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One could theoretically, physically, and literally say "Thanks to NIAC, Iran got more sanctions."
Of course that would be a generalization. And nothing more than aligning specific keywords together on a website for Google to peruse and display in a Ranked Search Result.
However, one cannot help but wonder if NIAC and other self appointed pseudo lobbyist organizations living on the fumes of their crudely defined missions, were to focus their efforts on getting Iran to tone down it's nuclear and other regional ambitions, or rather to focus less on the US political process and more on Iran's, the road to less sanctions would be more easily traveled.
Assuming of course that seeing Iran tone it down from the cheap seats, would result in the US rewarding "Good Behavior" with less or no sanctions. And I am pretty sure that's the way it works around here.
So, according to the statistics, the more NIAC has tried to sway US politicians away from sanctions on Iran, the more sanctions US politicians have piled onto Iran.
The cry of "Hey NIAC! Stop helping us so much!" is making more and more sense.
Pound for pound NIAC's efforts have only backfired. Statistically. I don't even think the Idiot-Cowboy bar in Texas has removed the poster of an Iranian being hilariously lynched.
(Note: Seriously, can someone in Houston please go there and apologize for the hiker hostage taking already, then buy everyone in the bar a round, in return for taking down the poster? Because that's all it takes. You don't need an Engineering student to put up a petition.)
The lack of NIAC's real effectiveness (Real as in all that Iranian-Americans really want is for Iran to be free and less of a world media embarrassment) has been my only point of objection to NIAC from the very start. I love everything else about them. No really!
They're just pointed in the wrong direction, is all.
The naive assumption that Iranian politicians and the key players in the Iranian government are immune to the kind of lobbying that NIAC has perfected here, won't work because Iran is a dictatorship, is OK, justified, but still naive and worse, an entirely untried option! No one to date, in 30+ years, has EVER tried to organize a peaceful-intentioned, polite, logic-bound resistance movement, or a reform-minded opposition to this (or any) Iranian government.
NEVER!
RPII is only dreaming and wishing of one more White Christmas in Tehran, Saadabad to be exact. If he were anything more than that, he'd have been on a plane to Iran to work from the inside long ago. So as mesmerizing as he appears to some, he's not actually real. Trust me, I had a fantasy dinner with him once.
The MEK, well let's just say that if the MEK were serious about change, they would put down the weapons and stop making really bad deals with the devil over and over and over again and again and again. How stupid do we have to be to think the MEK supports democracy when their own organizational hierarchy is based entirely on marital status?
Also, I have come to the conclusion that you can NEVER trust any woman who insists on wearing a hejab when she doesn't legally have to. Even more so if she's not hot.
A lot of commentary on this site is devoted to identifying and answering the ongoing question, "What kind of a People are we, Iranians?"
A simple objective unemotional analysis of this is:
"Iranians are a freedom loving and freedom yearning people, who out of a real justified fear of ruthless and violent reprisal by their oppressors, have not (yet) learned that the legitimate power and will of the many, can outwit the illegitimate and ill-gotten power, and lesser will of the few."
The simpler explanation of how to overcome our fear of standing up together, is:
"Organization, Planning, Preparation, Determination, and an overwhelming optimism to drive the pragmatic, self-evident belief that you are right, and right can never succumb to wrong."
(Wow! It sure is arrogant to put yourself in quotes! My apologies post-quote.)
This combined with the numerous examples in history that other oppressed people living in exile, who ultimately decide and intend to take their country back from oppression. They have always done so by creating an organized resistance movement or opposition group, and have used the sanctuary of other free nations to launch pressure and drive the oppressors out and regain (or in our case Gain) their freedom. We have all of this AND the internet.
None of this means putting up a single Mollah against the firing squad wall.
None of this means violently overthrowing the existing government starting with a Green march on Qom.
None of this means harming a single hair on the fast thinning head of a single Quds force or IRGC commander.
All of this could (and should) be done through negotiation, patient prodding, and perseverant probing for cracks in the thin veneer of the IRI. Just as it stands today. For especially today there are so many cracks in the IRI to exploit. Solely on the singular issue of women's inalienable rights, never mind the rest of the heretically hilarious hadiths in this absurd version of an otherwise innocuous and altogether useful Qoran.
Supreme leader? Are you fucking serious? Is this "Star Wars Episode 13: The Phantom Old Fart"? There are only 2 things that ever deserve to be called Supreme. The mid-sixties Diana Ross, and Pizza.
Back to reforming Iran from this side of Evin Prison.
This is the kind of patient form filling, polite inquiry, and getting the rules of engagement straight that NIAC has shown over and over again, that it has the talent and desire for, and above all the proven ability to excel at.
So Trita jan, please, jooneh man, stop swimming in circles around the "beltway". You're done, you're ready, we're ready. Take her out on the highway, open her up full speed, and steer this ship over towards this way, point her bow away from DC and to a Middle East heading. The wind is at your back. I think you will enjoy the journey much more and find this is where your true destiny lies.
Everyone will thank you. More than that all of us will support you.
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Dear VPK, there is nothing wrong with giving an independent
by Oon Yaroo on Sat Nov 19, 2011 03:38 PM PSTassessment of an organization and arrive at your own conclusions!
You did the right thing. You listened to NIAC, heard what they had to say, and saw a consistent pattern of their IRR appeasement.
Any organization and its members who travel to IRR, hang around with its government representatives, and attend Ahmadinejad's New York parties can not be trusted! NIAC, CASMII, and the rest of these outfits can NOT be trusted!
Canadian Regime Alliance Party (CRAP)
by Shazde Asdola Mirza on Sat Nov 19, 2011 03:34 PM PSTWe Canadians can't afford another war either ... therefore we have started CRAP.
Furthermore, there is more money coming from the IRI to Canada, than through all the "dirty oil" we are trying to pipeline and sell to our stupid neighbor to the south.
Viva IRI ... long live CRAP
OY:
by G. Rahmanian on Sat Nov 19, 2011 03:31 PM PSTThat was meant as a rhetorical question! But thanks, anyway!
Don't you love it when people like Mola Felestin (now known as
by Onlyiran on Sat Nov 19, 2011 03:30 PM PSTIraj Khan) all of a sudden become advocates for America's welfare? Whatever can keep the IRI in power for a couple of more days, right buddy?Sure we believe you. :-)
Wearing a Hejab & (Not) Being Hot!
by G. Rahmanian on Sat Nov 19, 2011 03:27 PM PSTA great line, by the way!
Well if Trita Parsi wants to save America why doesn't he occupy
by Oon Yaroo on Sat Nov 19, 2011 03:21 PM PSTone of the streets of Washington, D.C.?
How about Wisconsin Ave. where the IRR Interest section is located!?
TP holds a green card! He is no US citizen!
NIAC
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Sat Nov 19, 2011 03:20 PM PSTI have to agree with people who say NIAC is not for regime change. In fact it actively supports keeping the regime in power. I said a year ago I will examine things and give NIAC a chance.
I now have determined that NIAC is on the wrong path regarding Iran. NIAC still may serve a good purpose on other issues. But I rather they keep out of the Iran policy. It is not being helpful and reducing their ability to get other things done.
Now, Is NIAC Trying To Save America, Too?
by G. Rahmanian on Sat Nov 19, 2011 03:14 PM PSTNow, Is NIAC Trying To Save America, Too? By the way, is Trita Parsi an American, yet?
"Lets not forget" .....! Americans are generous people!
by Oon Yaroo on Sat Nov 19, 2011 03:11 PM PSTAmericans are generous people! They have also tested and came stronger out of worse harsh conditions such as WWII and the great depression!
They can always afford a few extra bombs for the mullahs!
Christmas is right around the corner and America should give the mullahs a "big" present!
Lets not forget
by iraj khan on Sat Nov 19, 2011 02:58 PM PSTthat the letter 'A' in NIAC stands for American, The National Iranian American Council.
Why?
Because if you don't live in U.S. then you don't have to worry about issues concerning the American people. We have spent more than a trillion dollars on wars during the past 10 years.
We can't afford any more wars. Our schools are closing, many in American middle class are only a few steps from bankrupty, their homes are being taken away by banks, graduate students unemployed and deep in debt,...
Look, go to your Canadian government and ask them to attack Iran, put your money where your mouth is.
مومنت آقا مومنت
Shazde Asdola MirzaSat Nov 19, 2011 01:27 PM PST
حالا یه گروه خدا پرست و امام ترسی پیدا شده و میخواد جمهوری اسلامی رو از خطر تحریم و حمله محافظت کنه ... ما نمیبایست حمایتش کنیم؟
این حکومت اسلامی که ۳۲ ساله ترتیب ملت ایرون رو داده؛ حامی نمیخواد، ناجی نمیخواد، بلند گو لازم نداره؟
۹۵ در صد سران جمهوری اسلامی بهش پشت کردهاند و تو روی امامش تف هم نمیکنند ... ولی دم نیاک و کاسمی گرم که مثل کاسه داغ تر از آش، همچنان مواظبند که مبادا چشم زخمی به از ما بهترون برسه.
زنده باد نیاک ... بر فراز باد دستمال یزدی ... برقرار باد مال مفت و دل بیرحم و حزب توده!
"امام را دعا کنید ... مرگ بر آمریکا فراموش نشه"
The only crack of opportunity in the regime is in its butte ....
by Oon Yaroo on Sat Nov 19, 2011 01:15 PM PSTNot only that sanctions should be intensified on the criminal IRR, there should also be sea, air, and land blockades backed up with the threat of military strikes on the regime's assets!
All those who are looking for a crack in the regime to take advantage of are wishful thinkers. The only crack of opportunity in the regime is in its butt and that has to be torpedoed!
Faramarz jaan: Thanks for clarification....
by Bavafa on Sat Nov 19, 2011 01:14 PM PSTLooks like it we share the same view and in the same boat, at least in regards to Regime change. I don’t believe in tied hands either, but I wouldn’t go as far as saying anything goes (not implying that you are in favor of such approach)
However, on our interpretation of NIAC’s position, we remain with different views.
Thanks again.
'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory
Mehrdad
Perhaps NIAC Should Stick To Fixing Visas!
by G. Rahmanian on Sat Nov 19, 2011 01:11 PM PSTPerhaps NIAC Should Stick To Fixing Visas! And that too is NOT benefitting "ordinary Iranians." Anyone familiar with the economic/financial destitute of the majority of Iran's citizens knows well that "ordinary Iranians" are by no means able to send their children to schools in the US. Certainly, NIAC's cadres are aware of such facts and are only using their "accomplishments" as smokescreen for their real agenda which are aimed at protecting the interests of the regime in Tehran.
NIAC: "No to Indiscriminate Sanctions, No to War with Iran"
by iraj khan on Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:58 PM PSTNIAC position on sanctions and war with Iran has not changed over the years and I hope its oppostion to indiscriminate sanctions and war with Iran would continue into the future.
This is what a Rep Brad Sherman said about the suffering of Iranians under sanctions:
"One of the bill’s top supporters, Rep. Brad Sherman (D-CA), says, “Critics [of the sanctions] argued that these measures will hurt the Iranian people. Quite frankly, we need to do just that.”
NIAC does not support this position and tries to voice its opposition to warmongers, the ones who advocate or attempt to stir up war.
I understand Faramarz
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:48 PM PSTMany of us are very frustrated with IRI and its war on Iran. As normally I speak just for myself. I am not going to box myself in a position. Islamic Republic got to be removed. I prefer it to be by Iranian people in a peaceful way.
Really I prefer if VF stepped down himself and gave it up. But that is not happening.Now if things were getting better there would be hope. But it is getting worse! At what point will IRI be more damaging than the alternatives?
Nothing is black and white. In my opinion IRI is occupying Iran and is no better than another foreign power. If they start a wholesales killing of demonstrators would people still oppose any kind of outside interference.
Mehrdad Jaan
by Faramarz on Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:23 PM PSTI completely support a Regime change by the Iranian people.
But if the intent of your question is for me to box myself and say, "as long as the Regime change takes place on even days and between the hours of 9AM and 5PM" I will never say that. When it comes to this Regime all the options should be on the table and the Iranian people should be able to ask for help from anyone even from the devil himself!
As for the majority of NIAC folks all want a Regime change, their leadership sure are not saying it. It reminds of the Happy Days episode where Fonzie was supposed to say that he was wrong, but the words were not coming out!
He kept saying, "I was wrrrrrrr....!"
Hurting "Ordinary" Iranian?
by G. Rahmanian on Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:20 PM PST"Ordinary" Iranians don't need banks simply because they don't have money! Tens of millions of the so-called "ordinary Iranians" inside Iran have been hurting as a result of apartheid laws and regulations that have caused the concentration of wealth In the hands of a few. All major and midsize state projects are given to the high-ranking IRGC cadre and mullahs' offsprings whose fortunes are the envy of "ordinary Iranians!" Under such circumstances, NIAC's position is only to help wealthy Iranians!
Faramarz jaan: sorry for butting into the conversation...
by Bavafa on Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:36 AM PSTBut it will help some if you clarify your position a bit.
“I support a Regime change in Iran”
By whom, if I may ask?
And to be on the fair side and share my view;
I steadfastly support a Regime change in Iran, only if that is what the Iranian people want and they are in the front of the initiative. I am not for a Regime change that is designed and executed by the foreigners even if a few Western residing Iranian born (including myself) are involved in that design.
I do believe vast majority of NIAC supporters share the above view and position, hence the position of supporting sanctions in such way that will hurt IRI and not strengthen their hands at the throth of people.
Furthermore, I fully support a full boycott (different than embargo) of Iranian oil and oil sector as cutting the source of revenue will hurt the regime the most.
'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory
Mehrdad
ایرج چاخان
FaramarzSat Nov 19, 2011 11:03 AM PST
I support a Regime change in Iran.
How about NIAC and you.
NIAC
by iraj khan on Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:59 AM PSTFor sure does not like this 'alternetive' reported this week:
"the Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) and Senator Mark Kirk (R-IL) offered an amendment that would impose draconian sanctions against Iran's Central Bank, effectively making it illegal for any country or company to do any business with Iran. Senator Kirk has stated that his goal is to "collapse the Iranian economy," turning Iran into Saddam Hussein's Iraq."
And how about you?
Is that what you want?
And here is more, reported by press:
"Kirk says that his plan is to cause so much suffering among ordinary Iranians that they will be forced to rise up against the regime. And if that doesn't work, then we will go to war with Iran. This is the same destructive approach that was taken against Iraq. As we remember, half a million Iraqis died under a decade of suffocating sanctions that failed to displace their brutal dictator and ultimately ended in devastating war that killed hundreds of thousands more."
NIAC does not support the above position in regard to Iran.
How about you?
Hass
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Sat Nov 19, 2011 09:08 AM PSTIf you read my post I already said nuclear is a made up issue. My opinion is however that it should not be promoted. The nations using it are mistaken. I approve of the other sources Iran is developing.
My ideas are not based on what Israel wants. They are based on what is good for Iran. Nuclear is bad for Iran. I don't give a *** if Arabia or Japan is using it. They are wrong. We must not base our power on a dirty dangerous thing.
On the other hand I support the space program. And do not give a *** the Israeli do not like it. Iranian interests are just that. Giving up nuclear is both the right thing. And will remove an excuse for selling an attack on Iran.
Working hard for the IRI
by Shazde Asdola Mirza on Sat Nov 19, 2011 06:32 AM PSTWell NIAC is working hard, but getting results for IRI is not as easy as they first thought.
Petro Dollars can buy you some "goodwill", but IRI's actions can ruin it all.
Gentlemen pleeeeeease!
by anglophile on Sat Nov 19, 2011 05:55 AM PSTNulcear power
by hass on Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:08 PM PSTVieled profit - the reactor at Bushehr is not "junk" and in fact the Russians have built several such reactors all over the world. Such lightwater reactors are quite safe and should not be confused with the graphite-moderated reactors such as the one at Chernobyl.
Iran is developing a variety of non-oil energy resources - it has a solar energy program as well as a wind and geothermal energy program, and it has built one of the world's largest hydroelectric dams. Nuclear is one of may energy sources. The entire world is going nuclear - including Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Turkey. Iran is no exception. Any smart country would develop a range of alternative energy programs.
In any case as you say even if Iran gave up nuclear the US would still be opposed to iran. The issue is not nuclear power - the issue is Israel that wants to keep Iran down. You like the space program in Iran? Guess what - it uses missiles that Israel doesn't want Iran to have.
why u.s. policy is responsible for killing of iranians
by hamsade ghadimi on Fri Nov 18, 2011 01:12 PM PSTbahmani, niac is hard at work probing their own cracks within the beltway. these cracks include any corrupt or junior politician who wants to get in as many meetings as possible and pass out thier business cards before the information on them is changed (for the better, they hope). and with each one of these meetings, speeches, articles, blogs, a three-fold accolade is added to their resume (or fact books) for the world to see.
trita's note to self: had a meeting on m street in d.c., saved the world from another war. will go tomorrow to napa valley to save the world from w.w.iii.
some are moved out of fear and others out of self-interest (perhaps, parsi's motto). and let's not kid ourselves, the cracks on this side of the atlantic are much safer and more profitable. tell me bahmani, would it be easier and more profitable to criticize iri for the human rights abuse in iran or criticizing u.s. for the human rights abuse in iran? here's the answer: //www.iran-press-service.com/ips/articles-2008/march-2008/bush-administration-has-fueled-the-human-rights-ab.shtml
more of the same,
by iraj khan on Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:25 PM PSTNIAC this,
NIAC that,
Question: What have you done for the Iranian Americans community in order to make their lives a little bit easier?
Expected response: NOTHING,
No surprises here either.
Is that the Titanic?
by Faramarz on Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:25 AM PSTتریتا هم مثل سرکار استوار تو فیلم های صمد پولیتیک میزنه ولی درست از کار در نمیاد!
Hass
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:13 AM PSTWhy do you think Iranians benefit from nuclear power. It is dirty and dangerous with waste that is impossible to get rid of. Solar is the new thing and far better. Why should Iranians want a museum piece Russian junk.
Are we totally insane to go for it. I much rather throw out the junk and get investment in Solar. Having said that nuclear is an excuse for opposing IRI. If IRI gave it up tomorrow it makes no difference. But that is another matter.
I would never support nuclear power in Iran. There are far better solutions than this vile dirty ***. Yes to space program and research. No to nuclear garbage and ruining our world.
No one is in a better
by AMIR1973 on Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:10 AM PSTNo one is in a better position to denounce others than West-residing IRI Groupies, like hass-etrical. If you are a propa-GAND-ist of an Islamist terrorist regime that you cannot actually be bothered to live under (especialy, if you are a America-residing Groupie of a "Death to America" regime), then you are a in a great position to attack others. Oh, yeah!