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sick and tired!

I am tired of you, JJ, censoring perfectly valid postings. you should give up this business of allowing comments on your site all together since you have failed at moderating them propertly and as a result have lost perfectly good visitors who would have contributed otherwise.
I had threatened before but did not follow up after noticed that you corrected your behavior. But now I see that you use your judgement to see what gets posted and what not again, on my perfectly proper comments, using some completely irrational framework. That is the Iranian style that I always despised and seems like is not easy to go without.
One can conclude that visitors that stay are the quiet ones who do not experience censorship or just don't care.
In future if I hear from someone that your site has improved in this area, maybe I will come back , otherwise I will correct myself with friends and associates next time the topic comes up.
so long hamshahri...

big lie: "Israel lobby is the best friend of Iran"

yea right. We will bomb you for your own good! Give up the comedy Zion.

Zion's zionist fantasies...

what really irks Zion is that Chomsky has been right in just about everything he has said, including his predictions of Iraq war and Israeli external aggressions and internal apartheid policy. Unlike what our Zionist uberlords want us to believe, these policies perpetuate more war and more violence not peace.

Another lie/fantasy is that a "small scale attack" will simply solve the problem and scare Iran off preventing a larger war.

This is really stupid and narrow minded. Of course any aggression will have to be responded to by Iran, it doesn't matter what kind of government Iran has islamic or secular.

To me, this shows that Zionists really don't understand other people. They are not willing to consider them human just like themselves. They think they can bully and scare people in the middle east for ever.

I think that time is coming to an end, and I am glad to be alive for it.

To Zion

Zion,

I do not give a flying “what have you” what I may or not may be in your book…

What you do not seem to appreciate is that on the Arab streets these groups have a lot more legitimacy than the state of Israel. In their eyes, Hizballah is fighting a just cause and happens to be the only group which has managed to give Israel a bloody nose.

You have grown up in the west and have a different view of how the world and in particular the ME should be. You can not know about the desperation and hopelessness of the youth in ME and have never really asked yourself why they are in this state.

Chomsky and others like him have asked these questions and have often found that the answer is in the US policy making with regards to the ME. I am sure you know about the 1953 Coup in Iran which replaced the democratically elected PM Mosadq , with Shah’s regime as organized by the CIA. At the time this was meant to be protecting the US and the UK interests in the region but what it ended up doing was to kill democracy in its infancy in Iran and hence stopping social, economical and political progress. It also saw the seed for the 1979 revolution.

There are other examples of this, the way that the regimes in the ME are propped up by the US whilst their people suffer in ignorance, poverty and despair is a questionable policy. This produced Alquaida but more importantly has given legitimacy to backward thinking of Muslim extremists.

So Chomsky is not deranged, he is asking questions which in turn makes you question your core beliefs.

With regards to an attack on Iran, any “small attack” will actually evoke an eventual “big attack”. Leaving aside how the Iranians might respond and what tricks they might have up their sleeves, the 1.2 Billion Muslims around the world will see this as just another attack on their brethren by or for Israel. And the US is not the power it used to be so it has to eventually look out for its own interests which could prove costly for Israel.

Great man

Great to have a few great thinkers who represent a democratic system. Long live free minded intellectuals.

To Zion

You are truly pushing the limits of our patience! You are coming on an Iranian website and promoting military attacks against Iran!! I don't know why the editor of IRANIAN.com is still tolerating your presence here!!

Plus, The apartheid State of Israel is NOT the ally of Iran, it has never been and it will never be. At least not as long as it is governed by fascist and terrorist ideology of "Zionism".

No

MKB,
the answer to both your questions, is no. I do not call all those who disagree with me deranged. Of course not. I do call Chomsky deranged because of his positions. It is pretty simple, really. He behaves as if he is criticizing the shortcomings of Israel compared to an ideal democracy. Fair enough. But then there are no states that are ideally democratic, and the entire political arena of a democratic state like Israel is witness to the constant challenge to improve it and close the gap to an ideal democracy. Chomsky, however, implies that this natural state of affairs about Israel or the US is nothing but pure `hypocrisy`. Even worse, he then goes and supports a fascist gang of criminals like Hizballah, as you can see. This is what is deranged. Of course, if like our `brothers` payam or Dariush here, you consider Hizballah to be a legitimate resistance movement worthy of support, I have no more reason to argue with you. For all practical purposes you also become a fascist thug in my book, deserving a different category of response all together.

`Do you really think it would benefit Israel in the LONG RUN if the US and/or Israel attacked Iran in any capacity?`

No. Of course not. It will not benefit anyone, that is why it should be avoided. For the same reason, if it becomes necessary to use a smaller scale attack to prevent a bigger one, especially to prevent a fatal nuclear level exchange, then unfortunately it has to be adopted. Remember, for the same reason.

Mehdi,
What do you want to hear? The Israeli lobby is acting amidst many many other lobby groups, from special interest groups to those of other states like the Turkish lobby, the Armenian lobby, the Arab lobby....
Unlike the case of most other lobby groups, it is due to the efforts of the Israeli lobby, among other factors, that the US is not in bed with the mullahs in Iran. It is not taking economical advantage of her present misery, as the Europeans, the Russians, the Arabs, the Japanese, the Indians, the Chinese have been doing all these years. You know this is what the other real powerful lobbies would love to see happen, don`t you? The oil lobby, the arms lobby... .
Whether you realize it or not, whether you like it or not, the Israel lobby is the only lobby which effectively has been the ally of the Iranian people all these years. Israel shares the natural national interests of Iran in the region, for geo-political as well as historical reasons. It also finds the Islamic regime in Iran to be its mortal enemy. Iranians inside and outside Iran who also wish for a free secular democratic Iran following her national interests are in the exact same position.

What do you prefer Mehdi? The oil lobby? the arms lobby? the Saudi Arabian lobby?... yes?

Zion: Say somethig about the criminal Israel Lobby

Can you anything about it? Anything :-) I know, it is painful, ha?

Chomsky is right

Here we go again, Zion, Bijan AM and the usual suspects (Zionists on a mission) are back..

Just because some one expresses an opinion which is contrary to yours ( and right) why are they deranged or threatening our freedom? Oh it because it might show Israel in a bad light or is not against Iran.

As I have said before you guys are not Iranians, even though you might have Iranian names and speak Farsi(except Zion), so you do not care what happens to the people of Iran regardless of what or who the regime in Iran is. To you guys Israel is the most important country, even more important than the US.

I do have a question for you guys though:

Do you really think it would benefit Israel in the LONG RUN if the US and/or Israel attacked Iran in any capacity?

I do not see how, but I would like to hear you views as you can not be as short sighted as all the necon morons like, Bill Kristol, Richard Pearl, Wolfowitz etc( who are all Jewish and Zionists) who brought us the Iraq mare

With All Due Respect Zion!

Brother Zion,

Allow me to be honest and truthful with you, as I am sure you would prefer it over tarof. Well, I don’t believe you have made a strong argument on why Chomsky is deranged. If anything, with all due respect, you have instead demonstrated all the characteristics of derangement (confusion and disorder), although I will not identify your behavior with extreme derangement (severe mental disorder and insanity), but I will have to say that you are quite confused regarding the role of Hezbollah and the reasons behind their existence.

Rather than despising and hating intellectuals like Chomsky and Finkenstein, why don’t you channel your energy and intelligence into trying to understand the pain and suffering of Palestinians and the Lebanese victims of Israeli state terrorism, which happens to legitimize Hezbollah as a national militia army (similar to the American militias fighting against the British colonizers). You also mentioned to our brother/sister Sadegh that Chomsky has always been against Zionism and against Israel. As a matter of fact, Chomsky and his family were Zionists during the 1930s and 40s. But they were against the formation of the state of Israel since they believed that Jews must live among all peoples of the world as brothers and sisters.

Also, in your message to the world, you went into the discussion on minorities such as Galileo and Darwin, and tried to equate yourself to these individuals, simply because you were outnumbered in the discussions on Israel. Well, unfortunately for you, Galileo and Darwin did not kill innocent Lebanese and Palestinian civilians, they did not demolish Palestinian homes. Darwin and Galileo did not install checkpoints on every Palestinian road, they did not bombard Lebanon with cluster bombs, they did not erect an 18 foot wall around the occupied territories, and they did not cut off water, electricity and food supplies to the Gaza Strip. These examples are not fit for your argument and I don’t know what other individuals you could prostitute to make your point. But I would suggest Pinochet, Saddam, Khomeini, Suharto, Batista, Sharon and other genocidal maniacs and “deranged” individuals, who were in fact in the “Minority” within their countries. I do not suppose you would want to identify yourself with such criminals. So why would you identify Galileo and Darwin with criminals?

Peace,
Payam

Waring! Heavy Dose Of Truth

Zion,
After reading the links you attached my respect for Chomsky doubled.
Thanks for the information.

//video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-809144920...

Zion

I am glad that we both at least agree on the fact the the whole world preferes that Israel nation just went away!
Now you couldn't be far from truth for the justification of this important development that comes around every time Jews get the chance to unite.
I do find it interesting that some Jews use this rationalization to stay in denial and harm themselvs in the long run.
Maybe you should start thinking in reality mode that not the whole world was against Galileo and Darwin. The Catholic Church was in the center of fighting with their ideas that discredited the scipture.
Why Joe Blow, hundreds of years ago had any problems with them? Go on any street of any city in the world today, except in Israel and the brain washed ones in US and you will see a different story.

Your reasoning for symbolic Abraham does not cut it either as Mohammad also stood against cities and rulers. I am not defending Muslims in any shape or form.

Zion and The Zionists: you are way off, and if somehow Jews do not learn that they are not really the chosen people and stop their arrogant acts, they will pay for their mistakes.
Now you eihter believe that history repeats itself, or think like this time its different. Just like how Jews probably thought everytime, building up to conditions that that ended up in such unfortunate conditions for them.

and I can tell you there will be no Persian Prince coming to rescue them next time :^(

//youtube.com/watch?v=yS

//youtube.com/watch?v=ySTIRiywl_U

Quran tells Muslims to kill the disbelievers wherever they find them (2:191), murder them and treat them harshly (9:123), slay them (9:5), fight with them (8:65 ), strive against them with great endeavor (25:52), be stern with them because they belong to hell (66:9) and strike off their heads; then after making a "wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives" for ransom (47:4).

Chomsky is deranged.

Payam,
he used to be a linguist, has done some work in linguistics which was effective at its time, now it is mostly seen has a dated hinderance than anything else. How ever now, he lives of a university position although he does almost no academic work, engages in this kind of crap and is paid by the university for it. That is a parasitic life.
Why is he deranged? Someone who claims to be progressive and supports a terrorist fascist gang like Hizballah, for what ever reason, is deranged.
//littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=2057...
//memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Ar...
And read this as well:
//yalibnan.com/site/archives/2006/05/noam_cho...

This is just one instance of his lunacy. His entire career today is comprised of similar stances. In many ways he is living a lif as close as possible to that of an Ayatollah himself, abusing he academia, have his umma of devout followers as a source of emulation! He even has his own pet monkeys, little ayatollahs to fill in his place, like Finkelstein who also just has to go and support hizballah and insult the free thinking Lebanese now that his master has done so. And if you think this at least shows their independence in thought, think again brother. They are just ollowing to the letter an old hypocritical ritual of a certain kind of `intellectual`, before them was Foucolt praising your Islamic revolution, Sartre praising Castro as his existential man, all those defenders of Soviet Union, Stalin, Lenin, the anti-imperialist of his time Hitler... .

Oh Sadegh, there is nothing especial about Jews like Chomsky. The commie Jews were always against Zionism and later Israel. The worst measures in the Soviet Union against Jewish communities and Jewish dissidenst were always taken by Jewish communists in the party ranks. It goes even further back, the worst lies and measures against Jews were always inspired by Jewish converts and their likes, in the inquisition, in the Roman world, in the Hellenistic world. It goes way back.

World,
have you ever asked yourself why the whole world was against Galileo at one time, Darwin? Why all those who stood for something worthwhile were a minority in their life time, and in many cases pariahs? Jews are a national symbol of such people. It started with our mythical Abraham. He too was a sole man against the entire public opinion of his time.

On the back 9,
You are absolutely correct. You`ve shown you have a good head over your shoulders and have seen behind the facade. Good for you.

Bijan and Zion, Turn Off Your TVs and Read, Read, Read.

Immortal Technique is amazing and Bijan is right Dariush. You are sick for displaying such horrific, disgusting, and gruesome images. But that is exactly what we need now, SOME REALITY about war, terror, and the history of a young and arrogant empire. And as for Chomsky, I would love to see some evidence of him being deranged, as brother Zion suggested as the "truth." As far as I know, his brain and memory function more effectively than any scholar and professor I've come across. He is truly one of the greatest thinkers.

Peace,
Payam

Chomski, etc., no saints in my book.

Having lived through the events leading to 79 revolution and beyond, I no longer necessarily validate people like Chomsky and the likes of that rapper as righteous or correct. Just because they seem to speak for the masses and against the elite power structures, does not mean they are right. Maybe it's just me nearing 50:))

Bijan A M

If others who have a different opinion than you are a threat to freedom and security and must be silenced you must know that they are listening to your opinions and not willing to silence you. This makes you a threat to freedom and security.

//video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-809144920...

Zion sk yourself, resond

Zion, have you ever asked yourself why the world prefers that Israel just went away?
If you don't agree, you are in denial. if you agree, enlighten us why most Jews just don't get it.

Individuals like Zion

Individuals like Zion are simply bitter because 'one of their own' (here they evince their racial-supremacist ideology) have dared to question the offical Israeli line i.e. fabricated jingoistic myths which bear little resemblance to reality...Chomsky is one of the top ten most quoted individuals in history and an intellectual giant in both the field of linguistics and political analysis...He will be remembered long after petty and resentful individuals like Zion and their hateful tirades have been forgotten...In addition, we should also note that Zion is not Iranian, and therefore has no real personal stake in whether Iran is bombed or not...This of course doesn't mean that only Iranians can care about the fate of Iran, it just means that one should be circumspect with regard to this suspect individual's motives. The fact is, is that he is in total pursuit of his own narrow agenda i.e. Israel's 'security needs', and does not care one iota about the people of Iran...

Ba Arezu-ye Movafaghiat, Sadegh

Thank you

Noam Chomsky is a great scholar and his political analysis is credible, accurate and fair. Kucinich and Gravel were the best candidates amongst these politicians, the "change" would have been real if one of them was picked as the next president!

Dariush, that was a very good but disturbing video. I wish you had written a warning for the faint hearted so they wouldn't blame you for posting it.

 Thank you both

IRANdokht

Thanks

mamnoon Dariush az babate video.

Zion is right

Anybody exposing the crimes of Israel and their supporting lobby must be crazy. They basically sign their death certificate as a politician - so they must be crazy.

Chomsky is truly deranged.

It`s the truth. No other explanation. Simple as that.

I love IT!

Hiphop is the voice of the people.

Biajane aziz, you sound like you really don't know much about this country, if you think someone is a thrat just because of a music video.

get with it!

Dariush

You are so sick, that you either should be intitutionalized or be sent to Guantanamo Bay.

Either way you are a threat to security of this nation. You don't belong to the free world.

Racism