Doubting the Evidence against Iran
Time / MARK KUKIS AND ABIGAIL HAUSLOHNER
06-May-2008 (31 comments)

Indeed, the U.S. allegations appear to be based on speculation, spurred by the appearance about a year ago of a new breed of roadside bomb in Iraq.... But no concrete evidence has emerged in public that Iran was behind the weapons. U.S. officials have revealed no captured shipments of such devices and offered no other proof.

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Q

finally some truth!

by Q on

This is how propaganda works. You keep telling the lie that it becomes de-facto true, just because so many people heard it (no doubt helped by the millions spent on publicizing the lie in the media). Over a year later, it turns out there is actually NO EVIDENCE! All that time, all those accusations were based on this: "the copper slugs used in EFPs had to be precisely tooled with a heavy press in order to work properly, they said; no such heavy presses were in operation in Iraq, according to the Americans, therefore the slugs had to have been machined in Iran and moved into Iraq." They almost bombed Tehran based on this! And if Joe Lieberman, Dick Cheney and friends had their way, it would have happened by now.


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Q

Jamshid take a critical thinking class, it would really help you

by Q on

your confusion is quite natural for someone who does not understand what logic or evidence is.

There is no such thing as "evidence" for a negative proposition. Where is your evidence that you are NOT a clown? What evidence do you have that you are NOT dreaming? Should I conclude that you are a dreaming clown? It's as absurd as George Bush demanding that Saddam "prove" he has no WMD. This stuff is covered in most High Schools, or at least freshman college classes.

I did not claim to have such evidence. I only showed proof that there is no evidence for the positive proposition, which no one has seen. There have been news reports saying there is "evidence" but not showing it. This article by an "asghar" who happens to work for Time Magazine pointed out that those claims were "speculation", in other words there was no evidence to prove it. This is not saying that Iran is not sending weapons, it only goes to prove that those who have said so, so far, were lying. A "case", in otherwords has not been established, contrary to the American claims. Do you understand the distinction?

Let me repeat what I wrote on this page to Zion, in a desperate hope for you to grasp this elementary concept. He seems to have gotten the message, but you still don't get it. Here it is again.

Dear Zion: What you fail to understand is the nature of evidence. it's not an equal proposition between true/untrue. If you have evidence, you can claim something as true. If you don't, it's not true. It's not that Time magazine is "one report" is "casting some doubt", it's not "some doubt", they are being too generous to not piss off their corporate masters. It's that one news source has pointed out that the emperor has no clothes. There is no evidence. None of those other claims had any real evidence. This is not proof of innocense. It just says the case was based on lies. That fits very well with reality of the Bush administration.

The other point that you are purposefully missing in your effort to do damage control is the element of incentive. There is an established link between the major corporate media and the incentives they have to please the Bush administration and the war profiteers. They all admitted they were blindsighted during the Iraq war. This is an uncontroversial fact.

But what is the incentive for Time magazine or anybody else to please the IRI? What possible motive is there to help America's enemy #1???
Only a nut-bag conspiracy theorist (like all Mojhedeen) claim Iran has SO MUCH power that they control the media in the United States. I know you're a little out there, but I'm sure you're not that far gone.

Lastly, I welcome both of your efforts in making this news item one of the "most discussed" pieces on Iranian.com.


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Hezbollah is providing training in Iran for Iraqi militants

by . (not verified) on

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Iranian-backed Lebanese militant group Hezbollah is providing training in Iran for Iraqi militants, according to interrogation reports cited by U.S. officials, the New York Times reported on Monday.

The officials said the information came from four members of Shi'ite militias who were captured last year in Iraq and questioned separately, according to the newspaper.

The information was given to Iraq's government before an Iraqi delegation went to Tehran last week to present evidence of Iran's backing of Shi'ite militias in Iraq, the Times said.

It added that it was unclear if the Iraqis had in fact put the evidence forward to Iran.

An Iraqi government spokesman said on Sunday after the delegation's return that Iranian officials had denied any interference in Iraq.

Washington accuses Iran of funding, arming and training Shi'ite militias to attack U.S.-led troops and Iraqi government forces, despite its public commitment to stabilizing Iraq. Tehran blames the violence on the presence of U.S. forces.

The Times quoted the officials as saying it appeared that Iran, possibly to be less obtrusive, was bringing small groups of Shi'ite militants into the country.

There were then taught how to train others back in Iraq in techniques for firing rockets, fighting as snipers and building explosively formed penetrators -- a lethal kind of roadside bomb made of Iranian components.

The officials said the training was being conducted at several camps near Tehran overseen by the Quds force of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Command, with instruction from Hezbollah militants.

The Iraqi government said on Monday that Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki had ordered the formation of a committee to compile evidence of Iranian interference in Iraq that would then be presented to Tehran.

The Iraqis have said they do not want their territory to become the site of a proxy war between the United States and Iran, which are at odds over Tehran's nuclear ambitions.

(Writing by Peter Cooney; Editing by Kevin Liffey)


jamshid

Q you rant too much

by jamshid on

Where is YOUR evidence? Are you going to pull another "Nasrin" from an obscure internet site? You do remember your goof with "Nasrin" long ago, don't you?

You conveniently pull articles written by any "Asghar" out there and use it as "evidence", but when others show you counter evidence, written by other "Asghars" of the world, you claim they are false because it comes from the necons or the oppostion, etc.

So the pro-IRI camp has "evidence" that there are no arm shipments to Iraq by the IRI. And then the anti-IRI camp has "evidence" claiming the oppostie.

At the end of the day, one must use ALL the evidences plus his common sense which you so badly lack.

Your hyprocrisy has no bound. But I enjoy exposing you and having you for lunch, every time. And that pisses you off to no end.


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dont' believe the lies!

by daneshvar (not verified) on

The New York Times was a great supporter of the Iraq war and it is also supporting the war on Iran. Read this from http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/artic...


Leila Fadel, the bureau chief, and Shashank Bengali report: “The Iraqi Government seemed to distance itself from U.S. accusations towards Iran Sunday saying it would not be forced into conflict with its Shiite neighbor. And Prime Minister Nouri al Maliki ordered the formation of a committee to look into foreign intervention in Iraq.

“As the government appeared to back down from its hardening stance against Iran, four marines were killed in Anbar in the deadliest attack in the Sunni province in months.

"The government spokesman, Ali al Dabbagh, told reporters Sunday that a committee was formed to find ‘tangible information’ about foreign intervention, specifically Iran's role in Iraq rather than ‘information based on speculation.’

"’We don't want to be pushed into any conflict with any neighboring countries, especially Iran. What happened before is enough. We paid a lot,’ Dabbagh said, referring to the eight years war between the two nations in which an estimated 1 million people died.”

Also today from Agence France-Press: “Iraq said on Sunday it has no evidence that Iran was supplying militias engaged in fierce street fighting with security forces in Baghdad.

“Government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh said there was no 'hard evidence' of involvement by the neighbouring Shiite government of Iran in backing Shiite militiamen in the embattled country. Asked about reports that weapons captured from Shiite fighters bore 2008 markings suggesting Iranian involvement, Dabbagh said: ‘We don't have that kind of evidence... If there is hard evidence we will defend the country.’"


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T back up my argument in

by Anonymouslpu (not verified) on

T back up my argument in regards to IR's collboration with the US, here is an excerpt by Nir Rosen:


Salah al Ubaidi, Muqtada al Sadr's spokesmen recently admitted that his movement was not getting along with Iran. Iran had helped them in the past but accounts of large Iranian arms shipments were "greatly exaggerated." Muqtada refused to be a slave to Iran he said, implying that other Iraqi Shiite leaders were. In fact Mahdi Army members in Iraq have taken to blaming the actions of their more notorious members on Iran, adopting a position similar, if disingenuous, to that of Iraq's Sunnis. Al Ubaidi also recently denounced Iran, accusing it of sharing control of Iraq with the Americans and criticizing Iran for not objecting to the long term security deal the Americans and Prime Minister Maliki are working on, to make the American military presence a permanent one.

There is no proxy war in Iraq, because the US and Iran share the same proxy and the US installed that proxy and empowered it. Today, to the extent that we can talk about an Iraqi "state," it is dominated by the Supreme Council and its Badr militia. The Sadrist movement of which the Mahdi Army is a loose militia is also the largest humanitarian organization in Iraq, providing homes, security, rations, clothes and other services to hundreds of thousands of Iraqis. It is a complex movement and certainly is as guilty of crimes as all the other groups that took part in the Iraqi civil war, including the Americans.

But it is also the most popular and legitimate movement in Iraq, and the one sure to outlast the others, despite predictions by former Bush lackeys...

http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/2008/05/...


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Q: watch the video. WRite a

by Anonymouspu (not verified) on

Q: watch the video. WRite a letter to the Samir Sumadai', Iraq's ambassador to the united states and complain to him....

Khatami has already admitted that Iran is exporting its revolution through military means:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7386001.stm

I recommend everyone to watch the video and read the BBC article.

Given the extent of collaboration between the US and the Mullahs in Iraq, I doubt very much that even if the US had iron clad proof, not even disputed in a court of law, they will not present it because if they really wanted to completely demonize Iran, the news and the Iraq's Ambassador's interview would have been broadcasted 24/7 on CNN, Fox, and other corporate media station...for now, this is just psychological posturing to get the biggest and best piece of piece of loot in Iraq.


Q

Jamshid, how selfishly convinent

by Q on

you will not respond to my requests to back up what you say with evidence?

You have no credibility with anyone unless you provide proof or take back all your lies. End of story. You are welcome to talk to yourself all you want.

Anonymouslpu: Yes, "U.S. counterterrorism officials said". That's perceisely my point. Where is the proof? Why aren't Iraqis or people supposedly hurt by these weapons saying this?


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TWT Video: Iraqi ambassador

by Anonymouslpu (not verified) on

TWT Video: Iraqi ambassador on Iran, oil and U.S. politics

Mr. Sumaida'ie said the Iraqi investigative committee, appointed by Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, will include the ministers of interior and defense and will gauge the full facts of the situation.

The committee was established on the heels of a parliamentary delegation that traveled to Tehran last week claiming to have evidence that Iran was providing mortars, rockets, small arms and armor-piercing roadside bombs known as explosively formed penetrators, or EFPs, that troops have discovered in recent months.

Iranian officials have denied accusations that they are supplying weapons to militias in Iraq.

U.S. counterterrorism officials said Iran has increased weapons supplies in recent months, adding that the Iranian government wants to diminish U.S. and Iraqi coalition efforts in the region.

"There continues to be a disturbing flow of arms from Iran to Iranian-backed groups inside of Iraq and there are some indications that the flow is increasing," the counterterrorism official said.

Watch the video:
http://video1.washingtontimes.com/multimedia/2008/...


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The US and IRan are up to

by Anonymouswe (not verified) on

The US and IRan are up to nothing good in Iraq and that's whay they collaborated with the US to install a puppet regime friendly to both so they can loot Iraq...They are morally wrong to interfer with the affairs of other nations...They will both pay for their immoral actions...No immoral act will go unpunished. You can't fool God or the IRaqis!


jamshid

I disagree

by jamshid on

I will not respond to your ranting Q.

First, let me make it clear that Iran and IRI are not the same. So stop using the word Iran when you are really meaning the IRI. This technique does not fool anyone.

Second, the IRI DOES want a state of chaos in Iraq for as long as the US is occupying it. If Iraq stablized and a US installed governemt in there could create the illusion of a democracy (which was easy to do) or at least something better than Saddam (which was even easier), that would cause the IRI many problems internally, and it would give its opposition greater maneuverability. It would also leave the US with much credit.

The way to avoid these? Create a state of chaos in Iraq. How do you do that? Bomb and bomb some more. Kill civilians, as many as you can. The IRI is smart thanks to its many Salmane Farsis like you.


Q

Abarmard, you are correct, and that's a problem for the US

by Q on

The Bush Administration can't stand the economic relationship between Iran and Iraq. In the minds of the Neocons it was them who were supposed to have the Iraq market place after "investing" in "liberating" it. What's more they temselves kept out "allies" like Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Jordan thinking US will get the loot. But non-allies like Iran and Syria are making bank on the border trade.

Now, Iran, a soon-to-be Euro-dominated economy is taking it all away from them and leaving them with huge debt to the Chinese for the war itself. Looks like even the grand prize -- Iraq's oil sector contracts -- will not be enforcable in the future, certainly not after the US military leaves.

They are in a bad place and they are hurting. This why they are as dangerous as a wounded snake. They could strike at Iran at any time. If they do, this is the reason, not any fantasy nuclear weapons or anything else.


Q

Sure Jamshid, if it makes you feel better about yourself

by Q on

you can continue thinking that.

Of course, any sane person who reads this thread can see your lies that I explicitly called out versus something negative about me that exists only in your head.


Abarmard

Iran has no need to cause trouble in Iraq

by Abarmard on

More than 80% of goods and services of Iraqis is done through Iran. Iran has a good relations with the Kurdish section, the central government and the Shia section. Iran is all over Iraq and an stable Iraq makes it better for Iran to gain momentum there. That's what we know. That's what the American and German (also saw it in BBC) tells us. The claim that Iran wants to create chaos does not make sense. What does not make sense, normally it's not true.

What's the fact here though, US is

-stuck in Iraq

-Ideologically bankrupted

-Has no strategy. Or has no strategy that works

-has no exit strategy. At least not the one that is shameless

-Has lost the war and her reputation. Now the joke is on the US. (They should have question those Pro Israeli "intelligence" that were pushing so hard to attack Iraq...more carefully)

Now Iran:

-Winning the hearts of Iraqis, in the north and south

-Anything from the cooking gas to building infrastructure is being handled by the Iranian firms and engineers

-Huge monetary investments in all sectors of the Iraqi society.

-needs to have US in Iraq, since can't fill the gap if US leaves

-Has helped US to secure many parts of Iraq, including the recent calm that was wrongly claimed by the US as the "Surge is working"!

With all the investments, especially direct money pouring into Iraq by Iran, Iran certainly wants a secure Iraq. Iran does not need to make Iraq a hell hole for US, that has been there since the beginning. US is embarrassed and now needs a scape goat. So it's going after Iran. That's basically it. Based on the American media! Now this makes sense.


jamshid

hyproQrite

by jamshid on

I have caught you with your fallacies (also known as "lies" in some places) and exposed them many times.

You accuse others of all sort of things and then you go boohoo booohoo mommy jamshid accusing me again. Such a spoiled little hyprocrite you are.


Q

jamshid you are such a tool!

by Q on

Of course they care about public opinion. What's rediculous is your notion that they spend all this time, money and pretense for something completely inconsequential. Is that consistent with any kind of "strategy"?

Public opinion isn't just about their personal profiteering. Bush and Cheney are nobodies in the grand scheme of things. They work on behalf a whole clas of investors who make the real money. These people's long term interest depends on keeping the people's faith in the American system going, and that means public opinion. Is this reality too sophisticated for you to understand, or beyond your comprehension?

I think it is.

Unfortunately, you have chosen to repeat lies and accusations without any evidence. There's no point even exploring what you mean, because chances are you are lying just like before. You have lied so often that nothing you say, nothing you accuse me or NIAC or anybody else is worth the time of the day to discuss, nothing you "theorize" can be trusted. Next time you grace us with your (non)wisdom, back it up with proof or stay quiet.


jamshid

Ignorance doesn't cost...

by jamshid on

You think that Bush and Cheney even care for public opinion? You think they will let "public opinion" stop them from their profiteering goals? Are you that ignorant?

I think you are.

They may "prepare" the American opinion for war, but whether that preperation succeed or not, they don't care. So little you know about Bush and neocons and where they come from, and yet you accuse me of being one. Public opinion... Makes me laugh.

In your ignorance you have fallen for the NIAC/CASMII bullshit and you already think that their BS has had an effect.

The root of the problem is the IRI and those who are at helm in Iran. They must go. It is the only way to protect Iran and its future.

Unfortunatley you have chosen to be a part of IRI by supporting its policies. Therefore, you too are part of the problem. Once the mollahs and your likes are sent back to the mosques, things will begin to improve.


Q

interesting theory Jamshid. Got Proof? didn't think so

by Q on

You have none. NIAC and CASMII are IRI Funded???? Is there something you are keeping from Homeland Security? Or was just complete bullshit that you made up?

No need to answer, everyone knows.

Even the worst of the allegations saying Saddam "funded the anti war movement" proved to be false.

They said the same thing about "North Vietnamese Propaganda" in the Nixon administration.

As long as there are useful idiots, they keep believing these stories. Thank You for keeping the tradition alive, Jamshid!

Suggesting the Anti-Iraq war demonstrations in Europe and US was "funded by Saddam" given the public opinion polls and world attitudes really makes you completely delluded.

I don't you think you can accept reality, under any circumstances!

The basic fact remains: the allegations against Iran are unfounded, they are based on speculation, yet nevertheless people like you keep repeating them, knowing that it helps make the case for a war. You can say you are against war all you want. What you are doing establishes a case for war.

So, if you are calling me, someone who has never defended the IRI, an "agent" or "supporter", isn't there 1000-times more likely that you are a war supporter? Since you and they are saying the same thing?

By contrast, IRI never acknowledges there is ANY danger of war. Their position is that US can't and won't attack. I think it is stupid and arrogant. So at the end of the day, you are repeating Cheney's lies, while I am not even holding the same position as the IRI. Yet somehow I'm part of the "millions" paid for propaganda?

Funny, isn't it?

Lastly, you are again wrong on Bush and Cheney. Public opinion matters a lot. At the time the decision was made to go to Iraq, 65% of Americans supported it and thought that Saddam and Osama were the same people. There is a reason Bush/Cheney waited until 2003 to attack. If they didn't care about public opinion, why not do it in 2001? Or even before 9/11?

They do care about public opinion, that's why it is them who are spending millions trying to change it.


jamshid

You are wrong

by jamshid on

It is the IRI and its supporters like yourself that is taking Iran directly inside the wolf's mouth.

You don't get it do you? Saddam, just like the IRI, secretly spent millions on anti-war propaganda. It was a good investment as millions protested the possibility of a US war against Iraq in Feb 2003 in Europe. You do remember those demonstrations, don't you?

And how did Bushie and Dickie responded? They laughted at it.

Similarly, Iran is spending millions secretly and not so secretly (NIAC/CASMII) in anti-war campaigns here in the US as well as in Europe. It has not succeeded to even a fraction of Saddam's anti-war campaigns.

I am not against these campaigns, but how do YOU think Bushie and Dickie will respond? Oh, they are going to tremble and back off "mabaadaa mardome america badeshoon biaad". Yeah right, just look at their records.

Through IRI's incompetence and uncalled stubornness, and IRI supporters' retardedness, Iran is directly going inside the US mouth. US will not even blink from such war, however the devastation that will follow for Iran may last for more than a decade. But to you and the IRI, ideology comes first, Iranians' lives second, errr... last.

The majority of Iranians are smart enough to know what to do in order to avoid war AND nevertheless get nuclear as well as other technologies without any fuss.

However, currently Iran is taken hostage by IRI and its supporters.

 


Q

The only problem is... you can't READ

by Q on

I said you are "repeating lies word for word" and you are. This helps make the case for bombing Iran. Can you really not get this? I am speaking English right?

Here is the lie you are repeating:

the IRI for funding all the bombings which has killed more Iraqis than the US soldiers have killed.

The article just said there was "only speculation" for this. Not only are you making a claim with no evidence, you are going far beyond the most rabid warmongers and blaming Iran for more killings than the USA? Only an ideological fool would believe this. Studies in the past have shown that still most Iraqis have died by US air strikes. But even the insurgency against US occupation, the civil war, you blame both sides' death on Iran??? There are Pentagon pundits that have just been exposed for getting paid to say the same thing.

It's so rediculous, it's not worth discussing. Once again: there is evidence. There is only a bunch of reports quoting US saying there is evidence. But as this article and others (it's no where near the "only" one) has now shown, what they considered evidence is so stupid it would not hold up in any court in any country.


jamshid

The only problem is...

by jamshid on

Quote from your post:

"In your case, you (jamshid) are busy repeating the lies (of warmongers) word for word..."

Umm... Let's see here. The only problem with your claim is that I have been against war all along as evidenced in my many comments which describe the devastation that a war could bring to Iran. And yet you claim that I am a warmonger? How uncareful of you Q.

Does this come from your pro-IRI mentality that anyone who is against the IRI must automatically be a warmonger? Oh, and those opposting the IRI are not considered among the "people" either. The "people" are only us IRI supporters, others are just... disposable.

Your "claims" are all alike, whether it's about me or about IRI's role in killing tens of thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians.

When it comes to falsification of facts, you and all the Bushies and Dickies are in the same boat; wearing the same fabric, just with different colors.


Q

oh you didn't get the joke? Let me explain

by Q on

You see, the article says there is NO proof, "only speculation" it says of Iran being behind these killings.

You "praised" me saying how Iran actually IS behind it. But the article is saying the opposite. Well, you see how that's totally absurd, a joke really. So I was giving you the benefit of the doubt that you must have meant it as a joke.

If you still don't get, try reading my comments over again.

People who actually care about Iranian lives, don't let their ideological hatred convert them into cheerleaders for war at the service of those Americans in power who do want to attack Iran and are making up lies to facilitate it.

In your case, you are busy repeating the lies word for word. That's fine, it's your own choice. But if you claim you care about the lives of iranians, that's funny!

Dear Zion: What you fail to understand is the nature of evidence. it's not an equal proposition between true/untrue. If you have evidence, you can claim something as true. If you don't, it's not true. It's not that Time magazine is "one report" is "casting some doubt", it's not "some doubt", they are being too generous to not piss off their corporate masters. It's that one news source has pointed out that the emperor has no clothes. There is no evidence. None of those other claims had any real evidence. This is not proof of innocense. It just says the case was based on lies. That fits very well with reality of the Bush administration.

The other point that you are purposefully missing in your effort to do damage control is the element of incentive. There is an established link between the major corporate media and the incentives they have to please the Bush administration and the war profiteers. They all admitted they were blindsighted during the Iraq war. This is an uncontroversial fact.

But what is the incentive for Time magazine or anybody else to please the IRI? What possible motive is there to help America's enemy #1???
Only a nut-bag conspiracy theorist (like all Mojhedeen) claim Iran has SO MUCH power that they control the media in the United States. I know you're a little out there, but I'm sure you're not that far gone.

Lastly, I welcome both of your efforts in making this news item one of the "most discussed" pieces on Iranian.com.


Zion

The upside down world of IRI model patriots

by Zion on

Media in the free world is filled with different reports, conflicting assertions and a huge variety of opinion op eds and analyses. Among all these, one report casts some doubt on a quite established fact, and for our IRI friends, that becomes immediately the fact that there is absolutely no evidence. Almost everybody else is of course engaging in propaganda. Only the one that can be somehow spinned to favour the regime in Iran is telling the truth.
Alice desperately trying to get back to the Wonderland this time around! :-)


jamshid

Couldn't help to add...

by jamshid on

"... good Iranian patriots who actually care about Iranian lives, should not waste their time trying to convince the out-of-touch delusional Tehrangelesis that..."

LOL!

What the hell is wrong with you today Q? You are not in your normal form, instead you are in such a happy fun mood... It's unlike you.

By the way, I am not criticizing your mood, just making a remark.

P.S. Still lauging at your quote! It's priceless!


jamshid

Re: Q

by jamshid on

What could possibly make you think that I was joking with you? Are you in a festive mood today?

You posted a very good article that shows us how the IRI is indirectly killing innocent Iraqis. I credited you for that.

What happened to your protective attitude? You care for Palestinians, but you don't seem to care for the Iraqis who in many ways are in a worst condition that the Palestinians are.

I blame the US for being a bully, the Iraqis (sunnis and shia) for beating each other to death instead of their enemies, and the IRI for funding all the bombings which has killed more Iraqis than the US soldiers have killed.

It all make you kind of nostalgic for the good old times, doesn't it? I am refering to the time of the previous regime when people in Iran, Iraq and Afghjanistan were all living in peace and prosperity (even Afghanistan).

Then you guys showed up and the rest is history.


Q

Jamshid jan, PLEASE, leave the comedy to professionals!!!

by Q on

you are terrible at it! Don't quit your day job.

Only in your mind "no evidence" = "proving" but that explains perfectly your world view, so it's not a surprise.

The only thing this "proved" was that good Iranian patriots who actually care about Iranian lives, should not waste their time trying to convince the out-of-touch delusional Tehrangelesis that there is a fake case being made against Iran. Because their entire identity and self-worth depends on partnering up with neocons and blaming Iran for everything. Therefore they have no room in their mind for reality.

Good job to you too!


jamshid

Good article exposing the IRI

by jamshid on

This was an excellent article further proving IRI's murderous activities in Iraq. Good job Q. Keep up the good work.


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Farokh jan

by Anonymous21 (not verified) on

UN zooresho tooye Darfur zad hame didim. boro aghalan be ye emamzadeye dige dakhil beband.


farokh2000

What a surprise!

by farokh2000 on

I am sure the American government knows this well, better tha anyone else who is looking for the fictional "Evidence".

But their goal is NOT really fact finding, otherwise, they would have let UN do their job rather than invading Iraq and murdering ten of thousand innocent people.

They are after this area's resources and geography at any and all costs.

In this country, no one wants to hear the truth. They just want to hear what benefits them to achieve their evil goals.

It has and will continue to backfire on them until they come to see the real picture. This is the age of Media and Internet, not the age of Empire building.


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finally some truth!

by Anonymous500 (not verified) on

:-))Khod Goozi o khod kahndi
ajab mard-e honarmandi

One Hezbollahi puts crap the other Hezbollahi thanks him and then both start "goozing" and laughing at the world because they have found "turth" about these ghormosagh mullah's denail of the fact that they are after atomic bomb. Yes this is the "turht" and our mullahs's are "peaceful" heyvanat.


sadegh

Thanks for this Q...

by sadegh on

Thanks for this Q...


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