I was having lunch with my ex-girlfriend in Washington DC the other day and telling her what a nightmare of a husband I was during my marriage. She couldn't believe my stories.
"You should never get married again," she said.
"No kidding," I said. "I came to that conclusion a long time ago. I'm just not made for it."
Honestly, I don't think I'm ever going to get married again. I shouldn't. In addition to not having any of the qualifications to be a husband, there's hardly anything about marriage that appeals to me.
Is it to build a family? I don't want to have any more kids and even if I did, I can't. I've had a vasectomy.
Is it for love and companionship until death do us part? I don't think anything lasts forever, maybe with the exception of love itself, and only the thought of it. To be attached to another person for the rest of my life terrifies me. I need to feel free and any obligation or responsibility towards another person will drive me nuts. Sooner rather than later I will run away.
Which reminded me of one of my favorite topics of conversation. I shared it with my ex as I have with everyone else I meet.
A couple of years ago someone told me, or I read somewhere, that in some state in Germany, they have a marriage law, or they have proposed one, that's quite revolutionary: Marriages automatically expire after two years unless both the husband and wife wish to renew it.
Think about it. You fall in love, get married and live together for two years. If everything goes beautifully, you renew your marriage vows. If not, you go your separate ways.
I still wouldn't get married even if it was just for two years. But I think this let's-try-for-two-years-and-see-if-it-works is a great idea for those who wish to tie the knot. It takes away the "forever" aspect of traditional marriage and ends it without the need for divorce, which can be legally difficult and emotionally devastating. At the same time, those who are still in love after two years and want to continue living together, can do so.
Everyone who's heard this has loved it. What do you think?
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The 2 year marriage contract
by Mariam Amiri on Wed May 13, 2009 08:56 AM PDTThe 2 year marriage contract sounds similar to Temporary sigheh marriage contract.
A possibility for someone to get hurt
by hazratee on Wed May 13, 2009 08:45 AM PDTWhat if one of them truly loves the other one and doesn't want to end the marriage? How about their child or children? I think the whole idea is some how selfish and copout. Life is not meant to be easy.
Seven years?
by Jahanshah Javid on Wed May 13, 2009 08:34 AM PDTMarjan Etemadi, thanks for finding the news story. If the proposal is to have marriages expire after seven years, it's too long in my opinion. But still better than traditional marriage/divorce in its present form.
Living together
by Jahanshah Javid on Wed May 13, 2009 08:28 AM PDThamsade ghadimi, you have good points. You say why not live together for 1 or 2 years and then get married? That's a very good way of seeing if you are compatible or not. Very true.
But unmarried couples do not have legal obligations. Married couples do. Living together is not an obligation for life. Marriage, in its present form, is. Even if you have lived together for a couple of years and then get married, there's no guarantee that it will last.
Psychologically it's very different to be married: you are making a commitment (emotional and legal) to stay together forever. But those who live together, unmarried, only make a commitment for as long as they are happy.
The renewal of marriage vows after two years ensures that both sides are absolutely on the same page. Who wants to live with someone forever if he or she is no longer willing and happy?
Qualifications
by yass (not verified) on Wed May 13, 2009 08:27 AM PDTWould you please tell us what the qualifications are for a good husband?
I would like to know what you did in your marriage that was terrible. Tell us what you said to your ex-girlfrind. It seems intersting to admit your mistake or weakness in the relationship. Men hardly do that.
I don't know about Germany
by IRANdokht on Wed May 13, 2009 08:25 AM PDTor any other country's laws but at least in CA if you were married less than 5 years and have no children or major shared assets, you can get a divorce without much of a fuss.
I think the only people who would argue against an easy divorce would be the divorce attorneys and religious fundamentalists.
IRANdokht
It was 7 years, JJ. Do you still agree?
by Marjan Etemadi (not verified) on Wed May 13, 2009 08:18 AM PDTHere's the original news on AFP
//afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5juVbhPK68Fyi9J...
German politician proposes seven-year limit on marriages
Sep 19, 2007
MUNICH, Germany (AFP) — A conservative German politician on Wednesday proposed making marriage contracts expire after seven years, with the option to renew for those not feeling the proverbial itch.
"I propose that marriages lapse after seven years," Gabriele Pauli told reporters in Munich, the capital of the largely Catholic southern state of Bavaria.
"This would mean that one will only commit for a fixed period and will actively have to renew your vows if you still want to continue."
Pauli, 50, has been divorced twice.
The proposal is part of her manifesto as she prepares to contest the leadership of Bavaria's governing party, the ultra-conservative Christian Social Union (CSU), next week.
The CSU is the sister party of Chancellor Angela Merkel's Christian Democrats and the leadership is being vacated by a strategic ally of the chancellor, Edmund Stoiber, who has also been premier of Bavaria for more than a decade.
Stoiber in January agreed to step down at the end of September after a party rebellion led by Pauli.
Shortly afterward he announced his decision, Pauli caused a stir by posing for magazine pictures as a dominatrix wearing long latex gloves.
She is facing stiff competition for the CSU leadership from Agriculture Minister Horst Seehofer and regional Economy and Transportation Minister Erwin Huber.
It's already being practiced in US!
by Maryam Hojjat on Wed May 13, 2009 08:12 AM PDTPeople in US mostly live together for 1-2 may more and then decide to marry. It is already much better in US. Why should we marry for two years and then decide?
you say pot-ah-to, i say pot-ay-to
by hamsade ghadimi on Wed May 13, 2009 08:09 AM PDTthe idea of marriage has evolved through the ages (e.g. monogamy, polygamy, civil union, same-sex). the german idea is just another form. sure, why not? however, i think the net result of traditional divorce and not renewing your marriage is the same. you go through the same emotional dilemma. it is not unusual for people in the west to live together for many years before they tie the knot which in my opinion reduces the probability of entering into, for a lack of better phrase, a bad marriage. neither marriage nor divorce is a bad thing. those who divorce have re-evaluated their circumstances whether after 1 month, 2 years, or 10 years. and, why not just live together in a committed relationship without a formal declaration?
not a bad idea at all..
by Monda on Wed May 13, 2009 07:55 AM PDT...in fact I need to Google that area in Germany in case my kid ever expresses confusion about the concept. But wait, I wonder where they got the 2 yr from, Gottman research says 3 for trials.
Two-year test
by Jahanshah Javid on Wed May 13, 2009 07:48 AM PDTIranyvaliazad, you're right, marriage is not as trivial as a magazine subscription. But you also noted that it involves human beings. As humans we change. And our feelings change.
If the husband and wife are truly in love they have nothing to fear. But if their love fades, they should accept reality: instead of being imprisoned in a loveless and hollow "institution" they should separate.
As for finances, they can be settled much easier after two years rather than 10 or 20 years.
And children: it's unwise to have children too quickly anyway. Most people wait two or more years before having children.
Those who have passed the two-year test and have proven to be compatible are more likely to be happy.
Marriage is not magazine subscription
by Iranyvaliazad on Wed May 13, 2009 07:35 AM PDTThe two year proposal is very cold and inhumane approach to a institution that involves human beings and their emotions. Beside finances that one reader eluded to, the proposal doesn't take into account of offsprings and their emotional attachments to their parents.
Thumbs Up!
by sbglobe on Wed May 13, 2009 07:30 AM PDTI wonder if the Germans took the idea from seghe :-)
fantastic and practical law
by Jaleho on Wed May 13, 2009 07:30 AM PDTa very good first step to the future abolition of courts and church and mosque and societal rules....for human bonding. Future more advanced human shouldn't need any of this garbage.
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by Flying Solo on Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:55 AM PDT.
Dear JJ
by malek_shoara on Wed May 13, 2009 07:14 AM PDTPlease in your opinion What is the qualification of a husband?
And even after 2 years still the Ancillary relief could take years if you could not settle down the financial with your wife.
I have heared that even if you live with some one for a couple of years both sides can claim Ancilary relief,
So what do you think now?
I have a feeling...
by Ali P. on Wed May 13, 2009 07:02 AM PDT...far more men, are in support of this (refreshing) idea, than women are.