There has always been confusion in the Population of the Baha'i Faith followers in every country, since its ORIGIN. Regarding their numbers, "Millions" is the usual figure claimed by them.
Very recently Baha’is are also interested in giving Fake ‘percentage Baha’i population’ for every country. Thanks to the internet – their lie is getting exposed. The number of countries and localities varies with each web site. There is ‘no consensus’ regarding the actual number of countries, the actual number of localities, and the actual number of Baha’i. This trouble in the Baha’i population is not generated by the Baha’i Administration themselves but it is just the continuation of what Abdul Baha and Shoghi Effendi have done.
As a result Baha’is and Baha’i Administration have gone on defensive. They are quick to blame the Christians for this exaggeration and inconsistency. Where did the Christians get their data? It is only from the National spiritual Assembly of the various countries especially the NSA of USA. It is only the Baha'is and their officials who are to blame for the false-misleading reports on the wildly exaggerated Baha'i census. It is not the fault of the editors of Christian World Encyclopedia and Encyclopedia Britannica who relied on information given to them by the Baha’is.
One may ask, why didn't the NSAs , UHJ-ITC-ABM-CBC ever contact the Christian World Encyclopedia Editors, and request a correction? This is because the Baha’is wants to jack-up their numbers- for "public image".
Baha’i Population in Iran as claimed in the time of Abdul Baha
In case of the Baha’i population in Iran the Baha’is speak lies which puts to shame any lover of justice. Sometimes they say one third of the Iranian population is Baha’i and sometimes they propagate that half of the Iranian population is Baha’i. To my utter surprise during my visit to India in 2002, a Baha’i convert informed me that the whole of Iran has accepted the Baha’i Faith. I politely told him that the Baha’is have made a fool out of him .There are not more than 20,000 Baha’is.
Even the Zoroastrians, Jews and Christians of Iran are not being sparred from this onslaught of lie for which the Baha’is claim that all of them have accepted the Baha’i Faith.
Here are the Excerpts from the writing of Edward Brown,
Population in Iran as claimed at the time of UHJ
From 3,00,000 to 4,61,351 followers. The percentage varies from 0.69 to 2%. This is unimaginable lie. The Encyclopedia Britannica and Encyclopedia of Christians have conveyed that the Baha’is have told them. The reporters are none other than Douglas Martin (former member of House of Justice) and Simeon Kohlman Rabbani (a Baha’i), who gave the information to World Christian Encyclopedia is a Baha’i.
There is one silver lining in the Baha’i census of Iran. It exposes the falsehood. Abdul Baha, leader of the faith (of lies), claimed fifty five millions at his time. UHJ is now claiming only 3,00,000 !!!
Presented below are certain eye-openers !!!
No. Year Population % Reference
1 1984 300,000 Ref: Hatcher, William S. & J. Douglas Martin. The Baha'i Faith: The Emerging Global Religion. San Francisco, CA: Harper & Row (1984); pg. 181.
2 1990 410,000 “Data transcribed by Simeon Kohlman Rabbani”
Ref: Barrett, David B. World Christian Encyclopedia (2001)
3 2001 463,151 (0.69%) Data transcribed by Simeon Kohlman Rabbani.
Ref: Barrett, David B. World Christian Encyclopedia (2001)
Present Baha’i Population of Iran
The actual number of Baha’is in Iran is not more than 30,000. That should not make anyone who is a Baha'i very depressed. The Baha’is should know that exaggerating Baha’i census was the policy of Abdul Baha, Shoghi Effendi and now House of Justice.
What the Universal House of Justice should know, is that by making false claim of number of Baha’is or by parroting Anna’s presentation, no one will ever change his/her Faith. They can organize reflection meetings, deceptive children classes, launch fake Intensive program of Growth have useless cluster growth meetings - the Baha’i population will not grow. The Baha’i population will not grow by sending young Iranian Baha’i girls outside Iran for propagation of Baha’i Faith.
Baha’ism is now a failed attempt, a misfired plot to portray a man made religion to be counted amongst major religions of the world. Baha’ism is dying in its infacy. It will never see the light of the day.
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Is this true
by nadeem khan on Sat Jun 26, 2010 06:26 AM PDTWere there really fifty-five million souls in Iran at any given time in history as this guy claims "Sayid Mohammed, secretary of Abbas Effendi, said that the number was fifty-five million souls" . Is this statement true?
this is really cheap
by nadeem khan on Sat Jun 26, 2010 06:22 AM PDT"You bring shame to the prophet you follow by your shameless slandering of others."
When baha'is do wrong, slander, involve in crimes, does not follow the teachings of their prophet then even they BRING SHAME TO THEIR PROPHET. Cursing someone, even critics in such a cheap manner is really not expected from bahais.
faryarm
by Rea on Sat Jun 26, 2010 05:18 AM PDTI often mention the Bahais' plight in my home country forums, so I'd like to get my facts straight. If it's not 300,000, then what's the figure, at least, approx ?
As for the blog, I'm not commenting, don't like feeding haters.
RB I dont know what devil you worship but
by Waters on Fri Jun 25, 2010 08:03 PM PDTLets say that the like of you even out number the rats, what good is that for!
You bring shame to the prophet you follow by your shameless slandering of others.
The Anti Bahai Negativity of Bitter Frustration...
by faryarm on Fri Jun 25, 2010 08:07 PM PDTSome one should ask Mr Ravani, If the Bahai Faith is such a failure, should it have not failed and disappeared just like the man made attempts of schism by Azal all the way down to the pathetic Egos who still try so desperately to create doubt , divide and show the Bahai Faith in bad light.
If The Bahai Faith is so "man made" why is it that two nineteenth century empires headed by the Sultan s of Turkey, The Qajar Shahs, not to mention the murderous campaigns of massacre of Babis and Bahai by their Mullahs has not been to this day been able to stop its influence and growth, not to mention the selfless love, devotion, respect and steadfastness that Bahai have always exemplified, one that has finally won them the respect and admiration of Iranians, be they friend and foe.
Mr Ravani's blind bitterness is exemplified by his refusal to accept the miracle of a new and persecuted religion from Iran, which has against all odds, not only survived the death of its founders, but its progressive revolutionary ideas and principles have captured the hearts and won the admiration of people from all races and religions.
The question that should be asked from these videos, is how can a persecuted new religion from Iran, survive the exile and death of its founders and find a place in the hearts so many in others in other parts of the globe?
A new fire and inspiration that has shown to bring the Atheist, Hindu, The American Native,The Buddhist, The Jew, The Christian , The Muslim and so many others to realize that no matter the name or the founder, there is indeed ONE Common Faith, that has been progressively revealed by God and the main reason why Religions "seem" to disagree is , the corruption and abuse of its power by power hungry men who like our present IR rulers in Iran are using it for personal gain and greed.
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucUayw0cwjY&feature=related
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rsq9T81hWio
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=oln2w7b65t0
In reference to the blog's refernces to numbers etc; It is a fact that the offices National Bahai Centre was burgled right before the revolution when all its records and documents were stolen; these records of names of the entire Bahai community were used to identify Bahais, Their homes, land and businesses, which subsequently led to Bahais losing their jobs, retirement, property, not to mention arrests and executions throughout Iran.
For the record, the figure of Iranian Bahai Population(300,000 to 350,000) was based on National Cencus before and after the Revolution; by the Islamic Republic of Iran.
Dear friend
by Sahameddin Ghiassi on Fri Jun 25, 2010 01:22 PM PDTHumanity is important. Love and Unity read Molavi, Khayaam, and Hafez. The real religion is Love and Unity. Name is not important. All these fights are because we are not pure. If we made ourselves pure we can see that all religions and humanity is the same. We need education, peace, love and unity. Respect and Just. To fight with other religions is what the business people want to sell their weapons. The name is not important, Bahai, Moslem or... Christian; if they are not nice and human, there is no difference between them.
Jus to fight for a name does not guide us to go forward. We need to respect each other and love each other regardless to religions, nationalities and races. Bad people are bad in any religions. And good people are also good in any religions. Listen to Sadi word. That the humanity is the only way and it is just one point or goal. We should not bother each other with the religions and names. I heard that only 30 thousand Bahai or Babi are killed in Iran. And recently 200 of them are hanged in Iran. How can the people kill each other because of a name? The Bahai also could be as bad as the Moslems. The number is not important.
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