Obama Plans to Close Guantanamo
10-Nov-2008 (15 comments)

WASHINGTON — President-elect Obama's advisers are quietly crafting a proposal to ship dozens, if not hundreds, of imprisoned terrorism suspects to the United States to face criminal trials, a plan that would make good on his promise to close the Guantanamo Bay prison but could require creation of a controversial new system of justice...



No Mo' Gitmo!

by IRANdokht on

I can't believe they are calling it controversial just because it's not "bush's way"! If they're being held as criminals for over 5 years, why not have criminal trials?  Any lawyers in the house to explain the difference to me?  

The move would be a sharp deviation from the Bush administration, which established military tribunals to prosecute detainees at the Navy base in Cuba and strongly opposes bringing prisoners to the United States. Obama's Republican challenger, John McCain, had also pledged to close Guantanamo. But McCain opposed criminal trials, saying the Bush administration's tribunals should continue on U.S. soil.




Relax, Brother, Relax!!

by Anonymous500 (not verified) on

We should all relax, indeed!! But read this news item and see why it is too earlty to relax!

آمریکا آزمایش موشک جدید در ایران را محکوم کرد


وزارت امور خارجه آمریکا اعلام خیر آزمایش موشک جدید در ایران را محکوم کرده است و آن را نقض قطعنامه های شورای امنیت و مغایر با تعهدات بین المللی ایران دانسته است.

اوايل امروز چهارشنبه، رسانه های دولتی ایران به نقل از مصطفی نجار وزیر دفاع جمهوری اسلامی گفتند ایران نسل جدیدی از موشک های زمین به زمین را که می تواند به اسراییل و جنوب اروپا برسد، با موفقیت آزمایش کرده است.

نجار گفت موشک جدید که «سجیل» نام دارد، یک راکت دو مرحله ای است که از سوخت جامد استفاده می کند و توسط کارشناسان صنایع فضايی – هوايی نیروهای مسلح ساخته شده است. این موشک از راکت هایی مانند شهاب ۳، که در آنها سوخت مایع به کار می رود، دقیق تر و استفاده از آن آسانتر است.

نجار گفت موشک «سجیل» دو هزار کیلومتر برد دارد، اما افزود که فقط برای مقاصد دفاعی طرح شده است.

در گذشته، کارشناسان نظامی غرب یادآور شده اند که ایران در بیان توانايی های تسلیحاتی خود گزافه گويی می کند.

اسراییل اخیرا تکرار کرد که امکان یک حمله پیشگیرانه علیه تاسیسات اتمی ایران را رد نمی کند و از کشورهای دیگر خواست تمام گزینه را باز نگاهدارند.

نمایندگان پنج قدرت جهانی که ایران را برای متوقف ساختن بخشی از برنامه اتمی اش زیر فشار گذاشته اند، روز پنجشنبه جلسه ای در پاریس تشکیل می دهند.

مقاماتی از ایالات متحده، بریتانیا، فرانسه، آلمان، روسیه و چین برای متقاعد ساختن ایران به تعلیق غنی سازی اورانیوم یک استراتژی دوگانه تشویق و تنبیه را دنبال کرده اند.

رابرت وود، سخنگوی وزارت امور خارجه آمریکا گفت شگفت انگیز نخواهد بود که آزمایش موشک «سجیل» در جریان اجلاس پاریس صورت گیرد.

او افزود این آزمایش همچنین بر اهمیت استقرار سپر دفاع موشکی در اروپا تاکید می گذارد، و باید برای روسیه نیز موجب نگرانی باشد.

American Wife

fine then

by American Wife on

You're being realistic.  Like I said, let us enjoy our moment.  It IS a big moment too.  Every great movement began with one step.  Whether the first step on the moon... Rosa Park's first step towards equality...

No one here is expecting miracles.  We're not placing Obama on a pedestal.  We've never called him the Messiah.  We're intelligent people who have particular causes and concerns.  We voted for Obama because we felt he could best address those issues.  It was a moral victory for the country as well.  He's been more pro-active in 48 hours than Bush was in 4 years. 

Ebi is right though... this needs to be done RIGHT or not at all. 

Kaveh Nouraee

It's Realistic Not Pessimistic

by Kaveh Nouraee on

There's a tremendous difference between being positive and pinning all of your hopes and dreams on the man.

What's disturbing is that Obama hasn't done a single thing as president yet, and has honestly done very little in the U.S. Senate outside of campaigning for the presidency, yet he is being placed on this pedestal built on this mountain of high expectations.

American Wife

Oh come on!

by American Wife on

It's  hardly naivete Kaveh!  It's called positivity!  After 8 years of total inaction by Bush on anything constructive... it's a breath of fresh air to see Obama getting proactive.  We all know that he's not perfect.  We all know he's not going to get everything done in one term. We know he's going to falter and screw up a time or two.  But why in the world are you being SO pessimistic? 

Chill out and let us enjoy the moment...:-)


The God Father of International Terrorism would be happy!

by Anonymous500 (not verified) on

It takes one homicidal-bombing by one criminal-to his-core terrorists of the Al-Qeda to bring these wishy washy "chapools" of San Franciscoies back to the world of reality as to what the War Against International Terrorism means; more than 50 of those who have been released from GITMO in the past several years, have already been either rearrested for the crime of terrorism, or have been sent to JAHANAM, by our GIs in different war theatres.

Mr. Obama would do himself and the sane and civilized world and our country much favor before attempting to close GITMO; he is a highly intelligent man and he'd better take this issue quite seriously as the closing of GITMO would only help Al-Qaeda and its new boss, the IRI in Iran.

ebi amirhosseini

It is good news,but....

by ebi amirhosseini on

it should be done properly & in the best interest of innocent poeple not the guilty ones.


too bad

by MRX1 (not verified) on

I was hoping leaders of IRI will soon seek residency over there.OH well may be islamo facists commit sueside by listening to his boring speaches full of hot air. one can only hope....

Kaveh Nouraee

The Naivete is So Deep

by Kaveh Nouraee on

It is utterly amazing that no one has drowned.

AW at least acknowledges the fact that it's a mess. But to think that this is just the beginning of one right move after another is telling me that some of you are living in some idealistic FantasyLand, and that Barack Obama is some messianic Walt Disney who is going to wash all of the troubles in the world away.



you've got it Abarmard

by IRANdokht on

this is just the beginning




It's a start

by Abarmard on

One right move after another, get use to it. Haven't seen smart, intelligent and English speaking president for eight years ;)

Now we can all relax. he will do the right thing

Kaveh Nouraee


by Kaveh Nouraee on

These yo-yos locked up in Cuba are enemy combatants who do the voodoo they do on behalf of Al-Qaeda.

Sammy bin Laden hit the U.S. once. They can easily hit it again.

American Wife

not sure what you mean by

by American Wife on

bringing them onto US soil might invite retaliation.  From whom? 

I understand what you're saying but why is it so difficult to determine if a crime has been committed.  Why can't they just be deported.  And seriously... how many of them do you think are real terrorists?  Not saying that NONE are, but is it just an assumption? 

What a friggin mess.

Kaveh Nouraee

Of Course It's Controversial

by Kaveh Nouraee on

And it's not because it's not "Bush's way". Bringing them to U.S. soil raises the very real possibility of retaliation on U.S. soil, for one. Releasing them? Do you think they're just going to say, "OK, thanks for the hospitality. Next time you catch me, can I stay at the Holiday Inn Express outside of Little Rock, Arkansas?"

They're being held as enemy combatants, not criminals. Whether you want to believe it or not, or whether you like it or not, there are still a couple of wars going on. They weren't picked up at the mall for shoplifting.

There's no real easy way to resolve this. This has been completely unconventional. There's never been an attack on U.S. soil like 9/11, so there's no precedent.

American Wife

This is just plain criminal.

by American Wife on

The sooner Obama makes some progress... ANY progress towards resolving this, the better.  Cleared of wrong doing but still detained?  Can't find a country to take them?  Why does any country have a choice.  If it's a Saudi citizen, send him back.  If he's Iraqi, why does Irag get to decide if they want him back.  Why shouldn't they be tried on American soil?  As ID says, if they've been accused of criminal acts, they get a criminal trial.  What a seri ass cluster this has been.  Thanks GW...