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Re: How do you define God

Believing in God or not is a personal choice and issue, as long as you don't try to impose it on others. The matter of discussion is not why some belive in God and hate Islam. The only point here is, the ideology of terror and fear and lust, called Islam, being imposed on Iranians, brutally for the second time. The only reason we're targetting Islam, is because after 30 years, we've understood that the only language most devote muslims understand is fear. They have brought their brutality to us and we will treat them with even harsher brutality, there will be a payback time.

How do you define God? In

How do you define God?
In other words, what promotes you to beleive in him/her and how did you find him/her and gain knowledge of his existence?
--for the sake of facilitating matters let us for the moment refer to God as (M).

To: Arezoo

Dear Arezoo

You're right about what moghols did to iran and other lands. However, we're not dealing with their brutality and ideology today. We're dealing with the islamic brutality in Iran. The real islam is the one practiced by the taliban. In Iran they are trying to do that. Separating public spaces, universities, beaches, etc... in male and female ares and all other nonesenses are in Quarn. You're the one who needs to read 'all pages' of that book. Islam is equivalent to blood and death and this is something you would never accept (because you have been brainwashed by it)

Who's fooling who?

I believe in God

I am a Islam-Hater as you calle it. I  despise everything about it. It has nothing to do with God. I believe in the supreme force, the creator. There's no god in islam, there's only lust, terror, shekam va zire shekam and above all the promise of a paradise that the lustful arabs and arabo-muslims love (full of virgins) Islam is the ideology of the camel fuckers,and that's all about it, this is the reality the entire world is getting to know.

These arabo-muslim iranians, do not deserve any respect.

What are you doing here?

You islamists, muslims, that so much defend Islam and the murderous ideology of it, what the hell are you doing in the west?

Why didn't you stay in Iran? wasn't enough that you destroyed our nation? If you love the arab ali, muhamad and all their goddamn tribe, why on earth did you leave Iran?  Iran is in the hand of your kind, the arabo-muslims, so why don't you join them there, or is it because they haven't given you your share?

Your nasty arabic names, the ugly arabic language, the murderous crap you call quran and all of you are just unwanted and unwelcome 'guests' in Iran and in the west. Go back to where the child molester, horney arab of muhammed came from, go bakc to the camels. You're the dirt and cancer of my country.

Question, please respond...

Do any of you Islam-haters (due to Khomeini and co. hating) believe in God??
* I'm not Muslim.

little more for those so in love with Islam!

Murder

Tabari IX:69 "Killing disbelievers is a small matter to us."
Tabari VIII:141 "The battle cry of the Companions of the Messenger of Allah that night was: ‘Kill! Kill! Kill!'"
Bukhari:V5B59N512 "The Prophet had their men killed, their woman and children taken captive."
Ishaq:489 "Do the bastards think that we are not their equal in fighting? We are men who think that there is no shame in killing."
Qur'an 2:191 "And kill them wherever you find and catch them. Drive them out from where they have turned you out; for Al-Fitnah (polytheism, disbelief, oppression) is worse than slaughter."
Qur'an 33:60 "Truly, if the Hypocrites stir up sedition, if the agitators in the City do not desist, We shall urge you to go against them and set you over them. Then they will not be able to stay as your neighbors for any length of time. They shall have a curse on them. Whenever they are found, they shall be seized and slain without mercy - a fierce slaughter - murdered, a horrible murdering."
Bukhari:V4B52N270 "Allah's Messenger said, ‘Who is ready to kill Ashraf? He has said injurious things about Allah and His Apostle.' Maslama got up saying, ‘Would you like me to kill him?' The Prophet proclaimed, ‘Yes.' Maslama said, ‘Then allow me to lie so that I will be able to deceive him.' Muhammad said, ‘You may do so.'"
Ishaq:368 "Ka'b's body was left prostrate [humbled in submission]. After his fall, all of the Nadir Jews were brought low. Sword in hand we cut him down. By Muhammad's order we were sent secretly by night. Brother killing brother. We lured him to his death with guile [cunning or deviousness]. Traveling by night, bold as lions, we went into his home. We made him taste death with our deadly swords. We sought victory for the religion of the Prophet."
Tabari VII:97
Ishaq:368 "We carried Ka'b's head and brought it to Muhammad during the night. We saluted him as he stood praying and told him that we had slain Allah's enemy. When he came out to us we cast Ashraf's head before his feet. The Prophet praised Allah that the poet had been assassinated and complimented us on the good work we had done in Allah's Cause. Our attack upon Allah's enemy cast terror among the Jews, and there was no Jew in Medina who did not fear for his life.'"
Tabari VII:97 "The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared, ‘Kill any Jew who falls under your power.'"
Ishaq:369 "Thereupon Mas'ud leapt upon Sunayna, one of the Jewish merchants with whom his family had social and commercial relations and killed him. The Muslim's brother complained, saying, ‘Why did you kill him? You have much fat in you belly from his charity.' Mas'ud answered, ‘By Allah, had Muhammad ordered me to murder you, my brother, I would have cut off your head.' Wherein the brother said, ‘Any religion that can bring you to this is indeed wonderful!' And he accepted Islam."
Bukhari:V1B1N6 "Just issue orders to kill every Jew in the country."
Ishaq: 676 "‘You obey a stranger who encourages you to murder for booty. You are greedy men. Is there no honor among you?' Upon hearing those lines Muhammad said, ‘Will no one rid me of this woman?' Umayr, a zealous Muslim, decided to execute the Prophet's wishes. That very night he crept into the writer's home while she lay sleeping surrounded by her young children. There was one at her breast. Umayr removed the suckling babe and then plunged his sword into the poet. The next morning in the mosque, Muhammad, who was aware of the assassination, said, ‘You have helped Allah and His Apostle.' Umayr said. ‘She had five sons; should I feel guilty?' ‘No,' the Prophet answered. ‘Killing her was as meaningless as two goats butting heads.'"
Bukhari:V1B11N626 "The Prophet said, ‘No prayer is harder for the hypocrites than the Fajr. If they knew the reward they would come to (the mosque) even if they had to crawl. I decided to order a man to lead the prayer and then take a flame to burn all those who had not left their houses for the prayer, burning them alive inside their homes.'"
Tabari VIII:178
Ishaq:550 "Muhammad ordered that certain men should be assassinated even if they were found behind the curtains of the Ka'aba. Among them was Abdallah bin Sa'd [the Qur'an's one and only scribe]. The reason that Allah's Messenger ordered that he should be slain was because he had become a Muslim and used to write down Qur'an Revelation. Then he apostatized [rejected Islam]."
Tabari VIII:179 "Abdallah bin Sa'd fled to Uthman, his brother, who after hiding him, finally surrendered him to the Prophet. Uthman asked for clemency. Muhammad did not respond, remaining silent for a long time. Muhammad explained, ‘By Allah, I kept silent so that one of you might go up to him and cut off his head!' One of the Ansar said, ‘Why didn't you give me a sign?' Allah's Apostle replied, ‘A prophet does not kill by pointing.'"
Tabari VIII:179
Ishaq:550 "Among those who Muhammad ordered killed was Abdallah bin Khatal. The Messenger ordered him to be slain because while he was a Muslim, Muhammad had sent him to collect the zakat tax with an Ansar and a slave of his.... His girls used to sing a satire about Muhammad so the Prophet ordered that they should be killed along with Abdullah. He was killed by Sa'id and Abu Barzah. The two shared in his blood. One of the singing girls was killed quickly but the other fled. So Umar caused his horse to trample the one who fled, killing her."
Ishaq:551 "Another victim was Huwayrith. He used to insult Muhammad in Mecca. Huwayrith was put to death by Ali. The Messenger ordered Miqyas' assassination only because he had killed an Ansar who had killed his brother by mistake and then became a renegade by rejecting Islam."
Tabari VIII:180 "Also among those eliminated were Ikrimah bin Abu Jahl and Sarah, a slave of one of Abd Muttalib's sons. She taunted Muhammad while he was in Mecca."
Tabari VIII:181 "The Messenger ordered six men and four women to be assassinated. One of these women was Hind, who swore allegiance and became a Muslim."
Bukhari:V4B52N281 "They took Khubaib to Mecca after the battle of Badr. He had killed Harith, a Meccan nobleman. The Quraysh gathered to kill him in retribution.... Khubaib wanted to offer two Rakat (prayers). They allowed this and he said, ‘O Allah, kill them all with no exception.' He then recited the poetic verse: ‘I'm being martyred as a Muslim. I do not mind how I am killed in Allah's Cause. For my killing is for Allah's Sake. If Allah wishes, He will bless the amputated parts of my torn body.' Then the son of Harith [the man Khubaib had murdered] killed him."
Ishaq:597 "When the Apostle returned to Medina after his raid on Ta'if, word spread that he had killed some of the men who had satirized and insulted him. The poets who were left spread in all directions."
Tabari IX:76 "Malik has reported to me that you were the first from Himyar to embrace Islam and that you have killed infidels, so rejoice at your good fortune."
Tabari IX:121 "When it was feasible for me, I struck him with my sword and killed him. Then I departed, leaving his women to throw themselves at him. When I returned to the Prophet, he asked, ‘Is your mission accomplished?' ‘Yes. I have killed him.'"
Ishaq:308
Tabari VII:65 "When the Apostle was in Safra, Nadr was assassinated. When Muhammad reached Irq al-Zabyah he killed Uqbah. When the Prophet ordered him to be killed, Uqbah said, ‘Who will look after my children, Muhammad?' "Hellfire,' the Apostle replied, and he was killed."
Tabari VII:85 "Muhammad killed many Quraysh polytheists at Badr."
Tabari VII:99 "In this year, the killing of Abu Rafi the Jew took place. The Messenger sent some Ansar under the command of Abd Allah and Abd Allah against the Jew. Abu Rafi used to injure and wrong the Prophet.... Abd Allah said to the others, ‘Stay where you are, and I will go and ingratiate myself with the doorkeeper to gain entrance.'"
Tabari VII:100 "Every time I opened a door, I shut it behind me from the inside, saying to myself, ‘If they become aware, they will not have time to stop me from killing him.' When I reached Rafi, he was in a dark room with his family. As I did not know where he was in the room, I said, ‘O Abu Rafi.' When he replied, I proceeded toward the voice and gave him a blow with my sword. He shouted and I came back, pretending to be a helper. I said, ‘O Abu,' changing the tone of my voice. He asked me, ‘I don't know who came to strike me with his sword.' Then I drove my sword into his belly and pushed it forcibly till it touched the bone. I hit him again and covered him with wounds, but I could not kill him, so I thrust the point of my sword into his stomach until it came out through his back. At that, I knew that I had killed him [in front of his wife and children]. I came out, filled with puzzlement, and went towards a ladder in order to get down but I fell into a moonlit night and sprained my foot. I bound it with my turban and moved on. I came to my companions and said, ‘By Allah, I will not leave till I hear the wailing of their women.' So, I did not move till I heard them crying for the Jewish merchant. I said, ‘Deliverance! Allah has killed Abu Rafi.' I got up, feeling no ailment, and proceeded till we came upon the Prophet and informed him."
Tabari VII:101 "The Khazraj asked the Prophet for permission to kill Sallam Huqayq, who was in Khaybar. He granted this."
Ishaq:482 "One of the favors which Allah conferred upon his Prophet was that these two tribes of the Ansar, the Aws and the Khazraj, used to vie with one another like stallions to carry out the will of Muhammad. The Aws did not do anything which benefited him without the Khazraj saying, ‘By Allah they will not gain superiority over us in Islam in the eyes of the Messenger by doing this.' And they would not cease until they had done something similar. Thus when the Aws killed Ka'b Ashraf on account of his hostility to Muhammad, the Khazraj conferred to find a man comparable to Ka'b in hostility and called to mind Sallam Huqayq in Khaybar. They asked the Prophet for permission to kill him, and it was granted."
Tabari VII:101
Ishaq:483 "Sallam's wife came out and we told her that we were Arabs in search of supplies. When we entered, we bolted the door on her so she gave a shout to warn him of our presence. We rushed upon him with our swords as he lay in his bed. He took his pillow and tried to fend us off. Abd Allah thrust his sword into his stomach and transfixed him while he was shouting, ‘Enough! Enough!' At once we went out but Abd Allah had bad eyesight, and he fell off the stairway, bruising his leg or arm. ‘How shall we know that the enemy of Allah is dead?' one of us asked. ‘I will go and look,' one replied. He set off and mingled with the people. He said, ‘I found him with the men of the Jews, and with his wife, who had a lamp in her hand, peering into his face. She said, ‘By the God of the Jews, he is dead.' I never heard any more pleasing words than these. We went to the Messenger of Allah and told him that we had killed the enemy of Allah. We disagreed in his presence about the killing of Sallam, each of us claiming to have done it. The Prophet said, ‘Bring me your swords.' We did and he looked at them. He said, ‘This sword of Abd Allah killed him. I can see the marks left by bones on it.'"
Ishaq:483 "Allah, what a fine band you have, one willing to kill Sallam and Ashraf! We went with sharp swords, like fighting lions. We came upon their homes and made them drink death with our swift-slaying swords. Looking for the victory of our Prophet's religion, we ignored every risk."
Tabari VII:112
Ishaq:372 "When a blind Jew became aware of the presence of the Messenger and the Muslims he rose and threw dust in their faces, saying, ‘Even if you are a prophet, I will not allow you into my garden!' I was told that he took a handful of dirt and said, ‘If only I knew that I would not hit anyone else, Muhammad, I would throw it in your face.' Sa'd rushed in and hit him on the head with his bow and split the Jew's head open."
Ishaq:403 "Allah killed twenty-two polytheists at Uhud."
Tabari VII:147 "Amr was sent by Muhammad to kill Abu Sufyan [the Quraysh leader and merchant]. The Prophet said, ‘Go to Abu Sufyan and kill him.' ...When I entered Mecca I had a dagger ready to slay anybody who laid hold of me. My Ansar companion asked, ‘Should we start by circumambulating the Ka'aba seven times and praying two rak'ahs?' I said, ‘I know the Meccans better than you do.' But he kept pestering me until in the end we went to the Ka'aba, circumambulated it seven times, and prayed."
Tabari VII:148 "One of the Meccans recognized me and shouted, ‘That is Amr!' They rushed after us, saying, ‘By Allah, Amr has not come here for any good purpose! He has come for some evil reason.' Amr had been a cutthroat and a desperado before accepting Islam."
Tabari VII:148 "Amr said, ‘Let's wait here until the cry has died down. They are sure to hunt for us tonight and tomorrow. I was still in the cave when Uthman bin Malik came riding proudly on his horse. He reached the entrance to our cave and I said to my Ansar companion, ‘If he sees us, he will tell everyone in Mecca.' So I went out and stabbed him with my dagger. He gave a shout and the Meccans came to him while I went back to my hiding place. Finding him at the point of death, they said, ‘By Allah we knew that Amr came for no good purpose.' The death of their companion impeded their search for us, for they carried him away."
Tabari VII:149 "I went into a cave with my bow and arrows. While I was in it, a one-eyed man from the Banu Bakr came in driving some sheep. He said, ‘Who's there?' I said [lied], ‘I'm a Banu Bakr.' ‘So am I.' Then he laid down next to me, and raised his voice in song: ‘I will not believe in the faith of the Muslims.' I said, ‘You will soon see!' Before long the Bedouin went to sleep and started snoring. So I killed him in the most dreadful way that anybody has ever killed. I leant over him, struck the end of my bow into his good eye, and thrust it down until it came out the back of his neck. After that I rushed out like a wild beast and took flight. I came to the village of Naqi and recognized two Meccan spies. I called for them to surrender. They said no so I shot and arrow and killed one, and then I tied the other up and took him to Muhammad."
Tabari VII:150 "I had tied my prisoner's thumbs together with my bowstring. The Messenger of Allah looked at him and laughed so that his back teeth could be seen. Then he questioned me and I told him what had happened. ‘Well done!' he said, and prayed for me to be blessed."
Ishaq:434 "Amr and an Ansari waited until they were asleep. Then Amr killed them, thinking that he had taken vengeance for the Muslims who had been slain. When he came to the Messenger, he told him what had happened. The Prophet said, ‘You have killed men for whom I shall have to pay blood-money.'"
Tabari VIII:22 "Hassan was with the women and children. A Jew passed by and began to walk around his settlement. There was no one to protect them while the Apostle and his Companions were at the Meccans' throats. So I said: ‘Hassan, this Jew is walking around. I fear he will point out our weakness while the Muslims are too busy to attend to us. So go down to him and kill him."
Tabari VIII:22
Ishaq:458 "‘Allah forgive you, daughter of Abd al-Muttalib,' Hassan said. ‘You know that I am not the man to do it.' When he said that to me I saw that nothing could be expected from him. I girded myself, took a club, and, having gone down from the fortress to the man, I struck him with the club until I killed him. When I had finished with him, I returned to the fortress and said, ‘Hassan, go down to him and strip him - only his being a man kept me from taking his clothes.' Hassan replied, ‘I have no need for his spoils.'"
Ishaq:464 "The Jews were made to come down, and Allah's Messenger imprisoned them. Then the Prophet went out into the marketplace of Medina, and he had trenches dug in it. He sent for the Jewish men and had them beheaded in those trenches. They were brought out to him in batches. They numbered 800 to 900 boys and men."
Tabari VIII:40 "The Messenger commanded that furrows should be dug in the ground for the Qurayza. Then he sat down. Ali and Zubayr began cutting off their heads in his presence."
Tabari VIII:38 "The Messenger of Allah commanded that all of the Jewish men and boys who had reached puberty should be beheaded. Then the Prophet divided the wealth, wives, and children of the Banu Qurayza Jews among the Muslims."
Tabari VIII:90 "Abu Basir went out with his companions. When they stopped to rest he asked one of them, ‘Is this sword of yours sharp?' ‘Yes,' he replied. ‘May I look at it?' Basir asked. ‘If you wish.' Basir unsheathed the sword, attacked the man, and killed him. The other Muslim ran back to the Messenger, saying, ‘Your Companion has killed my friend.' While the man was still there, Abu Basir appeared girded with the sword. He halted before Muhammad and said, ‘Messenger, your obligation has been discharged.'"

Arezu.....you need to read the book you defend!

Peaceful Muslims

Qur'an 48:11 "The desert Arabs who lagged behind [in fighting] will say to you (Muhammad): ‘We were engaged in (looking after) our flocks and our families.' We have prepared for them a Blazing Fire!"
Qur'an 48:17 "There is no blame for the blind, nor is it a sin for the lame, nor on one ill if he joins not in the fighting. But he who retreats, (Allah) will punish him with a painful doom."
Qur'an 4:77 "Have you not seen those to whom it was said: Withhold your hands from fighting, perform the prayer and pay the zakat. But when orders for fighting were issued, a party of them feared men as they ought to have feared Allah. They say: ‘Our Lord, why have You ordained fighting for us, why have You made war compulsory?'"
Qur'an 4:78 "Wherever you are, death will find you, even if you are in towers built up strong and high! If some good befalls, they say, ‘This is from Allah;' but if evil, they say, ‘This is from you (Muhammad).' Say: ‘All things are from Allah.' So what is wrong with these people, that they fail to understand these simple words?"
Qur'an 4:88 "What is the matter with you that you are divided about the Hypocrites? Allah has cast them back (causing their disbelief). Would you guide those whom Allah has thrown out of the Way? For those whom Allah has thrown aside and led astray, never shall they find the Way."
Qur'an 4:89 "They wish that you would reject Faith, as they have, and thus be on the same footing: Do not be friends with them until they leave their homes in Allah's Cause. But [and this is a hell of a but...] if they turn back from Islam, becoming renegades, seize them and kill them wherever you find them."
Qur'an 47:20 "Those who believe say, ‘How is it that no surah was sent down (for us)?' But when a categorical [decisive or uncompromising] surah is revealed, and fighting and war (Jihad, holy fighting in Allah's Cause) are ordained, you will see those with diseased hearts looking at you (Muhammad) fainting unto death. Therefore woe unto them!"
Qur'an 47:21 "Were they to obey, showing their obedience in modest speech, after the matter (of preparation for Jihad) had been determined for them, it would have been better. Is it to be expected that if you were put in authority and given command that you would do mischief in the land and sever your ties of kinship. Such men are cursed by Allah. He has made them deaf, dumb and blind."
Qur'an 4:97 "Verily, when angels take the souls of those who die wronging themselves (by staying home), they say: ‘In what (plight or engagement) were you?' They reply: ‘Weak on the earth.' Such men will find their abode in Hell, an evil resort!"
Qur'an 4:8 "Except those who are feeble - men, women and children - who cannot devise a plan nor have the means or power. These are those whom Allah is likely to forgive."
Qur'an 9:16 "Do you think you will get away before Allah knows who among you have striven hard and fought?"
Qur'an 9:38 "Believers, what is the matter with you, that when you are asked to march forth in the Cause of Allah (i.e., Jihad) you cling to the earth? Do you prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? Unless you march, He will afflict and punish you with a painful torture, and put others in your place. But you cannot harm Him in the least."
Qur'an 9:43 "May Allah forgive you (Muhammad). Why did you grant them leave (for remaining behind; you should have persisted as regards to your order to them to proceed on Jihad), until you had known the liars."
Qur'an 9:44 "Those who believe in Allah and the Last Day do not ask for an exemption from fighting with your goods and persons. And Allah knows well those who do their duty."
Qur'an 9:45 "Only those ask for exemption (from Jihad) who believe not in Allah and whose hearts are in doubt, so that they are tossed to and fro. If they had intended to march out to fight, they would certainly have made some preparation and readied their equipment; but Allah was averse to their being sent forth; so He made them lag behind. ‘Sit you among those who sit.' If they had marched with you, they would not have added to your (strength) but only (made for) discord, spying and sowing sedition. There would have been some in your midst who would have listened to them. But Allah knows well those [peace-loving Muslims] who do wrong and are wicked."
Qur'an 9:48 "They had plotted sedition before, and upset matters for you until the Decree of Allah [to fight] became manifest, much to their disgust. Among them are many who say: ‘Grant me exemption to stay back at home (exempted from Jihad). And do not tempt me [with promises of booty].' Have they not fallen into temptation already? Indeed, Hell surrounds them."
Qur'an 9:67 "The Hypocrites enjoin what is forbidden, and forbid what Islam commands. They withhold their hands (from spending in Allah's Cause [Jihad]). They have forgotten Allah so He has forgotten them. Verily the Hypocrites are oblivious, rebellious and perverse."
Qur'an 9:68 "Allah has promised the Hypocrites, both men and women, and the disbelievers the Fire of Hell for their abode: Therein shall they dwell. It will suffice them. On them is the curse of Allah, and an enduring punishment, a lasting torment."
Qur'an 9:74 "The Hypocrites swear by Allah that they said nothing, but indeed they uttered blasphemy, and they disbelieved after Surrender (accepting Islam). They meditated a plot (to murder Prophet Muhammad) which they were unable to carry out. The reason for this revenge of theirs was the bounty [of booty] with which Allah and His Messenger had enriched them! If they repent, it will be best for them; but if they turn back, Allah will punish them with a grievous torment in this life and in the Hereafter."
Qur'an 9:75 "Some of you made a deal with Allah, saying, ‘If You give us booty we shall pay You the tax.' But when He gave them booty, they became greedy and refused to pay. As a consequence of breaking their promises, Allah filled their hearts with hypocrisy which will last forever."
Qur'an 9:77 "He punished them by putting hypocrisy in their hearts until the Day whereon they shall meet Him, because they lied to Allah and failed to perform as promised. Allah knows their secrets. Those who slander and taunt the believers who pay the zakat (for Allah's Cause) voluntarily and throw ridicule on them, scoffing, Allah will throw back their taunts, and they shall have a painful doom. Whether you ask for their forgiveness or not, (their sin is unforgivable). If you ask seventy times for their forgiveness Allah will not forgive them."
Qur'an 9:81 "Those who stayed behind rejoiced in their inaction behind the back of the Messenger. They hated to strive and fight with their goods and lives in the Cause of Allah. They said, ‘Go not forth in the heat.' Say, ‘The fire of Hell is fiercer in heat.' If only they could understand! So let them laugh a little, for they will weep much as a reward for what they did. If Allah brings you back (from the campaign) to a party of the hypocrites and they ask to go out to fight, say: ‘You shall never go out to fight with me against a foe. You were content sitting inactive on the first occasion. So sit with the useless men who lag behind.' Do not pray for any of them (Muhammad) that die, nor stand at his grave. They rejected Allah and disbelieved His Messenger. They died in a state of perverse rebellion."
Qur'an 9:85 "And let not their wealth or (following in) sons dazzle you or excite your admiration. Allah's plan is to punish them with these things in this world, and to make sure their souls perish while they are unbelievers. When a surah comes down enjoining them to believe in Allah and to strive hard and fight along with His Messenger, those with wealth and influence among them ask you for exemption from Jihad. They prefer to be with (their women), who remain behind (at home). Their hearts are sealed and so they understand not."
Qur'an 9:88 "The Messenger and those who believe him, strive hard and fight jihad with their wealth and lives (in Allah's Cause)."
Qur'an 9:90 "And there were among the wandering desert Arabs men who made excuses and came to claim exemption (from the battle). Those who lied to Allah and His Messenger sat at home. Soon will a grievous torment seize them."
Qur'an 9:93 "The (complaint) is against those who claim exemption [from fighting] while they are rich. They prefer to stay with the (women) who remain behind (at home). Allah has sealed their hearts. They are content to be useless. Say: ‘Present no excuses: we shall not believe you.' It is your actions that Allah and His Messenger will observe. They will swear to you by Allah, when you return hoping that you might leave them alone. So turn away from them, for they are unclean, an abomination, and Hell is their dwelling-place, a fitting recompense for them."
Qur'an 9:97 "The Arabs of the desert are the worst in unbelief and hypocrisy, and most fitted to be in ignorance of the command which Allah hath sent down to His Messenger. Some of the Bedouins look upon their payments (for Allah's Cause) as a fine and wish disasters to fall on you (so that they might not have to pay). Yet on them be the disaster of evil."
Qur'an 9:101 "Among the desert Arabs are hypocrites. They, like the people of Medina are obstinate in hypocrisy. We know them. Twice shall We punish them, and in addition they shall be brought back to a horrible torment."
Qur'an 9:120 "It is not fitting for the people of Medina and the Bedouin Arabs to refuse to follow Allah's Messenger (Muhammad when fighting in Allah's Cause), nor to prefer their own lives to his life. They suffer neither thirst nor fatigue in Allah's Cause, nor do they go without reward. They do not take steps to raise the anger of disbelievers, nor inflict any injury upon an enemy without it being written to their credit as a deed of righteousness."
Tabari IX:13 "Muhammad turned to see Umm, a pregnant woman, who said, ‘O Messenger! Kill those [Muslims] who flee from you as you kill those who fight you, for they deserve death. Here is my dagger. If any come near me I will rip them up and slit open their belly with it.'"
Tabari IX:49 "One of the hypocrites, feeling an aversion to battle, being skeptical of the truth, and spreading false rumors about Muhammad, said that they should not go out in the heat. With regard to him, Allah revealed: ‘They said, "Do not march out in the heat." Say, "The heat of hell is far more intense."'"
Ishaq:602 "Jadd told Muhammad, ‘Will you allow me to stay behind and not tempt me? Everyone knows that I am strongly addicted to women. I'm afraid that I'll see Byzantine women and will not be able to control myself.' The Apostle gave him permission to remain behind. It was about him that Allah sent down: ‘There are some who say: "Give me leave to stay behind and do not tempt me." Surely they have fallen into temptation already and hell encompasses these unbelievers.' (9:49) It was not that he feared the temptation from the Byzantine women. The temptation he had fallen into was greater in that he had hung back from the Apostle and sought to please himself rather than Muhammad. Verily hell awaits him."
Ishaq:603 "One of the estranged ones said to another, ‘Don't go out to fight in this heat.' He disliked strenuous war, doubted the truth, and created misgivings about the Apostle. So Allah sent down regarding them, ‘And they said, "Do not go out in this heat." Say, "The fires of hell are hotter. Let them laugh a little now for they will weep a great deal later as a reward for what they did.'" (5:82)
Ishaq:603 "Some Bedouins came to apologize for not going into battle, but Allah would not accept their excuses."
Ishaq:246 "The surah of the Hypocrites came down because some men sent secret messages to the Nadir Jews when the Apostle besieged them. So Allah sent down, "Have you not considered the Hypocrites who say to their brethren, the People of the Book [Jews], ‘We shall never obey anyone against you. If you are attacked and driven out we will help you. Allah bears witness that they are liars.'"
Qur'an 59:11 "Have you not observed the Hypocrites saying to their unbelieving brethren among the People of the Book, ‘If you are expelled [from your homes by the Muslims], we will go with you?' But Allah is witness that they are liars. If the Jews are expelled, never will the Hypocrites go with them; if they are attacked, they will not help them defend themselves. In truth you [jihadist Muslims] are more fearful and awful (than they) because they are afraid of you. This is a result of the terror (sent) by Allah. They are men devoid of understanding."
Qur'an 59:14 "They are a divided people devoid of sense. There is a grievous punishment awaiting them. Satan tells them not to believe so both of them will end up in Hell."
Qur'an 8:20 "O you who believe! Obey Allah and His Messenger. Do not turn away from him when you hear him speak. Do not be like those who say, ‘We hear,' but do not listen. Those who do not obey are the worst of beasts, the vilest of animals in the sight of Allah. They are deaf and dumb. Those who do not understand are senseless. If Allah had seen any good in them, He would have made them listen. And even if He had made them listen, they would but have turned away and declined submission."
Qur'an 8:47 "Be not as those who came from their homes full of their own importance, trying to turn men away from [fighting] in Allah's Cause. Allah is encircling them. Satan made their acts seem alluring to them, and said: ‘No one can conquer you this day, while I am near you.' But when the two armies came in sight of each other, he turned on his heels, and said: ‘Lo! I am not with you. I see what you cannot. Verily, I fear Allah: for Allah is severe in punishment.'"
Qur'an 8:49 "When the hypocrites and those in whose hearts is a disease said: ‘The religion has deceived and misled them.'"
Qur'an 8:55 "Verily the worst of creatures, the vilest of beasts in the sight of Allah are those who reject Him and will not believe. They are those with whom you make an agreement, but they break their covenant every time, and they keep not their duty [to fight]."
Qur'an 61:2 "O Muslims, why say one thing and do another? Grievously odious and hateful is it in the sight of Allah that you say that which you do not. Truly Allah loves those who fight in His Cause in a battle array, as if they were a solid cemented structure."
Qur'an 63:1 "When the Hypocrites come to you they say, ‘We bear witness that you are indeed the Messenger of Allah.' Allah knows you are His Messenger, and Allah bears witness the Hypocrites are indeed liars."
Qur'an 63:2 "They have made their oaths a screen, thus they obstruct (men) from the Path of Allah: truly evil are their deeds. That is because they believed, then they rejected Faith: So a seal was set on their hearts."
Qur'an 63:4 "When you look at the Hypocrites, their bodies please you; and when they speak, you listen to their words. They are pieces of wood propped up. They think every cry is against them. They are the enemies; so beware of them. The curse of Allah is on them! Allah will destroy them. How are they deluded and perverted?"
Qur'an 63:6 "It is equal to them whether you ask forgiveness or not. Allah will never forgive them. Allah does not forgive the transgressing people."
Qur'an 63:7 "The Hypocrites are the ones who say, ‘Spend nothing on those who are with Allah's Messenger so that they will desert him.' But to Allah belong the treasures of the earth; but the Hypocrites understand not. They say, ‘If we return to Medina, surely the more honorable (element) will expel the meaner (i.e., Muhammad).'"
Ishaq:372 ""When he went out, Abd Allah bin Ubayy [the man who had advised against leaving town] came back with 300 men, saying, ‘We do not know why we should get ourselves killed here.' So he went back to Medina with the Hypocrites and doubters who followed him. Abd Allah bin Amr said, ‘Allah curse you, enemies of Allah. Allah will let us manage without you.'"
Ishaq:391 "The day of Uhud was a day of trial, calamity, and heart-searching on which Allah tested the believers. He put the hypocrites on trial, those who professed faith with their tongue and hid unbelief in their hearts. And it was a day in which Allah honored with martyrdom those whom He willed."
Qur'an 3:141 "Did you think that you would enter Paradise while Allah does not know those of you who really fights hard (in His Cause) and remains steadfast? You wished for death before you met it (in the field of battle). Now [that] you have seen it with your own eyes, (you flinch!)" [Another translation reads:] "Did you think you would enter Paradise without Allah testing those of you who fight in His Cause?"
Ishaq:393 "Then Allah said: ‘Obey Allah and the Apostle and maybe you will attain mercy. Reproaching those who disobeyed the Apostle in the orders he gave them that day [to fight] He said, ‘Vie with one another for forgiveness from your Lord and for the Garden of Bliss prepared for those who fear, a dwelling for those who obey Me and obey My Apostle.... They have wronged themselves by disobedience. But they must not continue disobeying Me for I have prohibited the worship of any but Myself."
Ishaq:398 "Show them that you listen to them and ask them for their help. Thereby make the religion of Islam agreeable to them. And when you are resolved in the matter of religion concerning fighting your enemy you will have the advantage."
Ishaq:393 "Allah loves the steadfast [fighters]. How many a prophet has death in battle befallen and how many multitudes with him? They did not show weakness toward their enemies and were not humiliated when they suffered in the fight for Allah and their religion. That is steadfastness, and Allah loves the steadfast."
Ishaq:395 "Practice your religion as they did, and be not renegades, turning back on your heels, retreating. Those who retreat and turn away from the battle are losers in this world and in the next."
Qur'an 3:152 "Allah did indeed fulfill His promise to you when you, with His permission were about to annihilate your enemy, until you flinched and fell to disputing about the order, and disobeyed it after He brought you in sight (of the booty) which you covet. Among you are some that hanker after this world and some that desire the Hereafter."
Ishaq:396 "I promise to give you victory over your enemy. You routed them with the sword, killing them by My permission. Then you deserted Me and disobeyed My order and disputed about the order of My Prophet. He told the archers to stay put. But after I showed you what you were desiring, the Meccan wives and property, you desired the spoil and abandoned the order to fight. Only those who fought for religion did not transgress in going after the booty. Allah reproached the hypocrites for running away from their Prophet and paying no heed when he called to them."
Qur'an 3:154 "Say: ‘Even if you had remained in your houses, those ordained to be slaughtered would have gone forth to the places where they would be slain."
Qur'an 3:155 "Those who turned back the day the two armies clashed, Satan caused them to backslide, fail in their duty, and run away from the battlefield."
Qur'an 3:156 "O you who believe! Be not like the Unbelievers, who say of their brethren when they are traveling through the land engaged in raids and fighting: ‘If they had stayed with us, they would not have died or been slain.' This is that Allah may make it anguish, a cause of sighs and regrets. It is Allah that gives Life and causes Death by His power, as He wishes. And if you are slain, or die, in Allah's Cause [as a martyr], pardon from Allah and mercy are far better than all they could amass."
Qur'an 3:165 "What! When a single disaster smites you, although you smote with one twice as great, do you say: ‘Whence is this?' Say: ‘It is from yourselves.' What you suffered on the day the armies clashed was by permission of Allah; that He might know the true believers."
Qur'an 3:167 "And that He might know the Hypocrites, unto whom it was said: ‘Come, fight in Allah's Cause, or (at least) drive (the foe from your city).' They said: ‘Had we known how to fight, we should certainly have followed you.' They were that day nearer to Unbelief than to Faith, saying with their lips what was not in their hearts but Allah hath full knowledge of all they conceal."
Qur'an 3:168 "Those who, while they sat at home, said (of their brethren slain fighting for the cause of Allah), while they themselves sit (at home at ease): ‘If only they had listened to us they would not have been killed.' Say: ‘Avert death from your own selves, if you speak the truth.'"
Ishaq:399 "You had smitten your enemy with a double dose of torment at Badr, slaying them and taking prisoners. Yet you disobeyed your Prophet's orders and brought the defeat of Uhud on yourselves. And it was said to them: ‘Come, fight for Allah's sake.' The hypocrites stopped fighting for Allah's sake, eager to survive, fleeing death. So Allah said to His Prophet to make the Muslims wish to fight and to desire battle: ‘And do not think that those who were killed for Allah's sake are dead. Nay, they are alive with their Lord being nourished, glad with the bounty Allah has brought them and rejoicing for those who have not yet joined them that they have nothing to fear or grieve over."
Qur'an 33:11 "In that situation the Believers were sorely tried and shaken as by a tremendous shaking. And behold! The Hypocrites and those in whose hearts is a disease said: ‘Allah and His Messenger promised us nothing but delusion!' [Or...] "Allah and His Messenger promised only to deceive us."
Qur'an 33:13 "Behold! A party among them said: ‘Men of Yathrib! You cannot stand (the attack); therefore go back!' And a band of them asked for leave of the Prophet, saying, ‘Our houses are bare and exposed,' though they were not exposed. They intended nothing but to run away." [In a second translation:] "And verily they had already sworn to Allah that they would not turn their backs (to a foe). An oath to Allah must be adhered to. Say: ‘Running away will not profit you if you are running away from death or slaughter; and even if (you escape), no more than a brief (respite) will you be allowed!'" [A third translation:] "Say: Flight will not avail you if you flee from death, killing, or slaughter. In that case you will not be allowed to enjoy yourselves but a little while. Say, ‘Who will screen you, saving you from Allah if he intends to harm and injure you?'"
Qur'an 33:18 "Verily Allah already knows those among you who keep back and those who say to their brethren, ‘Come along to us,' but come not to the fight in the stress of battle except for just a little while. Being covetous and niggardly with respect to you; but when fear comes, you will see them looking to you, their eyes rolling like one swooning because of death. But when the fear is gone they smite you with sharp tongues, covetous of goods, in their greed for wealth (from the spoil). Such men have no faith, and so Allah has made their deeds of none effect: and that is easy for Allah."
Qur'an 33:20 "They...wish the allied clans were (wandering) in the desert among the Bedouins. But if they were in your midst, they would only battle or fight with them for moment."
Qur'an 33:60 "Truly, if the Hypocrites, those in whose hearts is a disease, those who stir up sedition, the agitators in the City, do not desist, We shall urge you (Muhammad) to go against them and set you over them. Then they will not be able to stay as your neighbors for any length of time. They shall have a curse on them. Whenever they are found, they shall be seized and slain without mercy - a fierce slaughter - murdered, a horrible murdering. (Such was) the practice (approved) of Allah among those who lived before. No change wilt thou find in the practice of Allah."
Qur'an 4:137 "Those who believe, then reject faith, then believe and reject faith, and go on increasing in unbelief, Allah will never pardon them, nor guide them. To the Hypocrites give the glad tidings that there is for them a grievous penalty, a painful doom."
Qur'an 4:140 "You have been commanded in the Book that whenever you hear Verses of Allah denied, derided, ridiculed, or mocked [as is the only reasoned response], do not sit with them and engage them in this talk or you will be no different from them. Indeed, Allah will collect the Hypocrites and Infidels together and put them all in Hell."
Qur'an 4:142 "The Hypocrites try to deceive Allah, but it is He Who deceives them. When they stand up performing the prayer, they stand sluggishly, to be seen, but they are mindful of Allah but little. (They are) distracted in mind even in the midst of it, swaying between this and that, one group or the another. Those who Allah causes to go astray and err will not find a way. Believers, take not for friends unbelieving infidels rather than believers [because rational thought is contagious]. Do you want to offer Allah an open proof against you? The Hypocrites will be in the lowest depths of the Fire."

Dear Arezu, Muhammad was a pedophile

I have knowledge before attacking your Islam, stop manipulating, go read your Quran and learn the fact that your prophet Muhammad was a pedophile, fucking a 9 years old as his wife. The reason we hate Akhoonds is because they follow your Mamali cult....

To Aryo Barzan

Aryo Says:
“..We also had many incompetent and sell-out leaders like Khomeini, Ahmadi Nejaad, Ghajaar kings and others.”

I agree with some of what you say, and think this is a very good time for this article. However you are very unfair to put Khomeini in the above paragraph with Ghajar kings. I also find it too early to judge Ahmadinejad.
I am not saying that because I am a Muslim, as I am not. I say that because past several years through reading many articles of accredited American reporters or analysts such as Seymour Hersh, Michael Scheuer (CIA veteran), … it has become clear to me that despite their mistakes, Khomeini, Khamenei, and a number of other leaders of IRI have been very instrumental in preventing total destruction of Iran.
For example I now know how involved US was in starting Iraq war against Iran. I also know how involved US was/is in empowering Sunni extremism in Iran’s neighborhood (Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc.).
Besides those political pressures Iran has been under tremendous economic pressures as you are aware, and US hasn’t been able to break Iran yet!

ای کاش

ای کاش به همان اندازه که هموطنان به اسلام حمله میکنند، به انگلیس، دولت ایران و سایر مسئولان انقلاب نیز حمله میکردند.

فراموش کردید که اون شاه سالی یکی دوبار میرفت این حرم و آن حرم برای تظاهر بدین؟

دشمن شما اسلام نیست، انگلیس است.

بر پدرو مادرش لعنت که از دائی جان ناپلئون یادآوری کند.
خود آن کتاب با پول سفارت انگلیس چاپ شد....

Before you attack a religion make sure you have knowledge

Unfortunately, so many commentators are making very ignorant remarks about Islam which demonstrates they really have no clue about this religion. They don't like the Mullahs, and automatically associate what they do as being equivalent to Islamic teachings. False!! Go and read the teachings of Islam like a scholar before making ridiculous and ignorant comments.

Religion has always been used by nations as a political tool to manipulate the masses to serve the interest of those in power. Just take a look at the U.S. every leader, even candidates who are running for President have to demonstrate that they have strong belief in Christianity, and their faith is guiding them, else no way in hell will they ever get elected into office. Have you ever listened to the presidential debates, have you noticed how many questions are asked from each candidate about their faith, their values, how many times they go to Church etc. In fact if they don't get the vote of the hard core Middle America, the heartland of the U.S. where the Evangelical Christians are they have zippo chance of being elected as President. There goes the secular U.S.A. Do you think a Jew, a Muslim or an atheist will ever get elected into power? Bet not! The kiss of death for Al Gore was that he picked Lieberman as his Vice President! Yes, even in the U.S.A. where the strong Jewish Lobby has such a strong influence in the U.S. political system - Christianity still matters for the majority of the 300 million population of this country.

However, while President Bush and others speak about Christianity with tears in their eyes, and speak of the Lord and walk with the Bible under their arms they wage illegal wars on nations and kill millions of innocent people with absolutely no remorse. Do you think they are following the teachings of Jesus Christ? Absolutely not!! Is this what Jesus has taught President Bush, the born again Christian? Absolutely not!

How about the Jewish State of Israel? They believe Israel is the land of the Jews? Look at how they are treating the Palestinians - like animals!! Look at the hundreds of children ages 6 to 11 that are in Israeli jails!! Look at the olive groves and many innocent lives which have been destroyed by the State of Israel for over 60 years!! Look at what they did to Lebanon, and the use of depleted uranium. Do you think they are following the teachings of Abraham and Moses!! Absolutely not!!

So don't blame religion, blame the people who abuse religion and use the name of their religion in vain to serve their own interest.

By the way just for some who speak about how awful Islam has been for PERSIA, for your information, it was during the period of the Islamic conquest that went as far as Rome, that Persian History was spread across the world. Yes, as shocking as it may be for many of you to gulp this down, go read your history. If it was not for Islam Persian History would have been written by the Greeks who hated our guts!!

By the way you speak about the invasion of the Arabs in spreading Islam to Persia and the brutality that was used, but you don't mention the Mongol invasion. The Mongols shattered Iran, and destroyed it to its bare bones. Again go read history to understand the impact of the Mongol invasion on Iran!! Then come back and do a real analysis of the Mongols vs. the Arab invasion of Persia?

You can hate a religion, you can hate Islam but you better speak from a point of knowledge as opposed to simple childish saber-ratelling, otherwise any intelligent, well read and well informed person will not take you seriously!

Abd-Allah

Bunyip,

Thanks for making those points, but FYI, the word ABD comes from Ebadat = Warship. So that's exactly the point I wanted Hajy Barzan to fess up to. Indeed Allah was a Bot, and Mohammad did in fact copy Torat and Enjil to come up with Ghoran. These are things that Haj Agha Barzan doesn't want Iranis to find out, this is exactly why they keep their 12th Imam Mahdi in Jokaran Well and guard him with their lives (You know that's their main source of income, because as long as the 12th one is absent, they are the representatives of Allah on earth.)

For more on this subject read Ahmad Kasravi's books, unfortunately Kasravi had the same fate as Theo van Gogh (29 Stab Wounds) by one of the brothers who had very Pure Islamic Heritage !!

Also for those of you who are interested to exercise your minds, start pondering about the Philosophies of Haj, Sojdeh toward Makkeh, Zakat, Jezieh, Death Penalty for Ertedad, Jihad, taking married women as your sex slaves, etc. If you want to learn more about all this and more facts about Mohammadism, check out Faithfreedom.org

They use quotes from Ghoran itself to show you how evil this cult really is. Read and think, "A mind is aterrible thing to waste", specially on 1400 yr old evil cults that warship a bot named Allah.

Ever think how stupid it really is to have a BLACK STONE as the holliest object in the world?

Just clearing a few misundrestandings

I Do apologize for the intrusion

Normally I am not the sort of person to comment on other people's opinion about my article However I felt that I had to clear a few misunderstandings here.

First of All I am NOT a Muslim. as you should have guessed from my name I a a Zartoshty Iranian. Further more after 10 years of study about the history on our country I believe that know a lot about the history of Iran and Zartosht. certainly much more that many of you .

Secondly The above logo was chosen by my good friend J.J who was kind enough to publish my article and it was as shocking to me as it was to you.

Thirdly I Live in UK and I have never even seen Ghom

and finally this article was not about defending Fundamentalist Muslims but to stop you from falling into the same trap.

However you seem to have proven my point, as indeed you are following exactly the same path as the Islamisms did 28 years ago. Now, that gives me a lot of concerns about the future of our country and the integrity of Persian identity.

You Guys do not seem to get it at all

I Am sorry guys but I do not know what is your problem .

Could someone please show me one place in this article where the author has taken the side of Islamists

In fact he was the first one to condemn them and their act

Now if you are not man enough to take a criticism about your behavior then this is mostly your problem

and indeed you are the next wave of radical extrimists in makeing

I am sorry, but I have been there and seen it all before. your are following the exact steps of the Islamic fundamentalism did in 1978 1979 and with such behavior I am afraid Iranian nationalism would be condemned to the same faith as Islamism

I love my name

I am not sure about the guys' comment that the Iranians don't like Arabic names, as if someone says the Americans don't like Latin names. The fact that Iran is an international country for her size and location makes it much more diverse than you guys trying to portray it. I bet you anything that most of you guys haven't even seen Iran. I also agree with Ali that you can't say that 1400 years something was being stick behind all your ancestors behind (and according to you guys still is) and the "Great Iranian Nation" didn't do anything about it. Actually Ali said it best, Iranians chose the religion and change it to what matched to the Iranian culture. This is really simple and don't know why some of you can't even try to get it. Go to Iran and see the people and how much they love their religion. I don't care for any religions but I know for a fact that Iranians are religious people. Now let me go and rest, you go and learn something before smelling up this page. (man you some of you are embarrassing, very childish and Nazi like!)

I guess you have to agree

I agree with the end part of the article that we can't dismiss our Islamic culture. By the way I wish Shah was the government of Iran but he is not and Islamic Republic is there today. And I rather have Islamic Republic than many other weird regimes or LA opposition. that's my choice, hope you get yours. By the way don't be too bitter about Iranian way of living and culture that is Islam, most of you guys live in the west, bereen haaletuno bekonin va abejotuno bokhorin, shomarro beh siyaasat che?

Islamic barbarian assault has wounded our souls

Most Iranians don’t wish to name their children with Islamic names. We have always had this resentment. Where is this resentment coming from? It comes from the fact that those Bedouin Islamists savages tortured, maimed, beheaded, lashed, hanged, raped, burned, and enslaved our Iranian ancestors. This awful, sad, and barbarian assault wounded our ancestor’s heart. More importantly, it infected our souls.

Iranians still carry this resentment. Islamic Dictatorship Republic of Iran still forces Iranian to stay away from Iranian names. These Islamists still treating Iranians as they forefathers (Bedouin Islamists savages) did. What do we have in Iran today? Torture, maiming, beheading, lashing, public hanging, rape, burning, and enslaving our men and women. What a shame this cult is!

Iranians and Arabs both must get rid of Islam

This cult has made Middle East to a bloody and backward place.

Iranians and Arabs both must get rid of Islam.

To Anon 327

Mohammad's father's name was "Abdallah, (meaning bandeye Khoda) because name of one of the idols in Kaaba was allah. Kaaba was a place of worship for
bedouin Arabs, full of different idols, representing different tribes and/ or
beliefs. Allah was the main idol (god). When Mohammad thought of his new
religion, he was heavily influenced by the Judaism and to a lesser extent by
Christianity and Zoroastrian. His first choice for a number one place of
worship for the Moslems was Jerusalem.
He had to abandon this thought because the Arab chieftain of the time preferred
Mekka and their Kaaba. And the rest is history.

Many of the islamic customs moslem practice to this date, have their roots
in pagan Arab beliefs. For example:

- the practice of killing female infants at birth, was changed to covering
them up from head to toe (ie hiding them away), depriving them of all their
human rights and dignity. Now tell me, if you are a female, which is worse? All
this bullshit that female form can lead males astray is just that. If males
cannot control their lustfulness, whose fault is it? Certainly not the females.

- Why alleged criminals are maimed or executed
before they are given a chance to prove their innocence? Because Arabs just
believe in hearsay, as long as three so-called wise men testify to someone's
guilt, does not matter how biased these wise men are. So where is the islamic justice?

- Why is it OK to kill those who do not believe in
your faith? Arabs don't like to be told that there are other facts and truths
around the world, therefore, believers of other religions are not to be trusted
and preferably killed.

Arabs invaded Iran
14 centuries ago. But ever since then we gradually but surely preserved our
Iranian identity and were about to totally get rid of them, when 29 years ago
the "snakes" of "Zahhak" came back to life yet again. This
may have put our freedom back slightly, but the light at the end of this dark
tunnel is getting bigger and brighter at a very fast pace!

Stop insulting Iranians

Iranians have been muslims for 14 centuries, and anyone who says that Iranians were 'forced' to keep a religion they didn't really want for so many centuries, or that they 'pretented' to be muslims to save their behinds from violence or so to pay less taxes...etc is just making the most humiliating insults to Iranians! I mean, what nation of weak cowards and hypocrtist victims would accept 14 centuries of oppression by its neighbours and pretend that it likes it?!! If that's your interpretation of history and you still dare calling yourselves proud Iranians, then there must be something wrong with you.

The fact of the matter is that Iranians rejected the arabs and fought against them with everything they had, but willingly adopted Islam as an ideology, blended it with their own persian culture and created what we know today as the Iranian culture. They were neither 'ignorant' about their own history nor did they accept Islam because they were afraid of the Arab's swords.

Classic - LOL!

I might only add that I hope he and his arabzadeh brothers look up in the sky for a special delivery!!!

Haj Agha Barzan is an Honest Little Khaen

Haj Agha Barzan,

I must say Hajy Barzan, you are very honest. At least you show your true colors at the topof your article, that's exactly where your loyalties are (Saudi Ay-rabia).

By the way Haj Agha, I wanted to ask you, if Allah is the name of the real god and Mohammad was the first who thought of warshiping the one true god (LOL), why is it that his father's name was "ABD_ALAH" which means Warship is for Allah? Quick, answer the phone Haja Agha, it might be some Ay-rab sheikh who wants to Sigheh your sister.

By the way, in case you didn't catch it, Sayed Ali Geda was the nick name other Rozeh Khoons gave to your current Imam back when he used to sing Ziaratnameh in Haram of Reza (The 8th Ay-rab) for 5 rials.

First of all let me say: Haj

First of all let me say:

Haj Agha Barzan or Agha Zadeh or what ever your name is Hojatoleslam, how is the whether in Ghom?

I don't want to respond to all your jiberish, but one point I can't leave untouched. You talk about our Islamic (Mohammadist) heritage !! What heritage, the savage bedouines not only did NOT create any heritage in any of the nations they took over, they destroyed cultures any where they went. As a matter of fact we're lucky to have the Cultural Bozorgmard "Ferdosi" or we would be speaking Ay-rab like the rest of these poor countries that completely lost their heritage (Syria, Iraq, Egypt, Lybia, and ...). Get the picture Hojatoleslam?

The Ay-rab Cult infected our beloved culture and people with the help of other Khaens "Salman Farsi, Afshin" and then was re-invigrated by the "Satan Zadeh, Sheikh Hendi, that's Imam Rahel to you guys in Ghom."

Get off your PC in Ghom, I think one of your pedophile buddies is waiting to Sigheh a 9 year old, they need your services Haj Agha. By the way, computers are made by Kafirs, ask your spiritual leader "Sayed Ali Geda" if it's OK for you to touch the keyboard or do you have to Tayamom with some Ay-rab khak !!

Re: Ali

"admire the justice of Hazrate Ali"???? What a laugh. You praise this brute, just because you were fed with lies since your childhood AND you don't have the guts to turn your back to that brute.

//www.derafsh-kaviyani.com/english/ali666.htm...

jamshid

Islam out of Iran; That is the only solution

Enough harm by Islam been done to Iran and Iranians.

Islam and Iran are not compatible
Islam and human rights are not compatible
Islam and democracy are not compatible
Islam and freedom are not compatible
Islam and equality are not compatible
Islam and science are not compatible
Islam and civil society are not compatible
Islam and independent judiciary are not compatible
Islam and International law are not compatible

Islam does not allow Iranians to be Iranian in their own country. Islamists are genociding Iranians.

Islam out of Iran; That is the only solution left.

Ali, hassan and his like were killers and haters of Iranians!!!

They love their rapists, because they don't know their own history. If they know what these arab scum did in the city of Istakhr to their ancestors they would not be worshiping them.

Too late my mate

People with a preferance for pre-Islamic history or western way of life cannot be as guilty as Islamist criminals.

Whatever you call or divide them, no group of them is comparable with "Islamist" category. This would be a credit to the criminal IRI and its Islamic charia as a banal as two other groups.

Comparing Iranian people, with "wrong or even perverse" identity, with anti-Iranian Islamists is an insult to all Iranians.

Islamists, who are the the same Muslims as you or any outsider, are trash of those who imposed Islam on Iran and now are destroying the country. What is their similar weight with pre-Islamic kings or Ghajar-Dynasty?

Your typical preach is a tactical and "moderate" Islamist attempt to diviate your audience from the plague of the IRI, but it is too late, people already know such a trick.

Your first premise is

Your first premise is totally wrong. Who says that there has been a radical shift in the way people feel about Emam Ali or Emam Hossein?!! People have certainly been disenchanted with the Islamic Republic, but just take a trip to Mashhad to witness how millions of Iranians, young and old, from all walks of life, still love and respect their Emams. Millions of Iranians still admire the justice of Hazrate Ali and the bravery of Emam Hossein.

The ideology of doom!

They are the ones issuing fatwas

They are the ones killing innocent people who just gave their opinion about btheir religion (the Dutch filme maker for instance)

They are the ones, taking my country to doom.  

You're saying that the two 'groups' have to respect each other's ideology. Well, to your information, the other gruoup (islamo-fascists) have imposed their 'ideology' on the rest of us by means of terror and brainwashing. Second, there's no way a normal human being would understand what you call 'ideology' which is nothing but the harsh way of life of the deserts of arabia some 1500 years ago. What else should we 'understand'?Our reaction is due to the extreme harsh measures against our Iranian identity in Iran (which some tend to confuse with the shiism identity)  There's nothing we should understand about their 'islam', as we have been there and done that, already.  They believe their islam is sacred (all muslims do) well, to me and people like me, my Persian identity is sacred too. They started this one and yes, we are the ones ending it.

Thanks lord, by now most of us around the world know what kind of trash their ideology is all about. Even if we the 'normal' Iranians understand their backwardness, they still have to convince the world's none-muslim population, whom has also gotten to know them better, day by day.  Islam the religion of doom.

Sepas