Pictory

MLK = I have a dream. Shah = I dream about my son's coronation!

Everything is sacred

El Heinze 57

Elham,

You are not going to find anybody on this site who was around as a child, a teen or an adult back in 1974 whose answers are any different from Abarmard’s.

This was the rage of a son against his father, and it turned out that the daughter was the one who paid the price and got stuck with the Hejab and the rest of the problems.

What happened in Iran back in the late 70’s was inevitable and also the late Shah was going to die with or without Khomeini as he did in the summer of 1981, so no sense in arguing again. What is regrettable though are the following.

First, the constant arguments about Shah, Mossadegh and Reza Shah on this site. Every day on this site we excavate our old leaders out of their graves, do another autopsy and then bury them again. At some point we should leave them alone and let the historians deal with that, as they have already done.

Secondly, as the Captain of the Ship, the late Shah should have been the last one off the ship, not the first one. That more than anything else explains his state of mind and his illness. But unfortunately he made many mistakes towards the end and got a whole bunch decent, honorable and patriotic Iranians killed by this Regime. And that’s a shame.

Elham you are being ageist :)

50+ not 60+. But your message is spot on. If Iranians weighed things rationally then as they have painfully learnt, revolutions are the worst outcome.

Having said that, the change was inevitable and it had little to do with the Shah and you have to look deeper at why it was that he became (or had to become) a dictator.  Gondeh goozi - haie such as you see in the above video merely hastened his departure (helped by other factors, the quick reforms which brough corruption). He forgot where he came from. His father knew how dangerous the clergy were yet he thought he could romance the clergy.

The split between Nationalists and the Religious mob caused by the sheer incompetence of Mossadegh  combined with the infiltration of the Soviet backed Tudeh in the military gave him no option but to become the dictator. The split in the Modernist movement in Iran become irreconcilable and Iranians are suffering the consequences.

The Modernists were in too much of a hurry and thought by bringing the change quickly it will solve the problem, which is why so many backed the Pahlavis. But shortcuts don't work. The sort of maturity you are alluding to in your quesitons is lacking to this day. Until we resolve the splits mentioned above and work them out, we are doomed to repeat our history. 

Mr. Fozolie 

PS: Dear Red Wine, the reason they are not rising against the Akhoonds is because they have learnt that revolutions are the worst outcome, nothwithstanding West's intereference which is helping make transitional change impossible. 

Elham57, I agree with abarmard

All his answers are mine too.

“Special relation with my people”….

Is he talking about the Magas-haye doore sheerini   or some of the people in the cities and village that could have been put in prison with little notice if they expressed anything but that special relationship with their king.

At any rate, if this makes some people happy to live in the past, they should do just that.  Iranians have a bigger problem at hand and present time that needs every one's urgent attention. 

'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 

Mehrdad

Dear Abarmard

This is exactly what I wanted.

Thank you so much!

When a King spoke, when a Akhoond speaks

King's vision was a hard work to get to, unfortunately he didn't know people were lazy.

Akhoond's vision was free water, electricity , etc. he knew people are lazy.

Truly he talked like a leader and a king. Only if we shut our mouth ,sat in the back set and let him be the driver, since we were that lazy to drive.

Rohash shad, we don't deserve his visions.  

Dear Elham

My answer to you:

1)How was life treating you in general? What grade would you give it, from A+ to F ?

A+

2)Were you in jail?

NO

3)Were you in exile?

NO

4)Were you happy?

Yes, very

5)Were you miserable?

Absolutely not

6)How was YOUR life, in 1974, as an Iranian?

Great and hopeful.

After being arrested in 1974 by the Savak ...

After being arrested in 1974 by the Savak, the shah’s secret police, the Iranian writer Mahmoud Dowlatabadi asked his interrogators just what crime he had committed. “None,” he recalled them responding, “but everyone we arrest seems to have copies of your novels, so that makes you provocative to revolutionaries.” >>>>> 

Everything is sacred

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دَرین زمینه نامیدنِ نامِ مقّدسِ انقلاب بر آنچه که در بهمن ۵۷ شمسی‌ رُخ داد ،اَمری اشتباه است.آن گونه که بزرگان گویند انقلاب به معنای تغییر ذات و ماهیتِ یک حکومت است که این چنین برای ما ایرانیان اتفاق نیفتاد و آن جنبش اجتماعی توسطِ اِسلامیونِ بی‌ مِقدار و چپ کارانِ وَلد الزِنا به بازی گرفته شده و مملکت به خرابه مبدّل شد.

حال که بیش از سی‌ و چند سال از آن واقعه گذشته است،انگاری هنوز نارضایتی‌ عمیق از وضع جاری در میهنِ باستانی ما حُکمفرما نیست،وگرنه ایرانیان خود به خیابانها آمده و تکلیفِ این شیوخ را روشن می‌‌کردند،شاید هنوز ایرانیان امید دارند که آن شورش ۵۷ در آخر نتیجه بخش باشد،شاید به وجودِ رهبری کارآمد نیاز است و روحیه‌ای آنارشیستی تا قدرتی‌ به گِرد آمده و این نابکارانِ ضحاّک زاده را سرکوب کند.به هر صورت نیازمندِ یک ایدئولوژی جدید هستیم تا حرکتی‌ نو ایجاد گردد و بلکه به آزادی ایران زمین مُنجر شود.

دوره گاندی بازی و قهرمان پَروری‌‌های مَن درآوردی به اِتمام رسیده است و در نتیجه نیازمندِ اتحّادیم و همبستگی‌ عمیق،وگرنه اینها بدونِ خونریزی و جنگ تَن‌ به تَن‌؛ایرانِ ما را رها نخواهند کرد.خوردنِ لقمهٔ حرام کارِ خودش را کرده است و اسلامیون را با زور به دَرَک واصل کردن تنها چاره باشد.سرِ خود را کلاه نگذاریم،هیچ راهی‌ دِگر وجود ندارد،نه‌ تحریمها اثرگُذارَند و نه‌ کمکِ اَجنبی ! خود با خود بوده،دست در دست دیگر ایرانی داده و با نامِ یزدان به جنگِ این دیوانِ نا ایرانی رویم.ما بچه‌های کوه اَلبرز،از تبارِ آناهیتا و فَرابُرز هستیم،به فکر ایران باشیم.

Thanks

GD: I appreciate your honesty. The questions are directed to adults, in 1974, making them 60+ today. Not sure how many of them are IC visitors.

APFSM: Often you are asked to talk about the state of the nation, at certain era. Opinions vary on that. Here, I am asking about the state of YOU, or maybe your family, in 1974.

This is , obviously, in no way a scientific poll, or anything. I am just curious to know, of the pool of IC visitors, how many had it good, and how many had it bad,in 1974, regardless of what the nation was going through at the time.

I thank those who answer my questions, without giving a speech, in advance :-)

So help me God - US Presidential Oath

So help me God - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So help me God is a phrase often used to give an oath, and most commonly required as part of an oath of office. It is also used in some jurisdictions as a form of oath for other forms of public duty, such as an appearance in court, service as a juror, etc.

The essence of the phrase is a request to divine agency to render assistance (help) by being a guarantor of the oath taker's own honesty and integrity in the matter under question, and by implication invoking divine displeasure if the oath taker fails in their duty in this regard. It therefore implies greater care than usual in the act of the performance of one's duty, such as in testimony to the facts of the matter in a court of law

The use of the phrase implies a greater degree of seriousness and obligation than is usually assigned to common conversation. See the discussion on oaths for more details.

In the United States, the no religious test clause requires that "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States." However, there are federal oaths which do include the phrase "So help me God," such as for justices and judges in 28 U.S.C. § 453.[3]

The phrase "So help me God" is explicitly prescribed in oaths as early as the Judiciary Act of 1789, for U.S. officers other than the President. Although the phrase is mandatory in oaths, the said Act also allows for the option that the phrase to be omitted by the officer, in which case it would be called an affirmation instead of an oath: "Which words, so help me God, shall be omitted in all cases where an affirmation is admitted instead of an oath."

Presidential oath

Main article: Oath of office of the President of the United States

There is no law that requires Presidents to use a Bible or to add the words "So help me God" at the end of the oath. There is currently debate as to whether or not George Washington, the first president, added this phrase to his oath. However, all Presidents since Franklin D. Roosevelt have used this phrase, according to Marvin Pinkert, executive director of the National Archives Experience.

The Queen of England is a Velayeteh Fagih

just after her coronation Oath Listen to her Christmas speech  @ 1 mn:00:

Complete speech here:

She speaks about the importance of faith in society and the importance of keeping tradition alive even in the modern world.

She also adds how in modern times a monarch cannot lead Armies at the head of his or her troops but that the Monarch can strive to keep the nation's identity alive by reminding it's people of things past ... 

Monarchism?

Under our country's constitution his only mission should have been to be a 'Monarch.' Nothing less & nothing more! But as a schizophrenic he thought himeslf as a 'Divine Bush' of that time & rather than occupying Iraq & Afghanistan he occupied his own country! Such an idiot!

PS: When was the last time in the past 25 centuries we had a true monarchism in our coutry? Filthy or otherwise?

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchism

Elham57 disingenuous propaganda doesn't work that way

If each iranian was to reflect on their lives in 1974, the consensus of the Iranian Nation would give their lives 3 cheers for joy and getting better by the day, since 1979 ofcourse we know that if you discuss the truth the same disingenuous nay sayers of yester year will say its nostaligia.  The Shah was the most democratic leader, despite the society and the system being far behind him, many people could not realize what he was doing or accomplishing for the majority of Iranians.

Answer to your questions, Elham

Unfortunately what the akhound has done to our country has caused many of our countrymen to look at that era with envy. There was a middle-class which had a relatively comfortable life. But we also had a lower and under class who lived on the outskirt of towns, in shanty towns called halab-abad. For a while there was a boom in the oil market that made many people rich. But it was followed by the bust which created a slow-down in economy. 

The middle class could have a comfortable life if they didn't get involved in politics and as they used to say if "his/her head did not smell of ghormeh-sabzi." So everyone was very careful not to cross the unspoken red lines. 

As for myself, I was just a youngster at the time so I was facing all the age related issues. Your questions relate to those who were in the job-market and perhaps had a family.

Questions

 I am not drawing any particular conclusion from this, but, at the time of this interview, those of you who  were alive :

1)How was life treating you in general? What grade would you give it, from A+ to F ?

2)Were you in jail?

3)Were you in exile?

4)Were you happy?

5)Were you miserable?

6)How was YOUR life, in 1974, as an Iranian?

Note: If you decide to answer these questions, please, tell me about it from YOUR OWN perspective, and your own personal perspective alone. Not others'.

First Amendment bazam javab nadady about "Filthy"

Meegam khodeto beekhod Khasteh Meekony aghebat ... 

Movazebeh Feshareh Khoonet Bash ... 

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If I were a monarchist I'd have sued this filthy family for the destruction of the 25-century-old tradition of monarchism in my country.......

One thing I noticed

Iranians seemed to be better drivers back then! They adhered to some rules of the road. Now it's just total chaos.

I was waiting for him to define democracy but unfortunately the interviewer did not ask him that question (or that part of this clip was removed). We could have a better picture of his methodology for "training his people" on the road to democracy.