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Timothy, Craig: just in

Timothy, Craig: just in case you were "seriously" interested to know about the history of Iran-US and why….

Here is a short yet excellent review of the past 50-60 years of the two country.

It is excellent in one sense that it paints a picture of what if they situation was the other way around…. How would Americans feel then.

//iranian.com/main/2009/nov/coup-detat-revolution

Mehrdad

Gentlemen, don't forget my own contribution evaluating

Daioleslam's "research"

//iranian.com/Shorts/2007/june2007.html#1...

The true axis of evil : Left and Islamists!

Shah Gholam,

You say: The suicide bombers and Al Qaeda are symptoms and not the cause. Such things happen when the world is abused and misused by Western nations.

Just one note, if there is an justification for every crime ever committed by Islamists, then, there should be a justification for every crime committed, period. If we accept your comical logic that actually that is the cause of why Al Qaeda and IRI and others behave the way they do, then we can find a million excuse to justify Israel or America or Russia or China or Europe or Shah or anyone else’s’ actions. Al Qaeda and IRI kill for the sake of absolutely another goal, which is establishing an Islamic empire. They are racing to establish one. Using that same logic of if there is a “justification then it should be Ok”, America went into Iraq, liberated a nation from tyranny and its soldiers are sacrificing now in order for Iraq to have a prosperous democratic future at the time that forces inspired and/or supported by IRI are blowing little children and women into pieces a few yards from American soldiers in Iraqis markets and bazaars. So which one is more righteous?

What goes through your mind to justify such crimes by these Isalmists? How much hate and enviousness and jealousy can one possibly have inside of them to make such outrageous, simply outrageous, claims to justify such barbaric behavior by these Islamists? How much can you possibly get it wrong? What is the limit, I like to know, to how much oblivious one can play to these horrendous acts by these people that you are deeply in love with? 

NIAC is an IRI lobby

How much can one be possibly brainwashed to call anti American pro IRI group like NIAC and Left wing group like “J street” progressives? If you’re really “progressive” in the sense of defining the word, you don’t hijack it, as if others are “regressive”. We all know that the Left is the true regressive since every time they took power it had led to socialists dictatorships and deterioration of human rights principles such as we see in Cuba, Venezuela, Bolivia, former Eastern block, and we see forces who call themselves progressive in Europe and U.S and even among us Iranians, showing the outmost disrespect for opposition view and intolerance for the other, and show the outmost potential for ruining the democracy they live in if they ever fully grab power. Look at the Left waging war on FOX news! That’s just one example.

What the Left has done is hide behind terms such as ”progressive”, because that again is a propaganda tool. NIAC is pretty much an IRI lobby. The things they used to say to legitimize the IRI regime prior to June 12th uprising is not a secret, and after that, they have been hiding in a shell out of embarrassment.

Darius jan

You know that I admire and respect Dr Parsi, but would you please let Leo DiCaprio continue to play Jack Dawson? he's good in that role ;-)

Thanks dear :o) 

IRANdokht

You got it wrong

The suicide bombers and Al Quaida are symptoms and not the cause. Such things happen when the world is abused and misused by Western nations against even the very laws and regulations they have put in place as an apparatus such as the UN and the Geneva conventions. Next time, I am sure, the US will think many times before attempting to invade another country simply becayse she can't afford massive loss of resources. Israel, has so far been held up by the US protection but as this one starts to faint, Israel will come head on to its harsh reality of its past sixty years.

You are right to point to diplomacy. However, you are pointing at the wrong crowd to blame as you keep doing on various posts.

TITANIC REMAKE FOXED OUT... NIAC "My Heart Will Go On"

SOON IN YOU NEAREST MOVIE THEATER

THE REMAKE Which 20th Century FOX Refused to Produce !  ...

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=796bHaAtlkE

Rated PG-13 for disaster related peril and violence, nudity, sensuality and brief language. 

NOW BROUGHT TO YOU BY NIAC !

Directed by Babak Talebi

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=och26QdEEF8

Starring in the Title Roles: Trita Parsi as Jack Dawson and Irandokht as Rose DeWitt Bukater ... ;0)))

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=saalGKY7ifU

Sorry I JUST Couldn't Help Myself ...

Pass On the Pop Corn !

LOL

If Suicide bombers and Al

If Suicide bombers and Al Qeada pursued diplomacy,Isreal would be solved and Afghanistan and Iraq would be over.

But for some,the reason Palestineans and Al Qeada don't pursue diplomacy is understood.They don't question it.Yet they don't understand why the other side doesn't pursue diplomacy and they consistantly question the reason why and blame the one side only.

Funny world isn't it? Some people just are stuck to the stripes on their backs..

Right on the money Irandokht.

Well said!

Mehrdad

Maybe...

Iran could use a Glenn Beck!? He certainly seems to be doing a good job of mobilizing the opposition here in the US, wouldn't you say? :P

An Iranian Rush Limbaugh would probably be more effective though!

OK, anyway... it's obvious we don't have the same opinion of NIAC. I wouldn't accuse them of being a front for the IRI but I've never seen anything from Trita Parsi published on this website that seemed to be anti-IRI. They may be the epitome of a reformist movement but what good is that when you use advocacy of reform just to obstruct any other kind of more radical change? It serves the interests of the IRI, whether intentionally or not.

No skeletons just an ambition to become an Iranian Glenn Beck!

Everything is sacred.

worried is worried!

Skeletons in the closet are a problem, whether they help the defendent in this particular case or not :)

Worried discovery may be misused by "critics" not "the court"

Everything is sacred.

AM

I read the whole article.

Daeisosalam is so scared shitless that he is now parsing a "broad definition" of lobbying and he doesn't say NIAC's goals align with the
Iranian regime.  He wants to say he was just joking around!

Right. He tried to get the case dismissed. That's standard procedure when people get sued.

The Judge ruled against him, and hence the discovery phase in which the defendant gets to look for evidence that accusations he made against NIAC have merit. The defendant has not lost this case yet. And my interpretation of this article is that NIAC is trying to do damage control because they are worried about what the discovery process might turn up.

That's what I got out of this article, knowing nothing about the case. If that was NIAC's best attempt at spin then I think they may have a problem on their hands. They seem to be worried about what might turn up, whether they win this case or lose it.

Craig the article is self-explanatory.

Read the whole article. 

NIAC was accused ...

NAIC sued this mini-neocon Daeielsalam for accusing them of lobbying for the Iranian regime.  Daeisosalam is so scared shitless that he is now parsing a "broad definition" of lobbying and he doesn't say NIAC's goals align with the Iranian regime.  He wants to say he was just joking around!

Anyway, as the article and Trita said the Iranian-American community is all f***ed-up on this issue and people believe what they believe no matter the court's ruling.

Every stage of this litigation has been bad for the Daeisoalam guy and now he himself is backing down.  Sort of like Reza Pahlavi whose family and 3 children are born and raised here and will never want to go to Iran but some people are all lovey dovey about him and his family going back to Iran to their nice comfy palaces!

So that does it for me.  You can break heads with others ...

Everything is sacred.

Starting in 2007, NIAC was

Starting in 2007, NIAC was accused of, among other things, being an arm of the Iranian government,
receiving funds from Iranian nationals, breaking lobbying regulations and acting to subvert U.S. foreign policy. The charges were dishonest at best and defamatory at worst.

Isn't that for a court to decide, and not this author?

But even the informal victory proved taxing.

What "informal victory"? The Judge merely found that if the statements made by the defendant were false, that they could be considered defamatory. And speaking of that, this statement by the judge means that if the charges are false they are defamatory. So there goes the whole "dishonest at best, defamatory at worst" routine.He's trying to mislead with that wording. If the charges are NOT deemed to be defamatory by the court, that means that the charges have been found to have merit. You can't have it both ways in a defamation lawsuit.

Parsi says he's worried that the process of discovery, in which his
organization has forked over additional information to the defense,
could very well provide fodder for critics to continue launching
misleading attacks.

Read more at: //www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/02/naic-and-j-street-progres_n_343008.html

Discovery? That's the part in which the defendant gets to examine the records of NIAC in order to try to prove his claims were true? I wonder why Trita Parsi would be so worried about that, if the claims are false as he asserts? Discovery should result in complete vindication of NIAC.

Personally, I think it'd be stupid to think the same IRI that sends basiji pretending to be dissidents into crowds of protesters in order to identify ringleaders WOULDN'T have agents in the US trying to influence American foreign policy. And if those agents aren't with working through NIAC, then what organization are they working through?

Sucks to Daioleslam the defendent and his crowd!

Everything is sacred.

Professional sycophants

The professional sycophants who are wishy-washy to boot are the last people to know what is what.

The defendant parses his statements 2 finely the judgment said

"The "defendant parses his statements too finely," the judgment read, when looking at Daoileslam's broad definition of what constitutes a "lobbyist." "The 'sting of the charge' is not, as defendant would have it, that plaintiffs are lobbyists. Nor does the assertion that plaintiff's goals align with the Iranian government's goals carry real bite."

The "defendant's defense of truth, at this stage of the proceedings, must fail," the judgment concluded at another point. "The Court concludes that defendant's statements are capable of conveying a defamatory meaning... the Court cannot find that defendant's statements are incapable of conveying a defamatory meaning as a matter of law."

Another words Sucks to Daioleslam the defendent! The more the discovery, the more the defendant is screwed as a matter of law.  The rest is wishful thinking of the Daioleslam's crowd. 

Everything is sacred.

in the world of the powerful warmongers...

any group who promotes diplomacy over militarism would be falsely accused and brutally attacked.

IRANdokht

That no good discovery

 “But even the informal victory proved taxing. Parsi says he's worried that the process of discovery, in which his organization has forked over additional information to the defense, could very well provide fodder for critics to continue launching misleading attacks. He added that several publications have called his group with questions that leapfrog off of Daoileslam's charges. “

 Looks like the early stages of damage control campaign  on the part of the lifetime president of NIAC lobby who knows what information gleaned from discoveries can do to carefully made-up public image.  Perhaps he should think of it in the context of the newly coined legal terminology “informal victory”.