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Ofcourse a t.......l can ask a simple q.

here it goes with all the causes:

There have been 63 serious flight incidents with Tu-154s, including 36 hull-losses with human fatalities. Six of those incidents resulted from terrorist or military action including an accidental missile shoot down by the Ukraine,

several from poor runway conditions (including one which struck snow ploughs
on the runway), cargo overloading by airlines in the lapse of
post-Soviet federal safety standards (several cases),

and mid-air collisions due to faulty air traffic control or mis-communication.

Other incidents have resulted from mechanical
problems (two cases prior to 1998),

running out of fuel on an unscheduled extended route,

pilot error, and cargo fires. According to
the BBC, the Tu-154 has an average safety record for its length of service, and
few accidents appear to have been due to technical failure.

• On 30 September 1975, a Malév flight on the Budapest to Beirut
  regular route crashed near the Lebanese shoreline. All 50 passengers
  and 10 crew on board died. No official statement has ever been made.

• On 8 August 1980, a Tarom flight from Otopeni International Airport, Bucharest to Nouadhibou International Airport, Nouadhibou, Mauritania
  crashed into the Atlantic Ocean and broke in half 300 m (984 ft) from
  the runway due to defective apparatus in the control tower at the Nouadhibou International Airport.
  Only one passenger, an elderly woman suffering from heart disease, died
  of a heart attack. The other 151 passengers and 16 crew escaped.
  

• On 11 October 1984, Aeroflot Flight 3352 crash when approaching Omsk Airport, 169 passengers and 5 crew members out of 170 passengers and 9 crew members, and 4 more on the ground were killed.

• On 10 July 1985, Aeroflot Flight 7425 stalled and entered an unrecoverable spin at 11,600 m (38,000 ft), 200 were killed.

• On 8 February 1993, an Iran Air Tours Tupolev Tu-154 was departing on a non-scheduled flight from Mehrabad International Airport, Tehran, to Khoram Dareh when it collided with an Iranian Air Force Sukhoi Su-24 that was on approach. All twelve crew members and 119 passengers were killed.

• On 6 June 1994, China Northwest Airlines Flight 2303 broke up in mid-air and crashed near Xian, China. A maintenance error was responsible. All 160 people on board died.

• On 29 August 1996, Vnukovo Airlines Flight 2801. Departing from Vnukovo Airport outside of Moscow. Crashed in Operafjellet (Opera Mountain) on Svalbard. All 141 (128 passengers) lost their lives.

• On 4 July 2000, MALÉV Hungarian Airlines Flight 262, a chartered Tu-154 landed on its belly in Thessaloniki, Greece because the crew had not extended the landing gear.
  The plane skidded 400 m (1,312 ft) on the runway and became airborne as
  the pilots applied throttle. The plane landed successfully on its
  wheels. There were no injuries, but it was deemed uneconomical to repair the aircraft.

• On 4 July 2001, Vladivostok Air Flight 352 from Yekaterinburg to Vladivostok crashed while on approach into Irkutsk,
  an intermediate stop, killing all 145 people onboard. The cause of
  accident was pilot error resulting in exceeding the safe angle of
  attack and the subsequent stall.

• On 4 October 2001, Siberia Airlines Flight 1812 from Tel Aviv to Novosibirsk crashed into the Black Sea, probably shot down by an Ukrainian surface to air missile fired during a training exercise. All 66 passengers and 12 crew were killed.

• 12 February 2002; Iran Air Tours Flight 956: The aircraft hit high ground in the Sefid Kouh mountains outside Khorramabad, Iran while descending for Khorramabad. All twelve crew members and 107 passengers were killed.

• 1 July 2002; Bashkirian Airlines Flight 2937 collided with a DHL Boeing 757. 
  The accident was caused by problems with the air traffic control system
  in Zurich and erroneous instructions given by the air traffic
  controller on duty.

• On 24 August 2004 Sibir Airlines Flight 1047
  from Moscow to Sochi crashed after being bombed by an on-board Chechen
  suicide bomber, killing all 46 people on the aircraft. This happened
  almost simultaneously with a similar bomb explosion on
  Volga-Aviaexpress airlines TU-134 flight from Moscow to Volgograd.

• On 22 August 2006, while en route from the Russian Black Sea resort of Anapa to Saint Petersburg, Pulkovo Airlines Flight 612
  crashed near the Russian border over eastern Ukraine in an attempt to
  fly through a weather front. All 160 passengers (including 45 children)
  and 10 crew were killed.

• On 1 September 2006, Iran Air Tours Flight 945 skidded off the runway as it was landing in Mashhad and caught fire after a tire blew during landing. The aircraft was carrying 147 passengers, 29 of them died.

• On 15 July 2009, Caspian Airlines Flight 7908 with 153 passengers and 15 crew onboard and traveling from Tehran to Yerevan
  crashed 16 minutes after take-off near the Iranian city of Qazvin,
  killing all people onboard. Police reported that witnesses saw the
  aircraft's tail on fire as it circled and attempted an emergency
  landing. The crash, in an agricultural field, left a path of wreckage
  200 yards long. Authorities were able to locate two out of the three
  aircraft flight recorders, although they do appear to be damaged

Khappy now? 

-YT 

sorry

computer hickup

IRANdokht

LOL

Thanks Capt'n (and oonam keh gofti khodeti :-P )

na baba what nokhod siah. Can't a girl ask a simple question? 

I was just saying the data was not complete for me to draw the same conclusion as you were.Thanks for giving me half the data with additional links to go find the rest myself LOL

In any case, I'm still totally against economic sanctions. 

Have a wonderful day

IRANdokht

IRANdokht jan to.....l jan ;-)

Allow me to repeat, Crashes are based on mile/passenger/year, plus the area they cover.

Arguably one of the most notable civilian airliners of its era, the
Tu-154 has been the mainstay 'workhorse' of Soviet airlines for several
decades, servicing well over a sixth of the
world's landmass and carrying about half of all passengers flown by
Aeroflot and its subsidiaries in that time (137.5 mill/year or 243.8
billion pass/kms in 1990).

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TU-134

And if you check the other sites they will give all relative data, unless you want to send me after Nokhod Siah? lol

-YT 

all that noted sir

baba capitan jan

if there were 10000 AB flights and 2 crashed, it'd be relatively better than having 2000 Topelov flights and one of them crashing!

it's the relative number that's important and none of those links shows a relative number.

These Topelov were made by the Soviet Union. It's been a while...

After the fall of the Soviet Union, Iran was stuck with those old planes because of the sanctions that did not allow newer aircraft from other resources. There is no more Soviet Union for Iran to buy spare parts and new aircrafts from.

No matter how you look at it, Iran is not using Topelov because they're "better" planes!

IRANdokht

IRANdokht jan

Numbers that I gave you with link are not relative numbers[%] they are actual accidents. If you refer to the link you will find all the info needed.

As i have said before, I am not much for Russian made goods, but one manufacturing system that is prevalent in Russia is simplistic and uncomplicated designs, which make for far easier maintenance and less break downs.

This link will give you bit of data on Topolov which is  sister design to DC 9, with first flight in 1967.

The Tupolev   is a Soviet medium-range trijet airliner designed in the mid 1960s. Arguably one of the most notable civilian airliners of its era, the Tu-154 has been the mainstay 'workhorse' of Soviet airlines for several decades, servicing well over a sixth of the
world's landmass and carrying about half of all passengers flown by Aeroflot and its subsidiaries in that time (137.5 mill/year or 243.8 billion pass/kms in 1990).

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TU-134

For total accidents by airline and or year and number of fatalities you can see the links below.

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and...

//www.planecrashinfo.com/cause.htm

Topolov with its long service has had less accidents than relatively new Airbus series[introduced in 1978], with 35 fatal accidents thus far

-YT 

P/S In last 2 months or so there has been 3 fatal accidents of which two were Airbus.

Capt'n jan

Thanks for the info, but for me these numbers are hard to figure out. When you say since 1950's this many have crashed, how many total plane were produced by all those different manufacturers and out of how many flights did these statistics come from?

I have no idea how many Topolov Russia has made since 1950 compared to Boeing, but I think that should be factored in too. I also tried to find that info myself but was not able to. I'd appreciate some help :o)

IRANdokht

Dears IRANdokht, Ostaad

Due respect, As sad as it is to lose that many lives in an airplane crash allow me to interject by saying that although I am not much for Russian made goods, but I posted this comment in a blog by Mr. Sepehr and I would like to share it with you guys.

Statistically, Russian made Topolov and Yakovlev have been in much less accidents compared to Boeing, DC series and even Airbus series:

by capt_ayhab on Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:20 AM PDT

Not that I am found of Russian made air planes BUT just a little bit of research before any blog will be nice. 

Since 1950's the partial list of air crashes by type are as follows:

Airbus    35 Accidents

Boeing       176 Accidents

McDonald Douglas     89  Accidents

Topolov+Yakavlev     32  Accidents

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and...

According to statistics followings are the causes of crashes:

55%: Flight crew error

17%: Airplane

13%: Weather

7%: Misc./Other

5%: Air traffic control

3%: Maintenance

I am by no means an aeronautical engineer , but what I hear is that the strength of Russian jet liners are due to their simple and uncomplicated designs, as opposed to highly sophisticated American and European models. Their simple design is a huge plus when it comes to equipment maintenance and malfunction.

Besides as you notice, statistics contribute only 17% of all crashes to equipment. 

regards

-YT 

Thank you Ostaad

These sanctions hurt the people more than they would ever hurt the government. 

Stop the sanctions against Iranian people and save their lives!

IRANdokht

Khamenei AN: Stop anti Americanism, so O can lift sanctions!

Ostaad,

Tell your beloved IRI regime to stop its blind and stupid 24/7 bashing of America so it can lift sanctions. Its out of thuggishness to insult and bash someone, then ask them (actually order them) to do you a favor! Not only you don't have any logic, but apparently, you don't have character either!

Ofcourse, we know that IRI doesnt give a rats a@@ about Iranian lives, so whose naive to think they would stop doing that? IRI survives on anti Americanism.