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12-Jul-2011 (41 comments)
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Soosan Khanoom

Hooshang

by Soosan Khanoom on

Well...... if they had captured Russian Embassy I would call them right-wing students and that would equally be wrong . What they did WAS WRONG and as I said it was one of the factors that lead to War. The fact that they can do such a thing and they can now laugh about it without even being sorry is Unbelievable.  

By the way , many of those so called Islamic justices after revolution came out straight  from Marxists bull shits that got mixed with revolution ...... Still whatever it was it was better than Russian Revolution ...    

Wow, some nerve to hit ........ 


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by Hooshang Tarreh-Gol on

" all of those students who are now acting as reformists should be held
accountable for destroying our country by their leftist ideology"

But that's too easy, they should be held in an Inquisition type of 'court' and when proven guilty, they shall be burned to death, so no one after them would dare to even think of 'leftist ideologies."Or may be we could just stone them to death for their Lefty thoughts?

Now, that's what I would call proper Islamic Justice.

On a serious note, since when taking defensless diplomats,  burning another country's flag and insulting their national symbols has become "Leftist?" Recall Comrade Ho Chi Min's respect for American Constitution and the American Revolution.


Soosan Khanoom

You are perhaps right dear Amir

by Soosan Khanoom on

But I still think initially they wanted for Saddam to win it and they seriously thought that he will but once they were proven wrong the plan changed. 

I also blame IRI for the hostage situation which for sure was another factor leading to the war ..... I think all of those students who are now acting as reformists should be held accountable for destroying our country by their leftist ideology .... As you know, at first, Khomeni was not aware of their intentions but once they got things going he supported them .... I always wondered where those students got their idea from ?  I think there were more hands behind the curtain other than just those students acting crazy !! 

 


AMIR1973

Soosan jan,

by AMIR1973 on

I don't support the Reagan administration's tilt in favor of Saddam during the war. The true picture is more complex, though, than 100% support for Iraq. For one thing, the U.S. also supplied weapons to Iran through Iran- Contra. Moreover, the U.S.'s close ally Israel also supplied weapons to Iran in the early 1980s and destroyed Iraq's nuclear reactor at Osirak. U.S. policy wasn't to have Saddam win the war. It was to have both sides lose (Henry Kissinger said something along those very lines). I would also point out that the USSR signed a "friendship treaty" with  Iraq back in 1972 and supplied most of Iraq's tanks and airplanes. (The Iraqis mostly had MIG aircraft and T72 and other Soviet tanks). In fact, it was Iran who had more U.S.-made aircraft from the time of the Shah. Of course, none of this excuses anyone's responsibility, not Saddam, Khomeini, the West or the East. But the IRI had at least a chance to try and make peace in 1982 -- but they refused to do so until 1988. It was during those years when most of the death and destruction occurred.


Soosan Khanoom

Amir jan...

by Soosan Khanoom on

I agree IRi is also responsible for the last couple of years of this war ..... and those in charge should be brought to justice ....

Also U.S and its allied were 100 percent behind this war more than any other countries  .. Reagan , Bush Senior, and Ramsfield are no stranger to Iran-Iraq war ......

Let us hope that the history won't be repeated .....

February, 1982. Despite objections from congress, President Reagan removes Iraq from its list of known terrorist countries. 

hmmmm ... sounds like a familiar move now  .... MEK ? perhaps !!!! 


AMIR1973

Dear Soosan,

by AMIR1973 on

Yes, Saddam committed crimes against Iranians by using chemical weapons and against his own people. Yes, he received help with his chemical weapons programs from Western countries, especially Germany -- which has been one of the IRI's biggest trading partners -- I suppose the help he got from Russia, Eastern Europe, China, North Korea, Arab countries, Argentina, Brazil (who supplied rockets to him), etc doesn't count, since the U.S. is the Great Satan and greatest evil in the world and those countries aren't. But please let's not forget that Khomeini bore the heaviest responsibility for refusing to make peace in the final six years of the war, after Khorramshahr was liberated. Why is the name of the individual most responsible for the prolongation of the war not mentioned? Are we always to have our attention diverted from the responsibility of the IRI's leaders towards that of the "foreign devils"?


Soosan Khanoom

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by Soosan Khanoom on

No matter how do you want to argue about the reasons behind the war, one thing remains the fact ...... SADDAM USED CHEMICAL WEAPONS ......

One day those who gave Sadam the green light to use it as well as to have it at first place are going to be brought to the court of law ..... The Western countries are going to reap what they sow .... with no doubt ... cause there is absolutely no excuse for using chemical weapon 

Now instead of fighting here with each other let us all solute the brave young men ( Sepahi , Basigi , Arteshi ) who died during the Iran-Iraq war ..... 

let us separate the young innocent kids of war from the morons who we are wrongfully walking  in their shoes and acting like a thug in the streets of Iran.   There are many who survived the war but are instead jailed by IRI today .... 


AMIR1973

Are we supposed to forget that animal Khomeini prolonged the war

by AMIR1973 on

Are we supposed to forget that Khomeini called the war a "blessing"? 

Are we supposed to forget that Khomeini prolonged the war because "Rah-e Qods az Karbala migozarad"?

Are we supposed to forget that Khomeini and his followers stated that their goal was to "liberate" Karbala, spread their Islamic revolution into Iraq, and that nothing short of replacing the Iraqi regime with an "Islamic government" would allow them to accept peace with Iraq?

Are we supposed to forget that Khomeini refused to end the war until 1988, when he finally agreed to "drink the poisoned cup" (to quote his own words)?

Are we supposed to forget that most of Saddam's tanks, guns, rockets, bombs, and warplanes came from Russia (formerly USSR), Eastern bloc countries, and France -- countries that the IRI either has good relations with or had until within the last few years?

Are we supposed to forget that China also helped supply Iraq's weapons programs and that China is now IRI's close partner?

Are we supposed to forget that Iraq also had missile technology derived from North Korea, the same regime that the IRI does?

The two biggest culprits for the millions of lives wasted during the war were Saddam (for starting the war) and Khomeini (for prolonging it and refusing to make peace until finally doing so in 1988). 

 


Roozbeh_Gilani

iranmilitaryforum:

by Roozbeh_Gilani on

The west was backing both Iran and saddam. They were playing two potential threats to their regional interests against each other. The ultimate price was of course paid by millions of ordinary iranian and Iraqis and of course kurds on both side per this disgraceful act of mass murder of civilians.

FYI, Islamist regime's bassij and revolutionary guards also committed numerous acts of mass murder of kurdish civilans to this date. Only, luckily for kurds,  they did not seem to have chemical weapons at their disposal.

Saddam was hanged for his crimes. Khomeini got away with it and died of old age. But we still have khamenei and many others around from that era, who will have to  answer back for their crimes one day, in people's tribunals. 

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."


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Here is the link

by IranMilitaryForum.net on

Chemical weapons employed by Saddam Hussein killed and injured numerous Iranians, and possibly Iraqis. According to Iraqi documents, assistance in developing chemical weapons was obtained from firms in many countries, including the United States, West Germany, the Netherlands, the United Kingdom, and France.[50]

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_warfare#Iran.E2.80.93Iraq_War

;-)


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Thanks to the US and European

by IranMilitaryForum.net on

countries that loaded Saddam Hussein, a Western stooge, with just about any kind of weapons including WMD that he barbarically used against Iran with the full consent of the West (to say the least). During the Iran/Iraq war, Iran was not permitted by the security council to even import 'gas masks' which were classified as 'weapons' in the UN security council for Iran.

It is precisely because of events such as the ones depicted in the videos that Iranian armed forces have been working hard to build a strong and viable national defence against the next enemy that dares to attack Iran.

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