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but I am sure if said something like, "After which Zionism movement
gave way to modern day Israeli nationality, and identity" in Israel
you'd be laughed out of the room! 

I am in tune with what going on in Israel far more then you do. You believe to what you wish to believe. However, you have no clue how the young generation in Israel does not see "Zionism" as its central core of nationalism, and identity. They are "Israeli" nationals, and very proud of it, period.

Keep barking the "Zionist" tune all you wish.  

Mazloom, I'm glad you feel free to say anything on this site...

but I am sure if said something like, "After which Zionism movement gave way to modern day Israeli nationality, and identity" in Israel you'd be laughed out of the room!

Dude, I know why Israel is where it is and I'm OK with it. What I'm not OK with is for Israel to feel it can demonize, castigate and threaten Iran militarily to stay the dominant military force in the "region". Well the center of gravity of the region has shifted to the east and centers around Iran, Turkey, Iraq and what has become a combined Afghan-Pakestan enchilada put on the NATO and US laps. Here Israel can't do anything to help the US. Israel has become part of the problem rather than the solution.  The only way out is if Israel accepts this shift and opts for peace, or the aternative, which we all know is war. This is for both Iran and Israel to choose.

I have always said Zionism and Islamism are two sides of the same coin. Both need to go before peace is achievable in the Middle East. 

Zionism what?

Forget it. Zionism exist only in the imagination of IRI thugs. It is used as convenient label for "JEWS". Trust me, many of you pundits, are barking at the wrong tree.

It was founded in 1899 as a political organization. Its objective was to spare the Jews from continued unjustified persecution, and provide them with a homeland where they can live in peace and safety under their own religious principals, and heritage.

The Holocaust of WWII served as final impetus to the world leaders and catalyst to put that plan into action.

Back on 14 May 1948, when UN Resolution recognized Jews right to form Israel, Jews dream was was fulfilled. After which Zionism movement gave way to modern day Israeli nationality, and identity.

The rest is history.

Zionism's final dance

First and foremost let us distinguish between semites/ gentiles and Zionists. There is a world of difference. Secondly....you say 20 years until Zinism's demise. All I can say is I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!!!!!

20 years is just too long

I hope Israel go to hell sooner than 20 years.
I am ready for celebration, as of today.

Damn they'll now f..up Calif?Don't we havemuch more than enough?

Why don't they go to an island or north pole so they cannot f..up other people?

This is just wishful thinking

Israel is eternal. Read the Bible/Torah/Koran if you don't believe me.

facing the truth.

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we have been facing  these "truth" since 1948. Where is Israel today and where its enemies.?

Either they wised up gave up war in favor of peace and cooperation. Thanks to the Mullahs in Tehran, other Sunni Arabs are in process of recognizing  and accept Israel as legitimate member of the community, as counter balance to akhoodah, whom they see as the real threat to their regime..

The Palestinian cause had cost them dearly, and they see their own mistake and walking away from the Pals.

Just think about it. Had the  Arabs accepted UN Resolution 181, back in 1947, Today State of Palestine would also could have been celebrating its 61st birth date. What a waste. 

poor little Mehdi

he is making up irrelevant gibberish so he doesn't have face the truth.

Mehdi Mazloom: I am impressed! Now you are getting it

Yes, my friend, open your mind! Welcome to 21st century where apartheid is just as rejected as racism, religious intolerance, dictatorship, etc. So you see, neither Israel nor IRI are the answer. Open your mind, my friend. You are seeing the light. People are people. Jewish or Muslim, we are not made from different material. Only our "education" is different. Education can be corrected - not with bombs, or force but with communication and work. Welcome to the camp...

It also could read:

A study COULD BE conducted by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) has cast doubt over IRAN's survival beyond the next 20 years.

The CIA report predicts "an inexorable movement away from a MULTI ETHNIC 
to a one-ETHNIC solution, as the most viable model based on democratic
principles of full equality that sheds the looming specter of FARS
Apartheid AGAINST ITS KURDS AND BALUCHI CITIZENS while allowing for the return of the IRAQI AND TURKISH KURDISH
refugees. The latter being the precondition for sustainable peace in
the region."

The study, which has been made available only to a certain number
of individuals, further forecasts the return of all IRANian
refugees to the occupied territories, and the exodus of twENTY million
ETHNIC FARSI - who would move to the US in the next fifteen years.

"There is over 500,000 IRANIAN with American passports and more
than 300,000 living in the area of just California," International
lawyer FERANG GHORME'-SABZI COULD HAVE said in an interview with Press TV on Friday,
adding that those who do not have American or western passport, COULD have already applied for them.

"So I think the handwriting at least among the public in IRAN is
on the wall...[which] suggests history will reject the colonial
enterprise (think of U.S., Australia, Canada, New Zealand,the entire American continent),

He said CIA, in its report, alludes to the unexpectedly quick fall
of the apartheid government in South Africa and recalls the
disintegration of the Soviet Union in the early 1990s, suggesting the
end to the dream of an 'ISLAMIC land' would happen 'way sooner' than
later.

The study further predicts the return of over one and a half
million FARSI-IRANIANS to Russia and other parts of Europe, 

Lamb said given the IRAN'S conduct toward the BAHA'I & JEWISH, KURDS AND BALUCHIS, the 3 MUSA ISLANDS, AND ITS SUBVERSIVE ACTIVITIES THROUGHOUT THE ARAB STATE in particular, THE MULLAHS SUPPORT OF HAMAS AND HIZBOLLAH, the American public -- which has been voicing
its protest against TEHRAN's measures in the last 30 years -- may
'not take it anymore'.

Some members of the US Senate Intelligence Committee have been informed of the report

Now, after I put the same scenario could also be true for Iran as well. Few more points.

1. Israelis did not get to where there are because they are stupid. They know how to survive, and flourish. They will continue doing so, notwithstanding the gloom and doom.

2. Yes it is true about Israelis with American passports. In time of crises, and any hint of gender to Israel, absolute majority of them - including this writer), will go back and defend it with uncompromising zeal.

3. If such report indeed has been generated, it is likely for the purpose of predicting the future, and steps should be taken to prevent them.

This Lamb guy, discusses the first part of the report, conveniently ignores the second part, what US, EU and Israeli leader should do to prevent this from happening.

4. Israel had made it absolutely and crystal clear. All Arab leader - including the idiots in Tehran know it first hand. There is a red line beyond which they will not allow it to be crossed. Israel will take everyone else with it down the path of total destruction. It will begin with the Pals themselves, and on to others, including Iran itself. 

It just makes sense

Israel cannot exist as such for long, just as the report mentions, like Russia and South Africa. I always think of Israel situation as US and Mexican illegal immigrants. No amount of border patrol, wall or anything is going to stop them. Eventually these two will met into each other. It is only a matter of time. In fact, if Israelis want the Jewish population to stay relatively pure in that area (which by the way to me is a worthless goal) they should make sure that their neighbors are living in very similar living standards; they must make sure their neighbors are just as educated and that they have access to similar amenities as Israelis do. That is the ONLY way they can ever live in peace.

Isn't Press TV financed by the IRI government?

Yeah and Mahmoud and his boss Khameneii will personally see to it... nothing but trashy IRI sanctioned propaganda ... lol

No one can predict the next 20 years

I don't believe it's possible. Yet it is true that Israel will have to deal with the growing Palestinian population since they were unsuccessful to totally eliminate the Palestinian population in their quest for genocide.

We shall wait and see.