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Nokar, mozakhraf nagoo

Nokar,

Mozakhraf nagoo. This is the context.

Ali writes: As tragic as it was, the execution of twentysome members of the Iranian officers, members of the Toodeh party, was inevidable.

Since the beginning of established military, treason has
been a crime punishable by death, by any state, anywhere in the world. Treason is defined as a violation of allegiance to one’s sovereign, or to one’s state, a breach
of faith and confidence entrusted by one’s government and the betrayal
of the allegiance that a person owes his sovereign or his country. The crime, and therefore the punishment, is much more severe, if the person is a member of the military.

A communist's first allegiance was to the Big Brother, the former Soviet Union, not to his homeland.

MK: Did Reza Khan make a coup and thus betray his sovereign (Ahmad Shah Qajar)? Does this mean that he and all the other officers who supported him committed treason and they all should be executed? Moreover, was Reza Khan accepting large funds from the British to carry out the coup, makes Reza Khan any different than the Tudeh officers collaborating with the USSR? If the Tudeh officers were khaen, should the exact same criteria make Reza Khan a khaen?

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The intention of my post was to show that according to Ali’s definition, Reza Khan committed REASON similar to what Tudeh Party did.  My friend Ali agrees with me.  This is significant, because Ali likes Reza Shah.

Ahmad Shah should be blamed for many things. Despite all his weaknesses, he did NOT sign the 1919 Agreement, which would have made Iran virtually a de jure colonial subject of the U.K. The supporters of the 1919 Agreement were Seuyyed Zia Tabatabaee and Vosugh al Dowleh.   Seyyed Zia Tabatabaee, became Prime Minister. Reza Khan dismissed him shortly. Seyyed Zia came back and became a top adviser to Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi. Zia was nokar of the UK and also closely connected to Islamist parties in the Middle East, including Fadaian Islam. Vosugh al Dowleh became a prominent adviser to Reza Shah. Reza Shah appointed Vosugh Minister of Finance in June 1926 and later Minister of Justice. Vosugh then became "elected" to Majles under Reza Shah. He then became a financial adviser to Reza Shah. In 1936, Reza Shah appointed Vosugh Chairman of the Iranian Academy of Culture.

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His Majesty had His own unique way of teaching the subject of democracy to His subjects........Don't you ungrateful bunch remember that He ordered that Ali Rezaei and other industrialists and financial moguls to become senators and so on........was it before or after  putting Vahabzadeh and some other industrialists and financial moguls in jail? :))

A word from this Nokar of UK - LOL

Ali Jaan

You can't hear a word of truth from the followers of biggest Charlatan in the recent history of our country, meaning Mossadegh-ol-saltaneh. They twist and turn the truth and are fearful of telling the full truth. Here are a few points to ponder:

The Military branch of the Tudeh party was the armed wing of this party. they had gone against their oath of allegiance to the king and country and more importanly they had a huge arsenal of weapons and explosives hidden in various locations and ready for the day they would receive the signal to launch an all out armed rebelion against the army and the Shah. Two of the Shah's bodygaurds were members of this organisation. So contrary to the cluless Moshiri and his equally, if not more, clueless cohort MK, these officers were not quite pacifist olive branch waving peace corp. The size and facilities of this organisation was so huge that even the Tudeh party grandees like KiaNouri were caught by surprise - as Babak Amir-Khosravi a former board memebr of the Tudeh party writes - see the link below: 

//iranshahr.org/?p=1039

By the way out of more than a thousand members only 27 were executed (due to their direct participations in planning a military uprising and the rest were pardonned and freed, many of them lauched lucrative businesses and highly pay jobs) after a short stay in prison.

One thing good about thecommies is that they are largely sensible enough to kow when they have to give up and when they need to be bought at teh right price.

Also what Mr Kazemzadeh is too timid to admit is that the coup of Reza Khan was against an incompetent and corrput Qajari ruler who was mostly out of the country, including at the time of the coup, and as Abbas Milani and other historians can tell you, he was in the direct pay of the British government, not to mention his grain hoarding habits, which caused huge fatalities in teh capital at the time of the draught. We are talking about the same king Mossadegh-ol-Salataneh used to praise. 

Tudeh supporters

From my own family experience......

Yes there were many tudei officers BUT also there was rations on few basics like:ghando-shekar ,rice,cookingoil&....in that time.

The Brigadier would come in and take handfuls of cadets' ID card

To bring them back the ration booklets ; Turning their name as tudei and with the party in ghale ministry would bring back a handful of coupons booklet; every body was happy with it until after mr.mossadegh's fall and their names coming out as Tudei supporters from that LIST!

I was told that by my father and uncles both 1st Lt.in the army and shahrbani.

Ofcourse none were harmed but were discharged.

Maziar

Dear Ali P

Dear Ali,

I see no difference between Reza Khan (and the Pahalvists) and Kianouri (and Tudeh Party) and those Tudeh supporters in the military. Pahlavists and Tudehists are very similar. Both were dictatorial (opposed to democracy), both opposed civil liberties. Both collaborated with foreign powers against the national interests of Iran. UK and USSR wanted to dominate Iran: Pahlavists and Tudehists served as their vehicles. Those who think it was perfectly fine to be nokar of USSR support Tudeh and those who think it was perfectly fine to be nokar of UK support the Pahlavi monarchy.

In my opinion, the officers involved in the Nojeh coup are very different. When they joined the armed forces, they had not taken oath to serve Khomeini; they had no moral allegiance to Khomeini. The revolution occurred after they had joined the armed forces. The Nojeh coup occurred on July 11, 1980. That is after the fraudulent vf constitution vote, after the hostage taking, and when the regime had lost claim to legitimacy and was ruling by force and after it was proven that Khomeini had lied to the people in Paris. When a ruling system lacks any form of legitimacy, and rules illegally, then no one has to abide by legitimate rules. In other words, when Khomeini’s rule was based on the rule of the jungle, all other forces also have the same right to use the rule of the jungle.

My 2 cents,

Masoud

Reza Savad Koohi

Is a joke!...No Iranian patriot ever takes his non-sense seriously . Shah was a vatan foroosh and his family are still thriving on stolen money from the Iranian treasury , yet they are missing the power that they used to have . Shah is the reason we are where we are ...

Dear Masoud

If Reza Khan's coup had failed, in all probabilities, he and his posse would have been executed.

"Khaen" is not necessarily a bad name. But whatever establishment you betray, it is only natural for the establishment to punish you ( and punish you severely, if you are a member of the military).

You remember the Nojeh coup? Those brave officers knew what would happen to them, if they failed.

They failed, and they paid with their lives.

That's just the nature of the beast.

Yours,

Ali P.

Dear Ali P

Ali jaan,

Did Reza Khan make a coup and thus betray his sovereign (Ahmad Shah Qajar)? Does this mean that he and all the other officers who supported him committed treason and they all should be executed? Moreover, was Reza Khan accepting large funds from the British to carry out the coup, makes Reza Khan any different than the Tudeh officers collaborating with the USSR? If the Tudeh officers were khaen, should the exact same criteria make Reza Khan a khaen?

Just asking?

Best,

Masoud

Iranian communist officers

As tragic as it was, the execution of twentysome members of the Iranian officers, members of the Toodeh party, was inevidable.

Since the beginning of established military, treason has
been a crime punishable by death, by any state, anywhere in the world. Treason is defined as a violation of allegiance to one’s sovereign, or to one’s state, a breach
of faith and confidence entrusted by one’s government and the betrayal
of the allegiance that a person owes his sovereign or his country. The crime, and therefore the punishment, is much more severe, if the person is a member of the military.

A communist's first allegiance was to the Big Brother, the former Soviet Union, not to his homeland.

This was a choice, made by many Iranian communist Army officers, who, once busted,many of them bravely, had to face their fate.

چشمش کور می‌خواست آلمانی‌ بلد نیست با آلمانا مصاحبه نکنه!

Everything is sacred