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Gholam

No.  I just realized that at this point, when you have become abusive and are accusing me of being other users (which I am not-I ado not know who this anonymous111 person is-but whoever he / she is, he / she must have been right), there is no reason to continue a discussion with you.  So, i went ahead and flagged your comment.  I will leave it to the site administrator to exercise his discretion.

Anonymous observer or Anonymous111.2

I have no fear to do what I do here. If posting anti Zionist news and reality bothers you, it only provides more facts as to who you are than about me being "non Iranian". I guess you have never seen an Iranian defending Palestinians. Too bad, here I am!!!! Shove it down your throat.

The tough reality for you is not Iran nor if I am Iranian, what you cannot swallow is my posts on the Zionists and their filth on a widely read Iranian.com. The Zionists have managed pretty well to "silence" general Arabs about Palestinian problem. Silencing much more sophisticated of 70 million strong has proved a challenge for them like no other time in Israel's shameful existance. The Iranian public opinion is very important in this media war and I intend to give Iranians as much information as possible to safeguard Iran and expose the existentional enemy of Iran and Iranians 'Israel'.

You can think whatever you like about who I am or not, your bear no significance for me what so ever (not to mention 99.99999999% of all Iranians) to oblige me to prove the non-sense you ask, especially when you are considered a lacky at best and a Zionist cloaked in Iranian flag.  Hope you heard that with your long ears!

As for Mr. Panahi, I suppose torture to you is only 'waterboarding' in its mild sense and whatever CIA or MOSSAD do to their victims but the following passage from Panahi's letter clearly illustrates what is 'torture' as applied to him:

They refused. Then, they chained me like the medieval prisoners and put me in a police patrol and took me to another part of the airport. There were many people, women and men from different countries. They handed me off to new policemen. They chained my feet and locked my chain to the others, all locked to a very dirty bench. For 10 hours, no questions and answers, I was forced to sit on that bench, pressed to the others. I could not move. I was suffering from an old illness. However, nobody noticed. Again, I requested that they let me call someone in New York, but they refused. They not only ignored my request, but also that of a boy from Sri Lanka who wanted to call his mom. Everybody was moved by the crying of the boy, people from Mexico, Peru, Eastern Europe, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and ... I was thinking that every country has its own law, but I just could not understand those inhuman acts.

//www.wsws.org/articles/2001/may2001/iran-m04.shtml

I wonder, if you think that Mr. Panahi was not tortured, then what was all the fuss you made about the recent "strayed' Brits into Iranian waters? 

I can only conclude that if Iranian Guards chained these men like the US Immigration chained Panahi, under the circumstances described in his letter, you would then have no objection and call it a "fair treatment", otherwise you have simply made an ass of yourself again!!!!! 

Lastely, you have to admit you are suffering from "konsuzi' since it is widely believed among Iranians that 'Konsuzi Bad Dardieh' but nothing like cancer. You may be lucky to fix it by a single trip to Ghazvin! Does my Farsi makes sense to you this time or should I explain it further? 

May be a better luck next time for a Bozo like you. We do need more of your entertainment after all!

LOL

Your response is at best dubious. I told you what happens to Iranians and then you comeback with a fainted logic of 'thousands of immigrants". I guess addressing the fact of life for Iranians is not part of your logic nor it should be since you ought to be licking someome else's ass but the Iranian one.

and Iranians are important to you?!!! The guy who has never responded to the question of whether or not he is Iranian, has called himself a "citizen of the world", cannot read or write Persian, has declared that his concern for loss of lives by Iranians is not more than that for loss of life by anyone else in the world, and last but not the least, the guy who was spamming this site with nonsense articles about Israel and Palestine (to divert attention) when Iranians were being gunned down, arrested, beaten and raped by IRI in the post-election uprising!!!  Now all of a sudden you care about Iranians??!!  What a load of crap!!!  

And if the U.S. is so bad, why is your butt here?  In the past, you have declared that you're here to fight the "Zionists" here.  But that doesn't make sense because all you do in your "fight" is to surf the net, go to obscure sources and post articles about IRI's military might and the Israeli Palestinian conflict.  So, unless you can show us a video of yourself here on the street corner holding up a sign exposing "Zionists", I suggest you pack up your kaseh koozeh (if you even know what that means) and head on back to the Bakaa Valley where you came from.  There's internet connection there too.  You can spam internet sites from there as well.  Trust me buddy, you will NOT be missed.

PS/ why don't you respond to my comment about the Jafar Panahi incident, where you were caught in a lie (again).  Cat got your tongue?   

I guess I should

First of all, my comment was directed toward this IRI jackass, Gholam Ali-Geda, who spams this site with propaganda day in and day out.  He talks a good game about western and Israeli military "aggression", but every time there is news about the IRI doing something militarily, he seems to be dancing naked in joy.  He is a hypocrite like the rest of them.  FYI, this guy is an  IRI agent.  I'll just leave at that.

 I guess I should also lick every Iranian enemy's ass as you do to gain a stamp of approval like you do here, right ?

Second, the U.S. captures thousands of people every year at its borders trying to cross illegally from all over the world, including the Middle East.  The overwhelming majority of them are released right away and are returned to the country of departure.  The ones who end up released on bail or detained in immigration prisons are the ones who claim some form of relief from deportation, such as asylum, etc.  Whatever the U.S. does, it does not charge illegal border crossers with espionage and hold them hostage as bargaining chips like the IRI does.  In fact, the U.S. can't wait to deport these people as soon as possible so that it doesn't have to spend money on them

Your response is at best dubious. I told you what happens to Iranians and then you comeback with a fainted logic of 'thousands of immigrants". I guess addressing the fact of life for Iranians is not part of your logic nor it should be since you ought to be licking someome else's ass but the Iranian one.

Lastely, if what I post here makes me "an agent", it must simply be a "koon Soozi" for you and some others who have nothing to say about Iran but their rage against it. If you are so idealistic about human decesncy what the hell are you doing in a country that has written the book on torture, rape, occupation, invasion, mass killings and so forth. In fact the history of this country is written on blood of its own indegineous people not to mention the people of other colors. You don't see your own hypocracy do you? You sound very much like a hard core communist who chooses to live in the US. And please don't comeback and tell me the difference between killing your own and someone else as if that is the ticket to genocide. That may mean much to you but no intellectual would pay a cent for that sort of cheap argument.

BTW, Gholam, Here's Why You're a Liar

Here's director Jafar Panahi's own account of what happened to him at JFK airport:

 //www.abc.net.au/rn/arts/atoday/stories/s291402.htm

He was not taken to "jail for several days" and "beaten".  While I don't condone the way he was treated, your exaggeration and lies about this event just shows what kind of character you are.  Everyone should look at all of your other posts with the same consideration now.

Lastly, but most importantly, the same director, Jafar Panahi, who you shed crocodile tears for, was arrested, along with his wife and daughter in July, 2009 in Iran by your IRI goon bosses because he had attended a memorial ceremony for people who were murdered by the IRI in the post election uprising.  Here's the news on that event:

 //www.indiewire.com/article/jafar_panahi_arrested_in_israel/

Maybe that's why you get the whole "jailed and beaten" thing from.  

Shame on you...again. 

Bavafa

First of all, my comment was directed toward this IRI jackass, Gholam Ali-Geda, who spams this site with propaganda day in and day out.  He talks a good game about western and Israeli military "aggression", but every time there is news about the IRI doing something militarily, he seems to be dancing naked in joy.  He is a hypocrite like the rest of them.  FYI, this guy is an  IRI agent.  I'll just leave at that.

Second, the U.S. captures thousands of people every year at its borders trying to cross illegally from all over the world, including the Middle East.  The overwhelming majority of them are released right away and are returned to the country of departure.  The ones who end up released on bail or detained in immigration prisons are the ones who claim some form of relief from deportation, such as asylum, etc.  Whatever the U.S. does, it does not charge illegal border crossers with espionage and hold them hostage as bargaining chips like the IRI does.  In fact, the U.S. can't wait to deport these people as soon as possible so that it doesn't have to spend money on them

Third, any decent country would have probably fined and released these people (and the three hikers).  But how can anyone expect decency from a government that rapes its own people to death in its prisons...well, that's anybody except its propaganda agents like Gholam-e-akhoond here.  

There is a limit

There is a limit to how stupid one can/should be. How do these, supposedly otherwise bright people not learn that "inadvertently crossing borders" is NOT a good thing?? Doesn't the rule 'ignorance is no defense' apply to them? It sure does to the rest of us if we break the law.

Anonymous observer: What do you thing would be the right

course of action?  Should any intruders be greeted with no questions asked?  Or should only western intruders be greeted with no questions asked?  What is your recommendation in dealing with this type of incidents?

Mehrdad

No Dude

Gholam, for a peace loving person like you who is against aggression by the U.S., Israel, etc., and always laments "imperialism", you sure get an erection every time the IRI does something stupid with its gun toting thugs.  I guess Imperialism is bad only if it's not IRI imperialism!!!  But then again, when have IRI stooges like you not been hypocrites???!!!

No Dude! you got it wrong, the erection is yours since it is the IRI capturing Westerners in their illigal intrusions in its waters.

I do not recall you raising your voice against Iranians captured by the Coalition forces in Iraq and Afghanestan. For that matter, you know darn well what would have happened with Iranians if they "drifted" into US or British waters!

Let me give you an example, a well known Iranian film director was pulled out of his plane in J. F. K in NY on his way from Tehran to Hong Kong for his film preview in the Film festival a few years back. He was immediately shackled and beaten for several days in Immigration jails and was finally put on the plane and sent back to Iran. That is how "they" treat Iranian intruders. I can site many such incidents in Iraq and Afghanestan and even in the US where Iranians were mal treated simply because they overstayed their stays or were simply racially profiled.

What all that means, according to you, is that you get your erections only when you see Westerners mal treated by Iranian security forces. You are not alone here, there are several "self claimed Iranian patriots" who have the same diseas as you do. You are in a right company!!!!! With patriots like you, I am afraid, we don't need enemies!

You know

Gholam, for a peace loving person like you who is against aggression by the U.S., Israel, etc., and always laments "imperialism", you sure get an erection every time the IRI does something stupid with its gun toting thugs.  I guess Imperialism is bad only if it's not IRI imperialism!!!  But then again, when have IRI stooges like you not been hypocrites???!!!

Or perhaps they think Iran belongs to them so why go thru

troubles!

Mehrdad