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To be a Bahai Means..

Dear Bahram,

To be a Bahai Means..

That you accept There is a  Higher Being who has manifested His Knowledge and guidance to mankind through means by which humanity can comprehend.

This Knowledge has been from the beginning handed to us by various Prophets human beings invested with this Divine Knowledge, who Bahais refer to as Manifestaions of God.

As Such, Bahais accept and rever all the past manifestations of God, incluidng, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Muhammad and the Bab. 

Yes Both Baha'u'llah and The Bab were belivers in Islam, just as Jesus Christ was a Jew, until He was given a new message to give to humanity, what 300 years after His death became known as Christianity.

So to be a Bahai, it does not mean you that you are a Muslim; to put it simplistically; to be in the 5th grade , it does not mean that you reject everything that your 4th grade teacher taught you, but accept it as what yor capacity, time and needs allowed you to comprehend , and your teacher taught you accordingly.

All religons are in essence the progressive chapters of the same book and Author ;theyonly  differ according to the changing needs of their day.

The Sun, on Monday is the same Sun on Friday...

A Bahai of Jewish or Christian background, by accepting Baha'u'llah as the latest (but not the last)  revelation of God has to accept the Divine authority of Islam as a religionsuited for a specific time and place. Historyand our current experience with trying to reform Islam and sharia law is a good example of this.

lastly , one correction;

It was the Bab who claimed to be the Qaim, not Baha'u'llah.

In turn the Bab, heralded the apperance of one 'greatr" than He, as :He whom God Shall Make Manifest"

Baha'u'llah and His Message fulfill the prromise of a new era, and a new age of peace and prosperity, onw which has been awaited and promised in all the previous religions.

I encourage you to read this,as this is a expansive subject;

//reference.bahai.org/en/t/se/WOB/wob-42.html

Here is an excerpt: 

Humanity’s Coming of Age

"The Revelation of Bahá’u’lláh, whose supreme mission is none other but the achievement of this organic and spiritual unity of the whole body of nations, should, if we be faithful to its implications, be regarded as signalizing through its advent the coming of age of the entire human race. It should be viewed not merely as yet another spiritual revival in the ever-changing fortunes of mankind, not only as a further stage in a chain of progressive Revelations, nor even as the culmination of one of a series of recurrent prophetic cycles, but rather as marking the last and highest stage in the stupendous evolution of man’s collective life on this planet. The emergence of a world community, the consciousness of world citizenship, the founding of a world civilization and culture—all of which must synchronize with the initial stages in the unfoldment of the Golden Age of the Bahá’í Era—should, by their very nature, be regarded, as far as this planetary life is concerned, as the furthermost limits in the organization of human society, though man, as an individual, will, nay must indeed as a result of such a consummation, continue indefinitely to progress and develop...."

Fartash...

I asked you specific questions about your sources on Hojatiyeh and i asked you to present some facts.

Heck.. forget the facts ... just quote someone that you overheard.

And the best you can come up with is to say i am a paid agent from IR? 

Your report is based on second hand rumours about people that you "think" belong to Hojatiyeh ideology. While naming these people on your report, you have conveniently left out their denial and condemnation of this ideology. I posted Ahmadinejad's reply to the same question that was asked from him in Iran and yet you completely ignored this fact. May i remind you that reporting is not about proving your fallacious claims and actually requires dignity and a whole lot of fairness.

You are not a reporter. You are a can of tuna fish at best.

Yep Curly,

You're right , they (no fear) just have to check their pay checks and open their eyes. I won't write an article and sent it to CNN ireport base on illusions.

" Hojjatiology " by FartashPhoto - Most Recent Article in CNN ireport ~

//www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-416002

Am I correct to say

In order to be a Baha'i, one must 1) to be a muslim and 2) to be of Shies faith. After all Bahaullah was of shia faith which simply claimed he is the 12th imam

In 1850 Did They Kill The Qaim They Still Await ?

Dear Bahram

Here is a great link to a brief but concise account of the history of the Bab and Baha'u'llah. It points to Audio clips of the book, Tolui Digar

you may download or listen to perhaps the most fascinating period of our recent history, whose causality is critical and relevant to current events in Iran and the world,  

//www.aeenebahai9.info/node/616

Alternatively, from an impartial Non Bahai Scholar Dr Bahram Choubineh

A radio Interview; a truly fascinating programme.

Part 1

//www.farhangiran.com/films/bonyad/Choubineh-...

Part 2

//www.farhangiran.com/films/bonyad/Choubineh-...

I thought 12th emam was already here

I don't see any comment from Bahais here. I thought in Bahais faith the 12th emam already came almost 100 years ago. Can some one clarify that please - many thanks

Not dat I care for Dore Gold, but look at d nuts on our side 2

فریدالدین حدادعادل، از آقازادگان عضو محافل امنیتی و نزدیک به کانون های قدرت، با پیش بینی رخداد یک جنگ بزرگ در منطقه و آوردن دلایلی پنجگانه برای درگیر شدن ایران در جنگ، از آن به شدت استقبال کرد و خاطرنشان ساخت "اجداد ما بر روی زین اسب بزرگ شده اند و ما اگر جنگ كنیم، قطعا خاطرهای تلخ در خاطر دشمن رقم خواهیم زد." وی تصریح کرد "با شکست سبزها، اکنون دشمن به حملۀ نظامی مجاب شده است."  

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این آقازادۀ اصولگرا و مورد بحث، در مطلبی جنجالی که امروز در وبگاه خود منتشر نمود، ضمن ادعا و پیش بینی اینکه "به دلایل خاصی در آیندۀ نه چندان دور درگیر جنگی بزرگ خواهیم بود"، "قرائن و دلایل مشخص" خود برای وقوع آن جنگ را چنین بیان می کند.

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//www.rahesabz.net/story/11378/ 

Ya Imam Zaman ...!

Ya Imam Zaman, help us to climb out of the deep and dark hole we dug for ourselves.
 

AIPAC is really thirsty for this war. Wow.

They will say anything. No shame at all this time, but then again, was there any shame in what happened with invading Iraq? 

no fear or i should say no brain?

look at your pay check see who signed it? hojatiyeh is alive and well in top IRI government .your avatar says it all.

Faux News

Perhaps those people in Faux news and in the payroll of Rupert Murdock  should have had a special about RAPTURE as well.

-YT 

FOX?!

Explains it all...

Ask Baha'is about Hojjatieh

Ask Baha'is about Hojjatieh. They have first hand experience.

احمقانه ترین جمله های سیاست مداران دنیا

احمدی نژاد ، رتبه ی دوم

//rt.com/Politics/2009-08-27/10-silliest-quotes-politicians.html?utm_source=2leep&utm_medium=2leep&utm_campaign=2leep

HAPPENING NOW

scare mongering 101. hitler would be proud. 

Crazy Ahmaghinejad

 Everytime  Ahmaghinejad eats he put two plates on the table one for Emam and one for himself. As they say he has some type of  psychosis and hallucination and talk to his imaginary friend 3 times a day!

New strategy? is it better?

The new strategy won't work either dear AIPAC. No country and decent people like below the belt hits and consider it low blow. The religious practices, including crazy practices in Judaism, is common and to try to link the personal practice to a country's nuclear program is just as low as you would expect from Fox news and their funding fathers: Israeli government.

Although Fox news is a "biased" organization, but.....

I don`t know how many of you know anout Hijjatieh or their believes! I can`t consider myself an expert on them but what I know I would share here with you!

Hojjatieh was outlawed and sent to the darkside like everything else in IRI when they don`t know how to handle the truth. And that was done by Khomeini the master of disaster! The Hojjatieh members didnot disppear they just hid under different banners. One of the most famous member of that group or idealogy is Dr. Akbar Velayati! yes! Dr. Velayarti which has been involved in the IRI from the beginning and has never changed his fundemetalist views still is the greatest advocate to the supreme leader. This guy and many like him after they were outlawed didn`t hesitate to disown Hojjatieh and became normal shiiaiet (if you want to believe that then you are very simple minded) I don`t know anyone would ever change their believes specially at that age after all that education and actually living and graduating from USA`s universities!

If you do, then you are indeed a simple minded. Fox news and that Israeli guy all are biased people, but I believe there are some truth to the story and Hojjatieh has gained strength after the death of Khomeini under the imbicle Khamenei!

Here is Ahmadinejad take on Hojatiyeh ...

نوشتند كه احمدي‌نژاد در هيأت ‏دولت موقع نهار، يك ظرف غذا هم براي حضرت روي ميز مي‌چيند! احمدي‌نژاد در دوره شهرداري، مسير حركت ‏كاروان حضرت از مكه به تهران را پيشاپيش آسفالت كرده است! احمدي‌نژاد مدعي ارتباط با حضرت شده و گران ‏شدن برنج را، محصول مديريت حضرت و تصميم ايشان دانسته است! و اين در حالي بود كه من چند بار گفته‌ام كه ‏برخي گراني‌ها، و نه همه آنها، اتفاقاً محصول مديريت پنهان و ائتلاف مافيايي در بازار با برخي سياستمداران از همان نوعي ‏كه گفتم و كار كساني است كه پس از سه سال، هنوز هم رأي مردم را فصل الخطاب ندانسته و به اراده مردم در ‏انتخابات رياست جمهوري نهم، تسليم نشده اند و از مردم و دولت، يكجا انتقام مي‌گيرند.»

Fartash...

What kind of a half assed reporting job is this?

How do you know about hojatiyeh? 

This group ( If exists now ) , is hidden in dark corners of Qom seminaries holding secretive meetings. How do you know who belongs to this school of thought that is actually AGAINST the doctorine of " Velayateh Fagih"?

Mesbah Yazdi has actually denied being a member of this group and he has openly embraced " Velayateh Fagih " doctorine along with Ahmadinejad.

Are you well connected with the seminaries or is your reporting based on unproven facts and rumours? Do you know something more ( Aside from circumstantial garbage  ) that you might want to share with us?

Hojjatiology

" Hojjatiology " by FartashPhoto - Most Recent Article in CNN ireport ~

//www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-416002

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sounds like preparation for a war.

LOL ..

Only from FOX news... LOL