Pictory

Denial Is doing Iranians no Favors.

Monarchy is the worst form of government for Iranians, except for all others. 

Since in Iran it has been proven that monarchy approaches both
freedom and the democratic ideal far better than democracies... as we
see in Iran under the shah vs islamic republic.

This is a Painful Truth for pro-democrats, to accept that the
islamic republic is a democratic reality that the majority wanted and
brought it about.

Democratic governments do not guarantee freedom, in fact it is a
false belief that democracy and freedom go hand in hand and can only
come about by looking at selective evidence and not the entirity of
data across the pages of history.

Islamic Republic as most people know is more democratic than even
the state of Israel.  Unlike Iran, Israel was brought about by only
considering the views of the jews and not all the people living in the
area. 

At least Islamic republic was created by the democratic principal of
majority rule while allowing all the various views to be represented. 
The democratic Islamic Republic is however a tyranny since it's
inception until today, unlike Israel which does provide Freedom for
Jews.

What the Green movement does not address, because most Iranians are
not conscious of, is that Iranians want Freedom more than democracy,
the kind of freedom they enjoyed for the first time from the Shahs
era.  Iranians tell their children how much better life was in the
hands of the shah and his team and they miss this very much within
Iran. 

And in a perfect world Iranians would want both freedom and
democratic government, but at a gradual pace that is relavent to the
possiblities of the iranian people, while not sacrificing their
Freedom. Today they don't even have freedom to go to the next step.

And that is what they are lacking, Freedom, the ability to have
choices without coercion, manipulation and deceit.  Real choices
however unappealing that will enhance ones life, not undermine it.

To think that Iranians blew away the Shah that worked his entire
life to bring them Freedom that they had not enjoyed before, to the
point where unlike 95% of the world in 1983 Iranians would have enjoyed
guaranteed health care, education and employment or government
assistance if no work could be found is shocking.  I live in America
and we don't have Freedom that good.

I hope people learned that Revenge is not so delicious. And that
true success is learning to enjoy life and not feeling inadequate
because some people are becoming extremely rich and then being
vindictive, mean and nasty. 

Dear bachenavab, I do not condone putting down revolutionaries

The reality is Iranians came out in masses against the Shah, even if they were duped. Hopefully they come out in masses against IRR. I tend to think given history, geopolitical intrigue, and China et al, we are not likely to get from where we are to democracy; Unfortunately. In this 'barzakh' so to speak, is where we better pick the lesser of the two evils, if that if our choice. This was the context of my relativism comments which I just compiled into a blog.

I appreciate the clarification. Lets do all we can to push for democracy. But be on our toes to ensure any interim measures are less hard on our collective psyche and sanity.

Dear Hovakhshatatare

 My response was collective and regret having offended you:Comments“I rather have Prince Chubby than a Mullah Shipishoo ...Besides why being a follower..let's be a leader for once....”“One thing I know for sure is, he [Shah] loved his country and his people and he was not virulent like his successors.”“Now can you tell me if IRR is not so terrible why so many millions left? while at time of Shah, including 1953 on, hardly anyone except those who were dying to be western left . And their numbers were negligible. These millions were not fans of shah or khomeini and a majority were likely among those who threw Shah out in 79. That was my point about scale and relativity."

My Response

Are we reduced to having to choose between a good dictator and a bad dictator?  Isn't good dictator an oxymoron?  This is the best we can strive for?

Comments

“In olagha budan keh enghelab kardan.”“.. the same idiots that you see on this video, were likely doing shots a few month back in cabaret tehran, and their wives were wearing bikinis in shomal.”My ResponseYou can call our common people all you want, the fact is they were the majority and the product of the system some of you folks are defending blindly.  They knew enough to realize what they had was not good enough and got off the pot and did something about it; unlike you and I. If you could get off your high horses and think about how many degrees of separation there are between you and these people you are putting down, you may feel some humility.  This attitude towards your own people embodies everything that was wrong before the revolution and the lack of popular support for the Tehrangeles alternative.        Your new CommentsIt is obvious we don't agree on this one. However, your comments are out of line and out of sync. The way I see it these threads are a way to modulate our common understanding & perceptions. Who said or defended between a good and bad dictator? Or we have been reduced to choosing between the two? Why so holier than thou with these statements? something you accuse some of us including me I suppose? Why reduce this so much? Are you reading what I and some here are writing? or you read into it what you like? defending blindly? is that a challenge or an insult? I don't think you intend to hurl insults, so respond with facts, figures and logic. Not innuendo.  

My Response 

Defending Shah without holding him responsible for the oppression, lack of freedoms, mismanagement, corruption, poverty, making a mockery of the constitution vis-à-vis the role of the prime minister and the parliament, crimes of Savak; basically the state of Iran in 1979 (and prior) and giving him a free pass because he pails in comparison to the blood thirsty IRI and the terrible condition of Iran today is absolutely defending him blindly.

Your Comments

I re-read my own to make sure I don't make your mistake. Where and how my argument of scale and relativity is flawed or inaccurate?  

My Response 

As for scale and relativity, the conditions on the ground determine the course of action by the dictator.  If it is possible to grant relative freedoms, they will do so as did the Shah; otherwise, you have today’s Iran.  It does not make the IRI and the Shah inherently different.  The Shah hung his hat on Iranian nationalism and IRI hangs its hat on Islam, both are a matter of strategy.

Your Comments

"They knew enough to realize what they had was not good enough and got off the pot and did something about it" you say.  You cannot defend that statement with solid reason and evidence beyond people were pissed off and had it with Shah. From there on it has all been a gigantic kolahbardari.

My Response

You had a lower middle class (teachers, government workers, bank employees, etc.) who could not make ends meet.  You had farmers who had become owners of their lands but up to neck in debt to the government co-ops and had to leave their farms and migrate to urban settings for better opportunities, hence all the construction workers linning the streets.  You had factory workers who lived far below poverty and imprisoned if they spoke out.  He injected surplus petro income into the economy despite economists warnings, driving the inflation and price of goods and services up and imposed further hardship on the general population (granted so is AN, but we are beyond exoneration by comparison, I hope).

Your Comments

I have lost dear people to this regime including a brother to the f$#@ing murderous war, and a father and friends to the both regimes. If I were you I'll show a bit more sensitivity and respect. Talk and emotion are both dirt cheap. facts are about the only hope we have to salvage something of a 103 year old war for freedom. If you do not understand the concept of proportionality, relativism or scale, look it up.

My Response

 I am very sorry for all the losses we have suffered including yours.  That is exactly my point about putting our people down (not you of course).  We have given blood to both regimes, we have been displaced from our motherland, we are doomed to always be on the outside looking in, and of course, we are bitter.  We see the crimes and the brutality of the regime in Iran and, rightfully so, become angry.  Then we unleash all of our anger and disappointments on those who revolted in 1979.  The fact is there are no guaranties in this world.  The green movement may or may not succeed.  If (and we hope ) it will succeed, it may or may not stay true to its ideals.  Perhaps, for the argument sake, it will be stolen by china and we will be back to square one.  How would you feel when a few decades later, people who weren’t there judge those who revolted based on the results of the green revolution without any regards to the fact that they did not fight for that either, and turn around and call them OLAGH and such?

bachenavab, I'm a bit surprised at your tone & emotion

It is obvious we don't agree on this one. However, your comments are out of line and out of sync. The way I see it these threads are a way to modulate our common understanding & perceptions. Who said or defended between a good and bad dictator? Or we have been reduced to choosing between the two? Why so holier than thou with these statements? something you accuse some of us including me I suppose? Why reduce this so much? Are you reading what I and some here are writing? or you read into it what you like? defending blindly? is that a challenge or an insult? I don't think you intend to hurl insults, so respond with facts, figures and logic. Not innuendo.

I re-read my own to make sure I don't make your mistake. Where and how my argument of scale and relativity is flawed or inaccurate?

"They knew enough to realize what they had was not good enough and got off the pot and did something about it" you say.  You cannot defend that statement with solid reason and evidence beyond people were pissed off and had it with Shah. From there on it has all been a gigantic kolahbardari.

I have lost dear people to this regime including a brother to the f$#@ing murderous war, and a father and friends to the both regimes. If I were you I'll show a bit more sensitivity and respect. Talk and emotion are both dirt cheap. facts are about the only hope we have to salvage something of a 103 year old war for freedom. If you do not understand the concept of proportionality, relativism or scale, look it up.

Lowered expectations!

Are we reduced to having to choose between a good dictator and a bad dictator?  Isn't good dictator an oxymoron?  This is the best we can strive for?

You can call our common people all you want, the fact is they were the majority and the product of the system some of you folks are defending blindly.  They knew enough to realize what they had was not good enough and got off the pot and did something about it; unlike you and I.

If you could get off your high horses and think about how many degrees of separation there are between you and these people you are putting down, you may feel some humility.  This attitude towards your own people embodies everything that was wrong before the revolution and the lack of popular support for the Tehrangeles alternative.      

Did the Shah ever stone

Did the Shah ever stone anyone to death?? Was women pedophilia legal in Iran during the Shah as it is now?

Thx Shushtari, I mentioned that those who are so emotional

on the general concept of 'dictatorship', seem to not have any sense of proportion. And can not be convinced or persuaded by facts and statistics. That is generally part of the Iranian dilemma. Interestingly enough, we see a similar phenomenon in U.S. with peoples perspective on democracy, freedom, capitalism....

hova.....

again, you're right on the money!

as for bavafa, respectfully, what you are saying about the two regimes being more similar than different doesn't make any sense.

how the heck do iranians have the same amount of freedom as they did during the 1970s!????!!!!

did the shah make women wear head-to-toe chador or control how people dressed, what they saw in the theater, TV, public displays of affection, and millions of other things???

I grew up in the south, in ahvaz, which was much smaller and less cosmopolitan than tehran, but those years where the best of my life.....and if you ask anyone else who lived there or in any other city, chances are they'd say the same thing.

we were proud to be iranian, and had all the freedom in the world....

now you can argue about political freedom, but the fact is the shah would have likely passed away in 1980 anyway, and iran would have evolved in to a modern superpower.....

just imagine what iran woud have been like with this new generation as it's leaders!!! 

there were problems, of course, but at least the country was being modernized and despite whatever corruption existed, most of the money was being spent on iran.

and you can't expect otherwise.....reza shah brought iran out of the gutter of the qajar dynesty....imagine if the akhoonds had taken over in 1921 or so!!!!! can you say 'AFGHANISTAN'??!!

the same idiots that you see on this video, were likely doing shots a few month back in cabaret tehran, and their wives were wearing bikinis in shomal.

you need to give credit where its due... 

Mavaade Monfarej-Konandeh Endakhtim :)

Video # 2

Time: 1:47

In olagha budan keh enghelab kardan. Hala hamina va bachehashun shodan olaagh-haye pooldaro vaziro vakil. Va tanha raahe az bein bordane in rejim hamin karieh keh inha kardan

JANGE MOSALAHANEH.

OMG

I remember that damn sign: "Kalantari Narmak", bringing back a mountain of emotion.  It has been 31 years.  Bitter sweet 31 years!!!  I went by that place when it was over!!! 

Full circle in 30 years

the end is near for IRI as well, and its paid supportes! yes any dictatorship including the ISLAMIC one will fall.

Hovakhshatare: Thanks for the write up

Likewise I can respect your opinion, perhaps we agree to disagree on some parts.

In short, I am not insinuating in any way that Shah and IRR are exactly the same, but I think they have more similarities then differences. There were elite group during Shah's time and there are elite group (Sepah o Baseeji) now that are stealing the wealth and raping the people. It just that you and I identify more with the group during Shah then with Baseejis, but they are fundamentally the same, one group taking advantage of the other based on force and terror.

What the two regime have most in common is the lack of democracy and freedom for their people. Without freedomit may not matter much if one group is religious fundementalist or exact the oppoist as people can not choose their way of living.

Now about foreign powers, since there is no doubt about the 53 coup and if we believe that US/Russia brought us Khomeini, shouldn't we be wary of any involvement of the foreign powers in particular the US as they have proven that they want nothing for us but misery? Their track record in other countries (Jordan, Saudi Arabia, etc) also speak for itself. So, is there any reason we can trust them at all?

Mehrdad

Bafava, I can respect your different view and doubt anything I

say will change that. I certainly do not doubt you love of Iran. But anyone that compares IRR to Shah will not be convinced by anything I say. So I won't try but will respond to your comment:

There are dozens of resources and I won't list them so nothing will replace personal research. I have made many specific comments on different blogs, including my ongoing feature (Shah's 1973 speech). I'm not a monarchist, nor shah fan. I had protested against him as a teen and can write high quality documents on how he screwed up and pissed off so many and on.... 

CIA did bring Shah back. There are volumes on that. However, Shah was a secular, Western educated (like you and I, I suppose albeit a lot more comfortable), was a nationalist and was a progressive dictator to the extent any dictator can be. He was ambitious and a megalomaniac and could argue he built the country for his own sake, but he built it nonetheless. From day 1, everyone knew CIA & British brought him back. But, short of oil contracts & weapons he had to do, he leveraged various interests to built the country and started educating and if one were to believe him, he would have started democratization as well. In 1978 there were more Iranian students in American universities that all other U.S. friendly countries combined. That is a massive brain & building power that never returned (most educated and affluent minority in U.S.). He certainly had no religious agenda, and to his own demise built more than 5000 mosques during his reign for the religious nuts. See my related feature post.

Meanwhile, Khomeini and co were direct agents of CIA and everyone still argues that. Historically & evidentially that fact is beyond dispute . They are moslems first before Irani, have a religious/extremist agenda, have wasted country's wealth and resources (at least what they did not steal (previous regime did too but it pales in comparison in scale and magnitude) for a wasted war for which they have not collected 1 trillion in estimated damages, while AN is claiming damages for WWII. They have created an Orwellian society that flies in the face of everything that is current and call it fighting the West and ..... and leveraged various interests to keep themselves in power and drive an anti-Irani agenda and world view.

Review various stats in most areas that matter to people and you'll find we have lost ground, and again there are plenty of resources to research. Shah, was accused of brutality & according to U.N. he executed close to 1500 political people in 35 years which Carter used as an excuse to set him up. Meanwhile, the same source as of 3 years ago estimates IRR numbers at 155,000.  That is a staggering two orders of magnitude higher in a span of time 8 years shorter.... or rampant drugs, poverty, prostitution, corruption that are beyond the wildest imagination., and in  'moslem' context....

Now at a personal level story of gitdown is not unique, or Atessa's on my blog. And there are millions of stories like that and millions of Iranian left the country since 79. Now can you tell me if IRR is not so terrible why so many millions left? while at time of Shah, including 1953 on, hardly anyone except those who were dying to be western left . And their numbers were negligible. These millions were not fans of shah or khomeini and a majority were likely among those who threw Shah out in 79.

That was my point about scale and relativity.

Dameshoon garm!

How bravely they ended 2500 years of putrid monarchy!

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Bavafa to find your answer PLEASE read Mr.cyrus Moradi's blog on iranian.com (true story) I (a simple Iranian) can assure you along numerouse other documented available factors that Russia was on his plan.......with the help with-in iranian military to orchestrate another KABUL II invasion type.and Russia and America sold shah of ........

I don't want repeating all saying over and over like nuts but its true.                                                                                                           saying  shah era and ollagh time are comparable is insane,dadash bavafa                          Maziar

Hovakhshatare: I just don't see things happened as you described

them

Perhaps you want to elaborate as how you think the 79 revolution was "a foreign planned, supported and implemented" .  Are you saying some thing like the coup of 1953?  That was planned, supported and implemented by CIA. While you are identifying those foreign powers and how, let us know if you think we ought to consider them as Iran's arch enemy and never to trust them again?

Also, how was "Shah of Iran and for Iran" and IRI is not for "of Iran and for Iran". What are your criteria of "of Iran and for Iran" and how was the Shah regime and IRI regime differ fundementally.

Mehrdad

Gitdoun

If you can read Farsi, then read these two comments about how and why the people were deceived by Khomeini:

//iranian.com/main/comment/reply/92795/254449

//iranian.com/main/comment/reply/92795/254453

Gitdoun and your father...

First of all, I admire your courage to come out and write what you wrote about your father's lies to you ...

I don't want to insult your father as he is still your father... But believe me, there were and still are so many Iranians like that...

Historical facts such as these clips are the proof for so many Truths and Lies to resurface...

I want to tell you which I witnessed as a very young man in those days... Shah was an educated, civilized gentelman. Despite many mistakes he made during his ruling of Iran, he loved Iran and True Iranians... That is why he left and later ordered his generals directly not to kill Iranian protestors and people.

Imperial Iranian Armed Forces (4th/5th military in the world at that time) was ordered not to fight and eventually surrendered to people in Feb.1979 who had never seen any guns in their lives ,let alone being able to use them!!! (As you could see in these clips). Unfortunately, there were many Foriegn agents and Iran haters who were trained to create chaos and terror amongst people. Those traitors, those bastard children of Iran (Mullas, fanatic muslims, ignorant people, MKO, Chereek fadaei Khalgh) + Palestinian PLO mercenaries and other foreign spies and agents on the ground killed innocent people during the protests to make Shah look guilty of killing people. Later these same trained bastards (iran haters) took full control of the whole Capital city and few bigger cities by attacking the (already deserted) military bases and Police stations due to the vacuum in Government and military Central Command and their eventual inactions to command and instruct Iranian military and police against such horrible chaos...

You can clearly see all that in these clips now! I saw that live as a young man and was unbelievably shocked by Shah's give up and seeing all Iran hater thugs taking over our whole country almost effortlessly.... Stupid military generals did not do the "Coup d'etat" to regain the control of the whole country against Iran haters... Instead they remained faithful to Shah, his wishes and True Iranian people... Otherwise, they could kill thousands and thousands of these Iran haters and perhaps many more stupid excited Iranians who thought it was just real fun to be amongst these mother....!

Iranian Military and Police at the end would probably lose and die, but they could take thousands of people with them!!! Which they didn't!!! UNLIKE, THE SATANIC/ISLAMIC REGIME and all its bastard children in charge NOW...

NOTE: One more proof that all that was planned much earlier (to topple Shah) within 10 days after 22 Bahman, In my own neighborhood (Gisha/Tehran) I saw units of brand new Khaki colour Toyota Land Cruisers, with four Pasdars (PLO trained) with brand new Dark Seyed Green uniforms called SaarAllah (brand new name and title!!!) andwith Russian/Chinese automatic machine guns!!! (Kalashnikoves and Ak-47s) !!!!

Iranian Armed forces and Police didn't have any of those before and it was yet another huge shock for me as a young man to see such a lightning speed of having all these FOREIGN elments landed and functioning in my own neighborhood, city and country that no one had ever seen before previously!!! Just less than 2 weeks after 22 Bahman!!!! Saddest thing was that almost no one noticed (I did because of my interest and passion in my own father's job at that time! He was an Army Colonel...) Not too many people recognized all these conspiricies against Iran and Iranians or if they did, they were silenced one way or the other... People after 31 years still don't get it!!! I can write and write like so many others did before me, but who listned/listens?!........ 

In hopes of true Iranians becoming victorious against  Satanic/Islamic regime with all its bastard children/Iran haters this Feb.11,2010.

Free Iran and True Iranians.

Bavafa, what I'm to make of your inert comment?

Care to elaborate?

Are you arguing about whether Iran was a more 'normal' country?

Or would you like to engage statistics on economic, social, and other fronts that will make post 79 much worse than what I suggested in 'relative' terms?

Or are you defending Khomeini and IRR as somehow valid representation of Iranian discontent in 79? 

Part two is being made as we are watching this

I was wondering how many of these men we saw on this tape were executed by Mullahs specially Mojahedin khalgh who actually put the Mullahs in power. 

Hovakhshatare: Your

Hovakhshatare: Your statement is entirely a matter of opinion. Little of it supported by facts though

Mehrdad

bachenavab, there is much truth to what you are saying

Is it not true, however, that everything is relative? and a matter of scale?

We say America is a democracy, but we all know better. However, relative to Iran of pre-79 or Iran of 2009 it is more democratic. We also realize that America is certainly not as democratic today as it was 20 or 30 years ago.

My point is granted all the negatives, Iran of pre-79 in almost any respect was superior to Iran of today including the all important Image & credibility on world stage; And Iranians were happier, freer, had more 'balanced' lives and .....and I have never heard otherwise even from many current and former supporters who remember pre-79.

We certainly did not have to fight to keep our Iranian heritage as no one was fighting it. So the issue is much larger than the revolution not succeeding. That "revolution" was designed to destroy Iran not change for better. A dictatorship is bad. A theocratic dictatorship is a disaster.

H. 

Hindsight philosophy is flawed

Even though the constitutional revolution was followed by the King's backlash (Estebdade Kabir & Saghir) and had a very negative effect on people's lives for many years to come, a glorious moment in our history remains unblemished.  This movement brought about a parliamentary system, albeit later rendered ineffective during (and after) the Pahlavi dynasty.  I would imagine there were people who felt the constitutional revolution was a bad idea because of the seemingly permanent hardship that followed.  You are doing the same thing with the 1979 revolution.  The events that lead to the 1953 coup should have been a wake up call for the king.  Instead of establishing the parliamentary monarchy that you all are wishing for, he chose the way of dictatorship.  Folks, you can not have it both ways.  You can not turn a blind eye to the Pahlavi dictatorship without holding him responsible for its outcome and blame the people of Iran for wanting to rid themselves of dictatorship.  In 1979, Iran was not composed of only middle-upper and upper class city dwellers (who now miss their good old days).  Iran was and continues to be a third world nation (granted much worse now).  Like it or not, this was a revolution against a dictator, after which desired results were not achieved.  Today, our heroic people have risen again for freedom, happiness and prosperity; things that Pahlavis and IRI wanted only for themselves and the fruit flies around them.

Shah victim of his time

Shah being a dictator seems to be axiomatic among many Iranians,  irrespective of their political views.
We should ask ourselves whether he could have been anything else in those days. Iran being threatened by groups and organizations from within and  the always lurking threat of  British Petroleum and their lobby.
The Iranians of pre-revolutions  are not those  today. For many years foreign powers abused our dogmas to emaciate our recourses.  In spite of the misery of the people, we could not see that they thrived on our dogmas and conservatism. It has taken many of us many years to open our eyes and see political Islam for what it is.
If Shah had back down, we would have fallen to the hands of the despotic clergy even sooner. 
Let also not forget the critical part foreign propaganda  played, into deceiving a benighted nation.
Lets take for instance the European nations. In many of these countries xenophobic  sentiments are heavily present and decisive in their actions.  It only takes a little bit of propaganda to divert their attention from the significant issues and these are often so called open minded progressive tolerant human beings.
What I’m trying to say is, that it does not take much to  manipulate people and to overthrow governments, irrespective of them being democracies or dictatorships.
So whether  the  Shah was a dictator or not, I don’t care. One thing I know for sure is, he loved his country and his people and he was not virulent like his successors.

God bless you all!

450 Banks Burning

Financial Revolution & Chaos

-Strikes

-Customs border trade blockade

-450 Banks burning

The Mullahs knew their economics; and they are looting the same banks now.

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAJuXogmvPU

Bavafa, your equation is incorrect in theory or practice

Shah was a flawed dictator but was of Iran and for Iran.

IRI is a fascist tyranny of the weirdest kind, not of Iran nor for Iran. 

Putting out a foreign planned, supported and implemented plan on a nation that fooled people into hasty demands and not accepting Shah's retreat is very very different than grass roots uprising in mass  against a satanic IRR. This movement has been peaceful from day one. That one was prepared and had several military components in addition to foreign forces.

So Shushtari's wish in hindsight does not equal that of IRI or its supporters, despite the superficial similarity.

Az Maast keh bar Maast

Well then why complaining...you fought to bring the Satan to Iran...this is the result of it....Islamic Republic of S****t....Now instead of Shah we Have Khamenei (even wealthier and filthier) we have Mesbah Yazdi to list rape of the virgin girls or young boys in  prisons "Halal" and a step closer to heaven and Karbala.  We have AN to distribute the wealth of the Nation among his thugs (i.e. Yazdi and Mashaei) hummmmm let see....I guess it's enough for now....

I rather have Prince Chubby than a Mullah Shipishoo ...Besides why being a follower..let's be a leader for once....

The sad thing is

that probably more than half of the gun toting idiots were probably executed within months by Khomeini himself.  They identify themselves as MKO members.  

My Father Lied

I have to say my father's narrative of the revolution was one big lie. My father is a big time supporter of the I.R.I. and when i was child he lied to me and deceived me about the nature of 1979 revolution. He told me everyone in Iran wanted Wilayat Faqhi and those who didn't were all infidel monarchists, evil muslim taghoots, evil jews, and evil bahais. But no, this video along with the books i've been reading at the library confirm he lied to me. There was was no unanimous consensus that iranians wanted Wilayat Faqhi and there were no evil people with horns trying to prevent the "Harmonious 22 Bahman". Infact, it was the opposite !! 22 Bahman was a day of Chaos !!! It was a day to make a grab for power and whoever had the most guns would win !!! You had the Tudeh party, M.K.O, Khomeini's militia, and remnants of the National Front all trying to kill each other for the prize of rulership!!!! Whoever posted this video u have my thanks !!!--- One more spoonful of lies my father fed me as a child being Vomited out !!!!

DK jaan what are the mechanics of restoration? falling down link

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0eINGyJHz8 

Does Prince chubby asks Islamic Republic to hold a referendum? Or does he ask UN to ask Islamic Republic? Or does he ask US to install him?  Or does he ask the people to revolt and bring him to power like Khomeini? Or does he asks someone to beam him over?!

I'm sure people have fallen on their arses in front of Shah.  Story has it that Reza shah had been very unforgiving to clutz!

Everything is sacred.