Roger Cohen: From Tehran to Tel Aviv
IHT / Roger Cohen
22-Mar-2009 (13 comments)

NEW YORK:

With his bold message to Iran's leaders, President Obama achieved four things essential to any rapprochement. He abandoned regime change as an American goal. He shelved the so-called military option. He buried a carrot-and-stick approach viewed with contempt by Iranians as fit only for donkeys. And he placed Iran's nuclear program within "the full range of issues before us." >>>
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Mehdi Mazloom

daryush - you and freedom

by Mehdi Mazloom on

Your argument against Israel is so pathetic hardly worthy of any intellectual value.

One wonders, by calling Israelis "Zionists" (a pseudo for dirty Jews), how much do you know about Israel, Jews and Zionism.  I known, I know, they are all same ghorme' Sabzi to ignorant like you. Heck, just by the fact you admit to be living in Iran, you also (unwittingly) admit that your freedom of expression is severely curtailed, and controlled. 

One of the biggest problem with kalleh e' shagh like you as Iranian, vis-a-vis us the Israelis (yeah, the Zionists) is that, we know you, and the people. Many of us speak your language, well versed in your glorious cultural, customs, and history, which is taught in Israeli high schools as eternal appreciation to Cyrus II of ancient Persia - allowing Jews return to their homeland in 530 ACE. That is the  very reason why we rarely criticize Iran itself - rather concentrate on current leaders for setting your country back 900 years, and endangering the stability of region. We have far deeper knowledge of your country then you have on our country

You know jack shit about us, that is the very reason, you find yourself forcing labels on us.

You wrote:

I live in Iran and my government has done many wrongs. I am open to
discussion about my "internal" issues with my system of regim
e

Why don't you tell others what is wrong with those "internal" issue in Iran, and let see if the akhoodah will let you live another day to tell us  more.

My advise (and I am sure many other Iranians will agree) to you is. You have enough to wary about the rampage unemployment, inflation rate, and massive corruption in Iran. Spend your time on the future of your own country, instead of trying to be more Palestinian then the Palestinians themselves.

If you are an anti-semitic, then agha by all means, go ahead admit it, and we will take it from there, one of us will put you in your place at no time.

There are many other true Iranians who also object to Israeli policies and treatment of the Pals. They present their pov with far less idiotic venom as you do. Many of them are pleasure to exchange ideas and engage in polemics.

You are a street fighter, with little intellect to show for.


Daryush

Farhad Kashani- Make 7 Up Yours

by Daryush on

No, don't mix the "US" hating with Zionism. Bowl$hit

You are a US hating, Human hating individual. I don't need the US and don't hate it. You need the US and pretend. You are a fool and can't fool those who know where Zionism gets fed from.

I am an Iranian and love Iran. I have not killed one Zionist, although they are cancer of humanity in the Middle East. But you are an Israeli who actually supports their government actions for occupations, and have killed many many countless innocent people by unjust occupation. You are anti Human and anti US, that takes all from that country, US, and give to little cancer Isreal.

I guess you need to check where you stand first, define Zionism the way it is rather the way it's justified.

I live in Iran and my government has done many wrongs. I am open to discussion about my "internal" issues with my system of regime, but you, a Zionist, is never willing to discuss the horrible actions by your government. (democracy my a$$). I have never seen a Zionist say one bad thing about their regime. So, go preach to your Zionist buddies, your days are numbered anyways.

If you need to get an Iranian name and come here to speak about the great land of Israel, you should know that there is some thing wrong there.

The perfume should smell good by itself, not by what the seller forces you to hear! Israel stinks. so you are needed to defend them here in the Iranian site(s).

And how interesting that your Zionist system clones itself as a second America. I bet at some point this will come to open and the American people will realize what they have done all these years, by your people. Then we'll have a lot of court work...

You think it won't happen? believe it. Yes, I am an Iranian who votes for president of the Islamic Republic of Iran. I don't hide that and come here with my own name.

I don't like Zionists claim to love America then work to make America weak against its true enemies and terrorism. Haven't the Zionists already done that? While US could have been finishing AlQaeda, they went to Iraq to "help" Israel. Many Trillions later, here we are. So who is the enemy of the State? The cancerous mentality of Zionism. It only knows destruction from its beginning. Dispute that? Then the hell with you.


Farhad Kashani

Here goes this cluless U.S

by Farhad Kashani on

Here goes this cluless U.S hating, IRI apologist and fundamentalism enabling leftist R Cohen again!

 


Mehdi Mazloom

Ostaad - Get real will you?

by Mehdi Mazloom on

you wrote:

When you put Roger's remarks next to Gordon Brown's, who declared in his latest speech that Iran has the "right" to a peaceful nuclear
program, the only conclusion one can draw is the "Anglos" are showing
Israel the finger, the middle one to be sure. It's not a simple
coincidence that Roger Cohen is, well, Jewish. He is the Brit's "voice"
here other than what comoes out of the #10 Downing St. 

Did it ever occurred to you, that, all these MAY be just another sophisticated and elaborate plan of disinformation by the western intelligence services, you know the Mossad, MI6, CIA, French, the German, and throw in the Russian one, all working is ca-hook to through the Akahoodah off track, They are using this "correspondent" as front man. What makes you sure he is not an operative in the MI6?

It exactly when the Akhmag'e nejad shows off the Orthodox Jewish rabbis in Iran, and worse kissing them in Public. Not realizing 1 or 2 of them may be Mossad agents.

These intelligences sevices are 10 years ahead of the Mullahs.

Get real my good man, see the real agenda behind all this. Smell the roses.


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When Obama 'L'Overture'

by sickofiri (not verified) on

When Obama 'L'Overture' talks to Iran think Afghanistan and Pakistan

Has Obama signalled to Tehran's mullahs that he means them no harm if only they would give up the nuke programme.

However, if you do a bit of semiotics on those signals you find that the nuances reveal all. So Obama's language meant: 'you are a great people' but can only remain as such if you stop 'destroying' and stop playing with big boys' toys and instead be 'responsible'.

Hang on a minute, couldn't we imagaine the US as such a country: destruction all over Iraq, Afghanistan and western Pakistan and responsible to no one but itself.

Not surprisingly the Iranian theocracy has been careful to understand the meaning of Clauswitz in reverse: 'politics is the continuation of war by other means'. Obama speaks to the Iranian people in order to undermine the official anti-Americanism of the regime and appeal to most right-thinking people's preference for peace over death and destruction. So they have welcomed his opening but want to see actions rather than words to demonstrate anything new about Obama over Bush.

//gazasolidarity.blogspot.com/2009/03/when-ob...


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heech-ghalati: I can assure

by summer (not verified) on

heech-ghalati:

I can assure you that mullahs and their lackeys will cease to exist much sooner than the US. Enjoy the ride while you can in the Islamists cesspool. Hoping your martyrdom for your superme butcher leader...


capt_ayhab

iranian4ever

by capt_ayhab on

What do you make of  Emanuel[Ex IDF] guy, elaborate, love to hear that.

 

-YT


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lko, I don't think so

by heech-ghalati (not verified) on

US got it's ass kicked in Vietnam and Korea, and is now talking to both of those regimes.

240 Marines is a small price to pay for 50 years of oil theft and manipultion. They had no business being there in the first place.

America can't do anything to IRI, that's the only reason it is willing to talk now.

Let me give you the answer right here in farsi, read it if you can:
//www.flickr.com/photos/kamshots/177607460/


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There would be no war

by lko (not verified) on

There would be no war against Iran, not now, not ever. However, regime change roo shakhesheh. That's what you get when you mess with the US military (240+ killed in Lebanon bombing) and the zionists, even it takes hundred year. Don't fool yourselves by these conciliatory rhetorics.


Ostaad

Roger Cohen is spot on

by Ostaad on

I have a nagging suspicion the Brits are on board with this too.

When you put Roger's remarks next to Gordon Brown's, who declared in his latest speech that Iran has the "right" to a peaceful nuclear program, the only conclusion one can draw is the "Anglos" are showing Israel the finger, the middle one to be sure. It's not a simple coincidence that Roger Cohen is, well, Jewish. He is the Brit's "voice" here other than what comoes out of the #10 Downing St.

 

Captain, I wish I could produce a proof, but I don't think Rahm is there to make sure Obama bombs Iran. On the contrary I think his selection as his chief of staff, a very important position, was meant to ensure Israel supporters who have done their best to influence policy in DC are dealt with by one of their own. So far I don't see anything remotely like the influence the "lobby" had on GW or even Clinton. But then, as we say,  shab deraaz ast.


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Not this again..

by iranian4ever (not verified) on

"His chief of staff Rahm Israel Emanuel is an IDF member."
Jeez I'm sick of hearing this. Rahm was also in Clintoon administration IIRC.. anyway how does having a punk IDF regular from gulf war days make him "in bed" with Israeli administration.. or was that sarcasm? As far as I know his duties are trivial at best.


Fred

Clueless Roger

by Fred on

Clueless Roger outdoes himself.

 

“that the regime's provocative rhetoric masks essential pragmatism; and that the best way to help a young, stability-favoring population toward the reform they seek is through engagement.”


capt_ayhab

Question

by capt_ayhab on

Could this be a pre-war propaganda?

Could this be nothing but propaganda aimed at the US population to put on a mask of "civility" in order to justify the upcoming attack?

Obama is deeply in bed with Israel. His chief of staff Rahm Israel Emanuel is an IDF member.

-YT