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truthseeker, tell me about it!

I fully agree with you. I lived and studied in london for 7 years during 1990's  and used to travel  all the way up to anfield to watch Liverpool whenever I could afford the ticket price. The crowd violence and chants were quite something, and they had no  bassijis in England, at least in those days!

But I do wish for them to leave spice girls out of it!

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."

Roozbeh

You should come to English football games and see what they shout about David Beckham's wife! The Iranian football crowd are tame in comparison.

Roozbeh

all your explanation are well taken.

Still, I am asking only one question:

Was it really necessary for you to write here : Bassiji , your mom vagina?

What for?

That message of the "working class" we had already heard it in the video. If you had something  substantial to say or to add, I would welcome it..........but this? Honestly it was misplaced.

Sorry guys if you don't like what I say. I didn't like what you said, either.

Now, shab khosh. It's late night here.

Good luck.

Souri Kanoom, you are shooting the messanger!

I was only quoting what the crowd said. 

Did I say I agreed or disagreed with the actual slogan? No

Would I join the chants if I was there? who knows (I used to do all kinds of chants as an avid teen age footbal fan visiting amjadieh, but now I'm nearly 40 and better behave myself)!

Would I join the bigger crowd chanting "Bassiji gomsho..."? Yes, for sure!

Was I pleased to hear these chants? Yes, very. It clearly shows the deep lines between the islamist regime and the people. Not only students but majority of people. I still remember as a child saying goodby to young bassijis in my neighberhood of narmak going to war with Iraq. I knew most of those kids, in their early teens. Some were great football players. Lots of them never came back. A few are still around and I always visit them with a small present (vitamins, painkeelers....) whenever I am back home. they all were shocked and angered by these " bassijis' attacks on the people post 2009 election and wanted me to know.

Are these chanting crowd "Lumpen"? No, they are not. They are "working class", albeit not in our vision of what working class should be. I know them and their language well, I grew up amongst them, went to school with them before I had the luck of coming abroad and a decent education and a job, thanks to my father's life saving and his passion for the education that he was himself denied because of his love for Iran and it's people and his opposition to another blood sucking dictator....

The real "lumpens" are these islamist bassijis, attacking, beating, knifing and killing the poor, working class south tehrani and shahrestani students at Tehran university dorms and getting away with it, for the time being at least...

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."

I got the picture

Thanks Faramarz jon. That was a funny but sadly the real picture. Now I understand them better.

Still, as I mentioned before, I was talking only to Roozbeh and said i didn't approve his personal reaction to the event.

What the people do in Amjadieh in the heat of a situation like you just described , is not the same thing that an informed and intellectual Iranian in the west, does. I have lots of respect for Roozbeh, that's why I wanted his comment being deleted. This site has a much greater image of him, than this.

I don't know what I would do if I were in Amjadieh at that day and in that exact moment :)

But here, we are away from all  this.

Souri

I disagree with your statement...

Basiji k** nanat is a strong political slogan
Much like "F*** DA POLICE" of black America

Sometimes truth needs to be told uncut and this was a testament of how Basij is hated by regular people

When in Ghom, do as the Ghomans do!

Souri Jon,

I have spent a good part of my youth in Amjadieh and Azadi Stadium and can easily relate to what took place there on Wednesday. I know that vulgar language is not acceptable and in the rarified air of the western world it is not looked upon favorably. But please hear me out on this one! Here is the dynamics of what goes on in the stands.

As a soccer fan, you have been waiting all week for this important match and are looking forward to seeing your team win against the Saudi Arabian team and go to the next round. You haven’t even slept the night before and got to the stadium 5 hours early to soak in the atmosphere and be among your comrades!

Then walks in a bunch of Basiji animals whose main aim is to disrupt the game and send everyone home upset, your team gets punished for lack of crowd control and another season is wasted!

Now, you can go down the stairs and confront them and get into a fist fight, but they will come after you like a pack of wolves and you don’t know if your fellow spectators are actually going to jump in there and help you. You also know that these guys will be waiting for you outside the stadium in numbers and will take you in. Now you can say lame things like, “Basiji Haya Kon!” Or you can say something in their own language, something that would make them burn inside and be humiliated! Like something about their mothers!

If I were there yesterday, I would have joined the crowd without any hesitations! 

I am not suggesting the

I am not suggesting the aristocracy and intellectuals should follow the Lumpen Masses. I was merely suggesting such outbursts are good gauge of public's dissatissfaction with Moozdoran.

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just out of curiosity, how many people in here  actaually remember going to a Stadium Fotbal match in Iran? Like Amjadieh, or anwhere else.

P.S. Swimming in Amjadieh's pool doesn't count.

So waht?

" it cristallises how and what the " masses" feel about the Chomaghdaran."

Admitting this would be true, what should we do with this? Do we have to follow the same trend and saying the lumpen slogan, to show our hamdardi?

Is that what you are suggesting?
I didn't say "why they said that", I am saying we (Roozbeh) should not follow the same trend. There's nothing  enjoyable from an act of ignorance! Even if this comes as the "cristalization of how the mass feels"....
An engaged activist will just act wisely upon hearing the voice of anger of the mass, and this doesn't mean that they have to  become a follower of them by continuing the same act of ignorance!

"We don't want another

"We don't want another re-evolution by a bunch of lumpen like Shaban bimokh, we want a true raise of a well informed nation."

Nice sentiment. Just one question, who is going to inform these "Lumpen" under the repression of I.R. Certainly that profanity is not a political slogan, but it crystallises how and what the " masses" feel about the Chomaghdaran.

Shirin/Roozbeh

Shirin jon: Agree with you %100

Roozbeh: I had flagged your first comment as abusive, but they didn't delete it. Just wanted to let you know that I didn't expect this from you. Something must change in our political attitude. And we must try to become this change which we think is necessary to grow  up, politically.

Basiji k$$ nanat, is not a political slogan. In fact it is nothing but an act of lumpenism. What do we get with saying and approving  this ? How does it help the Nation?

Think about that.

We don't want another re-evolution by a bunch of lumpen like Shaban bimokh, we want a true raise of a well informed nation.

اوا، حالا چرا به تو بر خورد؟

این خاک تو سر‌های بی‌ ادب  دارن میگن بسیجی، نه سایبر بسیجی!

چرا نمی‌شه نوشت ...وس؟ مگه فقط شنیدنیه؟

And then you want to run this society with absolute secularism, freedom this, freedom that ........

Somebody's mamma indeed!

Pathetic morons (Basijis /

Pathetic morons (Basijis / Hezbollah).... I wonder in which Tazie (arab) country they supported Iranian green movement during a Soccor match. Was it in Lebonan or Bahrais! As much as i know tazies use anti-Persian slogans during each match.

Iran Wins Again

Basij 0  Iran 10

Shah Hossein

Reason #9047

Why I love being an Iranian!

This is "bare" truth....!

I believe the "basijies" were "out muscled".

Bassiji's mom vaginas !!

No way!! Even if they pay me for the rest of my days. Na bishookhi agar mali bood azesh Basiji nemioomad biroon, ain't it?

فریاد نه غزه ، نه لبنان ، جانم فدای ایران ، در امروز ورزشگاه آزادی

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=22GJ4GUQ3Ag

IranMarzban :)

Let's stop saying that Basijis are rapist.  Their mama may not like that.

@comments you know that

@comments

you know that when people say death to basijis they don`t really mean it they are just saying it basijis actually do kill people so.... oh and please stop with all this fake morality lessons basijis rape people in jails hang em kill em in streets what do you want people to say huh ?! get a clue.

FREE IRAN

a good comment on balatarin

البته باید گفت که فحشی که تماشاگران دادند قابل تایید نیست ولی تا بسیجی و عرزشی جماعت باشن که بدونن همه مثل دانشجوها و مردم توی تظاهرات جنبش سبز نیستند که با این اوباش بسیجی با ادب و با فرهیختگی رفتار کنند.
این بسیجی‌ها خیال کرده‌اند استادیوم هم مثل کوی دانشگاه است که به صورت گله‌ای بریزند و هر غلطی خواستند بکنند 

Translation: Vagina of Basiji's mothers.

Why not?  Iranians wish death to all Basijis.  Now we have to be worried about the vagina of Basiji's mother.

I think Ahang1001 is only allowed to teach morality lessons to his/her own family not to US.  Unfortunately, some Iranians take moral responsibility for all Iranian females, but usually forget to take care of their owns.

آنهایی که با

آنهایی که با واژه های رکیک به بسیجی ها فحش میدهند...فرقی با باسیجی ها ندارند

این نظر من است و نظر دیگران برام مهم نیست...اصلا نمیخوام بدونم

شیرین

entirely depicts

the utter disgust of the entire population of Iran with Islam, and the Islamic Rapist Thugs ruling her.  The end will be very painful for these people.

"Bassiji: your mama's vagina"!

Admin: I am only quoting what the "iranian masses" are chanting, please dont block me!

a related one (Thanks to our friend, peykar):

//digarban.com/node/1035

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."

I love the end bit of the chanting most...

They say what we all think.