are
about the experiences of Iranians.
The Persian Bride, by James Buchan, is set in Iran in the mid
1970'a in Esfehan and it tells the story of the love affaire between a young
British man name John Pitt and Shirin, the daughter of a colonel in the
Iranian Air Force. The Language is convoluted and confusing, but the story
is touching and memorable.
As for House of Sand and Fog, by Andre Debus III, it is the story
of a conflict between an Iranian colonel and an American woman over a house.
It deals with the difficulties Iranian immigrants go through in America.
Ali-Reza Kasra
* Behesht va Jahanam
In response to "Can't
walk away":
ROOHAM RA FERESTAADAM BE AMERICA'
KE BEENAD AAQEBAT CHE KHAHAD BOOD;
BA'D AZ MODATI ROOHAM BARGASHT VA GOFT,
MAN KHODAM BEHESHT VA JAHANNAM AST.
Afshar
* More power to you
I look forward to reading your column ["Kobra
Khanom"] every day and enjoy your wisdom and wit immensely. I particularly
enjoyed your response to the neanderthal reader who thought sex outside
of marriage is a sin ["Don't
set new rules"].
More power to you, dear lady. There are a lot of open-minded, sane Iranian
women out there that think like you do and thank you for raising your voice
to the fanatics as you do.
Regards,
Mehrak
* Iranians in Reno?
My name is Miriam.
I recently moved here to Reno Nevada, and I feel very alone in the community.
I know Persians are here, (some even own the Atlantis casino), but in my
daily activities it has been nearly impossible to meet other Persians. Can
you help me find any local groups in Reno where I can meet others?
Thank you.
Miriam
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