Esfand Aashena

Esfand jaan

There some differences in our scenarios. In yours, Shah lives to old ages but in mine he dies decades earlier. But main point as you noted,  is that "lot of the things would be the same "

If Shah had stayed Savad-kooh would've become Dr. Kooh!

Anahid jaan I agree a lot of the things would be the same and that's what I've been trying to say.

Everything is sacred

If Shah had stayed, somethings would be similar to now

1. Russia and Iran would be good friends. Even in Shah's time, and although USSR was communist, Russians were in Iran, so after fall of communism, Shah would be happy to have excellent relationships with Russia.

2. Women would constitute high percentage of student population in universities even in science and engineering fields.

3. There could well have been an Iran Iraq war, but it would have ended sooner. US would have hepled Iran and Saddam would stay on until US got rid of him. Lok at timeline of what happened to Saddam after Iraq attacked Kuwait, speed it up by about 10 years. Remmeber that in 1970s, Iran and Iraq had border problems and there were even some battles, although small and Saddam had his own ideas independent of type of regime in Iran.

4. If Shah had stayed, it would have been after he crused people' revolution in 1357. People would be jailed and killed similar to what we had in early 1980s in Iran, just it would have happened few years earlier. A new Shah, Reza Pahlavi, who had come to power after death of Shah from cancer, would gradually free priosners and many would return to normal life.

5. In mid to late 2000s , maybe about 2006, or couple years later, we would have a popular uprising. We had a revolution in 1357, which was about 25 years after 1332 and even with all Dictatorship of IRI, we had 2009 uprising about 30 years after last revolution. So if monarchy had stayed, we would have had another uprising in late part of decade of 2000. Activists would have asked for human rights and freedom for political prisoners...

Just some thoughts

If shah had stayed

We would not have to see His chubiness's face on TV everyweek!!!

He would have been Busy in Ghavekhoone Saad ABaad making coffee for the distinguished guests and Dignitaries ....

If shah had stayed... Shah bashing would have never started to beging with :)))

But i am glad he did not !:)

So Keep on Keeping on bashing:0 

If Shah had stayed Iranians would travel2 US 2 bring wives home!

Everything is sacred

If shah had stayed I would now be buying myself a balal

And after I was done, I would then walk into Victoria's Secret and buy my honey bunny something.

If Shah has stayed We'd have won the Karaoke World Championships

And Every Irainian could enjoy singing and dancing in every place in Iran.

Ahhhhh Defender of Freedom so sorry to see you go... : (

We should make a movie about this, "If Shah had stayed". Of course we'd have to admit at the beginning of the Movie that the bitching and whining would not have disappeared, but then again he was a man not A God, he couldn't change the way Iranians are, he could just give them Freedom & the possibility to change.

If Shah had stayed he'd have converted to Christianity!

Everything is sacred

If Shah had stayed we'd have water parks with big slides!

And everyone would be free to bring their water guns and play.

: )

Shah was given a PhD by UCLA in early 60's, Iranian Students

flew a plain over the ceremony with a banner behind it that read : "Need a hit, see Shah". Those were the days.

But according to Amirparivz the banner said: "Need Prozac, see Shah, or his supporters"

If Shah had stayed we'd have a Tehrani Disney

And all the uneducated mullahs and their followers who have no interest in education, skills or personal development would have had guaranteed jobs running all the rides and selling the tickets, wearing disney costumes not chadors at work. 

: )

If Shah had stayed Reza Shah wouldve been given a posthumus PhD!

Everything is sacred

Maybe this monarchist would have played for us

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FNoIDgNE6o&NR=1

Imagine the news, Live in Tehran, Queen is playing to celebrate RP II Birthday. (If only they stayed).

Good Thoughts, Good Words, Good Actions.

If Shah Had Stayed Women Would Have Screamed

//www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedd...

haydehs voice is always nice to hear

gashang bood.

If Shah had stayed he'd have read Monarchy For Dummies!

Everything is sacred

غصه نخور عزیزم، که زندگی قشنگه

Amirparviz: If shah was still around, we would probably have this monarchist singing this beautiful song :

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tusHE_ujmU&feature...

P.S. HG, me thought one of our old boys might recall the distinction. Tis new generation don't remember anything.

P.S.S. I still don't belive I'm the only one that remebers (well, vaguely remembers) that Gay weddign in Tehran, it must have been sometimes between 1975-76.

I think the arbabsiar story was fabricated

If shah stayed we'd have this monarchist playing in Iran at the Shahyad.  Enjoy.

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f7WyUnf_A8

If Shah had stayed Arbabsiar would plot2 kill Saudi Amb in Iran!

Everything is sacred

Heard the news today?

This would definetly not be happening if shah had stayed.

//www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/02/uk-mil...

UK/USA planning on military attack on regimes nuclear facilities, yet keeping other mullahs in power.

Ahh, to ponder the IF's of life

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IRAN FIRST

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Monarchism is very much alive and Kicking in Iran

Iranian monarchist should stop lamenting the "good old days", and praise the "good present days" in Iran. Just ignore the "Republic" bit in the title of the current regime with all that islamic stuff and you have the good old days of Shah and his SAVAK and Evin, this time round with Rahbar and his SAVAMA and same old Evin. As for Cyrus the Aryan and his famous cylinder, just give ahmadinezhad and his Mr. Bean lookalike sidekick a bit of time, and you'll have all that too. And dont forget your "virtual US embassy" either. You see, everything is back to "normal" again.

Enjoy.... 

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."

If Shah had stayed women would be wearing see-thru chadors!

Everything is sacred

mashti, canada dry is

mashti, canada dry is preferred because of its neat spiral design.  however, if the bottle is broken according to his majesty's admission to barbara walters, there's no difference.

SAVAK was already serving, cooked egg, Pepsi and Canada Dry

in there! Somehow they would force Evin residence to 'enjoy' these items from a different orifice!

BTW, does anyone recall the major difference between the Pepsi and Canda Dry , as far as Evin?!

Savak was not involved in catering

You know that people did get chelo kabob in Evin back then.  Also balal.

If Shah had stayed SAVAK would serve chelo kabob in Evin!

Everything is sacred

Didn't we have the very first Public Gay Marriage in Iran, back

then before 1979? Some said it was the first of its kind in ME.

If memory serves well, which these days it don't, it was in one of those luxury hotels in Tehran, and  one of the two, was the son of a famous general in the army.

I never realized just how much some of these monarchists miss their GOD.

May Ary Az Mehr be always with you!

We already know that we have gays in Iran today.

Some of them are running the prison system for the IRI, just ask the green movement.  They say they had plenty of first hand experience with out consent.  If shah had stayed this could never have happened. Gays could live on the basis of consent and would be free from discrimination like the rest of us.

If Shah had stayed we'd have gays in Iran!

Everything is sacred