Iraqis rejoice as U.S. troops leave Baghdad
AP
29-Jun-2009 (8 comments)

U.S. troops pulled out of Baghdad on Monday, triggering jubilation among Iraqis hopeful that foreign military occupation is ending six years after the invasion to depose Saddam Hussein.
Iraqi soldiers paraded through the streets in their American-made vehicles draped with Iraqi flags and flowers, chanting, dancing and calling the pullout a "victory."

One drove a motorcycle with party streamers on it; another, a Humvee with a garland of plastic roses on the grill.

U.S. combat troops must pull out of Iraq's urban centers by midnight on Tuesday under a bilateral security pact that also requires all troops to leave the country by 2012.

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Q

sneaky Obama...

by Q on

What brilliant timing to quietly get out of dodge, and spare the humiliating media coverage of Iraqis reaction, that would be otherwise front page news.


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anonymous fish

Ok Q

by anonymous fish on

I simply asked you to define how what I said was rude.  But if you're not able to do so and want to twist and turn... fine by me.   If you don't want to or simply, can't, explain how I questioned your intelligence... cool.  However, it's my opinion that YOUR comment was clearly dismissive of my education. 

Why do you always equate difference of opinion with education?  I received a high education, including graduate studies.  My opinion is just as considerable as yours.  I even have the right to vote!!! 

Your conclusion that Obama is sneaky is simply ridiculous.  I proved my point by stating the fact that there was a pre-determined "get out" date.  That Obama moved earlier is a credit to his determination to get our troops out of Iraq.  That is my opinion Q.  And calling me names isn't going to change a thing.

 


Q

Give me a break!

by Q on

Now the perpetrator of the insult is supposed to be the judge of what is an insult? Can you imagine that standard holding up for anything? Theft, rape, basketball?

Don't be silly.

You are dismissive, insulting, and have a very nasty habit of not so much disputing any points but disputing the intelligence of the person. Furthermore, you can't take it yourself.

As usual, you are pretending you simply had a differnet opinion. It's not going to fool anyone. You don't see it? What am I not suprised.

As I told you. Be polite and you will be treated treated likewise.


anonymous fish

I suggest you read my comment again

by anonymous fish on

Or else explain how what I said was nasty in any way.  Putting you down?  In what way?  Did I cast aspersions on your intelligence?  No, I did not.  Did I question your education?  Not at all.  YOU however invariably come back with a sarcastic and ridiculing comment.  You continually act like you are the font of all knowledge.  And if someone else has a different opinion, they are ignorant or don't read or don't understand.  Do you not understand the difference between knowledge and opinion?  Is no one else allowed a difference of opinion? 

No, this is the increasingly collective view of many on iranian.com.  I say, thus, it is.


Q

yes, you have NO point

by Q on

don't turn this around on me, you are nasty and juvenile, unable to communicate other than by putting ohters down. There's no doubt about this by anyone who reads this thread.

And of course -- what a surprise -- you can't handle your own kind of nastiness thrown back at you.

Advice: if you want to be treated nice, be nice yourself. You would think something so simple would have sunk in by now. Whatever!


anonymous fish

oh come on Q

by anonymous fish on

You don't have to be so nasty all the time.  You are looking for a lame juvenile (I assume that's what you meant in your comment. :-) excuse to bash Obama.  But that's all I'm going to say.  You and others have this one-sided view of how to discuss things on iranian.com.  If someone disagrees with you, you use your undeniable intelligence to insult and ridicule them.  It's not productive but I think you know that.  You just like to insult people.  Next you'll continue to question my intelligence.  But that's ok.  Whatever rocks your boat.  Obama was damned if he did and damned if he didn't.  You'd be criticizing him if he pulled out a week early or a day late.  He didn't plan or organize any of the current news events.  And I personally don't think he let's them reflect on his actions. 

Why can't you just say something like... "let's discuss this.  did you know that he did "such and such".  did you see where he said "this or that".  or even... what do you think about "whatever".

why?  Because you're not interested in discussing ANYTHING.  You want to put it out there and by god, it's from God's mouth to your ears. 

ah. what's the point. 


Q

You don't read much do you?

by Q on

Actually yes, it was sneaky. These deadlines have been moving back and forth for political reasons several times already. These deadlines have tons of contingencies and conditions, such as levels of violence, all subjectively interpreted. 10 days ago Odeierno was saying the upsurge in violence may jeapardize the pull out. In fact, the pull out happened last week before the deadline, and the agreement was all of Iraq's major cities which was not kept (Mosul still occupied). In a slightly different news atmosphere there would have been a lot of pressure on Obama to postpone.

So, before you come in here and sound some lame jouvenile lines, educate yourself a little about the context.


anonymous fish

sneaky?

by anonymous fish on

Are you suggesting that Tuesday was NOT the pre-planned "get out" date all along?

sneaky?  Are you suggesting that Obama was just waiting for some exciting news like Michael Jackson dying to get out early?

sneaky?  Like the election in Iran was a surprise and he's been holding his breath for the last 2 weeks to "get out".

LOL.  Whatever.