Bahai History According to IRI

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20-Jul-2011
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nadeem khan

"how low can you go" What ?

by nadeem khan on

What is Low in that?

Is dancing bad in your faith too?

If Lord Krishna is dancing with Radha his wife his lover? What's low in that? Why is it hurting you? Isn't it a Baha'i belief that Baha'u'llah is the same Lord Krishna?

Singing and Dancing is not considered evil in Islam also, when performed for husband and wife. Then how in a 'latest religion' it can be termed low? This is the manifestation of god with his wife radha. And he is not a normal being. He is god manifested? The creator of everything. If Baha'u'llah (lord Krishna) dances let me dance. Don't term it as LOW.

Don't take it in a negative way. Try to be positive. I don't want to hurt you.


Waders

how low can you go nadeed agha

by Waders on

14 centuries of rediculing and slaughtering produces nothing better than your kind of behavior.     Had you been less jealous of others and just been content with reading your book with an open mind, things would not have been in such shamble.   Maybe thats why Lord Krishna refused a visit, he/she knew you better.    

             


nadeem khan

Baha'o'la dancing with Radha

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Waders

nadeed, get over your jealousy man!!!

by Waders on

you'll feel better.

I am sorry Lord Krishna did not speak to Mohammad(s) and instead an angel was sent.

 

 Afshin Testimony Part1‏ - YouTube 


Freethought111

The IRI on Haifan Bahais

by Freethought111 on

I have seen the second video now. The IRI seems to have a lot of accurate information at its disposal regarding the contemporary Haifan Bahai organization. Their history of the Babi period is debatable but what they say about the contemporary situation, especially RUHI Institutes and the organizational apparatus, minus some of the skewed commentary, is accurate.

 


nadeem khan

I was talking about Lord Krishna (Baha'u'llah)

by nadeem khan on

When Baha'u'llah earlier manifested as Lord Krishna he was born to Janaki (Khadíjih Khánum) //www.krsnabook.com/ch3.html

Here is one more beautiful song praising Baha'u'llah in the typical Indian style.

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFzxLivoQLU

And please mind it, there is nothing negativity here. Don't take it in a negative way. This is a fact. Since Baha'u'llah is the manifestation of lord krishna (God) or whatever the theory, if baha'u'llah is the same krishna (God manifested) then really he had a lot of fun during that period.


Waders

you are doomed to schizophrenia

by Waders on

if you keep reading the same book with the same eynaak.

either change the book or the lenz thats a good challenge 


Freethought111

You are condemned to repeat what you don't learn from

by Freethought111 on

Nadeem is not an agent of the Islamic republic. Neither am I. Nadeem is not even an Iranian. I am. The anti-Bahai propaganda of the regime is utterly laughable in many places, but there are many grains of truth in some of the things they say. The issue is to separate the sensationalist propaganda from the truth. For example, there is not a grain of truth to the so-called tawbeh-nameh (letter of repentence) attributed to the Bab. This letter was authored by Mulla Muhammad Mamaqani himself (one of those who presided over the Bab's trial in Tabriz) and attributed to the Bab. But it is not by the Bab. Yet this piece of fiction is unthinkingly repeated by the regime.

That said, Baha'is (especially Haifan Bahais) are not exactly innocent of fanaticism or persecuting minorities. Organizationally they have a long, well established and amply documented history of perpetrating religious persecution against minorities such as the Bayanis (Azali Babis) and assorted schismatic Baha'i groups. Also never to my knowledge have the Baha'is opened their mouths and advocated on behalf other persecuted peoples. This is what Nadeem is raising and he needs to be heard. You may succeed in silencing people and censoring them here and there, but sooner or later you will need to answer these charges that your own history of violence against minorities and the documented track-record is nearing the level of the Iranian mullahs.

People are not blind to abuse.


Waders

Nadeem, stop invoking Jenns!!!

by Waders on

  Cry Wolf= a mouthful of bigotry   tuthseeker?? is trying to use the agnostic side of the coin to spread his bigotry, and contempt for others and manipulate the good moslems to bully people into Silence. .  This has nothing to do with islam and is a blatant hate mongering of a band of paranoid fanatics who have oppressed everyone in iran including their own brethren.         someone need to ask the dumb and dumber, who is persecuting who!?   wolf in agnostics clothing    Asghar taragh-eh     

Freethought111

Islamophobia = 21st century Anti-Semiticism

by Freethought111 on

The current religious and political leadership in Iran are a group of cut-throat thugs with no respect for anyone and anything other than their own small circle of fellow cut-throat thugs. However the Islamophobia being actively promoted here by certain parties is utterly shameful. If members of the Bahai faith think they can score points with Iranians back in Iran with this kind of hate-speech, they need to think again and wake up to the fact that they are ultimately doing themselves the disservice of sowing more suspicion against themselves by pursuing this line of discourse.

As many have argued, and as Columbia University Professor Hamid Dabashi has written in print, Islamophobia is nothing but an evolved form of Anti-Semiticism.  If you want to criticize the behaviour of Muslim clerics and fanatics who follow them, that is one thing. But indicting an entire tradition, when you yourselves on the surface claim to respect this tradition and say you came out of it, only makes yourselves look like the creeps and perpetrators!

Nadeem has also raised some valid points. He/she is not a Hojjati (which as an organization no longer exists) nor an Iranian. Leveling accusations that he/she is on the payroll of the regime is utterly contemptible by those making such accusations and shows that these people have no valid response to the points made by Nadeem. 


Waders

powerful?! here see some powerful Jenns

by Waders on

stop the deafening/blinding envy and maybe you will save yourself some face.   Watch this testimony and ponder why after 14 centuries still cant get it right!     U cant reach the heavens from the hell of hate violence and envy and if you do that would be Devils heaven not the real deal.     Afshin Testimony Part1‏ - YouTube    you see the smell of sulfur is from the reader not the Book!    

faryarm

American Mother & Daughter Singing Praises of 19 Century Persian

by faryarm on

Is it not amazing that , here we are in the 21st century watching a western mother and daughter singing the praises of a 19th Century Persian Man whose Message of Peace and the coming Unity of a New World in 19th Century,was met with the violent opposition of the Shia establishment, whose descendants rule Iran today leading to Baha'u'llah's Imprisonment and exile by the two most powerful Islamic powers of the time, The Ottoman and Persian Kings.

The hidden intention of the Person who posted this video,was to ridicule; He is perhaps blind to the ignorant prejudice he harbors;ignorant of the real power and influence of a spiritual message that has touched the hearts of millions away from the borders of Iran, the land of its founders and of its birth; iRAN.


faryarm

Is it nadeem , Nima or Wahid Khan :)

by faryarm on

Is it nadeem , Nima or Wahid Khan :)


nadeem khan

This is more poweful then the earlier

by nadeem khan on

This is a hindu chant regarding Baha'u'llah. Actually Baha'u'llah is himself Lord Krishna. He is the 9th or 10th Avtar of Lord Krishna. When Baha'u'llah was born first time as lord krishna in the mediaeval period. He was very naughty. He had 100 Gopis. He used to steal curd from neighbours. He was really very naughty! Manifestation of God !

About the relationship of Lord Krishna (Baha'u'llah) and 100 Gopis, please refer to any book about Lord Krishna (Baha'u'llah).

This chant praising Baha'u'llah (Lord Krishna) is really coool. Wonderful.

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv4UV9O5drw

 


nadeem khan

Waders, this is also good.

by nadeem khan on

I have some more videos of 'energetic' young baha'i girls dancing and celebrating the birthday of baha'u'llah. This is only singing, no dancing ! I love this video... very nice.


Waders

Nadim, which one is u?

by Waders on

 

 singing-and-dancing-iri-tv

tabrik by the way!

 

 

 

 


faryarm

The comedy of Anti Bahai posts...

by faryarm on

Please look ahead, and look for a more honest hobby/ career; your days as an anti Bahai, although a terrible one bordering comedy, are truly numbered...your commanders in Etellaat, realizing their total loss of credibility know that and resort to more desperate measures by the day.. 

Please dont embarrass them.. :) 

No matter what you do or say, and how you cloth your posts...they reek of dishonest intent.

Iranians are not stupid, they no longer fall for  IR lies and deception ..especially those who actually have Bahai friends. 


nadeem khan

Waders, be cool man !!!

by nadeem khan on

Listen to this cool Baha'i prayer. Don't get exited ! I havn't said anything wrong.

 


Waders

a late bloomer in the belly of the Iranian nation

by Waders on

Ghadim KHAN

 

You are in the belly of the Iranian nation, making her sick.

She will soon either throw you up or you come out the other end.

 

There is no option for your kind but to become civilized with or without a prophet.

Your snake in the grass hissing has come all the way to the pastor in Florida. 

If your idealogy could deliver you could'v managed your own kind instead of delivering the whole moslem population of Iran into the hands of Western democracy. YOU HAVE FAILED. 

Now holding a bunch of defenseless Bahais as well as the whole Shia population of Iran under siege and harassment will not revive your Imam Ali(A). Neither will your scheming and deception abase a true religion.

Now go find some friends instead of inviting the iron the IRON FIEST.

And if your Bahai friend, (the prisoner) was right about  gabriel and mohammad(S) why let that bother you?? There is no compulsion in religion now IS THERE!?

Shalom 

 


nadeem khan

Dear Faryar

by nadeem khan on

There are more than 3 million baha'is in Iran as per your say. And how many are persecuted? How many are in prison? 42? I have many H. Baha'i friends in Iran. Some of them are very good!!! I have a few Azali friends also. But I haven't met any orthodox Baha'i in Iran. I have searched and found a website and there are a few in Iran also. I want to make friendship with them also.


stavackoli

Nadeem's ever-present mis-information

by stavackoli on

Nadeem Khan who is present on any and all blogs about the Baha'i Faith (apparently because he/she has nothing better to do), keeps putting the covenant-breakers of the Baha'i Faith on the same level as, say, Protestants vs. Catholics.  Whereas there is really no written document anywhere to suggest who is right and who is wrong within Christianity or Islam for that matter; there is WRITTEN documents to describe who is and who is not a Baha'i.  Just because someone comes along and wants to call themselves a Baha'i and pick and choose what or who they believe, does not make them a Baha'i.  Their claims are very much akin to someone coming along and saying "this instrument you write with, what do you call it? pen? well, I am gonna call it a book from now on".  Well, I am sorry there is already a rather popular concept of what is a pen and what is a book and these items are not up for "new naming", and neither is the Baha'i Faith.  You can not go about calling these other guys Baha'is simply because the "Haifan" Baha'is as you call them, who by the way number more than 6 or 7 million now as compared to the few hundred of these misguided souls, have written documentation to show who was left in charge of the Faith from one person to the next.  

And oh by the way, we have no strife and The Faith has not caused any strife with anyone else, we just do not associate with these guys as you would not with someone who would falsely claim to be your son or daughter and try to benefit from their false claims. We pray for them. 


faryarm

How many "Bahai friend" does the IR Sazeman Etellaat Have?Nadeem

by faryarm on

Further , what is the Islamic Republic's anti Bahai campagn's.official spelling for Baha'u'llah whose defenseless followers are so threatening to the IR establishment ..?


Ari Siletz

Amirparviz

by Ari Siletz on

Yes, balancing on just one leg of the tripod (meehan) maybe asking too much. Fact remains however that we destroyed khoda (the IRI mess) and shah (79 revolution) and "wishing it to be different is not just futile and unrealistic, it is not helpful." Looking for alternatives.


nadeem khan

One of my Baha'i friend

by nadeem khan on

told me that it was Baha'u'llah who sent Angel Gabreel to Prophet Mohammed. It was Baha'u'llah who talked to Prophet Moses on mount sinai and such other things. Then this is the blessed age because this is the age of Baha'o'la himself.


nadeem khan

Dear Maryam Hojjat

by nadeem khan on

I would like to correct a small mistake of yours. Many people do not know this, even many of the Baha'is do not know this fact, that it was Bab who claimed to be the 12th Emam and not Baha'u'llah.

Baha'u'llah claimed that he is the God Manifested. He said that he was God in the human form.

The reason for hating the Baha'is is not only this. There are many other factors. I love the principle of Baha'is of "Independent Invetigation of Truth".

If you love too, please investigate yourself. Don't believe just what is said to you by these Haifan Baha'is.

I love this quote also :

"if a religion becomes the cause of strife it's absence is better"

see this //www.sectsofbahais.com

 


amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

Ari Iranians are what they are wishing for it to be different

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on

is not just futile and unrealistic, its not helpful.

Iranian culture has put in the veins of iranians these 3 concepts in the following order.

Khoda

Shah

Mihan

this is unique to iranians and will not change in our life time as it took thousands of years to develop.

The problem is the corruption of irans religous authorities in combinaton with foreign support for the corrupt elements, in the undeclared aim of despoiling iran and sending her backwards.

If one can see exactly how things are, then the alteratives become crystal clear for anyone that sincerely wants freedom for iran. 


Maryam Hojjat

Bahai Religion would End to the Akhoonds' business

by Maryam Hojjat on

Since these bastards were always part of political scene in the past, They used their infuence to supress the Bahais. 

Bahai religion does not have Akhoonds.

Bahaollah said he is the Emam e 12.

These are the reasons that akhoons are afraid of bahaies.


Maryam Hojjat

Rastgoo, Well Said

by Maryam Hojjat on

I had expressed the same wish for Iranians to change their religion to Bahai or Zorasterianizm which are Iranian religions. 


Mona 19

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by Mona 19 on

تاریخ بهایی را هر جور که به مذاق گروه حجتیه خوش باشد بازگو می‌‌کنند و بعضی‌ عکس‌ها هم زیر نویس اشتباه داره ( برای مثال ، آرامگاه حضرت بهألله در عکا را منزل ایشان در ترکیه می‌‌نویسد .....و البته قابل ذکر است تنها جمهوری اسلامی که می‌‌تواند وزیر بی‌ لیاقت و معتصب مذهبی‌ را باکفایت معرفی‌ کند.

در قسمت آخر فیلم که منطقه محروم مهدی آباد شیراز را نشان می‌‌دهند ، حداقل جوانان شیراز (بهایی و تعدادی مسلمان) به سراغ این کودکان و نوجوانان رفتند ! شما که می‌‌دانستید این هم وطنان با فقر دست و پنجه نرم می‌‌کنند، بدون مکان آموزشی‌ و تفریحی هستند و در جایی که به یه خرابه بیشتر شبیه هست سکونت می‌‌کنند چرا کاری برای اینها نکردید؟؟؟

فقط رئیس جمهور بلده ادعا کند که شعیب بن صالح هست, ظهور نزدیک است و پول نفت را که به قول خودش قرار بود سر سفره‌ها بیاره آتش بزنه وسینه دلسوزی برای مردم کشورهای دیگه بزنه ولی‌ دریغ از قدمی که برای مردم ایران برداره

مونا


nadeem khan

if a religion becomes the cause of strife it's absence is better

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