Friday
June 22, 2001
* Hell on earth
What is taking place in Afghanistan, and the lack of concerted world
community's response, is something that, soon or later, going to weigh heavily
on the vigilant conscious of humanity ["Limbs
of no body"]. The same kind of collective shame that has haunted
souls ever since Holocaust. Not wanting to equate what is going on in Afghanistan
with that of Holocaust, I am at a loss to find another befitting single
defining word for it.
If wonton killing on a massive scale is a prerequisite, it is taking
place in Afghanistan. If setting ablaze entire villeges and towns with its
old and infirmed inhabitants is another, that too has and is taking place.
The last major one being the town of Yekavland, only a few days ago. If
intentionally starving the population or forced immigration/flight due to
fear is yet another criteria, well that too is there on a massive scale.
Let's not delude ourselves, a full blown Holocaust is taking place in
Afghanistan as we are sitting here chatting about finer things in life.
I used to think how could Holocaust be allowed to take place in the 20th
century. Well, I now know how. We as Iranians must keep in mind that the
dark clouds will be one day lifted from our country and that of our historical
/ cultural and I dare to say genetic sister/brother country, Afghanistan.
We then have to live with our collective conscious, and be able to look
at an Afghan in the eye >>>
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Shahriar Zangeneh
* What about tragedies in Iran?
Great essay! Bravo Mohsen. Your article ["Limbs
of no body"] has been very informative and heartbreaking. It is
rather encouraging to see Iranians to be interested in the Afghan's misfortunes.
I do not contradict any of your comments on social, economical or humanitarian
aspects of Afghanistan. I have not seen the movie "Kandahar" as
yet, but sure you must have made a good job of it.
You mentioned a British girl in your report who was making artificial
limbs and arms for the Afghans. Well I do admire that girl who has given
up her easy life, family and friends and gone to offer her outmost helping
hand in a primitive society (as you've put it).
Now what are you going to offer the Afghans?1 Are you ready to give up
your loved ones, your wealth and more wealth to go and help that dying nation?
Will you take on some of those poor kids and raise them under your custody?
Mr. Makhmalbaf,
Do we really have to go so far to shake hands with poverty and death?
Please look around yourself in Iran. Look at your next door neighbor (provided
you don't live in Darakeh / Zaferanieh) who is struggling to buy a kilo
of meet! Why don't you make a documentary about the Iranian national resources
and how it is being sabotaged / mismanaged and under what circumstances
Iranians are coping with poverty.
Will you try and present a true democracy documentary to the Iranians
and their social rights and set a good example of democracy for not only
Afghanistan but also the region. Why not make a documentary of brain drains
that is taking place in Iran and discuss the causes. I suppose not.
All you have mentioned in regards with Afghanistan may well be totally
accepted but it brings great sorrow and grief upon a lot of us that you
have gone miles away to look for desperation.
Finally, I see two sides to your movie and article. Is it because you
are really concerned for the deprived? If so, I do strongly recommend that
you start with presentation of unjust and inhuman treatment of your fellow
country men and women to the world and perhaps you engage yourself in another
revolution, but this time for people and not a god that has not listened
to the cries of the Iranians for the past two decades.
Would you care to express the voice of a BRAVE nation that is crying
out to be heard but everyone seems to be deaf. Would you care to make a
movie with the title "Compulsory religion in Iran" or "Humiliation
of a nation in the name of religion" or "The misfortunes of Iran
under a religious republic"? I suppose not.
If you are after fame and wealth, then I wish you all the best and prosperity
in your future.
Mr. Makhmalbaf, as the English saying goes "Pull the other one".
R. Namvar
* Gross exaggeration
This is in reference to "How
dare you?" by Rana Bahar. Exactly what evidence do you (Rana) have
to say that Mohsen Makhmalbaf belonged to a gang of "fundamental Islamists"?
I was not aware of him being involved in any gang related activities.
Now here is one gross exageration that I have a hard time imagining :
"millions of parents are forced to kill off their own children because
they cannot afford to feed, clothe and educate them; but no, Mohsen Makhmalbaf
is not interested in assisting his own people; why? "
Makhmalbaf is director. Directors make movies and make money from doing
that. So he happens to make a movie about Afghans which happens to help
their cause. Now what exactly do you find evil about that? Would you rather
have him not make a movie about afghans and not let Afghan plight be known?
I think that it's nice that someone is letting the world know about what
is happening to Afghans.
Babak Behnia
* Coming to terms
I think in his autobiographical film "Noon o Goldoon" (Moment
of Innocence), Makhmalbaf has come to terms with his past as an Islamic
revolutionary, showing the naivety of the youth he used to be and showing
his hope that the youth of today will not make the same mistake as him and
opt instead for peaceful way to resolve social problems in Iran.
I have seen many instances in his films where he is clearly, unashamedly
showing the foolishness and uselessness of everything he and fellow revolutionaries
tried to accomplish and the negative results afterwards, for example "Marriage
of the Blessed", "Salaam Cinema", "Nasserdin Shah".
That is, of course my own interpretation. If others see celebration of
Islamic fundamentalism in his films for the past 10-15 years, I would like
to hear specific examples. ["How
dare you?"]
Nakissa
* Not one bit of sense
Rana Bahar's
response to Mohsen Makhmalbaf's "Limbs
of no body" did not make a bit of sense. A diatribe of Mohsen Makhmalbaf,
and an obviously convoluted vision of Iranian revolution, will not do a
damn thing for Afghanistan.
She should not quit her day job either, if she thinks she is an expert
in knowing Iranian men!
Farzin
* Truth hurts
This is response to the article by Setareh Sabety ["Diana
not"]. Just would like to say that your article was very nice and
very true and I hope people can step back and think about this article and
see what is happening around them and to their friends and family and most
importantly to every human being.
Sometimes the truth hurts, but we must face it. So thank you for your
article and keep it up.
Jaf
* Settling old accounts
A young princess takes her own life in a hotel in London. Nobody knows
why and probably nobody will ever know why. The interesting outcome is that
everybody wants to make sense out of this senseless tragic event.
People go to far lengths in order to force-feed their educated opinions
or to settle some old accounts ["Diana
not"]. History, geopolitics, pop culture, even the nose-jobs of
the royal family come into play.
My conclusion out of this tragedy is that we are some incredible nation!
Parviz Hamrang
* Talking from my heart
I read the article "Diana
not" written by Ms. Setareh Sabety today, and it was the first
time I saw an Iranian lady pointing to an important point so deeply. It
was like she was talking from my heart.
I absolutely agree with the writer. I respect Leila Pahlavi and am sorry
for her family , but they never took a serious step to help Iranians that
need so much help abroad. I am proud that we have such ladies (like Ms.
Sabety) that think beyond materialism (specially out of Iran).
An Iranian woman from U.S.
* Khoda biamorzatesh
After reading some of the comments ["Diana
not"] about Leila Pahlavi's death (khoda biamorzatesh) I felt compelled
to write a few words of my own. Before her death I had no idea who the princess
was, no idea what her name was, and no idea what she looked like.
A few days after her death I read an article about her death in iranian.com
["Leila's
last ride"], the next day at college a friend of mine asked me
if I had heard about the death, I replied yes, but I could tell that my
friend was upset, so I asked her to show me pictures of Leila, she was shocked,
my friend comes from a very stict monarchist family and it was strange for
her that I did not know what "our" princess looked like.
When I first saw Leila's (khoda biamorzatesh) photo, my iranian "bitchy"
side came out, and I said to my friend "vaay cheghadr laaghare, mesle
choobe" then at that moment I realized that I'm talking about a dead
person, and I apologised inside myself. Although I did not know much about
Leila (khoda biamorzatesh) and her family from a very young age I had always
witnessed my mother crying whenever she saw the Shah (khoda biamorzatesh)
on TV or a picture of the royal family.
Sometimes I wish that I was around when the Shah and his family ruled
Iran, for an Iranian who was born after the revolution, I do not know much
about our countries past. For all of those people who think Leila (khoda
biamorzatesh) was a "rich brat" or that she was no princess Diana
(khoda biamorzatesh) stop and think for a minute, we are all individual
people and none of us should be compared to another, maybe Leila (khoda
biamorzatesh) did things that we did not hear about.
I think it is best for all of us to take away the lable of 'princess'
from Leila (khoda biamorzatesh) and think of her as a fellow Iranian, who
passed away. Let us think of her as a part of our family. Leila was born
a princess, it was not a choice for her, put yourself in her shoes, and
think how you would feel if people were talking about you and your family
in this way.
I am not saying the Pahlavis have no fault, I can not comment on this
factor as I mentioned before I do not have enough knowledge on the Pahlavis
to comment. It is not right to talk about one who has passed away in an
ill-mannered way no matter how much one disliked that person. I think we
should all just let Leila rest in peace.
Nazanin
* Childish dreams
I've been following the articles on the site about Leila Pahlavi as well
as the comments in the letters section, and maybe I just missed it, but
nobody seemed to notice the timing significance of Leila Pahlavis suicide.
hmmm... Didn't Iran make history earlier that weekend?!
Of course I'm not going to dispute that being forced into exile and the
loss of ones father is not enough to cause severe depression, but why now?
After 22 years? As someone who's been away from home for two years now,
I would like to think that I get over this homesick feeling and the depression
associated with it in the next 4-5 years!
The thought of a suicide attempt 20 years from now is scary. But then
again, the monarchists would argue that I'm different: I'm not born a Pahlavi!
I'm not royal! How could I compare my situation with the Princess?
And monarchists are right, I am different. And thank God!! I expect that
I would fit in with my new surroundings in no time. But do you see what's
going on here? In a twisted way, the Pahlavis are expected to be more depressed
than that of the average Joe. You expect them to so "Iran-Doost",
so incredibly nationalistic and above all, you expect them to lead the way
to yet another revolution!
Of course they're going to be depressed, one of them has already committed
suicide, and when? The day after the election! The election that Reza Pahlavi
had invested so much of his energy, boycotting it. A low turn out would
have brought so much hope and joy in the Pahlavi families and their followers.
But that didn't happen.
The Islamic Republic (or the people or whatever) may have forced the
Pahlavis into exile 22 years ago, but you are the ones killing them NOW!
With your overpowering expectations and your childish dreams. Let go of
the past, so you could survive the future. And besides I'm sure Reza Pahlavi
would prefer if he would work on his garden and play with his kids anyway.
Reza
* Root of the problem
Despite always looking down our nose at other nationalities in our region
such as Arabs, Turks, Afghans and Pakistanis, when are we Iranians going
to accept that we are geographically, socially, culturally and religiously
far far closer to the races and nations named than to Americans, the British,
the Swiss etc? And isn't this denial the root of most of our country's problems
?
Let me explain. In 1978 - 1979, Iran became almost unique in history
in that it's revolution was lead not just by the working class or the poor
but by the middle classes and the well to do whose wealth was directly created
by the reforms of the Shah and his father.
The middle class, having usually studied in the universities of the USA
and Europe ( in 1979 there were 55,000 Iranian students studying in the
USA ) returned home and joined the ranks of the disaffected revolutionaries.
Why ? Because they said -- that having lived in Europe and the US they saw
the level of corruption in the regime, they saw the oppression and the lack
of political freedom etc. and wanted a fairer, humane and less corrupt regime
in Iran on the basis of what they had experienced abroad.
In other words instead of looking around our country and comparing Iran
with the likes of Turkey, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, the Gulf States,
Saudi, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt, Libya, the people were aspiring to
have the laws and politics of Switzerland, Britain, France and the US in
Iran. In my opinion, this is the tragedy of our country.
Let's look at some of these countries. Even today, 22 years on, not one
of them has a system of government that is better than what we had 22 years
ago. Its a pity that Iranians thought only they were lacking a perfect government
in the 70's ! Yes, there was repression. Yes there was corruption. But my
friends, look around us. At least we had social freedoms and prosperity
in our country that people in neighboring countries STILL can only dream
about.
Women in some of the Gulf States still do not have the vote. Women in
Iran, after 22 years, are voting in droves for Khatami because since his
election, they are allowed to show an extra strand of hair or two or are
no longer stopped if they are walking with a member of the opposite sex
in the street! Turkey and Egypt suffer from massive corruption and repression.
Pakistan is ruled by the military and the less said about Afghanistan and
Iraq the better. And further a field, Syria is all but a monarchy in which
presidency is passed on from father to son and the people live in massive
poverty and squalor.
I repeat, things may not have been perfect in the Iran of the 70's, but
all too often huge economic and social achievements of the Pahlavi period
are brushed aside due to the undoubted political restrictions that existed
but not only in Iran but in ALL the countries of that region. These restrictions
STILL exist in that region and it is a pity that only Iranians felt so hard
done by and in striving for an unrealistic goal, threw out the economic
benefits and social achievements of the 60's and 70's.
As the English say, it was like throwing out the baby with the bath water.
Hamid
England
* Intellectualizing your hatred
Hmmm. Look at the letter section of the last few days (June
18, June
19). Have you ever seen more hatred, bitterness and divisions surrounding
a funeral? At a time when a parent is grieving we have letters starting
with "No one likes anyone who uses a death to prove a socio-political
point." But I'll do it anyway since "maybe Leila herself would
want her death to be put in perspective" ["Diana
not"]
Are these the intellectuals and partisans who are hoping to bring about
democracy to Iran? Or are they the reason we have ended up with this Islamic
Republic in the first place. I wrote an article ["Boycott
or perish"] trying to divert attention from personal attacks and
target what I believe is the source of this bitterness namely the class
warfare that can be read in between every line of these letters.
The identity crisis caused by the clash of Semitic and Aryan value systems,
and the messiah complex of the typical Iranian. Based on the replies I received,
a Chinese proverb came to mind: "You point your finger to the moon,
the fool stares at you finger". The only intelligent replies I received
from Iranians were from Laleh
Khalili and Reza
Ahmadi and neither even attempted to start a dialogue on the question
of the article "How do we unite" and my conclusion "by confronting
these issue?s that divide us".
Their focus went on the boycott message itself (which I published on
iranian.com after the election and for the record only). They ignored the
message on what I believe to be the fundamental divisions in our society
in favor stating their current political opinion. What has been more interesting
though, and why I am writing this letter, is that all the correspondence
I received from "farangiha", all four of them, homed in straight
onto the points I presented as important and wanted me to elaborate.
How is it that foreigners search for an Iranian malaise in our religion
/ history / philosophy of thought and our esteemed intellectuals focus on
nose jobs and materialism (issues that by the way are pertinent to all societies
in the world not just ours.)
A reporter interviewed me last week from Asia Week on the contemporary
issues of Iran and he was more interested in class struggle and the building
of a new national identity than any of the political rhetoric of reforms,
referendum, freedom etc. The foreign mind certainly seems to work differently.
Ladies and Gentlemen,
You are wasting your time re-iterating what political or social camp
you belong to. You are wasting the nations time intellectualizing your hatreds
in ever so articulate and eloquent grammar. Confronting the issues that
are not even up for discussion on iranian.com [Class struggle, Arab (Semitic)
values versus Iranian ones, rejection of a patriarchal society] will yield
better results.
Amir Khosrow Sheibany
* Next step: Unite
Dear Persians,
We are talking now about Leila Pahlavi for a while now. I see many different
opinions about her and her family. Some pro some con. Some letters where
very nice and respectfull and some really hate mail and personal anger.
But all our attention is a better future for Iran and our culture. If
the Pahlavi era was good or not dosen't matter now. The importand is what
did we learn from it? What is going to be our next step? Why hate each other's
opinions when we can lern from each other?
Let's gather our knowlege and teach the new and still my generation a
lesson. Open your eyes and see every Persian as your brother and sister.
Let's unite. If we want to build our Iran, there is no palce for hate and
ignorance. Yes Iran is not at its best now, but let's build it with what
we have.
All I want to say: Pahlavi or Khomaini, I'm a Persian and love it now
and forever. DO YOU???
FS
* Touches the soul
Dr. Hossein Bagherzadeh's poem "Refugee"
is an absolutely great work. His poem captures, observes and touches the
readers soul. Not only is it expressive but it's simplicity attracts attentions
of those not having experienced living a life as a refugee, exile and first
generation migrants. Here is my feelings put on paper >>>
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Sheema Kalbasi
* Your hip? Who cares?
I know you are fair and give equal opportunity for expressions. Please
note taht as Iranian we work so hard to change stereotypes and try to diminish
the perception that our women are vain and not concerned with important
issues. Who gives a **** about her nose or her hips? Not that I have any
problem with mine.
People like her give Iranian women a bad reputation ["Bigger
is better"]. Most of us Iranian women are educated, intelligent
and for the most part beautiful because we take care of ourselves. However,
I do not know anyone who questions why someone's nose is small or where
was the "nose job" done?
She sounds like a shallow person who lacks confidence resulting from
inner beauty and obviously hangs out with people worthy of her company.
Please dedicate your pages to the writings that will benefit human kind
and help improve the Iranian women's image. This child lacks character and
substance.
Azam
* Crimes after 1980
I have checked ur site and all you have posted are anti-Shah photos of
1979-1999.
Would you also be fair and loyal to the people and post all those killed
people in Iran between 1980-2001 as well?!
In 1980 the Islamic government hung150,000 young people between the age
of 12-up. Before the killing they raped the young women and then took them
to pregnancy test then they shot them.
The Iranian regime got paid for their shooting. Would you also post all
these crimes in your web site? That would be good for us to judge then.
Thanks,
Jazmin Yas
* Snowball
A GENERAL OBSERVATION: The reason what has happened in Iran has happend
is because the world MUST become aware of Islam and what it has become today,
especially in countries such as Iran and Afghanestan. The citizens of the
world will have to eliminate and eradicate every remaining sign of Islam,
but first they must get disgusted enough.
From what I see in the letters printed here and what I hear in the radio
shows all people talk about is freedom and how the damn mollas have taken
it from them... so it seems like it's starting to happen at least in Iran.
Little by little, but it will happen , like a snowball rolling down the
mountain the disgust the world is going to feel towards Islam is going to
get bigger and bigger .
That is why there is a new faith called Bahai faith. It is here to enlighten
the world and wake it up from it's slumber and take it out of the slimy
swamps that today's Islam has put us in for too long.
To all the Moslems: Look what your Islam has done for you. It seems the
hole you dug for yourself has gotten so big and you are all struggling to
get out now , but you can't. It seems " ye go.. khordeed and toosh
geer kardin" it seems "booyeh gandesh oomadeh bala"
I do not speak for the Bahai faith. My opinions are my own. and when
I refer to Islam I speak of the Islam that man has twisted and made up thru
out time, not the spoken words of God in the original Koran.
Nooshin. N
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