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masoudA

So what do you exactly think should be happening? Bombs + heavier sanctions? You think bombs + heavier sanctions will bring regime change? A starving, bomb ridden public will not have the will power to bring regime change, nor will they look at people like you who promoted that agenda as countrymen. 

masoudA you essentially want Iranians to follow the Cuban-American model (a tiny group who through their massive influence over US-Cuba policy have brough about so much utter mysery on their native land). Look at Cuba now, any regime change?

Better yet, look at sanction ridden North Korea where the public is starving, any regime change? 

Parsi and Obama

Let's review this quote here:

"Now, understand that part of the reason that it's so important for us to take a diplomatic approach is that the approach that we've been taking, which is no diplomacy, obviously has not worked. Nobody disagrees with that. Hamas and Hezbollah have gotten stronger. Iran has been pursuing its nuclear capabilities undiminished. And so not talking - that clearly hasn't worked. That's what's been tried. And so what we're going to do is try something new, which is actually engaging and reaching out to the Iranians."

This is something Parsi has said for years now. When he says it, Fred, Zion, MasoudA and all the neo-con/MKO people call Parsi a supporter of Iran.

But this was not said by Parsi this time, This is from President Obama's conference yesterday, standing next to Netanyahu.

So, Fred and the gang, is Obama a supporter of the mullahs too?

It must be so annoying to you that Parsi is influencing US policy - perhaps directly influencing Obama - whereas all you can do is to write angry blog posts on Iranian.com!!! lol!!!

Darius, IRANdokht

To reiterate what you two are saying in essence, although Khatami MIGHT have an ounce of reformist in him, lets not forget all the censorship and injustice that he established during his own presidency.

Waiting and hoping that one of these Akhunds MIGHT or might not find a shred of decency and humanity and give a bit of freedom and justice to Nation of Iran will be like waiting to see[Ney goul bedeh].

lasting and true change in Iran has to and shall come from complete change in the regime, which is a republic with equal rights to all and freedom of speech. This is the only way that Iran can free herself from the grips of these criminal akhunds.

-YT

Watch this and Know what Iranians want.

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvedzuEK8E0&feature=player_embedded

Capitan Eyhab -  Basiji style mob mentality won't get you far in forums like this -where you need LOGIC and SUBSTANCE.   You also need to be short and to the point.   Now after all your hupla - if you are ready to debate simple issues pose them.   So far all I have seen from you is has been several attempts of unwarranted and false character assassination.   Again - if there is a topic you wish to debate put it forth - myself or others shall take a stab at it - if meritted.

Go Ventura

I wish he bitch slapped that stupid, close minded piece of trash. Glad the racist gangs are gone

masoudA... busted

Ouch dude, TRUTH is a b!tch isn't it? khub khodeto be mosh mordegi mizani ha? lol

BTW, did you catch this clip from last nite when your other hero Sean jun Hannity craped himself when talking to Jessi Ventura?  Watch it and weep dude.

//iranian.com/main/blog/capt-ayhab/jesse-...

bezar zahmateto kam konam.

-YT

Capitan_ayhab & Mashty

1- Eyhab - My dear - don't flatter yourself.    If I see merits I would respond - especialy in cases I encounter professional IRI supporters (you know what I mean).   Same goes to Irandokht's last post - No logic or substance to merit a response.  

2- Mashty - What is sickening is not those Iranians who live outside Iran and promote a regime change.   What is sick is for an Iranian to live outside Iran and promote status quo.   What is sick is for an Iranian who HAS and fails to see the HAVE NOTS around him.   What is sick is for an Iranian man to fail to recognize the Talibanism sophocating Iranian women.   What is sick is for Iranians to be so out of touch with their cultural roots, causing them to totally overlook the backward yet supressive culture which is taking over ours.      

Masoud A

you're continuously and blatantly insinuating that people who have a different view than you get paid by IRI. 

"I can't understand how Iranians like yourself have yet to figure out the HUGE CUMULATIVE LOSSES versus SMALL PERSONAL GAINS. " 

Personal gain? you mean what you get paid to spread foreign propaganda? 

I am for a regime change in Iran, unlike you and the other clowns like you, I have personally experienced the pains that this regime has inflicted on people especially women and students.

I want people of Iran to decide that they do not want a totalitarian theocracy.

I also hope that you and the likes of you never hold any position of power anywhere especially in Iran, because if Iranians think they have seen the worst with the ruling mullahs, they have yet to experience real hell under the likes of you.

Mashty

you said it well!!  Thank YOU!

Dear Darius

I am not sure what you're implying? just because JJ does a photo essay on the Iranians who are employed by the VOA, I am supposed to do what? not speak of the obvious? the organization is called "VOICE OF AMERICA" not voice of Iranian people. They have nothing to hide and they are very honest about their loyalties and their support. 

I remember the news we received from VOA, BBC and radio Israel during the revolution. What they did back then is called conspiracy and propaganda, but in this day and age with the internet available even in the faraway villages in Iran and better communication across the borders, Iranians are not watching these stations with the same thirst for the news and updates and they're not as gullible as we were 30 years ago. 

I am sorry if I misunderstood your comment,

IRANdokht

choghok: Does it matter what religion? ...

I think so ... At least given discrimination against his own community under the islamic Republic in the past 30 years even if I think that they are much better treated today than they were in the early days of the revolution...

Given that NIAC and Dr. Parsi seem to often put hope in President Khatami's promises and chances. I would like to know his assessment on whether the former President Khatami has held his promises in this regard or has suggested anything new to encourage more acceptance of the Iranian Zoroastrian community including their eligibility to governmental responsabilities or offices ...  This question is also valid for other minorities like baha'is, christians, Jews or sunnis  not to say the other bigger half of the Iranian population who are Women ( But whose shy candidancies and Status until further notice have been at best subject to parody by the current leadership than a serious claim to equal rights): 

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Qy2nkH9wm0

Why can't you just judge what he is SAYING

The guys says don't bomb Iran and kill hundreds of thousands of Iranians while pushing the country's infrastructure back 100 years. That this would only make iranians circle the wagons and make them even more determined to make a self-defense bomb.
Why can't we just judge the statement and voice our support (if we agree) without trying to vilify the guy and make all sorts of assumptions and creat conspiracy theories.
Are there any rational people out there who would support the destruction of Iran (Zionists and Tehrangelesis excluded, of course)? If not, then say YES I agree with this guy and move on.

Obama is still a politician

no one should expect too much from a politician but he is more in side with the Iranians than the previous a hole.

More and more people are becoming educated about Iran and Iranians. The kick in the behind for Netanyahu from our president is evidence that the US is changing course for Iran.

As I said before in another post, Obama aint no brother but he aint bush either. If he got a bit of black in him then he wont like salesmen like Netanyahu. He'll do what he wants, game has change my friends.

Now we need to see some real actions from Obama to prove that he means well for Iran and the rest will fall in to place.

This guy in the video knows whats up

BBC Mullah

you say[The intellectual "giant" Captain Ayhab, writes: "Wake up people, no
matter how much we hate IR, but we love mother land million times more."]

Firstly I appreciate you for coming to the grip about my intellect, chub kari mikoni ha.

Can you tell me which part of that statement rubbed you in wrong way????

-YT

Yeah we want the regime change!

So those like Fred, MasoudA, Kashani, Mehdi mazloum, Zion, Anonymous Fish, and the rest of clueless individuals can come to a land that they don't know and fvck it up. These guys have either never been to Iran or haven't been for more than 25 years and are expert at the Iranian politics. They also know exactly what Iranians (or as they would say eyeranians) want.

Get a life dude, you are never going to get what you want. We are smarter than that. Time for clueless individuals with US passport to rule Iran is over. Get with it.

masoudA

You are yet to answer my question, don't you love me no more? ;-)

Shall I repost it or you can go to first page and answer me?

-YT

Irandokht

You are worried about bombs and sanctions - and that is OK.  So are the Mullhas and the rest of the ruling 2 million.   Believe it or not myself along with many million other Iranians are also worried about bombs and sanctions - but what sets us apart from the likes of you is: We want a regime change.  

You never have anything to say on the subject of regime change - neither does mr. Parsi.   Granted - many Iranians, even those who live outside Iran are scared to openly criticize the regime and demand a change - that is what makes Iranians survivalists, and it is what has protected us throughout the years insuring our mere survival even when ruled by Turks, Arabs, Mogols, etc. 

What I can't comprehend is:  A person who gets paid $50/day to keep quiet while his house is being gradualy demolished in front of his eyes.   One day he will notice the $50 handouts stopped while he/she has no house.   I can't understand how Iranians like yourself have yet to figure out the HUGE CUMULATIVE LOSSES versus SMALL PERSONAL GAINS. 

but that is a whole different concept....

Irandokht What bothers you about VOA ? ;0)

I thought VOA was in good hands: Saman's ... ;0)

//iranian.com/main/2009/may/elections-scandal

And JJ's daughter's Colleagues :

//iranian.com/main/albums/deh-e-amrikaie

Oops Did I spot some inside Conspiracy and Conspirators ?

LOL

Bekhab Keh Ma Beedareem ... ;0)))

Masoud A

But VOA is totally in your control! what are you talking about?

You are blaming us for living outside Iran and not wanting the people inside to suffer under sanctions and bombs. Are you living in Iran? probably not, so is it ok to wish them a fate like Iraq or Afghanistan or many other countries where the US has tried regime change while you're sitting in the confort of your home in the west? Is it ok for you to live outside Iran and try to encourage Iranians to look for help from foreigners implying that they're not capable of knowing what's best for themselves? is it ok for you to have anything you need available to you and promote sanctions for Iranians? Do you know 500,000 iraqi children died prior to the invasion because of the sanctions that US had imposed on Saddam's regime for 12 years?

You and people like you do not think things through, or even if you do, you don't have empathy and compassion for the people in the country. Otherwise I'd even say that you probably have other countries' interest in mind and this is all calculated attack on NIAC by the foreigners and their loyals. 

IRANdokht

To 1L

Dear Sir/mam

You see - your argument has several problems -

1- You assume there are people here who actualy wish for Iran to be attacked and invaded by a foreign military.  

2- You live outside Iran, and yet conveniently take any kinds of responsibility to help Iran off your shoulders, by simple suggesting: Everything has to come from WITHIN IRAN.   If you need that to ease your concience - then just know there are thousands of IRI supporters and mullah offsprings that say exactly what you say - because they know Iranians inside Iran stand no chance without help from outside.    And Mr. Parsi is doing what he can to make sure that does not happen either.  

BTW - people who pay Parsi may not be just IRI - his clients, just like Hooshang Amir Ahmadi's Clients may be Oil companies who enjoy what is taking place in Daryaye Mazandaran and want no political changes to disturb status quo. 

3- What kind of help can we or the international community provide to assist Iranians get rid of the mullahs?   You don't klnow - why ?  because of NIAC and other so called enteties who suppose to represent us.   When asked about the state of "Human Rights" in Iran a few years ago - Mr. Parsi replied: We don't deal with issues relating with Human Rights !!!!   

Iran must be helped from the outside - and it's up to us Iranian immigrants to make sure it happens - we must make it our issue as well as the world's issue.  And the mullah goons will do everything they can to make sure that does not happen.  

Finally - on the subject of how the international community can help - What If an entity like VOA (Voice of America) was totaly in our control - do you think it could have had an impact on accomodating the change ?   

Does it matter what religion?

I do not think that Trita being Zoroastrian or not matters in this subject.

/Bidar bash ke ma bekhabim

No Offense Intended but Is Trita Zoroastrian ?

Just wondering ...

Watch Parsi Conductor Zubin Mehta on the Shah of Iran's invitation to the Parsi Community in India to come back to their native land Iran :

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Td4j91-zGI

more here:

//iranian.com/main/blog/darius-kadivar/pictory-conductor-zubin-mehta-greeted-shah-and-shahbanou-iran-1967

Best,

DK

Farah Rusta, excellent point.

Abarmand, are you saying it ain't so? If you don't mind me saying so, for a usually balanced contributor you response to FR is pathetic.

I would like to see people refute the point Farah has raised. Where are all the experts when you need them?

Trita Parsi

Trita is clearly thinking well. Not only that, he demonstrates to be a man with analytical and intelligent mind. He also has the ability to put his point of views forward without any emotional affect, a quality may intellectual lack.

I wish him good health, success and happiness in life. I would vote for him if he was standing for presidency in Iran.
Abdy

To BBC Mullah, Fred and like-minded people

Look none of us (those who support NIAC) like the IRI and thats exactly why we dont want a military strike on Iran.

A military strike will not get rid of the IRI it will only rally the public behind them. A military strike only serves Israeli interests and not those of the Iranian people.

regime change must occur without outside interference, democracy will not be advanced by bombs showering down on the public i assure you. 

The Alex Patico conundrum

There are many inconvenient questions that the NIAC lobby ignores, here is one. The NIAC lobby has repeatedly stated that it has NO connection with other lobbies. And yet the cofounder of NIAC lobby is on the board of CASMII, another suspicious lobby with a foot out of the closet. The NIAC lobby refuses to clear up the Alex Patico conundrum. 

Dear Abarmard

don't you realize it's much safer to make baseless accusations and plant seeds of suspicion in others than to actually reveal your agenda? what if people realize that NIAC is on the people's side? That would be chaos! then more people would donate to NIAC and Iran won't be bombed...

The information has always been there. If someone wants to insinuate that something fishy is going on, they just have to start a rumor. But when you bring out an easy link for them to click on, then you're "brick"ing their bread (nooneshoono ajor mikoni baradar)

but I am just so glad you do it!
:-)

ساسپیشس

Here is the information that you requested. Of course you did not need to be spoon fed:

//www.niacouncil.org/index.php?option=com_con...

Thank you for joining NIAC 

Mr. Parsi always gives us the one side but never the other side

NIAC has failed and always fails to talk about the crimes committed by the IRI regime against Iranian people.

He never condemned the murder of Omid Mirsayefi.

NIAC never talks about the human rights violation in Iran.

But I always wondered what is the solution then. Mr. parsi has never introduced a solution.

I agree with him a military strike is not a solution but then what is it that can destroy the Mullahs and the IRI supporters.

How can we free Iran and Iranian people from the foreign entity ruling Iran?

I would totally support NIAC

I would totally support NIAC if they would answer this one question: WHO IS FUNDING YOU??

BBC Mullahs

Spot On - but just a couple of notes;

Most of these leaches live outside Iran and don't have to suffer the autrocities of the regime - same as Trita Parsi and the rest of that clan.   Also as you can see not a single one of them dares to come out and admit they are for the Islamic Republic.  

Farah Rusta

Americans are not ignorant. In this case it is you that enters the freeways from exit and perceives everyone else is going the wrong way.