Iranian of the Day

ما اکنون باید

ما اکنون باید منتظر دستگیری میر حسین و خاتمی و کروبی
باشیم زیرا امروز سید علی در قوطی کرم اتهامات برای خفه
کردن جنبش مردم را باز کرد

Abtahi is making a case for indictment of Mousavi and Khatami and the rest of the influencial reformers.

Mousavi and Khatami better plan for the worst case senario.

Kayah also accused both Khatami and Mousavi as traitors.

This one is for Q

Q: "If you are part of the 85% of the Iranians who voted in the elections, you did not vote "against" the revolution. That's not the question here at all."

I didn't know there also was a referendum for or against Islamic Repulic! There are many seculars, etc who voted against the system by using IR ballot boxes against them and that is why there was such a big difference in number of voters and the outcome in comparison to 2005 and you know it well Q! and add those agianst the regime who still did not vote and numbers add uo rapidly.

You have no data to back up your claim that 85% want IR

//iranian.com/main/2009/apr/get-out-and-vote-time 

I am sure you also have seen the video of those who eventually spoke up and said: Independence, Freedom, Iranian Republic

Unless you too , just like the regime consider them as "Kahs o Khashak"

Irane Azad,

I don't think you know much about Iran.
The Green movement has crediblity with a wide crossection of Iranians because it claims to uphold the ideals '79 revolution. All the major figures, Mousavi, Khatami, Karroubi were involved in the revolution. If you are a Green in Iran, you believe it is Khamenei who has strayed from the ideals of the revolution. If you are part of the 85% of the Iranians who voted in the elections, you did not vote "against" the revolution. That's not the question here at all.

Your tasteless attempt to hijack this thread by trying to save Jamshid's face worn't work. You are already on a couple of other threads on this subject.

This isn't an Israeli prison or Gitmo, you may think of yourself as an interrogator but you have no power. Get used to it and cut the irrelevant spam before you get flagged.

Abtahi mentioned practice session in same room!

افشای تقلبی بودن دادگاه توسط ابطحی: ابطحی در دادگاه با اشاره به حضورش در دادگاه یک روز قبل از دادگاه واقعی و نیز اشاره به حضور "آقایان" از مطالبی که در آن جلسه تمرین کرده اند نقل قول می کند  

Ms. JalehO, You Are the Pathetic One!

Dear Ms. JalehO

You and the other IRI cronies are the pathetic ones who for whatever reason, financial or otherwise are willing to turn a blind eye to the suffering of millions of iranians at the hands of one of the most brutal and corrupt regimes that Iran has seen since the Safavid Dynasty. This is from your so called elected president

//www.sarmayeh.net/ShowNews.php?52803

احمدی نژاد در ادامه عصبانیت خود را از کسانی که «آنها» خطاب می کرد به اطلاع حضار رساند و با بیان اینکه «دوره جدیدی آغاز شده است» تاکید کرد: «بگذارید مراسم تحلیف برگزار شود، دولت کارش را شروع کند، یقه شان را می گیریم و سرشان را می چسبانیم به سقف.» احمدی نژاد برای تحقق آرمان خود از اساتید بسیجی که آنها را «همکاران عزیزم» خطاب می کرد، خواست در این راه به او کمک کنند و با یک حرکت همه جریان منتسب به «آنها» را به زباله دان تاریخ بریزند که این درخواست با تکبیر حضار که بر صندلی های سرخ سالن صبا تکیه زده بودند همراه شد. 

Does the indictment make any

Does the indictment make any reference to the police state the velvet revolution in Czechoslovakia was protesting? In the government's own words, it compares itself to a totalitarian state that trampled on the rights of its citizenry, and compares Iran's reformers to peaceful protesters for human rights. Do Iran's leaders understand that this is an admission of their own guilt, rather than an indictment of the protesters?

  JUan

JUan cole?

//www.juancole.com/2009/08/show-trial-of-reformists-in-iran.html#comments

FYI/CANDID INTERVIEW: Mohammad Ali Abtahi before the Elections

What he Really Thinks:

CANDID INTERVIEW: Mohammad Ali Abtahi before the Elections

I don't know what's the most disgusting

A Fascist regime which kills, tortures, rapes, ... the children it's supposed to defend, or, a Malijak like Jaleho who wants to paint the reality as the regime wants to impose it?

I vote for both. They are both disgusting entities.

Murdering is a criminal act and denying it is to be a party of it.

Malijak; by opening a Staline-like trial your masters have buried themselves under their graves. The generalized protest movement now hits, Esphahan (you're from there, right? - you should know it) Ahvaz, Shiraz, Rasht as well as districts in Tehran which were not touched by the movement yet. Rather than coming and farting loud here, Go pray GOD, that all these don't finish in a blood bath.

چو ایران نباشد، تن من مباد

Makhmalbaf Film House

Mohsen Makhmalbaf is a well know Iranian film maker.  His children have followed his lead and are filmmakers of their own rite. 

Here is Makhmalbaf's film house

Here's where you can find and rent his most famous movies. 

Here's where you can find and rent his daughter's most famous movies.

Here's the real story/documentary The Apple where Samira with her father's permission took a camcorder at the age of 17 and went to south Tehran to document the movie about an old father and blind mother who out of deep poverty did not know any better than to imprison his twin daughters until the age of 13 or 14 when newspapers wrote about their story.  Excellent documentary.

And Hana who at the ager of 15 made the movie about the fall of Budda' statues and the life of children under Taliban. Her movie won many internatinal awards.

Under Mohsen Makhmalbaf's tutelage a great service has been made to the Iranian culture and society as a whole.  But you wouldn't know it if you listen to allergic reactions. It is better to have allergies to eggplants, beets or some other things.

Mohsen Makhmalbaf continues to lead and until proven otherwise (which I doubt it ever will) I for one support him whole heartedly. Supporting a just cause is not rocket science.

Everything is sacred.

I don't know what's the most disgusting

A Fascist regime which kills, tortures, rapes, ... the children it's supposed to defend, or, a Malijak like Jaleho who wants to paint the reality as the regime wants to impose it?

I vote for both. They are both disgusting entities.

Murdering is a criminal act and denying it is to be a party of it.

Malijak; by opening a Staline-like trial your masters have buried themselves under their graves. The generalized protest movement now hits, Esphahan (you're from there, right? - you should know it) Ahvaz, Shiraz, Rasht as well as districts in Tehran which were not touched by the movement yet. Rather than coming and farting loud here, Go pray GOD, that all these don't finish in a blood bath.

چو ایران نباشد، تن من مباد

Q, a few more questions for you - RE JALEHO

Do you agree with Jaleho's following statements:

"What a pathetic low-life is Abtahi"

"As the saying goes, Abtahia is "choob do sar gohi," first for being one of the people who helped greatly to overthrow the wish of 40 million Iranians by instigating a "fraud" accusation which he knew well did not exist; and now he goes and tries to separate himself from the rest of traitors!"

Q, You are a used car salesman

Off course that "Their involvement in the '79 revolution is in fact a boost to their honor and integrity."

But amongst whom does it boost their honor? If its amongst the people, such as yourself, who want to preserve the Islamic Revolution, than such boost is meaningless to the people on the streets. Remember, the people on the streets are shouting "esteghlal, azadi, jomhoorieh Irani". "Jomhoorieh Eslami" is out of fashion these days.

Have you watched Abtahi's press conference Q?

//iranian.com/main/2009/aug/abtahi-press-...

Isn't it nice how fast these supporters of the revolution, such as Abtahi, come and admit to their crimes in the June election and now attack Mousavi on TV? I bet that was a "boost to their honor" and your honor as well!

Q, this is the Shria constitution defending the rights of the accused in Iran. Isn't the Shria IRI Constitution in actual practice nice and humane?

Now Q, why don't you boost your honor and make your own confession right here on Iranian.com by admitting that you were wrong on these points:

a. Do you renounce the Vellayeteh Fagih system & the Guardian Council as you had personally defended these institutions?

b. Do You renounce the Current Iranian Constitution as you had defended it here?

c. Do You renounce the use of the term "democratic" for IRI's election system as you have often done on this site?

d. Do you renounce defending Ahmadinejad's nuclear stance as you had done here?

e. Do you renounce the vote that took place 30 years ago with " color green for Islamic Republic" and "Color red for no Islamic Republic as you had defended such vote here?

f. will you trust the current regime with nuclear power even though it clearly does not represent the will of the Iranian people?

g. Would you agree that the word "Islamic" does not belong and should not stand next to the name "Republic of Iran"?

h. Do you agree with the new slogan in the streets the other day that said: Esteghlal, Azadi, Jomhoorieh Irani? Or Do you still want Jomhoorieh Eslami in the slogan?

What a pathetic low-life is Abtahi

and what a disgusting trial is this!

As the saying goes, Abtahia is "choob do sar gohi," first for being one of the people who helped greatly to overthrow the wish of 40 million Iranians by instigating a "fraud" accusation which he knew well did not exist; and now he goes and tries to separate himself from the rest of traitors!

And, the Iranian TV does not need to go through these disgusting forced trials. People already have realized that there was nothing in their own protests except for some youth frustration which was diverted by bunch of TRAITOR leaders who rode on Tehrani youth frustration who indeed believed that they were cheated; easy to do since in city of Tehran the majority actually DID vote for the opposition.

Iranian TV would be much smarter to show Mohsen Makhmalbaaf's very free voluntary interview in the EU parliament; his begging the Europeans for more sanction on Iran; repeating AIPAC line of how dangerous Iran's nuclear achievements are for Europeans! The Makhmalbaaf's  interview would show the nature of the leaders of Mousavi groups of TRAITORS to Iran and Iranians, and their relation to the powers which wanted harm to Iran, much better than ANY SHOW TRIAL!! No need to get another akhoond who was the right hand of Khatami who FROZE Iranian nuclear activities, and whose policies regarding Europeans and Iran's nuclear stand is already clear to all Iranians. Makhmalbaaf show was a repeat of FAILED Khatami and Abtahi policy alreay!

A proposal!!

I propose to create a comittee that will choose Judges and prosecutors to trail the "criminal elements" of the IRI and after make it morally right and even a "patriotic duty" of "any" iranian citizen to carry out the verdict whatever that is.

This judicial comittee will go by following  the IRI existing rules so there will be no excuse left to the IRI. If this comittee follows the IRI judicial rules then there will be no excuse left to the IRI to call it illegal nor any moral contemplation on Iranian citizen. Let`s face it, NO  ONE IN IRAN WILL SEEK JUSTICE OR NO ONE WILL BE PUNISHED IF FOUND GIULTY PROPORTIONAL TO THEIR CRIMES! We the people of Iran have no choice but to seek justice of our fallen heros from "mashrootiat" till now. WE have an obligation and duty to ourselves and the past and present and future generations. This injustice is not to be tolerated. we owe it to Neda and Sohrab and Mohsen and....

We need to do something, the price is high but the price of doing nothing is even higher.

Sonoko

I party agree with you. I don't think the IRI has learned from the lessons of history. They tried the Inquisition method back in the 80s and are now switching to the Stalinist method. Either way, they are repeating the same mistakes those systems made. The harder they try to repress the more their downfall is guaranteed.

Princess (hi, there!)

Hi, there! I'm a long time reader but a newly registered user...

@Princess: That's the point! In the summer of 1988 it seemed the IRI had learnt the lesson. Not now, this not the case. But maybe it depends mostly on their victims that are different ones... (I wrote something about this on an Italian blog but I guess here ther's no Italian speaking people ;) )

Inside Room 101

"The first thing for you to understand is that in this place there are nor martyrdoms. You have read of the religious persecutions of the past. In the Middle Ages there was the Inquisition. It was a failure. It set out to eradicate heresy, and ended up by perpetuating it. For every heretic it burned at the stake, thousands of others rose up. Why was that? Because the Inquisition killed its enemies in the open, and killed them while they were still unrepentant: in fact it killed them because they were unrepentant. Men were dying because they would not abandon their true beliefs. Naturally all the glory belonged to the victim and all the shame to the Inquisitor who burned him. Later in the twentieth century, there were the totalitarians, as they were called. There were the German Nazis and the Russian Communists. The Russians persecuted heresy more cruelly than the Inquisition had done. And they imagined that they had learned from the mistakes of the past. Before they exposed their victims to public trial, they deliberately set themselves to destroy their dignity. They wore them down by torture and solitude until they were despicable, cringing wretches, confessing whatever was put into their mouths, covering themselves with abuse, accusing and sheltering behind one another, whimpering for mercy. And yet after only a few years the same thing had happened over again. The dead men had become martyrs and their degradations was forgotten. Once again, why was it? In the first place, because the confessions that they had made were obviously extorted and untrue. ..."

George Orwell - 1984 

Wow, this is downright kafkaesque

I seriously doubt Abtahi said those words, and even if by some chance he did, it was not sincere.

The nature of this "revolution" is now becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy for the hardliners.

Irane Azad. You are missing a key point. Their involvement in the '79 revolution is in fact a boost to their honor and integrity. It's the only reason there is a televized "trial" at all.

پس نزنیم که پیروزی با ماست

‫این نمایش خیمه شب بازی کودتاچیان نشان از سردگمی، بیخردی و ندونم بکاریهایشان است. اگر عکس العمل یک هفته پیششان را در نظر بگیریم چیزی بجز مستعصل بودنشان دربرابر حرکت مردم نمیبینیم. اول شروع کردند زندانیها را آزاد کردن و بعد در برابر جنایتهایشان خامنه ای کهریزک را بست و رفتار سردرگمی بسیجیها در تجمعاتآ خیر همه گواه ازاین مسئله را میدهند.
به قول تحلیلگران این محاکمات بدترین راهی بود که اینها میتوانستند انجام بدهند، حتی محسنی اژه ای مخالف این عملکرد بود. این کار منو بیاد کشته شدن شیطان بدست میکلانج میاندازه، که در واپسین لحظات قبل از کشته شدن، شیطان در پی گاز گرفتن پای میکلانج است. آخر این دجالین نزدیک است، پس نزنیم که پیروزی با ماست.

I really feel sorry for the people standing trial

Even though most of them were involved in the revolution and were part of the disgusting criminal IRI system, no human should be treated this way. The picture of Abtahi above speaks volumes of what they have been through.

Raving "Judges"

Reminds one of this other kangaroo court under an equally dictatorial and savage regime:

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNi5256dhvM&feature=related

Shame, shame and more shame.

(can someone embed this video please?!!)

Did you notice it?

It is now a velvet "coup" not a "velvet revolution" any more.  Mother*****rs can't even make up their own mind.

So question of the day is if this was going to be a velvet "coup" what would an "attempted" velvet "revolution" look like?! 

Everything is sacred.

volvot revolution

"we were doing the volvot revolution....oops it is difficult to read this part of interrogator's handwritting" :

//photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs153...

JJ: Well said

very good analysis.

Payandeh IRAN & Iranians

Down with IRI & his supporters 

A Sham Trial Conducted by Criminals

Aberoorizi

You wonder if these regime had any aberoo left? Well, those who are being put on trial in Iran today have been an important part of the Islamic Republic since day one. They are not your typical "counter-revolutionaries". These sham confessions and bogus trials will shake the foundations of the Islamic Republic. It will force many within the regime to turn against the regime.

How sad for the accused to be so mistreated and at the same time how wonderful to see the Islamic Republic self-destructing.