'Israel convinces US with Credible military plan on Iran'
JPost / YAAKOV KATZ
18-Jul-2010 (42 comments)

Have Israel’s efforts to convince the US to threaten Iran with a credible military option paid off? According to recent media reports, the answer might be yes.

Since the US pushed a fourth round of sanctions against Iran through the UN Security Council last month, Jerusalem has increased diplomatic efforts to convince the White House that for the sanctions to work, a credible military option needs to be on the table to scare Iran to reconsider its pursuit of a nuclear weapon.

An indication that this might have happened came in the latest issue of Time magazine, in an article titled “An Attack on Iran: Back on the Table.”

Written by Joe Klein, the article claims that in recent months, the US military’s Central Command has made significant progress in planning targeted air strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities, some of which were deemed impossible to penetrate just two years ago.

According to the report, the progress was made possible by the “vastly improved human-intelligence operations in the region.”

Israel has reportedly been “brought into the planning process.”

Israel’s current strategy regarding Iran is to cooperate with the White House and at the same time to continue preparing its own independent military option. This dates back to the beginning of Barack Obama’s term as president in January 2009, when Israel warned against engaging the Iranians but eventually acceded to the new US policy, albeit while de... >>>

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Onlyiran

Well Abarmard, I am EXTREMELY pleased

by Onlyiran on

that the IRI has managed to send back the Iranian society back at least 8 decades in cmparison with the rest of the world.  And that is 31 years after a bloody revolution. :-))

But, I guess we should be proud of the fact that no one will "take advantage of us".  It's worth the backwardness.   


Abarmard

OnlyIran got something correct

by Abarmard on

We should never let anyone taking advantage of us. That message must come clear. 

Iranian society is more like the US in the 30's . From prohibitionists to lack of women rights and African American crimes (also Technology)... It didn't take US 300 years but definitely some decades with a peaceful landscape for government. Don't mistake for a moment that if there was a threat of attack in US soil, US would have not grant its citizens those rights...then.

It's an important point. Thanks OnlyIran.


Abarmard

In short

by Abarmard on

Let me try to see if this is possible, short and sweet. This topic is important enough to be an essay.

Reform comes from people not governments. Target bottlenecks in societies and promote enhancing their understandings of simple points, rights. once the question is mentioned, the taboo of norm is broken.

Reforms are not revolutions. They are not to revolve one class over another, so they are mild and peaceful in nature. They focus on little things that may have many derivatives. Sudden changes in society is not pro reform because it causes uncertainties. Reforms are not based on one generational goals but long term social changes from the core.

What most people witnesses during reformist "government", which came as a result of social changes, was simple concepts, such as equality under the law for all the members of the society/government.  Incredible idea to fight for. 

The most important topic in the Islamic Republic Majlis was monitoring different levels of officials. The concept that one could bring a president to court of law became understood. 

The system today is taking step back but since reforms targets the core of social traditional "backwardness", it is not capable of controlling the system freely as it did before the election (Interestingly enough I have witnessed some media mentioning how Iran was freer and enjoyed democracy in the region BEFORE THE ELECTION, same papers never said this before the election!). Ultimately reformists become revolutionaries by default if the system throws them out of the scene. Remember that without the initial reformist movement, Iran could have not have a voice to let the world know, they are people that think modern.

For me landscape is very important to develop a free system. It is exactly this concept that some countries worry about Iran. And some unknowingly repeat after them that Iran needs to be pressured and cornered. 

Put your biases aside and think what allowed a system that most recognize as a dictatorial, had a happy, youthful, energetic, and free election (relatively speaking). Then think why is it important for a system to let the world see it as free along with people's participation?

The answer to the first part of above is system security. Landscape for freedom is peace and certainty. As an Iranian one must have concluded by now that the West is not for a powerful and free Iran. It will not serve its purpose, therefore the landscape will not be there. It is then our duty to push for a better landscape. I have been promoting this simple concept for many years now and most people seem to agree. NIAC is promoting policies that allows such landscape to form and be sustainable so Iranians can form a freer society. Traditionally civilizations begin with military development, then trade, thoughts, technologies, and then freedom and democracy. This is the core of foreign interventions, to allow Iran participate in international trade freely. Secure its routes so people in Iran form a collective and ask for their rightful rights.

I will never be convinced that if this regime goes the next will be nice. Free. Democratic. Socially we will be able to drink, maybe, dance, and so and so. But in the long run people will get tired of surface and want substance. Similar to Shah's era. Then we are back to here, reforms. 

The second part of the question why the regime wants to prove to all that it has support, gives room to say reform is possible. Do you understand why?

I jumped to conclusion to make this short but I hope that the message comes through. To rap up the reform concept:

- Reforms comes from the people. If the bad laws are applied to all equally is better than if good laws are applied to some. Lawful societies are pro reform. Change based on what we have as a system. Modify the shortcoming rather than change it totally.

-Landscape of democracy is hard to come in Iran because of its location. The rich energy resources of Iran and neighbors makes Iran a target to be put down. Governments that promote Iranian benefit will not be tolerated by the powerful countries. (Recently I read about the interest of Armenia in Iran. Also Tajikistan and Kazakhstan. Think if Iran can sustain its current position...These countries see Iran closer to them than Russian or Western or Arabs...Iran got a lot of assets that West wants..)

-To promote a freedom and democracy landscape, Iranians from all over must think about the Iranians, since reform comes from the people it is based on people. What makes people live better makes reforms stronger.

-The Islamic Republic has shown responsiveness to world's eyes. The level might vary but certainly it's not Saddam like, nor N.Korean. Iran is an authoritarian system but not established. It's changing yearly. The shape of the system is not set. That's the good news.

 


Onlyiran

Cyclicforward and Amir - I would give you Abarmard's response

by Onlyiran on

since I've heard it so much.  Here it is:

you have to look at the whole picture.  Little by little, like African Americans who got their rights back after 300 years.  we should not let foreigners take advantage of us and have Zionists and Americans attack Iran.  If you say things like that, like freedom and such, they will attack.  just look at the big picture...blah, blah, blah... 

 

Sorry Abarmard, couldn't help it. 


cyclicforward

Abarmard

by cyclicforward on

I am also very much interested to hear your ideas about the reform.


AMIR1973

Abarmard: "Reforming" the IRI

by AMIR1973 on

Now would you like to talk about reforms?

Yes please, I would like to hear from you about how, why, and when  the IRI will be "reformed"? (Well, IRI's "reform" leaders were in power from 1981-2005, so maybe it already is "reformed"?). I look forward to hearing from you about this. Thank you.


Abarmard

Amir

by Abarmard on

The point that Iranians will rush on streets to overthrow once Iran is bombed lacks understandings about social behavior, not to mention Iranian mentality.

Now would you like to talk about reforms?


Onlyiran

What's funny about Shah Gholam is

by Onlyiran on

that he always decries the "Zionist propaganda" and says that it's all an attempt to make the IRI look bad, but won't hesitate a minute to post garbage written in the Israeli propaganda machine.

What a clown! 


mahmoudg

The world needs to be united against the IRI

by mahmoudg on

and surgical attacks are a necessary evil to overthrow this regome.


AMIR1973

Abarmard

by AMIR1973 on

If you think that people will come on street as soon as the country is bombed to overthrow the system consider this, you have a higher chance in winning a lottery. Go buy one today.

Even more farfetched than winning the lottery is the notion that the IRI can be "reformed" in any substantive way. But, you are welcome to keep selling those "alaki" IRI "reform" lottery tickets as long as you like. After all, this is a free country.


Abarmard

Cyclicforward

by Abarmard on

If you think that people will come on street as soon as the country is bombed to overthrow the system consider this, you have a higher chance in winning a lottery. Go buy one today.


cyclicforward

IRI days numbered

by cyclicforward on

I would worry if I were you/