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Simorgh

Would Iran be entitled to attack Mecca if the Saudis dared to attack Iran or enticed another country to do so? 

The Sadudi already did attack Iran twice. Once in the initial invasion. Where did Omar come from anyway? Next in 1980s when they funded Saddam. I believe Iran is entitled to attack Saudi if Iranian national interests dictated.

That means Mecca; Median or anywhere else we damn please. However at this time it is against Iranian interest to do so. Because:

• We got IR to deal with.
• Saudi are allied with USA and any attack will bring on a massive American response.

So regarding "entitled": Yes. Regarding "good idea" Not Now!

Mola 5th Time

It seems that you are displaying the kind of agression in the spirit of violent Islamists which comes at no surprise. I repeat my question for the 5th time.

Would Iran be entitled to attack Mecca if the Saudis dared to attack Iran or enticed another country to do so? 

Please address the question and not  change the subject. This has nothing to do with Israel or the Shia gay parade in London. 

Don't you

Zionists have no shame?

Coming to an Iranian website and wishing them starvation, death and distruction?

If anybody say anything out of line about Jews and Israel you JERR yourself.

Do you have no shame defending a racist government, Israel that has occupied 3 different countries and threatening Iran?

We've seen kinds of you before on this website. We remember Zion the Efriteh who was here 24/7 wishing for an attack on Iranians.

Don't you have no shame insuling other people for their beliefs? 

Is Judaisim that much better? 

Mola 4th time

Will it be legititmate to attack Mecca if in the event that Saudi's deliver on their promise to 'cut off the head of the snake' in Iran or entice another nation to do so.

Please do not resort to insults. I am having a civilised discussion with you. 

Tech # 1 "Demonizing" straight from handbook for

Junior Zionist activists. "Demonize your opponent" hence Shia Muslims are evil, they have to be destroyed at any cost.

Tech # 2 "Distraction" We are talking about Shia Muslim walking peacefully in London while facing a 'Hate Fest' by you and other clowns. The subject has nothing to do with Saudis.

S5555, your thoughts and avatar reminds me of Nazis although you're a zionist jew. Nazis were racist so are the Zionists. Who says so? The United Nations says so. You've come a long way. 

Mola

Answer my question.

Would it be right to attack Mecca? 

If you were  an Iranian - hence my bold italics - you would not hesitate to say, 'Simorgh, sure, blow up Medina as well as Mecca".

You can't say it can you? Your allegience is with the Arabs who raped and subjugated you into submission. When you die, as all Muslims will, you will be burried facing Mecca. How sad! 

Why not die facing Iran? 

S5555,

How do they make you feel? Their sight, their sound.

Do you get sexually aroused when you see them?

Do you "experience unparalelled sexual arousal" (as you put it) Thinking of starving and bombing them?

Nazis felt the same when they were torturing and killing.

Mola

Rumour has it that those who partake in the Ashura celebrations and beat themselves up with poga sticks experience unparalelled sexual arousal. Is the Ashura Celebrations just an excuse for sex-crazed sleexy Akhunds to indulge in their S &M fantasy? After all sigheh and kesafatkari the akhunds get up to.  

Finally, I asked you before on two spearate occasions if Saudi Arabia directly attacked or enticed another country to attack Iran would this give Iran the right to attack Mecca. Yes ot no ?

P91,

Why are repeating yourself?

'I wish, I wish, I wish...'

Why are you stattering?

Is it from the excitement that comes over you thinking of 'ambushing and putting them in hospital' (as you put it). Did you enjoyed "smacking around islamists in real life". 

You know they're everywhere in the United States. Go ahead and find them and put them in hospital. Do as you wish, but you can't change their beliefs and that's why you end up to be the loser in this game. 

I wish they had these rallies in the U.S

So we could ambush them and put them in the hospital. Bunch of skinny wrist cutting emo metrosexuals.

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"They are not afraid of the ideology alone, but of the detemination and will of the men behind it"

I wish they had these rallies in the U.S

So we could ambush them and put them in the hospital. Bunch of skinny wrist cutting emo metrosexuals.

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"They are not afraid of the ideology alone, but of the detemination and will of the men behind it"

Mola

All of the above and then some. I've smacked around islamists in real life you know.

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"They are not afraid of the ideology alone, but of the detemination and will of the men behind it"

S5555,

You call Shia Muslim morners on the streets of London:

"backward retards",

How do they make you feel?

What are you gonna do with these "backward retards"?

Arrest them?

Beat them up?

Imprison them?

Take their property?

Take their land?

Break their bones?

Break their homes?

All of the above?  

Molla

No scenes like this shows what a bunch of backward retards you all are. To think that in this day and age grown men cry like little bache susuls in the streat while beating themsleves up is pathetic. When will you people learn to become civilised and not live in the dark ages?

Scenes like this

Makes

the Zionists occupiers

and their supporters on this website

s*** in their pants.

Period.

Simourgh, well-said

His stated profile and outlandish statements reflect a mentally disturbed person.

Shark

I found this video of the Mossad Shark in action. It was the prototype and mistook Batman for an Islamist. Must have thought the helicopter was one of the new mini helicopter.

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0UJaprpxrk

Still shows some people have no respect for anything.

Ridiculous comments

Also what exactly does this have to do with Israel lol its like the Egyptians claiming Mossad has some super shark doing spy activities in the bordering water LOL

ah ah ahhhh

Molla

Running on Empty?  Is that all you have?  This is some serious stuff going on here - just how old are you?

Read their comments

over a period of time and you'll be able to see the pattern:

The whole crowd of 4 or 5 Zionists, paid staff and volunteers,

They want Sanctions and embargo 

They want war in Iran,

They want to see broken homes and broken bones in Iran like what they've done to Gaza, all for the glory of the 'Chosen people'

Dear Simorgh

Thank you as well -

But the point is we need to look forward - and we need to look forward without any thoughts on what nation we can drawn so we can survive - as colonialists do.   All past human progress is in danger and the free world needs a solution - both colonialists and capitalists need solutions - and we have it - yes dear Simorgh I mean you and me and our culture hold the key to human enlightenment, Just as Cyrus did many centuries ago - it's all in the outlook towards life.  America is an easy fix - because it was built on Cyropaedia......Europe however is a different story - which makes your job that much more difficult. 

Simorgh

Just one point:

Even the oil which is the lifeblood of our country was founded by the
British and drilled from the ground.

Oil is the poison which has brought so much pain to Iran. Without it the British would not have overthrown Mossadegh. Without it IR would not be holding to power. It has been a crutch and kept us lazy and dependent on free money. 

Remember Cyrus did not rely on oil nor does today's India or Japan. Honestly we would be a million times better off if that damned poison was never found in Iran.

Thus finding oil is one more reason to hate the British  :-) As if I needed any more reasons.

Souri

Thank you for your detailed explanations. Regarding more questions: I am sure there will be plenty of questions to ask on both sides in time. Right now I have to feed my kids so I shall sign off. If you have any more questions of me please post them. I will reply tomorrow.

Molla

You never answered my questions. If Saudi Arabia attacked or enticed another nation to attack Iran would Iran have the right to bomb Mecca? In particular, can they target  the Kaabe? :)))))))))))))))))

Masoud A

Thank you. As you know, I'm not trying to defend British colianialism. There were terrible injustices done to the indigenous populations of countries which they ruled - I share the view of my friend VPK. However, with colonialism there un-doubtedly came great benefits such as the railway system, civil infrastructure, mass communication, codified systems of law, parliamentary democracies, rule of law  and even the 1906 constitution in Iran  owed much of its existence to British influence. It is a double edged sword and I am not suggesting the benefits outweighed the negatives. I am simply establishing the facts as I see them and not assessing the cost benefit analysis. 

Many people accuse (credit) the British of having established Reza Shah. The author Cyrus Ghani disproves this but if this was the case then the British did us the single greatest favour in Iran's modern history. Just imagine if there was no Reza Shah? No railway, no roads and Iran as we know it would be a series of ethnic states.  Of course, the Brits did remove Reza Shah ultimately with the assistance of Russia and the USA. This was criminal.

Even the oil which is the lifeblood of our country was founded by the British and drilled from the ground. Did you expect them to hand it over to us free of charge without putting up a fight? Be realistic. It wasn't until the last 30 years that Iranians managed to obtain the technological know how about on to refine the oil and develop its petro-chemical industry independently/. Be honest if a foreign power did not find it for us how long would it have taken us to find it? Fair enough, we are now enriching uranium and making nuclear power on our own but the wealth of our country has been founded on the oil which the British found. This is a fact regardless of how much the Brits have exploited Iran because of this commodity. 

If the British never discovered and translated the Cyrus Cylinder would we have been abe to boast about the first human rights document in the world and know Cyrus's achievements in Babyon? The Bisitun inscriptions alone are the single most important documents about Darius and the Achamenians. Its just an embarassment that no Iranian scholar bothered to identify the man in the rock carvings was even Darius and a Brit officer passing by managed to do it. Why? Give credit wear credit is due. If it wasn't for the British discovery of the cylinder you can bet your bottom dollar it would be stuck in the ground and perhaps never to have been discovered. The IR terrorist thugs want us to believe that before Islam Iran had no civilisation! 

The British do not serve our interests as this is evdient but each country including the Shah tried to puruse its own national interest over and above others. This is the way of the world. 

VPK

I didn't bother to talk to those people. But I did to you.

And also I remember once I told Sargord that Fred has a very great skill of writing in Persian and he knows the Persian literature and poetry and proverbs very well as he uses them always very accurately (while this is not the case for Sargord himself)

Any other question you want to ask me?  

The good behavior of the people, warms our heart and make us thankful.....  And the bad ones, just make us to recognize and appreciate the good ones!

Souri

I have said on many occasions and will repeat. It is not up to medo decide  who is Iranian and who is not. It is not up to me who is a good person and who it not. It is up to me to ask questions. Many people do the same thing.

They write something obscure in Farsi script and see if the other person figure it out. Some are pretty obviously not able to handle it: SP  being a prime example. I take the more direct route. I ask a real direct question.

By the way I am not the only one asking such questions. People asked if Fred is a real person! People have questioned: Fred; SP; IMF; Marge; etc. Do you feel the same about those questioning these people? Does the same standard apply to them.

Long Live Iran

Period.

We don't need some racist Israeli supporters come over to this website that incidently is called iranian.com and call for the destruction of Iranian nation by a foreign power.

Shame on us if we stay quiet an let this ugly comments about Iran and Iranian peoples' religious beliefs be said and not respond. Specially by a bunch warmonger Israelis.

Dear Simorgh

Excellent post - and to the point.

Yes the whole world owes the Brits for a lot they have done in the past - especially us Iranians not just for the Cylinder, but for Oil as well.   The world also owes us Persians for a lot especially the Human Rights, as well as we all owe to the Americans for getting rid of social classifications and the class warfare.  But we need to look forward - Nobody wants you or the well progressed wEll humored English population to be hurt buy this backwardness.   But what are the British cooks cooking today?   Why does the queen go to Istanbul Mosques wearinbg Hejab?   How did these groups get into England?  What if majority of them just came to London for the event (which I suspect is the case)?   Who is responsible for this?  Do you need to change laws do it - before it is too late.   But even if you screw up again - you can always count on us yankees to save the day....... as long as you don't mess with Iran and Texas!!!