George W Bush 'raised $400 million for action against Iran'
Telegraph UK / Toby Harnden
11-Jan-2010 (20 comments)

President George W Bush requested and received funding of $400 million (£200 million) for the plan after he made a secret appeal to Congressional leaders last year.

The money is likely to be used for operations carried out by the CIA and other intelligence agencies, according to the New Yorker magazine.

The appeal for funds "was focused on undermining Iran's nuclear ambitions and trying to undermine the government through regime change" said the magazine.

A source cited the contents of the appeal - known as a Presidential Finding - as involving "working with opposition groups and passing money".

The magazine claimed that American special forces had been conducting cross-border operations into Iran from southern Iraq since last year.

This was denied yesterday by Ryan Crocker, the US ambassador to Iraq.

"I'll tell you flatly that US forces are not operating across the Iraqi border into Iran, in the south or anywhere else," he told CNN television.

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YMJ

$400 million for action against Iran

by YMJ on

It's clear America is meddling in the internal affairs of Iran.


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StoneHenge

yeah keep laughing but well see who laughes last!

by StoneHenge on

i thought u didnt want to waste ur time... if i didnt know u i would say u have a thing for me. loooooool. its ok! 

However, they did not treat the reasons that led to this condition. I believe that the conditions in the Palestinian territories are alway capable of explosion because the same circumstances are there.


AsteroidX

LOL

by AsteroidX on

"However, they did not treat the reasons that led to this condition."

Well go see a doctor. Soon.

But from just reading your comments, you seem to have a form of Tourettes shouting "Zionist" every second.


StoneHenge

obviously u are the Zionist!

by StoneHenge on

However, they did not treat the reasons that led to this condition. I believe that the conditions in the Palestinian territories are alway capable of explosion because the same circumstances are there.


StoneHenge

u must be the dumbest person on this planet!

by StoneHenge on

 Also, Iran interfered in Lebanon- caused a non governmental organization Hezbollah to take 2 Israeli prisoners.  THis was used to flatten Lebanon and caused a 15:1 death ratio.  Then they sent their forces in downtown Lebanon to fight the Sunnis.  So, Iran intereferes in other countries just like the US does. 

I love the way u put this out on the table....u speak as if Iran is the enemy of Lebanon??? when it has actually given support to its people from the Zionist occupation! U say 2 Israelis??? I SAY 10,000 AND MORE PRISONERS! WOMEN AND CHILDREN MORON! You say Iran supports Hizbollah.... yet u forget ur beloved FREE and LIBERAL AmeriKKKa is at the moment occupying two countries for a bunch of lies and some oil! Why havent u commented about this?becuase Amerikkka's occupation reflects on over 500,000 thousand dead and counting and soldiers of their in the 5,000 and more....+ lets not forget the orchestrates 9/11 which was done thanks t ur friend bush! The more I read ur replies the more u sound like a mossad agent and less like an IRanian!

 

 In 20 years from now, when some secular ruler forces Iranian women to take off their veils, forces mosques to close their doors and imprisons any kid with a beard, and puts obscene billboards up on the streets, some folks will be thinking why Saudi Arabia is still Islamic and Iran is secular: One answer: YOU know your limits and Don't F_ _ _ with the strongest country when you don't even have one nuclear bomb...,,,this is reality- have you asked yourself what keeps US from nuking IRAN? Do you think the US is afraid of its "image"?  US doesn't give a hoot about its image, if it is in its best interest it will do it, even if half od the world population dies! 

But EXCUSE ME this is happening in the land of the free and the brave, as well as in free Europa (look at france)! Is this what u want for Iran? Let me explain something to u 4 u sound like a kid who needs educating!!! U are right Amerikkka has Nukes but they are too scared to use them let alone attack Iran.... they will get a nice surprise there.... See this is why I label u as a mossad agent because u know nothing of Iran! Iran can handle isolation for 600 years without no ones interference, Iran is not Iraq! Even with IRaq Amerikkka is finding it difficult.

 U are seriously the most dumbest person on earth!

However, they did not treat the reasons that led to this condition. I believe that the conditions in the Palestinian territories are alway capable of explosion because the same circumstances are there.


Cost-of-Progress

A Zionist ate my lunch

by Cost-of-Progress on

I had brought it for lunch today and left it in the fridge. I will go hungry today cause a zionist ate my lunch.

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IRAN BEFORE ISLAM 

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YMJ

Again you are side stepping the issue..

by YMJ on

I dont know why you are trying to justify foreign interference of America in the region.

 No one in the region is happy about America's interference.

 But you say "thats just how it is", which is submissive to say the least.

Khamenei was completely impartial, the only time he said he supports the President was AFTER the elections.

"Everyone from Nateq Noori, Khatami, Rafsanjani, Rohani, Sanei, Ardebili --all the big pillars think Khamenie is no longer fit "

 - Can you prove this with a source? i know you cant, because that is not the case..

Rafsanjani recently said that everyon must listen to the Leader the situation will be fixed.

SO your absolutly wrong.


mannya2001

YMG....Well, they were doing just what Big countries do

by mannya2001 on

I mean, if the article is accurate and is proven to be 100 % true, then US is just doing what is in its best interest.  If it failed this time, they might try again in 4-5 years and will keep on doing it.  SO long as Iran keeps fighting US, the US will do what is best to get rid of IRANian government.

So maybe the prudent thing to do, is for someone instead of acting like a pre-programmed computer and saying "NO" everytime to relations wit US, maybe they need to step aside and let rational and pragmatic folks like Rafsanjani deal with these things.

Anyway, neither time nor most of countries are with IRAN. Most of the countries would not jeopardize their relations with US for the sake of Iran.   But the IRanian government has chosen to fight the US.  It should expect anything from US.

Also, Iran interfered in Lebanon- caused a non governmental organization Hezbollah to take 2 Israeli prisoners.  THis was used to flatten Lebanon and caused a 15:1 death ratio.  Then they sent their forces in downtown Lebanon to fight the Sunnis.  So, Iran intereferes in other countries just like the US does. 

In 20 years from now, when some secular ruler forces Iranian women to take off their veils, forces mosques to close their doors and imprisons any kid with a beard, and puts obscene billboards up on the streets, some folks will be thinking why Saudi Arabia is still Islamic and Iran is secular: One answer: YOU know your limits and Don't F_ _ _ with the strongest country when you don't even have one nuclear bomb...,,,this is reality- have you asked yourself what keeps US from nuking IRAN? Do you think the US is afraid of its "image"?  US doesn't give a hoot about its image, if it is in its best interest it will do it, even if half od the world population dies! 

So maybe, Khamenie needs to step aside because apparently he thinks he can fight the US.  He forgets that if US wants,it can nuke every city in IRAN. 

So obviously Mr Khamenie believes that the Americans are nice enough to let him live

The slogan "Marg bar diktator" started the 2nd day after election, when Khamenie took AN's side.  People meant Khamenie as diktator NOT AN because he was no longer IMPARTIAL.

Regardless, of what you say.  The great majority of people believe that he took AN's side on 2nd day of election.  Then in Friday Khutba, he said his views are "closer to AN" than " Rafsanjani."  Why the F_ _ _ was that statement made??  People clearly saw him as partisan.

He showed his partisanship during Khatami/Nateq Nouri election of 1997, but for several Friday Khutbas, he kept saying," Oh I back the resident"  because apparently Allah's representative on Earth made a mistake and chose Nateq while ALLAH made Khatami win.

Anyway, VF must stay.  Khamenie must go.  People no longer respect him.  He is toooo partisan.  He is now seen in the camp of weirdos and  extremists like Hamadani, Jannati & Yahoodiyol Asl Mesbah Yazdi.....the public hates these figures, but KHamenie with his actions has placed himself in the HAQQANI camp.  Everyone from Nateq Noori, Khatami, Rafsanjani, Rohani, Sanei, Ardebili --all the big pillars think Khamenie is no longer fit


YMJ

Again, you are sidestepping a known fact..$400 million....

by YMJ on

First of all the things you mentioned have nothing to do with the article which was posted.

This article is looking at the fact that America has an covert and overt campaign to destablize Iran through media campaign, articles, news outlets and operations within Iran.

What your' mentioning are not factual. 

"He should have allowed Majlese Khobregan to look into irregularities 1st, before jumping in "

- The Guardian council did look into it, they even randomly counted 10% of the votes. They also released every single polling stations numbers, this was never done before.

And the reality is he is the leader of the nation and if you actually listened to his speeches you would realize that he has kept his impartiality and warned the public about the aftermath of the elections because he clearly had information regarding the $400 million dollars to destablize the regime and to stain it.

You and many people like you are trying to side stepp this and many other facts that point the finger at America and the UK. People like yourself are trying to shift blame from America and the UK, which have always been after world domination through various methods. One of them being coup's and puppet governments.

Iranian nation , however, refuses to be a puppet regime and wants to maintain its independence.


mannya2001

YMG, if there was a plan....

by mannya2001 on

1.  Why did Khatami wothdraw and let Moussavi run? Afterall, Khatami propbably had better chances

2. After the numbers came out, and opposition did not accept, why did Khamenie insist they were right  He should have allowed Majlese Khobregan to look into irregularities 1st, before jumping in

These are just questions.  If you, like me,  support Velayate Faqih, you should understand that at this point Khamenie is no longer fit to be in that position.   He is sacrificing the system- VF- for his own benefit.  Even the Assembly of Experts were scared into criticizing him- even though it is the job of Assembly of Experts to do that.

The problem is that if this is tolerated, someone in the future might abuse the system to silence everyone and everything.

Velayate Faqih is far more important than Khamenie.  He should gracefully step down and allow a body or another person to lead.  He lost his "impartiality" in the public arena, he is way way too rigid and uncompromising---hame chiza hazere be bad bede

Also he is becoming more and more irrational--if USA is too hard, then he blames them for being VIOLENT, if USA is too soft, he blames then for SOFT WAR....BABA inke dighe nashood.

He accepted to allow Iran to speak with US when Abdul Aziz Al Hakim said that doing so would help IRAQIS.  But, so far for Iranian people, he doesn't think it is beneficial to speak to USA.

Khamenie- waghe3an, heybatesha az dast dad....It became evident that like WORLD ARROGANCE, Khamenie himself has become Arrogant--hazer neest aghab neshini koned baraye meslahate nezam

 


YMJ

Its the upper Tehranis and some sector of the middle class.

by YMJ on

First of all; its great to see how the 'so called iranians' which are actually zionists who are ACTING like Iranians attacking me.

Its GREAT, I enjoy it. Because it means im speaking truth, especially when the Zionists who are trying to portray themselves as Iranians get upset.

 "Media does not have much effect on smart educated people, as seen in Iran today."

 - Says who? You? Or case studies which have proven that media has a huge effect on perception. Also the intellectual sector of society are between 5-10% of the society and not all are supporter of the green movement.

 "IRI's has all the tools of propaganda, torture and the guns, but
it can NOT stop people from getting the real news from ALL sources ,
and it can not stop them from sending the real news. Off course
propaganda has major effects on the uneducated and brainwashed
Islamists (Kafan-pooshan) , Basi, Thugs, Pasdaran, etc. "

 - PURE and utter rhetoric and sensationalism. This whole site is filled with people who are engaging in rhetoric and sensationalism.

 "You are the one engaged in sensationalism and conspiracy
theories in this post"

- "conspiracy theory" is what the American government pushes whenever someone brings the truth. Are you some sort of US government employee?

 Because the facts are clear, America has allocated over 400 million dollars to overthrow the Iranian government.

You and others try to hide this FACT and argue as if the life of the ZIONIST REGIME depends on it.

"you keep mentioning this as if people in Iran are
dumb"

- i have not said this, you are clearly lying or dont know how to read.

 "can't decide for themselves what is real and what is
manufactured news"

- clearly not. Especially when the sector of society which is following the green movement is getting their information solely from Iran's enemies of UK and America. (BBC Farsi and CIA funded VOA) 

 


IranFirst

So What

by IranFirst on

Media does not have much effect on smart educated people, as seen in Iran
today. IRI's has all the tools of propaganda, torture and the guns, but
it can NOT stop people from getting the real news from ALL sources ,
and it can not stop them from sending the real news. Off course
propaganda has major effects on the uneducated and brainwashed
Islamists (Kafan-pooshan) , Basi, Thugs, Pasdaran, etc.

The demonstrations are not limited to the upper class (see all the
video's from south Tehran, etc. 1953 Iran and today's Iran,are not
comparable. You are the one engaged in sensationalism and conspiracy
theories in this post. So what there are couple of radios which
broadcast to Iran, you keep mentioning this as if people in Iran are
dumb and can't decide for themselves what is real and what is
manufactured news. People in Iran are not children they don't need a
Velayat-e faghi to decide for them, they can think much better than any
Mullah or IRI.

Let's see you are insinuating that the green movement is foreign
sponsored and you claim to represent a "strong" Iran. You sound like a
another poster on this board His alias was "Gholam-e IRI" :-)


Faramarz_Fateh

YMJ which hole did you come out of ?

by Faramarz_Fateh on

This is probably your ID #17

Give us a clue....we'll find out at least 3 of your other IDs with a few more posts.

By the way, my Jewish neighbor is looking for a maid or a house boy.  Are you available? 


mannya2001

money was raised then diverted to lebanon

by mannya2001 on

they raised the money, diverted close to $320 million to Assure that Harriri and his allies win the Lebanese election in April 2009.

- my sources


YMJ

BBC Farsi, VOA and much much more...propaganda channels

by YMJ on

Are you denying that MEDIA has no effect on masses? That is ignorant to say the LEAST.

The sector of society (which is the upper-elitist sector) are the ones who watch Satellite television which carries BBC Farsi (which was created JUST prior to the elections, clearly to sow discord) VOA (which is funded by the CIA to undermine the Iranian government) and many other propaganda channels.

You are engaging in sensationalism rather then an intellectual understanding of the political situation, which is reminecent of the 1953 overthrow of Mohammad Mossadeq by the CIA in operation Ajax. There are uniersity professors who are calling this 400 million and the covert operationt they have engaged in as 'Operation Ajax 2'.

 BBC farsi was created to stirr trouble after the elections and VOA is funded by the CIA. These are known facts, im surprised you are Iranian and dont know this. It's common knowledge amongs real Iranian intellectuals.

 "the idiot left and islamist"

 - you sound like a zionist, not an Iranian. Its clear to true Iranians who is who and who really wants the INDEPENDENCE of their nation.

The Zionist regime, UK and America do not want a strong independent IR Iran.

 


IranFirst

Article dated June 2008

by IranFirst on

So with your "logic" US spent only $400 millions, waited a year (till June 2009) and suddenly it paid off and millions of Iranians were brainwashed and came out to protest ?!  :-)

These are the most educated people in Iran, they are not idiot Islamists who are not allowed to think and kill (or are killed) like sheep. The idiot left and Islamists wish to brand  anyone who wants freedom in Iran , as US sponsered.


AsteroidX

LOL

by AsteroidX on

Ofcourse IRI does not meddle in other countries affairs, do they?  ... a bunch of angelic Mullahs.

US/Israel have been hard at work to undermine Iran in any way possible

No dear, IRI does that itself. Wakey wakey ....


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Freedom & Democracy

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

Beats repression and dictatorship aka IRR ! Anyway I forgot to welcome you IMF. Don't forget to make the donation to IC. Heh heh hee


peace45

Better than military attack ...

by peace45 on

If it's true, Good for Bush,....and people thougth he would attack Iran.


default

Indeed true!

by IranMilitaryForum.net on

US/Israel have been hard at work to undermine Iran in any way possible to push their geopolitical agenda under the same old slogans , that is, Freedom and Democracy.