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I agree! long live free & independent Iran!

Yours truy!

here is what Khatami signed on

In September 2005 U.N. Summit, the IAEA Board voted on resolution GOV/2005/77, which found Iran in noncompliance with its safeguards agreement.

Specifically, the Board found that “Iran’s many failures and breaches of its obligations to comply with its NPT Safeguards Agreement, as detailed in GOV/2003/75, constitute noncompliance in the context of Article XII.C of the Agency’s Statute.

//www.iaea.org/Publications/Documents/Board/2003/gov2003-69.pdf

//www.iaea.org/Publications/Documents/Board/2003/gov2003-75.pdf

This eventually led to more sanction against Iran. A gift from our beloved reformists to Iran.

Q,

If Khatami's administration wouldn't opt for the additional protocol and agreeing to an unlimited freeze duration for confidence building, then the actions of Ahmadinejad wouldn't be viewed as illegal to the uninformed and be used as propaganda against Iran.

Nothing has been more instrumental to the succession of hardline foreign policies of Ahmadinejad than the short comings of reformists in Iran. In simple words; If reformists didn't screw up, there wouldn't be an Ahmadinejad. Now you want another shot at this?

I am horrified at the idea to see another inept reformist administration in Iran who will not shy of dropping their pants to please world powers.

Khatamis smiles and his flirtings with European leaders for his " talk among civilization"  did not benefit Iran's national interests whatsoever. The threats against Iranian nuclear facilties started during Khatami era when there was talk of using nuclear tipped warheads against Iranian facilities. have you forgot?

And how did reformists react to it?

By sending a letter to Bush and begging to negotiate on anything the yankee desire only to get the cold sholder and mocked on international stage by Dick Cheni, Bush himself and other neocons. Is this the kind of respectable image that Iranians want their government to project on the international stage? 

Ahmadinejad hardline policies has and will payoff. I rather not be invited to the heads of states dinner parties than to be taken as the fool in the crowd who sold the rights of his nation.

Shifteh, he's right on the nuclear issue

No Fear is right on this one. What you wrote about Iran having "hidden" its facilities and being forced to reveal them after the leak by MEK is a convinient Western-concocted story.

US and Western Europe oft repeat that Iran "hid" its facilities from the world, but you cannot find a single IAEA condemnation about this. It's in neither side's interest to tell the truth so they wont.

The truth is that Iran did not have to reveal any facilities until Uranium introduction. So the Natanz facility did not have to be revlealed, Bush administration just claimed (and the media repeated) that this was some kind of "violation" but it wasn't.

Later the Khatami administration signed the additional protocol and said that out of good will it will shut down enrichment and follow the additional protocol until Majlis ratification.

The west promptly blamed Iran for violations of AP, even though it was not ratified, and Iran got no benefit for it. In no small manner this contributed to Ahmadinejad winning defeating the reformists. Later Iran dropped the voluntary enacting of AP and thus it went in effect back to the original NPT agreement. But the west continues to pretend that the AP should be in effect. All the violations that American administrations are claiming are mostly bogus, but the few ones that violate IAEA safety protocols are from the additional protocols, which Iran has not ratified.

The fact that Iran went so far as to sign and voluntarily adopt the AP is a source of embarrassment to Ahmadinejad administration who successfully argued this was a mistake for Iran. At the same time, the West and US do not want to admit they mishandled this opportunity and destroyed chances for peace, while at the same time not wanting to give any credit to Iran for trying. So, they, too, don't mention it and mislead the public into thinking Iran is subject to AP violations.

Please read this:
//www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica...

Mehrdad

:))  I am familiar with that expression! 

Thank you for your reply.  What you say makes sense.  But not enough to move me to respect Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.  He shames and disgusts me as an Iranian and as a human being.

Peace, Mehrdad. Thanks for taking the trouble to comment.

Can we please be reasonable here ...

You said;

First of all, Iran did not file any reports about its nuclear activities to which it has always had a right for several years.  It wasn't until information about Iran's nuclear facilities leaked by others that Iran admitted to having built new facilities.  The information was supplied incrementally and haphazardly as you know, all of which increased doubt and decreased credibility about Iran's intentions. "

Iran has Not done anything illegal. Based on IAEA rules and regulations, it is not necessary for a member state to declare its facility until 6 months before injecting centrifuses with gas. The above statement by you has been repeated by FOX news over and over and it is more propaganda and NOT a smoking gun which points to Iran's illegal nuclear activities. The truth is, IRAN is NOT doing anything illegal.

" they ( IR ) realized that in order to get Iranians behind themselves, they started a 24/7 campaign on IRIB and all media outlets and schools,..Hence the "Energy-e hastehee hagh-e mossalam-e maast" slogan."

So? whats wrong with that?  Isn't  "Energy-e hastehee hagh-e mossalam-e maast"  a true statement?  I can't see where you are going with this. Do you mean that IR days were numbered and they found a reason to get the people behind them? 

"In my humble opinion, the whole cat and mouse game over the nuclear issue, and even the turndown of Obama's olive branch all have been measures to deflect attention from Iran's atrocious human rights record and what it is doing to its own people inside. "

Let me burst your bubble. No government outside of Iran gives a rats ass about human rights records in Iran or any other part of the world. Correct me if i am wrong, but isn't "human rights" been reduced down to a propaganda tool to exert pressure on countries that are not aligned with US foreign policies?  We sure don't hear about human right violations in Saudi arabia, do we?

Now , don't get me wrong. I am all about human rights and all,  but don't you think that IR could easily round up a couple of thousand green prisoners and execute them over night like it did during Mousavi era, without anyone blinking. Why do they have to defend nuclear rights for this?  Heck, they can execute just two green supporters and the whole issue would be over. Why take the country to the brink of war to hide human right violations? Hide it from who?

I am trying to tell you that " Human Rights" which you claim is the only reason that IR is diverting attention, does not play a significant political role internally or internationally. You are asking the wrong question, and the answer is not human right.

You know whats the most important issue in the world right now?

ENERGY and who will have access to it.

You and some others like you are saying IRAN should be punished and prevented access to nuclear energy because it has a poor record of human rights. The western contries who have a monopoly over this market can't find a reason, and you are giving them one. BRAVO.

"I believe there are at least segments inside the Islamic Republic of Iran which are desperate for an attack on Iran.I believe Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to belong to that segment of the Iranian ruling class.  I think all that he does is to encourage that attack, and what is happening with the nuclear plan, sanctions, and Iran's increasing isolation, are calculated steps to bring on a war."

On another thread , i had a discussion with a poster who claimed that Iraq attacked Iran because khomeini provoked iraq to do so. This is despite the UN resolution which declares iraq as the aggressor of that war. An iranian blaming IRAN for the imposed war by Iraq !

Your claim is unfounded. Its not even a rational observation. If Ahmadinejad wants to provoke an attack, it could easily do so by now. Just because Ahmadinejad is a hardliner , it does not mean he is a warmonger.  If our president comes out and says that if Israel attacks iran, we will distroy it along with all US bases in the middle east and will creat such havoc that the worlds economy would come to a halt, it does not mean that we have a death wish. Its just trying to remind the world of the consequences of such an attack.

So far, this hardline approach has been a brilliant political move which thwarted an attack by Israel or US during the bush era.

Ms. Ansari,

Ahmadinejad will be gone in less than three years. But preventing Iran to peaceful nuclear technology will have a long lasting affect on Iran. Support Iran's right to peaceful nuclear energy as best as you can. Don't fall in to the trap of denying Iran's absolute right because of its messenger which you disagree with.

Iran is bigger than all of us combined.

Shifteh:

You and I actually have lot in agreement then otherwise so I am not going to bore you to go down the list. Where I don't agree with you is the issue of human rights and nuclear issue and how the West views and reacts to those issues. I am of the belief that this regime (IRI) is using the nuclear issue as a tool for the rallying and gathering support at home to hide and shut the opposition regarding its human rights record, freedom and democracy essentially take the wind out of the opposition sails. Unfortunately, the West insistence in its [mostly] illogical and definitely double standard stand against Iran, gives much wind in the regime sails specially by threats of war or even sanction.

We all saw mostly muted response/reaction of the West during the last (s)election in June when the West had ample opportunity to voice against the brutal force that was deployed by the regime and they decided to stay out of it. They also know well that any thread of war works in the IRI regime benefit and yet they keep it up.

So, it is the story of "ghasame hazeret abass ro bavar konim ya dome khors ro"

Mehrdad

P.S. I hope you are familiar with the Persian saying above

Mehrdad

I don't know how closely you follow Iran's news, so I hope I don't bore you by reminding us of something important that happened when the issue of Iran's nuclear program first came out. 

First of all, Iran did not file any reports about its nuclear activities to which it has always had a right for several years.  It wasn't until information about Iran's nuclear facilities leaked by others that Iran admitted to having built new facilities.  The information was supplied incrementally and haphazardly as you know, all of which increased doubt and decreased credibility about Iran's intentions.

Secondly, something very important happened.  When IRI first started its entanglement with IAEA, they realized that in order to get Iranians behind themselves, they had to do a lot homework at home.  They started a 24/7 campaign on IRIB and all media outlets and schools, telling Iranians that the big bad West wants to take away our cherished and expensive treasure, and we must all band together to fight them.  Hence the "Energy-e hastehee hagh-e mossalam-e maast" slogan.

But a very important factor in this decision was what a couple of IRI authorities actually said out loud, while still in the initial panic stages about what to do.  Both Ali Larijani, who became the chief negotiator, and Mohsen Rezaee said separately the nucleus of what has moved the IRI to act as they have over the past several years.  This is what I would like to remind you of right now.

Nobody knows better than IRI authorities where their Achilles heel is in ruling Iran--human rights.  They might be able to fit into any covenant and treaty, bow a little and stand tall a little, give or take, and belong to the international community.  Where they will not, they cannot fit, they cannot afford, is anything that has to do with human rights.  From forced clothing to loss of private domain, from selections for jobs and education to censorship and torture, Islamic Republic of Iran is centuries away from decent standards of human rights.  The government is incapable of changing the fundamentals of Islam upon which it has built itself.  It is incapable of escaping Qisas and Sharia law, Hejab and forced religion.  IRI knows fully well that to give in to pressure for equal rights for women and minorities and any international covenants of human rights, it would have to die first.

Now back to what it was Rezaee and Larijani said separately at the beginning of the nuclear debacle.  They said that IRI has to be careful in bowing to the West or compromising over the nuclear issue, because once you accept one set of pressure about something, you will have to accept another and the next item on the agenda of West would be human rights in Iran.  

In my humble opinion, the whole cat and mouse game over the nuclear issue, and even the turndown of Obama's olive branch all have been measures to deflect attention from Iran's atrocious human rights record and what it is doing to its own people inside.

The nuclear issue is important and Iran's rights are respected within the issue's limits of significance.  But Islamic Republic of Iran has a lot dirtier laundry than its hidden nuclear facilities and whether or not it is pursuing a bomb.  

Islamic Republic is desperate not to be invited to join the international community and to end its carefully planned self isolation.  It is throwing fits and creating distractions and diversions through its nuclear program, Holocaust, Israel, Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan, you name it, anything that would keep Iran isolated so as not to have to answer legitimate questions about the way it is treating its people.

I believe there are at least segments inside the Islamic Republic of Iran which are desperate for an attack on Iran.  They have done nothing for several years to bring on that attack, because they think that another war would distract the nation again and legitimize Iran's returning to a state of complete isolation from the rest of the world.  

I believe Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to belong to that segment of the Iranian ruling class.  I think all that he does is to encourage that attack, and what is happening with the nuclear plan, sanctions, and Iran's increasing isolation, are calculated steps to bring on a war.

There is nothing to feel proud or stand tall about here my friend.  This is my humble opinion.

how true

indeed, iri's messenger and those who promote him are irrelevant.

Shame..

Shame on those who undermine and discredit Iran's rights by ignoring the messege and focusing on the messenger.

Isn't this exactly what the zionist are doing?  Divert all attention on Ahmadinejad himself, so the main issue would be lost?

Iran's rights should be guarded and defended at all times and at any cost. The messenger is irrelevent .  You guys are nuts if you still consider yourself Iranians by undermining Iran's lawful and legal right to nuclear energy.

Bavafa

We should avoid being bullied by being a strong economy and democracy and being a peaceful nation and not by being a bully ourselves and an isolationist. AN is not doing or saying anything to the west or the world that is in the benefit of Iran and Iranians. Do not for one minute fall for his double standard and hypocricy. This is just a common front that the dictators use to gain support and to deflect from own crimes.

I give no credit to the words of a thief and a murderer who questions other's morality!

 Sign and Distribute the Iranian Solidarity Declaration:  //www.ipetitions.com/petition/iransecula

Shifteh

You will not get an argument from me regarding AN and/or IRI for that matter criminal activity and misdeed towards Iran and Iranians. But I don't subscribe to the idea of bowing and I am going to call it "slaving" to the West just because we have a bully at home or blaming Iran for stand up for its lawful rights. So, my statement was and is not in support of AN, but the message that we must not allow Iran to be bullied. We are already being bullied at home and if the West pulls its nose out, hopefully people will unite against this monster regime and get ride of it once and for all.

Respectfully

Mehrdad

Mehrdad

The Iranian nuclear program and all the hoopla over it is nothing, and has never been anything, but a tool to deflect attention from IRI's internal problems.

I see no source of pride in any activity which would push Iran into isolation and bring threats and actualities of sanctions and bombs to our nation.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and his masters are nothing but a bunch of criminals with not a good thought or deed about Iran's best interests.

While I am steadfast

While I am steadfast against AN when it comes to internal policies and handling of the opposition in Iran, his standing up to the [bullies] West is very logical and admirable.

Mehrdad