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Change

Change to what? If you want to keep everybody happy by not answering the question, you rot in green. Try to answer it first, then see if you can withstand the criticism.

MKO is doomed

  that is what they get for kissing Saddam's ass . Opportunists !!!!  This Islamic cult needs to be abolished .  These old goats have been dreaming about establishing their dreconian utopia on the basis of thir false and delusional belief system . Iranian folks refuse to fall in " Chaleh" . They crave power .  They have already set us up with a "Lachak besar" president . What is her husband going to be ? A supreme leader or the prime miniaster ?

Fooladi

Thanks for the utmost clarity:) Ahsant.

"If you are modern, you have to respect our modern history"

Which aspect of our "modern history" needs highest respect? Savak's glorious handy work of depleting Iran's political scene of any secular voice paving the way for the islamic khalifa to take over? Or is it upwards of 15,000 Best and brightest of Iran's youth  hanged by khomeini in 1989 so his khalifat can last another 30 years? 

Dont you really think Iranians deserve better? Dont you think after 100 years of struggle for democracy, all the bloodshed and heroic deeds by Iranain masses, we deserve a democratic republic we are longing for? What is the problem with a republic? both US and France are republoics arn't day?

I know you guys like monarchy and I am not suggesting you are not democrratic either, and I respect your wishes. But believe me, the vast majority of Iranians just dont share your vision.

Doctor X

Well that is my point also. I don't think a yes/no vote is helpful. Instead we need a group of representatives whose job is to draft a decent constitution over say a couple of years.This allows lots of back and forth to let people get to look at it and change it. After a few years it may then be voted on. The process should

• Most importantly be based on and take into account what people want more than historical points. Although history should not be forgotten.
• It should be open to being amended if necessary.

Gee!

If you are not modern, you still have the opportunity to vote for IRI constitution. A modern policy does not exclude non-modern citizens from the process.

Modern vs Non-modern???!!! what nonsense.

Already busy Creating divisions smack dab in the middle of trying to form a consensus aren't we? Give it up people. Pleaseeeeeee.

vpk

Like the last time? what last time? Constitution is complicated by nature and I doubt that the people of any country would really understand every detail about it, that is why we at least in the US have scholars and i am sure there are in iran as well, But the main point is that our people did not really get a chance to look at anything other than the Yes/No ballots at the time of casting their votes.

Rastgoo:

No one despise MKO for resisting and fighting IRI, Iranians hate this cult for their crimes against Iranian nation. We despise them for siding with an enemy that used all sort of illegal weapon against our civil ant, never mind starting an aggressive and unjust war. Many groups have resisted and fought IRI, but none took arms against IRANIANS.

So, lets be fair and call them what they are, traitors nothing else will describe them better.

I just hope they will be held accountable for their crimes against Iranian people as well as Iraqis.

Mehrdad

Benross

I just do not see how this refrendum is going to happen.

• Who will administer it?
• Who will decide what the choices are?
• Why should whoever administers it give different choices?
• How about people who don't want either IRI or the pre 1979. You cannot just tell them to goto MKO. They will probably *demand* other choices. The people administering the vote will have to go against popular demands.
• If the people want other choices how do you intend to deal with it. The new system may devolve into a dictatorship before it even beging.
• In the chaos of post IRI how do you make sure it is fair. 

Stopping regress is progress

31 years ago the only choice in the referandom was the " islamic republic".....

Well, If you are modern, you have to respect our modern history. It doesn't take away any preference you may have for future Iran. It puts it in a modern democratic process.

If you are not modern, you still have the opportunity to vote for IRI constitution. A modern policy does not exclude non-modern citizens from the process.

There is no room for complain. The clarity of where we are going is far more important than its imperfections, which btw can always be corrected.

Otherwise, you already have a Republic in power! You don't like it? There is MKO too!

Fooladi

I agree with you. I don't think a referendum on the pre-IRI constitution is practial or doable. 

As much as I miss the old days they are long gone. I think most Iranians want a republic. I could be wrong but I doubt I am. Therefore when the IRI is gone a major part of the society is going to want a regular republic. Their desires must and will be heeded. So a binary choice between IRI and pre 1979 is a non starter. People will demand more.

We are not taking about some theoretical legal argument. We are talking about what people will accept. For it we need to elect representatives tasked to draft a new constitution. Once that is done we could put it up for a final approval via a referendum. But I really do not see the point. Details of a complicated constitution will likely escape a lot of people like they did last time. Therefore will of people is better expressed through a group of elected reps. These should have the  full spectrum of positions. 

PS,

That does not include traitor cults like MKO. Ideologies like Marxism should be represented. However MKO leaders belong in jail not in the Majlis.

sadam va rajavi mozdour

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXJ1-PppegM&feature=player_embedded

"parroting the IRI's propaganda "

Nicely put Rastgoo.

"a referendum choosing between IRI and constitutional monarchy."

Now this is what I call progress! I believe 31 years ago the only choice in the referandom was the " islamic republic".....

MKO

Glad they are being arrested. G ood for Iraq to get rid of them. It is not fun to have a group of fanatics in your nation. MKO fanatics devoted to picking a fight with your neighbor. They are not worth the trouble.

Benross: I guarantee you a referendum would not work with MKO. They will lose and they will claim they got cheated. Or they would start to blow things up before the vote even got taken. Or they would try to intimidate voters or come up with some other asinine thing.

Rastgoo: You are rewriting history. MKO could not have blended into the government. That is when they decided to break from IRI. There was a power struggle and MKO lost. Then it decided to join with Saddam hoping to trade power in return for Khuzestan. MKO actions are 100% to serve its leadership and 100% selfish. They have no redeeming features.

MKO was not the first "major" group to call IRI for what it was. The Monarchists called IRI for what it was from day one. Not to mention many other groups. Being "major" does not mean being terrorist and blowing people up!

A cult is a pain for any

A cult is a pain for any country in which it is located. This cult is 'ours' and our problem.

I guess their best therapy, is to be faced with a referendum choosing between IRI and constitutional monarchy.

The same therapy I prescribe for less damaged minds, it is a good therapy, certified by sane minds!

I agree with Rastgoo. We shouldn't give IRI the satisfaction of any small victory. 

The organizational issue

Never mind the Kurds, never mind the Iraqis. Even their attacking their own provenance can be worked out. And their taking money from a foreigner can be "so what"ed. But, tell me what I am supposed to do with their cultist mentality.That's all.

visit....//www.tudehpartyiran.org/mardom.asp

Fair is fair

As my name suggests I can only say the truth.  So here it is.  There is no question that the MKO has non-democratic tendencies and has comitted acts which I personally disagree with.  This is due almost entirely to their anachronistic leadership that has truly lost touch with the times.  But to be fair one must give the MKO credit for being the 1st major group that called the regime for what it was.  It fought the regime when it could have very easily molded itself into the regime and worked as a part of the system.  After all they are "Islamic" in ideology.  So for us to take away all they did against the regime is unfair.  Some of you on this blog are parroting the IRI's propaganda against them without even noticing it.  Many of the regime degrading terms in use in Iranian resistance today such as the "medieval" regime are their coinage.  They have done alot to expose the terror of the IRI to the world.  Don't you wonder why the regime hates them so much?  They are the ones who exposed the Mykonos terror that ultimately led to the conviction of many of the regime's elite (Khamenei, Rafsanjani, Fallahian implicated).  Do you have any proof that they comitted crimes against the Kurds and the Shiites?  Please stick to the tiopic and don't go everywhere with this.  Do you have proof that the MKO was involved in the repression against the Kurds and the Shiites or are we just witnessing the IRI thugs in action in Iraq?  Again, I'm not saying that the MKO is right in everything that it does but you make a statement, then back it up with non-circumstantial evidence.  I am not condoning all of their actions and I would not vote for an MKO in a future democratic Iran.  But at the same time I am not going to parrot the IRI propaganda against them.  Fair is fair.

will mek leadership order their members to burn themselves?

open question:

//www.scribd.com/doc/8283915/Mko-Human-Torche...

To "Poosteh Pesteh" jan, you're too kind and generous

As they used to say : "you should save some for your wedding night," cheers

-Hoshang

Right Now

Mr H Targol Bargol No Need To Wait You Can Have The Balls Right Now

Price of betrayal

Well deserved, that's what they get for siding with the enemy and fighting against their own people.

It is really sad to see

It is really sad to see grand criminals such as these two or Saddam himself are not being accountable for the crimes they committed against Iran. Saddam & his clan were charged and hanged quickly without standing trial for the crimes they committed against the Iranian people. Lets hope these two are brought to justice for their crimes against Iranian people in addition to other innocent people

Mehrdad

About time

and good riddance, some body has to put this "group"  out of their misery. One less cult in Iran, all that's left are Hezbollah and Shahollah, get rid of those two and we'll have a ball.