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Gheyratees

Save your Gheyrat and Vein-popping rituals for worthier  causes not for aftabe gereftane poole ye mosht mardome  badbakht.

No Fear

Anti - Iranians?

You or NO ONE ELSE EVER EVER EVER on this planet IS EVER authorized to make such a totally, absolutely, shallow with total lack of depth . YOu do not have that right I don't Give a Shit whoes god damn ideas you are a follower of.

Change your vocabulary, use a freaking dictionary, be creative and use other words, But not Anti-Iranian. Because when you do that That is a declaration of war ON YOUR BEHALF To all Iranians All over the world.

Is there any Aftabeh in this Sub-Boshkeh or what?

Please describe the hygienic aspects of this Sub-Boshkeh! Can anyone pray (nemaz bekhaneh)in this place?

No Fear,

Some people would like to see Iran purchase billions of dollars of high tech weaponaries to update its fleet.

I've never said anything of the like, so I assume you are referring to "some people" (perhaps a straw man)?

Iran's adoptation of asymetric doctorine for its entire military was brilliant. Its very cheap and it is more effective than the conventional approaches. Why send a squadron of F35s to attack a base when you can have it blown with a truck full of explosive? Duh ???

In what war has the IRI implemented its brilliant asymetric (sic) doctorine (sic) to achieve an Iranian military victory or to surrond, capture or overwhelm another nation's armed forces? Or is it brilliant mostly in the mind(s) of certain West-residing IRI "cheerleaders", to use your/"Sargord's" term? Just imagine what US military planners could learn by reading No Fear's powerful military insights. With this "asymetric doctorine", I feel a major military victory is on the horizon for the IRI--one that will make the victory against the highly competent Saddam look puny. Cheers  :-)

Abarmard,

Some people would like to see Iran purchase billions of dollars of high tech weaponaries to update its fleet. But they seem to forget that those who sell those weapons, also know how to disable it when the time comes. The cost of updating our military based on US standards are astronomical.  A F 35 fighter jet is worth about 100 million dollars without parts or services. 10 jets and you are a billion dollars in the hole! And i bet you when you are fighting the US or Saudi or Israel or any other nation, you will probabely lose the plane electronics in the middle of the battle!

In my opinion , its just pure stupidity to rely on expensive military hardware. Those who belittle Iran's attempt at self sufficiency can not explain the justification of spending huge amount of money for hardwares that will prove useless when fighting a superior enemy who sold those hardwares to us.

Iran's adoptation of asymetric doctorine for its entire military was brilliant. ( Many thanks to IRGC ). Its very cheap and it is more effective than the conventional approaches. Why send a squadron of F35s to attack a base when you can have it blown with a truck full of explosive? Duh ???

Let these anti Iranian cheerleaders watch those american big guns in awe. Its kiddish mentality on display. 

Great

Good for you. I am sure we all can learn a great deal with your way of thinking.

To deal with political situation as running a bakery: Asghar, yeh democracy rad kon biyad.

Areh, eena hamashun badan harzat e abasi.

Good debating.

WHAT A JOKE

The submarines are equivalent to the 1965 Paykan!

Amir

LOL:))

Marhoum kharmags is a free agent. he has this extraordinary capability in swinging in both directions. he is a little bit of this and a little bit of that kinda guy. for instanceIf you argue against Green, he becomes one and starts hitting back at you, and so on and so forth.

he gets his stuff "straight off the dome" You know what i am sayin dawwg?:))

So I'd hold off on "listing" him for now.

Abarmard

Peace Gangstaa:))

Dear Abarmard

Well good for you. I am sure that with many of the comments here, we all now have learned a great deal about what's right and what's wrong in our country. And if you pay attention closely, there is nothing right. Therefore for the first time, absolute is possible. And here is the proof. We have learned that. 

I am beginning to find Iranian.com a bit of waste of time.

We have plenty of folks on Iranian.com telling us all the right things (in one way or another) going on with the IRI (but while living in the IRI's enemy countries, of course, i.e. the Great and Little Satans). Here's a partial list of those patriotic, vatan parast folks: No Fear, "Sargord", Niloufar Parsi, Q, Mola Nasredeen, Marhoum Kharmagas, and yourself. And that doesn't include the folks who join Iranian.com for a few days just to blog and comment about all the right things going in the IRI, which is their right in a democracy. Would it make you feel better if I apologized for criticizing the IRI and not giving proper attention to all the right things going on there?

Abarnard

Please stick to and remain on your moderate and most of the time (at least trying to be ) in the middle of road kinda position, because here you are not only turning the Argument on its head (and taking the Argh out of it) you are giving it a nice kick in the rear while its on its head.

"If" The culture accepts corruption?? You mean they have other options as well that they have not bothered to become aware of? Oh god. This is highly perposterous a charge you are making there.

You are itching so badly to bring Italy as an example, at least take a moment to mention the fact that how successful they have been over the centuries. Then it would be natural to say, Hey look, You know what.  we have given our people good life, We have a vibrant scientific/research community, Everything else is working fine and this whole country is a well-oiled machine, We are officially and based on our industrial acheivements which have brought Goodness and stability to our people's lives, are considered among top industrially advanced nations in the world , All the while we have had a government who has been chipping in for this to happen, So now let there be some corruption. Fine. Let there be some!

I have had this discussion or something along those lines with you before and here i see you doing and saying those same things again. People---> Government so therefore whatever crap that happens Az mast ke bar mast... A kinda of Masmali if you will.

It really is time to make the distinction between Government who operate based on Utmost ideological strenght and impose restrictions on that basis, brining to a screechin-halt or not even letting projects getting off the ground and Those who are liberal enough to let things move forward, for things to get done, and for economic and by extension elements that bring prosperity to a nation to constantly be vibrantly functioning, Despite various ideologies.

Well Amir

It's nice to have a document to "zereshk" against all these belittling of Iranian accomplishments. It's very proper for this site.

In regard to your links, story is long and I leave it to be believed were we would be otherwise! just don't forget what was the overall condition of the entire country. Not saying it was horrible, not saying revolution was right, just saying what it was.

Very interesting to find that corruption and mismanagement is only under this regime. God bless all others including Ghajar. Certain things Amir, is cultural. Governments can change some things by right policies. But who is the government, especially if is from people. People. And if the culture accepts corruption, it will be so. Look at Italy or Greece.

I am glad that you distinguish the difference between the hard word of Iranian workers and scientists Vs. the system because if one just read your comments alone would not think that way. Of course, it just happens that those who are thankful for Iranian works are labeled agents etc. and those who cheer cute comments about how backward their country and their people living in it are, are just dandy.

Well good for you. I am sure that with many of the comments here, we all now have learned a great deal about what's right and what's wrong in our country. And if you pay attention closely, there is nothing right. Therefore for the first time, absolute is possible. And here is the proof. We have learned that. 

I am beginning to find Iranian.com a bit of waste of time.

Abarmard

I think this is maybe the 8th time or so that a West-residing IRI supporter has posted on Iranian.com this one link showing that the IRI is overtaking the U.S., Europe, and Asia to become the world's most advanced scientific and technological giant. I say Bravo and "Sadd afarin" to those Iranian scientists for their hard work and ingenuity, in spite of the lousy, murderous regime ruling over them (I have many relatives in scientific fields currently living and working in Iran, and they have all my support and sympathy). May they continue doing even more great work in a future Iranian democracy rather than one ruled by "akhoonds" and their armed goons. But seeing the folks who post this one article over and over again leads me to think that there's some political propaganda at work beyond their pure love of science (USSR and its supporters used to do this too--basically using scientists for propaganda purposes). Now, if the IRI can pull its infant mortality out of 119th or 155st place (depending on the source) and its life expectancy out of 103rd, 109th or 132nd place (depending on the source)--lower than many countries a lot poorer than Iran:

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_infant_mortality_rate

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

"Sargord"

So Amir, you think Bush/Cheney didn't attack Iran out of mercy? (LOL)

Let's follow the Sargord's "logic": You think Bush/Cheney didn't attack Syria, another anti-American terrorist regime "out of mercy"? The U.S. has not attacked the IRI because the political will has not been mustered among America's leaders due to a number of considerations, e.g. U.S. involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan, etc. It's not a question of lack of military ability on the part of the U.S. or "deterrence" by the IRI's Third World "military" and its so-called "asymmetrical warfare doctrine". You think the military that helped defeat Germany, Italy, Japan--not to mention Iraq (twice), etc is afraid of the IRI's "military deterrence"? Really? Keep living in the fantasy world of anti-American/anti-Iranian terrorist regimes--hope the weather there is nice. Cheers  :-)    

Iran showing fastest scientific growth of any country

I didn't say it, here it is:

//www.newscientist.com/article/dn18546-iran-s...

So Amir, you think

So Amir, you think Bush/Cheney didn't attack Iran out of mercy? (LOL)

The Cheonan incident actually has USN observers taking a second look at the Ghadir class, particularly after this latest announcement. The US Navy blogosphere is currently abuzz over it.

Doctor X, sorry about that, AShM is an acronym for anti-ship missile.

Sargord

Relax there Doc. You are speaking Millitarishhhyyy language. Simple english for idiots like me or i am gonna have to ask Amir for a translation:))

"Sargord"

It is the potential pain inflicted to a attacker that is the keystone to Iran's defense based upon deterrence. The logic being that the potential pain it is able to inflict deters the attack from taking place in the first place.

So far it's worked, even during the height of Bush/Cheney belligerency.  

Do you actually think that the US hasn't attacked the IRI because the US is afraid of the IRI's "military"--the same military that couldn't defeat Saddam after 8 years (we saw what the US did to Iraq's military in 3 weeks)?

Amir, it's my estimation

Amir, it's my estimation Iran will not launch a first strike against US military forces, but that it will defend itself. In such an event, IRIN will respond accordingly.

It is the potential pain inflicted to a attacker that is the keystone to Iran's defense based upon deterrence. The logic being that the potential pain it is able to inflict deters the attack from taking place in the first place.

So far it's worked, even during the height of Bush/Cheney belligerency.  

"Sargord"

It's the AShM threat that has USN planners worried about potential damge to the Fifth Fleet.

And what would the US reaction be if the IRI's "navy" were actually to "damage the Fifth Fleet"?

Amir, that was actually the

Amir, that was actually the case before the widespread introduction of AShMs.

It's the AShM threat that has USN planners worried about potential damge to the Fifth Fleet.

The midget submarines represent one more threat out of many. And keep in mind, this type has now proven itself in battle, following the sinking of the ROKS Cheonan.

"Asymetrical (sic) wafare (sic) doctorine (sic)" in action

Its amazing how asymetrical wafare doctorine is redefining our military and its influence on naval forces.

IRI's "navy" implementing their asymmetrical warfare doctrine:

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Praying_Mantis

Stealthy?

Are they stealthy because they can get to the buttom of the shallow waters of Persian Gulf , therefore harder for sonars to ping? I heard its a hell of a lot easier to ping subs when they are in deep blue waters.

I like the idea of using inexpensive small and fast vessels in our navy and deploying them in large numbers when needed. Its amazing how asymetrical wafare doctorine is redefining our military and its influence on naval forces.

It was a slightly less

It was a slightly less sophisticated but very similar type midget submarine that recently attacked and sank the South Korean Cheonan (PCC-772) Pohang class corvette.

Prrofessional reporting

Go PressTV.

"credible threat to warships"

This naval warfare blogger said this a few years ago when the first ghadirs were coming off the line:

"The many masts and aerials atop the submarine’s sail include a optical periscope (which looks very modern and appears to have night vision etc), a
surface search radar and various communications aerials. This
demonstrates that these are not crude or technologically backwards
submarines and cannot
be dismissed in the same way that most North Korean mini-submarines
can.

Although there are no reports of Iran purchasing submarine launched
anti-ship missiles but the potential is there. These small conventional
submarines
are well suited to the confined waters of the Gulf and pose a very
credible threat to warships."

Unlike deep water subs these subs are aparrently close-to-shore (littoral) craft desiged to wait very quietly at the bottom of the sea to attack with little warning.

Amoo Jan

Damet Joosh. That was a Tameez one:))

حاجی سردار دریادار، یواشکی چه کیفی کرد با دنبلان مربوطه...

چیزی که تلویزیون مکتبی‌ نشون نداد صحنه قربونی کردن گوسفند هستش که
حیوون زبون بسته در حالیکه توی آب دست و پا میزد که غرق نشه، یکی‌ از
برادران لباس شخصی‌ (سانسور...) که لابد مقداری از خون حیوون رو هم حتما 
مالیدند به توربین و جعبه فرمون و میله سگ‌ دست و بقیه چیزا.

“The production of too many useful things results in too many useless people.”

They look like the subs they found in Peru for smuggle drugs

i guess during peace time these can be used to smuggle some thing in or out of Iran. I am sure colombian's drug lords envy IRGC.

Poor Navy personnel who will die in these

Forget about US, here is the sub that Pakistan and also Turkey , Greece,...will be co-producing (type 214).

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:S-120_Papanikoli...

Does anyone in their right mind think IRI's ghaiegh halabee-s have any chance

Just one comment

Let's have everyone enjoy belittling this military equipment, I don't know what it can or can not do. However I just had to respond to two people here:

Mahmoug, seriously, what's wrong with you. I think you are doing this to get some attention, which is fine but if not then I would be worried about your (mental) health.

Every body loves somebody, Shark, in a river? Karoon? 

Happy Sunday and good night.