AFP: Opposition leader Mehdi Karroubi is prepared to go on trial over the unrest which followed Iran’s disputed presidential poll in June 2009 but wants the trial open to the public, his Web site reported Monday. His offer came after Tehran prosecutor Abbas Jaffari Dolatabadi threatened Friday to file criminal charges against opposition leaders such as Karroubi and Mir Hussein Mousavi for their “seditionist” role in the post-vote violence. He was also referring to remarks that two-time President Mohammad Khatami, one of the leaders of the opposition, made last week regarding future elections in the Islamic Republic >>>
First published in khodnevis.org
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A very sharp and revealing "graphic critique,"
by Hooshang Tarreh-Gol on Tue Jan 04, 2011 08:28 PM PSTat the same time lest we forget the possibility discussed below:
برای بعد از دستگيری احتمالی رهنورد و کروبی و موسوی آماده شويم!
خواب نوشين بامداد رحيل
باز دارد پياده را ز سبيل
//www.roshangari.net/as/sitedata/201101030928...
EY VAL EY VAL
by Golinedairani on Tue Jan 04, 2011 07:10 PM PSTSosmar
by Aladin Katoor on Tue Jan 04, 2011 06:27 PM PSTMr. Nic Ahang proved that he is able to draw a cartoon that is not Ahmadi-nejad and is not Sosmar. In the past year the only cartoon he created was Ahmadiejad. It is better to look at my cartoon about Sosmar.
//iranian.com/main/blog/aladin-katoor/caricaturist-and-sosmar
They are phony!
by statira on Tue Jan 04, 2011 06:13 PM PSTThey just fighting among themselves and for themselves. They are all the same. For someone who has lived in Iran for a long period during the Islamic regime, I can tell for sure that Khomeini was 100 times worse than Khamenei. For these people Khomeini is Emam who was going to create Madineh Fazele and Khalkahli is a great judge!
Yeah Well Ari Jaan If He doesn't Kill himself Now it's a Miracle
by Darius Kadivar on Tue Jan 04, 2011 11:55 AM PSTIn itself ...
Cause at this rate The Pahlavis are doing it for us It seems ... With or without the IRI's benediction ... Or that of the Jomhurykhah's ( Not You) who wish to see IRan's Revolution from the distorted historic perspective of the so called Virtuous French Guiilotine ...
VIRTUE IN TERROR: Maximilien Robespierre and the Reign of Terror (BBC)
HISTORY FORUM: Bahram Moshiri's Take on The French Revolution and Why He Misses The Point ;0)
Anyways I suppose you'll have your Republic after all ...
Dunno what to say or What to think anymore ...
Darius
by Ari Siletz on Tue Jan 04, 2011 11:28 AM PSTAPOLOGIES FOR MY OUTBURST !
by Darius Kadivar on Tue Jan 04, 2011 11:32 AM PSTTRIBUTE TO THE PERSIAN PRINCE: Prince Ali Reza Pahlavi (1966-2011)
Karroubi
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Tue Jan 04, 2011 09:59 AM PSTI really think Karroubi is a half decent guy. Now I am ready for the assult on me to come. But I have been watching his behavior. He may be an Akhoond and that is pretty bad. However he has shown signs of intelligence that the others have not.
Still I would not vote for him or want him in power. But he does provide the pole required to break the IR.
VPK
Khamenei
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Tue Jan 04, 2011 09:56 AM PSTis just exactly what people need to reject Islamism. A kinder gentler VF would prolong the IR. But then Khamenei will put the stake so deep in it that will do it in for good.
Fesenjoon Jan
by Doctor mohandes on Tue Jan 04, 2011 09:40 AM PSTTo borrow your own words:
If this nationalistic midground was Shift-worthy or shiftable:)) Ta hala mishifteed.
So you are Wrong on concluding that our society is Homogenized. Far from it.
Akhoond taking Akhoond to court .WOW
by عموجان on Tue Jan 04, 2011 08:29 AM PSTThis never happened before, Usually they just kill the bad Akhoond then they put him on open trial to the public. Can’t wait, my popcorns are popping (I mean Tookhme)
can any of learned friends here explain why....
by Roozbeh_Gilani on Tue Jan 04, 2011 08:17 AM PSTNeither Mr. Karoubi, nor Mr. Mousavi have been yet arrested and put on trial, despite all the repeated threats by the current Hojjatieh wing of the velayate faghih regime ruling Iran today after the post election Ahmadinezhad/Khamenei led coup? Is the regime worried about another major uprising or something else?
BTW, your cartoon is very good and a refreshing change from the usual 'visual forms of humour" we get here.
"Personal business must yield to collective interest."
Well SPink Jaan the trouble with You and Your Pedigree ;0)
by Darius Kadivar on Tue Jan 04, 2011 05:36 AM PSTOn the otherhand Is that you both clearly have had your heads stuck somewhere else ...
La ville de moncuq
No Wonder the Restored Pahlavi Monarchy will have to make amendments to improve the Imperfect Qajar Draft ...
Too bad your Treacherous Pedigree's contributions won't be acknowledged by history for it's accomplishments ...
But Oh Well You know the expression : Nobody is Perfect ...
And Certainly Not Your Pedigree :
Some like it hot - last lines
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooool
lol w/Darius
by Sargord Pirouz on Tue Jan 04, 2011 05:22 AM PSTI'm not the aggrieved. You poor folks are. If you took your heads out of the sand for a change, maybe you wouldn't be so out of touch with the political realities of the day.
But hey, I think you've become so accustomed to inner personal misery, you'd feel queer without it. So be it!
SPink Jaan Great Since I'll welcome Your Grief ... ;0)
by Darius Kadivar on Tue Jan 04, 2011 04:59 AM PSTWholeheartedly Upon Restoration ...
The Tudors: Anne is beheaded
LOL
Good grief, Darius. My great
by Sargord Pirouz on Tue Jan 04, 2011 04:50 AM PSTGood grief, Darius. My great grandfather personally wrote large sections of that document in 1906. That was nearly 100 years ago. My ancestor has been dead now for nearly 70 years.
The country has moved on. I suggest you people stop with the looking back and get with it. Stop being so out of touch. Iran is the Islamic Republic of Iran. Face reality.
If you seek change, vote in Iran;s elections. But you must live with the results. Or don't and remain self-exiles. The country is way better off without you, anyway.
Have you noticed "Fred" writer type B
by Sargord Pirouz on Tue Jan 04, 2011 04:44 AM PSTseems to be the only one from the "Fred" propagandist effort that posts comments on other's threads?
Unfortunately this person is also the worst writer in the group.
Playacting the part
by Fred on Tue Jan 04, 2011 04:39 AM PSTIslamist Rapists including their former “Prime Minister” during whose time thousands of Iranian men, women and children were murdered in cold blood, keep shouting they love their “Imam” and want things back to his days.
Apparently their past deeds and current words are not to be believed, they are just playacting the part of messianic Islamist murderers with the Iranian people as their real victims.
Irrational Devotion ? What's So Rational about Reforming this ?
by Darius Kadivar on Tue Jan 04, 2011 03:32 AM PSTFarrokhzad Explains the Tozihol Massael
A Bad IDEA is a BAD IDEA !
Something that 1906 Clearly Was NOT !
Darius,1906 qualifies as legitimate
by Ari Siletz on Tue Jan 04, 2011 03:17 AM PSTAri Jaan who said it wasn't legitimate or had to be forced upon?
by Darius Kadivar on Tue Jan 04, 2011 02:59 AM PSTThe 1906 Constitution is Historically Legitimate given that it was passed on to us by our forefather's who first struggled to have it implemented through a national upheaval as our first democratic draft in 25 centuries of Absolutism:
PARLIAMENTARY DEMOCRACY: Mozaffaredin Shah Signs First Draft of the Constitution (1906)
PARLIAMENTARY DEMOCRACY: Shah Delivers Speech to Parliament (1951)
Pro Bakhtiar Demonstrations in Support of the 1906 Constitution
pictory: Bakhtiar Denounces Bazargan's Provisionary Government in exile (1979)
and definitively more than anything we have endorsed blindly and ignorantly as "Legitimate" since that Fatal day 30 years ago :
Footage of the 1979 referendum of the Islamic Republic of Iran
What historical Legitimacy does the current Constitution have which the former doesn't ? ...
THE PAST IS A FOREIGN COUNTRY: How Would You Evaluate Iran's Democracy Index in 1953 ?
Is it not being being forced upon on us by force and Violence regardless of the national upheaval ?
I have always said that the key to Iran becoming a democracy is not leadership but an IDEA !
A Sovereign per se from a Constitutional Point of view is Not a Leader but at best an Arbitrator.
All this may sound sophisticated theory at first glance but in practice it is not.
The Current Regime is at Odds with EVERYTHING this land has stood for in it's long history. Not just with the concept of democracy but the very concept of Iranian pride, self dignity and self respect.
You cannot fool a nation for ever and this regime will come to an end under it's own contradictions but more importantly because it has insulted the intelligence of the nation at large:
GIVE ME BACK MY COUNTRY: Bold Poem by a fellow compatriot denounces Ahmadinejad's Iran
Words For Eternity ...
People are realizing the Hypocrisy of this situation more and more as days pass.
And those IRI Think Tanks be it in Iran or in the US who believe in Reforming a Dead Horse will live their disappointments with even a harder blow to their so called Republican ideals.
Cause the Real question today is not between the Islamic Republic and a Republic ...
But Democracy and No Democracy.
Iran will be if not already is at Historical crossroads with people demanding historical accountability for all that has gone wrong in the past 30 years which sacrificed an entire generation.
Politics or History is Not Rocket Science. No one today be it you nor me can predict what will happen or if we will even achieve democracy in our lifetimes but what is certain is that when a nation reaches a historical crossroad as has been the case since last Summer to such high costs, the people will demand reparations for having been fooled and humiliated.
A Divided Nation can only heal it's scars by honestly evaluating the pros and cons of it's past errors and seeking an alternative that can offer Hope for a better future and national reconciliation around key issues like Human Rights and Democracy.
Can the IDEA of a Secular Jomhury offer such a Solution while maintaining the country together ?
Maybe on the short term But I don't think it can on the long term be it with or without a Charismatic leadership.
What can hold Iran together is a Charismatic IDEA that conciliates our National Identity and Democratic aspirations.
That is where Constitutionalism finds it's Entire Legitimacy which transcends the historical error of 30 years ago where we thought that Toppling the Monarch was the solution.
Crown Prince Reza is Not our Leader he is merely our Legitimate Sovereign.
For that is what a Monarch role is all about: To stand above Political rivalries and divisions .
Sooner or later people will have to come to terms with this reality if they ever hope to see Iran back on the Track of social and political progress.
Anything short of that will be an Open door of opportunity to anyone who wishes to see Iran fall into bits:
SEPARATIST TEMPTATIONS: Don't Let It Fool You ... Treason Exists ...
I do not believe that Neither you nor any other genuine Secular Jomhurykhah wish to see that happen.
Or Do You ? ...
That is why I insist on the IDEA and Not the Person. RP 2 is merely the embodiment of that IDEA Not the Person who will implement it.
That will depend on All of Us in Society and mainly back home:
REZA's CALL: An Iranian Solidarnosc... by DK
But that does not mean that we cannot or should not offer a helping hand in any capacity as possible as was the case when Poland's Solidarity movement started off.
But as long as we Iranians don't learn to put aside our "Megalomaniac" tendancies best expressed by our support of any Wannabe PResident to be:
Amir Jahanchahi: Iranian Idiot of the Day | Iranian.com
or of our recurrent Conspiracy theories and Suspicions of one another, we cannot nor ever will be a counted as a Mature Nation capable of implementing a Democratic and social Model that will lead us to be accepted and respected once again in the Family of Nations:
Shah of Iran at the United Nations 1948My Humble Opinion
DK
Darius
by Ari Siletz on Tue Jan 04, 2011 02:08 AM PSTAri Jaan You want a more Mild /Gentle Supreme Leader? No problem
by Darius Kadivar on Tue Jan 04, 2011 01:39 AM PSTBrought to you by "Le Bon Samaritain":
SATIRE: I voted ;0)
Recommended Blogs:
ROYAL FORUM: Explaining the Concept of a Constitutional Monarchy to a Staunch Republican
CONSTITUTIONALIST FORUM: Daryoush Homayoun Political and Journalistic life Honored in Germany
fussygorilla
by Fesenjoon on Tue Jan 04, 2011 01:16 AM PSTLoved your last sentence.
Yes, this regime is here to stay. Otherwise it would have been gone by now if it was raftanee.
Congratulations IRIB. 30 yrs of brainwashing ppl to conformity has finally given you a homogeneized society. Now all that remains is to start a war with the west, and shift the nationalist middleground (which already hates America) to the right, so that the social engineering project of the revolution will be complete. Allaho Akbar!
If Khomeini was alive, theyd kill everyone like they did in '88, you dumbass Greens!
Naysayers
by Fred on Tue Jan 04, 2011 01:13 AM PSTTalking down to Iranians and deciding what is right for them and what they are ready for, is not the exclusive working theory of the ruling Islamist Rapists.
Naysayers like it or not, with Constitutional Revolution under her belt, Iran has proven her grit and love of democratic freedom.
Who needs democracy?
by Azadeh Azad on Tue Jan 04, 2011 10:39 AM PSTIn my working experience in Iran with the Tehran working class people, as well as in my *private* dialogues and discussions with many ordinary people in different Iranian cities and villages:
1) with a very few exceptions, they were all extremely hostile to the Islamic regime as a whole, with or without a supreme leader! Practising Muslims among them were more disgusted by the whole Islamic regime than the non-practising ones.
2) - They were certainly not theorised about democracy; but when I asked them if they liked to choose all our leaders and politicians by vote, they responded ''Of course!'' When I asked them, ''Do you like our leaders and politicians to be accountable to people,'' they said ''Of course!'' And when I asked them if they preferred to decide by themselves - without being told by the State - what to wear and how to behave in public (what we call ''personal freedoms''), they said ''Yes,'' and most of them added that it was because of the imposition of Hijab and limitation of people's comings and goings and what they did inside their homes or in the parks that there was such a high number of druggies, prostitutes and Johns, corruption and general hypocrisies.
These experiences convince me that Iranians living inside the country, although they are not using political terms while expressing their opinions, WILL WELCOME DEMOCRACY & PERSONAL FREEDOMS if these are offered to them.
I did not get the impression that our compatriots wanted a *better* Supreme Leader. And in the context of what's going on in Iran, it is impossible to know how many non-diaspora Iranians are looking for *a gentler dictator.*
The political opinions Iranians express privately and when alone, is completely different from what they think they have to say in public. Individual Iranians (even the villagers) do hate Khomeini as much as Khamenei.
Azadeh
JJ, democratic chicken and egg dilemma
by Ari Siletz on Tue Jan 04, 2011 12:51 AM PSTOn Supreme Leaders
by No Fear on Tue Jan 04, 2011 12:36 AM PSTYou guys seem to forget how Ayat. Khomeini had the ultimate control over every single issue in Iran. He decided how people should dress, what kind of music to listen to, whether to play chess or not , on top of every political decision in Iran including the radicalization of our foreign policy. For Khomeini, only Islam mattered and he openly talked about exporting his revolution.
In comparison, Ayat. Khamenie has been very different than khomeini. He is a lot more diplomatic and unlike khomeini, he is not confrontational. He is a smart politician.
Have you forgot just before the US invasion of iraq, many politicians who are now considered reformists, wanted to join iraq in the fight against US. ( Mohtashamipour speech in defense of sadam hossein in the parliament can still be found on the internet). It was Khamenie who told the reformists to shut up.
It was also Khamenie who stopped the sepah for getting involved in Afghanistan after Taliban had killed our diplomates.
Both those decisions by Khamenie are now considered brilliant moves. I am sure Ayat. Khomeini would have made different decisions.
PS: I am against the involvement of any religious institution with our politics.
Supreme Leader
by Jahanshah Javid on Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:40 PM PSTAri, Iranians in Iran would breath easier with something much less than a democracy. A kinder, gentler Supreme Leader would be better than Khamenei. But to claim that human rights abuses of the past year would not have happened under Khomeini is far from the truth, as Nikahang has shown so brilliantly in his cartoon. Karroubi and Mousavi must break with Khomeini if they want to remain relevant.
calm down Javid
by fussygorilla on Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:35 PM PSTOh, they both were acting out of loyalty to their supporter (U.S.A.and Britain) to undermine the Iranian government and sabotage it. They are both as much Khomeinist as anyone except that their price was not too high. They would sell their mothers if the price were right, it is said. so, calm down and don't take them seriously. The Iranian regime is here to stay for a very very long time because the majority (overwhelming) of the People in Iran support it.
p.s. despite what the expats claim.