Thursday
July 12, 2001
* No sense of superiority
It is by now a tired cliché that Iran, since the Revolution of
1979, has regressed fourteen centuries to the beginnings of Islam. Reading
Mr. KG's letter ["Rather
be a Muslim than a Jew or..."], however, I was shocked to find
arguments used during the early phases of Christianity, an even older religion.
He writes:
"Even today in Iran, say a Jew, a Bahai or a Christian were to
recite this magic 'Kalema' and accept Islam as his religion, basically
all his problems are over, finito, capote, no more discriminations."
This is the same prescription used during the fourth century C.E. for
Jews, stating in essence, albeit less diplomatically, that "you may
not live among us as Jews." I could attempt at humor and, as a Jewish
person, thank Mr. KG for his generosity and the generosity shown towards
my ancestors, allowing for us to convert so as to not be discriminated against,
but I will not. (I remember early after the Revolution reading a sad article
by a Jewish intellectual in Iran arguing that according to Isam, Jews have
the right to exist, otherwise, why would Islam proscribe discriminatory
tax laws against a people who did not have the right to live. This is somewhat
similar, albeit less stark, to Polish Jews arguing during World War II that
they had a right to live, otherwise what was the point of Germans building
concentration camps for them.)
At any rate, I am simply amused that, in Mr. KG's unique logic, the "complete
brutality" of Islam while spreading the religion ranks higher, in the
ethical scale, than the Christians of past "enslav[ing] and coloniz[ing]
nations" and the Jews considering others to be "inferior."
(About this last point further below.)
On the positive side, it is a pleasant surprise to see Mr. KG not denying
the existence of religious discrimination in Iran. A good first step by
at least one reader. The next steps involve convincing ourselves that such
discrimination is not morally justified.
As a Jewish person born and raised in Iran, I often approach the coverage
of religion in iranian.com with some trepidation, not knowing whether the
subject, regardless of what it is, will be twisted at least by one letter-writer,
to launch an attack on Judaism and Jews in general. Once again we find
that the original topic (stoning women in Iran) has been utilized by Mr.
KG to "refute" the supposed Jewish doctrine of superiority as
the Chosen People. (This as he claims, fully-capitalized-yet-geneologically-incorrectly,
his own religion to be "THE MOTHER OF ALL RELIGIONS.")
My understanding, and that of other Jewish people I have read or spoken
to, is that the "chosen" essentially refers to a responsibility
we have towards others and to God and not any sense of superiority. Further,
said responsibility is to be dispensed with through good works, worship,
and teaching.
As an aside, Mr. KG is misinformed that conversion to Judaism is not
possible. Such conversions are difficult as they involve significant study
and require, at least in theory, a heartfelt belief. They are also rare
as Judaism, at this stage in history, is not a proselytizing religion.
But these conversions are done, a most famous convert being the late Sammy
Davis, Jr. (Of course, I must admit that, conversion to Judaism in Iran
is likely impossible as such a person would be "vaajeb-ol-qatl"
according to the laws of Sharia.)
Regarding Mr. KG's supposition that there are Palestinians wishing to
convert to Judaism, I, having many Palestinian and Israeli friends, know
of none. I can only imagine that Palestinians, be they Moslems or Christians,
would find such a suggestion absurd and undignified, as do I.
The solution to the Israeli-Palestinian issue should not, and I trust
at the end of the day will not, involve one party giving up their identity
or religion in order to live side-by-side in peace and with dignity and
comfort. This assertion by Mr. KG, among many of his other statements,
demonstrates yet again a tendency by some of our compatriots to create "facts"
to fit their deeply held prejudices; one more obstacle for us, as Iranians,
to collectively overcome.
I. I. Rahmim
* Islam alone
I completely agree with KG on this subject matter ["Rather
be a Muslim than a Jew or..."]. Well said! Without getting into
a debate on how politics has influenced and corrupted the various monotheistic
religions, on pure theological grounds one can argue that Islam alone espouses
equality and denies superiority. Islam alone respects the other two monotheistic
religions, as evidenced by the fact that in practically all religious Islamic
countries Jews and Christians are free to practice their faith.
On the other hand if you look at Catholic and Protestant theology both
religions promote the idea that all those who don't "accept Jesus Christ
as their Savior" are going to hell. In fact this is a central tenet
of these religions. That's why fundamentalist Christians are in a constant
battle proselytizing and attempting to convert non-Christians to their religion,
in an effor to "save" those people
As far as Jews are concerned, Jews are in the unique position of having
turned their religion into a distinct race/ethnicity and thereby using that
religion/race/ethnicity as an instrument of brutal oppression in the Occupied
Territories. For them their religion is an excuse to bulldoze homes, steal
land, and kill innocent people. Just this week over 20 Palestinian homes
were bulldozed; those people are now homeless. Nothing new. But why do
they do it? Because they're "The Chosen Ones", therefore in their
view it is fully within their rights to do anything they want and God will
still be smiling down on them. The concept of human rights does not apply
to "The Chosen Ones".
Islam is truly a beautiful faith. The image problem that Islam has arises
from the fact that it originated among a people who were and to a large
extent still are very culturally and socially backward, ie the Arabs. As
a result they incorporated many of their culturally backward practices into
the religion, despite the fact that many of those practices (eg, hejab)
have little or NOTHING to do with true Islam.
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* Will be held responsible
Let's flood the Iranian regime's web sites with protest mails. Let them
know that they should not only worry about the condemnation in the West,
that we, Iranians living abroad are aoutraged and humiliated by this inhumanity
and barbarism.
Let them know that some day they will be held responsible for this, not
by Allah, by us the Iranian people.
KG
* Reminder
I admire the simplicity of Naghmeh Sohrabi's conclusion ["On the
verge"] that possession of patience is what separates Khatami supporters
from secular progressives who think he's a muppet.
Ms Sohrabi should perhaps be reminded that Khomeini himself was DHL'd
to Tehran from Paris in a package promising reforms. Even former president
Rafsanjani, the pistachio king and indicted killer once feted for his 'reformist'
agenda, now cuts a figure as discredited as it is wealthy.
While prostitutes are beaten and murdered for trying to make a living
in Iran, while swathes of young people remain as stifled by poverty as they
are by sexual repression and women's freedom is measured by their ability
to showjump wearing chadors, Sohrabi is not alone in waiting for history
to stamp its verdict on this 'smiling molla'.
Peyvand Khorsandi
* What you make of it
That "flat eventless passage of time" which requires the patience
you seem to not value, is nothing but a reflection of your inability to
value TIME...YOUR TIME!!!! ["On
the verge"]
The "event" is what you make of it... your election to be "impatient"
will only disrupt the rest of us "patient beings" from patiently
enjoying our life and our work while "waiting".
Haven't you heard, "Life is what happens while you are making other
plans"? What the hell are you waiting for? This ain't no dress rehearsal,
honey.
Rosham Houshmand
* Another Shah Sultan Husain?
Reading Ms. Sohrabi's article "On
the verge" reminds me of my father's advice that "Saalee
ke nekust az bahaarash paydaast (a good spring brings good harvest). I
wonder four years of Mr. Khatami's presidency and his patience has produced
a good harvest. Or does his four year long spring giving us enough harvest,
as little as it could be, to be hopeful of future.
The question is not whether the current Islamic Republic is reformable
or not, as Mr Khatami wants us to believe. The question is whether Mr. Khatami's
"patience" has born us any fruit. Whether he has seen the good
harvest on his patience and if so, whether he sees us intelligent enough
to tell us about it
When I was buying a computer a few months ago, I was told if I wait,
prices will come down. Well, prices did come down, but then the system I
had in mind, which was state of the art then, was outdated. I was told again
that "industry can't wait for. You have to make up your mind sometimes",
that " you must seize the opportunity", that "opportunity
nocks only once".
The question I have for Mr. Khatami is that how much suffering people
need to bare before Mr. Khatami and the "Reformist" fill that
this is the time to act. How may men and women need to be Sang Saared before
Mr. Khatami's time would be over? How many Political prisoners need to be
accused of "prostitution".
Ms. Sohrabi, with much respect that I have for you and of your wonderful
articles, may I ask did you find any limitation or time table on patience
while you were looking at the dictionary? Did your airplane finally arrive
safely? When is the time for us to say please no more Sang Saar? When is
the time for Mr. Khatami to speak up?
"Gar Sabr Koni ze Ghoore Halvaa Saazy": I used to ask my father
has he really seen Halvaa after the Ghoore? he told me I must be smart enough
to see whether that Ghoore was capable of becoming Halvaa.
Does Mr. Khatami's patience imply that the Ghoore he has seen will be
Halvaa, or it implies that he is incompetent. His "Valyie Amre"
used to call him Iran's Gorbachev. Is he right on this or Mr. Khatami is
merely another Shah Sultan Husain?
Javad Chavoshi
* Simply NUTS!
I just think Mr. Siamack Baniameri is simply NUTS! His
articles crack me up! ;)
Happy Spending!
Farzaneh Rouhani
* At least Iran gave me values
Dear Ms. Shady, ["Easy
way out"]
First of all my real name is Sara and I am not a Mr. ["U.S. behind Shah's
fall"]
Secondly, let me say that I am a teenager myself and I have lived in
Iran and I have been amongst those people in Iran who had wanted to act
like Westerners. I do not understand what you mean by "not accepting
responsibility." surely my generation is not responsible for what is
going on in Iran but YES, those people who took away the freedom of my generation
and brought the revolution are responsible for this just as Ms. Rocsana
commented "Where
are the parents?"
Thirdly, what makes you think that we should not blame Britain or U.S.
for this? Don't you ever think that those strong countries are behind all
the miseries the Iranians go through? I mean I am very young to judge this
whole situation but I have read books about Iran and I have heard stories.
Fourthly, referring back to the uniqueness, what makes you think that
the American culture is so unique. Do Americans or other Westerners have
any of the traditions that we have? There are so much traditions that only
Iranians have. It is true that we can get better education in the U.S. but
maybe if Iran was not the way it is today because of those countries our
poor young people in Iran today would have been able to get these opportunities
as well.
Ms. Shady,
I sometimes feel deeply sorry for the young people in Iran. Sorry that
I get to have these opportunities in this country that my friends in Iran
can only wish for, but I would never wish to be somebody other than an Iranian.
The reason that I am in this foreign country today is only because my country
can not provide me a good life. Because my country does not give me freedom,
education and ect. But my country did at least gave me values, traditions
and culture.
Sara
* From our hearts
Hello Sadaf,
I really enjoy reading all of your
stories. Some how it touches me, it seems it talks from our hearts.
I used to go to school with a girl name Azar Kiani from Tehran-Pars in late
1960's. Is there any relation?
Good luck with your writing,
Manijeh
* Very talented
Dear Sadaf,
Just wanted to let you know that I have been enjoying reading your essays on Iranian.com. You
definitely are a very talented writer with many beautiful feelings and emotions
to share with your readers.
Thanks for giving me a window, albeit small, to the beauties of human's
inner feelings. I wish you the best of luck and a whole bunch of happiness.
Take care,
Hamid
* Never out of mind
Music is a matter of taste. It is your perogative to like Googoosh's
music or not. However, some of your other comments abour Googoosh were
so wide off the mark that I could not let them go unanswered.
I am sorry that you are so sick of Googoosh ["The
hell with Googoosh"]. You must have a very low boredom threashhold
because until last summer, she had not released any music or staged any
concerts for 22 years!
She may be trying to cash in now, but dear sir or madam, had you been
prevented from practicing your trade and earning a living for 22 years,
would you not like to make up for lost time? Why should she be criticised
for this?
She stages concerts, the public are free to attend them or not. Thousands
have gone to these shows and I know very few Iranians who did not leave
having had a wonderful time. In fact if anything, Googoosh's performances
have improved since the 70's, her voice is much stronger and the songs
have stood the test of time.
You also seem to contradict yourself, priaisng a singer like Delkash
and then going on about Googoosh's age as if being 54 (which she is not)
is something to be ashamed of and saying that "there are so many
ones who are younger than her..." so we should trade Googoosh in for
a younger model ? What exactly has age got to do with anything?
Googoosh is unique, she is more than a singer and she is the best all
round entertainer that our country has produced. Sorry if you find her
so offensive but you better get used to having her around. She will be
in her 60's, 70's and 80's one day but as the Islamic Repuclic found out,
even when she is out of sight, she is never out of mind!
Marjan
Birmingham, UK
* Archeological finds
Could you please let me know if there are any archeological finds going
on in Iran. If yes could you let me know of a mailing list which would send
regular update on archeological finds in Iran. If no please let me know
where to find on the net details of previous archeological finds in Iran.
Thanks,
Kaizad
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