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Mard Goosaalehayeh Bi Gheyrat

Khalaayegh Ancheh Laayegh ...

Khak bar sare mardom!

Vaghean ke khak bar sare in hame mard (va zan) ke oonja vaysadan negah mikonan. Eshkale bozorg ine ke kheili az oon kesafatayi ke vaysadan va hichkari nemikonan tahe deleshoon ba in jomhoorie eslamie ahmagh ham aghidan. Aksariate ke hamash donbale namazo rooze o maraseme ahya bashe hokoomate kesfati mesle inke darim ro rooye kar miyare va negah midare.

Bichare oon aghaliati ke dare misooze too oon mamlekat.

Someday we will find the Way ...

"Thats not a solution, Regrets of Revolution. Together we Must Stand ..." -Nazanin Afshin Jam

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Re: aaminian

Thanks NATO for invading Afghanistan, increasing opium production by 200% and making heroin, crack etc cheaper in the streets of Tehran than bread. The british and the french love the mullahs, and they are breaking down the people the same way they did with the opium war against the chinese.

I remember at the height of the student reform movement in the end of the 90`s. when people were demonstrating and I could have swore that a change would come, I also remember jack Straw holding lectures at our universities telling iranian youth what a fine government the IRI is..

RE: Gol dust

Damet garm baradar, I was in Tabriz, and this one chadori woman was holding this girl, she as at the top 15-16 years old, and the police woman was waiting for backup, holding a walkie talki, the girl was screaming, I hesitatet, but my brother man, he was beautifull, he just walked over saying nothing, and pushed the chadori down on the ground, and then just walked away as the girl ran away too. Found him paranoid and shaking in a street alley smoking himself to death..

The point is anyway, battles like these are for us, not for the israelis or americans, nor french or english. They are not interested in "giving freedom to us", they are interested in our death and destruction.

Iran must be bombed!

How can anyone have sympathy with the Iranian regime or people when you see such things happen on the streets and people gather there and watch how a woman being harrassed and dragged into a car? I hope they bomb Iran soon!

Zion

Good question!  In my opinion there should be absolutely no foreign intervention, militarily or otherwise. 

In the past whenever there has been an uprising inside Iran that was somehow put in motion by the pro-Pahlavi/Iranian dissident groups via satellite, it's been dealt with ferocious force by the mullahs.  Because let's face it, the same satellite program that's viewed by the people are intercepted and viewed by the government officials.

Military intervention would be even worse because as a result of any strategic operations (read massive bombings) many people will be killed and that only unites the people that are against the regime behind it.

An indigenous movement is possible and more favourable if Iranians are more disciplined and focused.  I am not sure that is very likely to happen as long as the Iranian youths are preoccupied with drugs and alcohol.

Apathy

Its so typical of Iranians to wait for someone else to do something first! What are Iranians waiting for? Do we wait for intervention from outside again ... then  only to spend the next 30 years looking for a cuprit to blame instead of ourselves because we dont like what we have ....again. How many times does history have to repeat itself before the people of Iran learn to take responsibility for what they helped to create or for what they want to create. ?

We all have a responsibility for everything in our lives as individuals and as a nation of people. Even if we werent born 30 years ago, and had no part in the creation of what Iran has become today, today we choose not to do anything about it.  We live elswhere in this world, we complain, we blame, we try to intellectulise it all but at the end of the day .. nothing will change it until we choose to change it.

And someone said the bystanders are waiting for someone else to do something first .... many have tried to stand up for the injustices over the past 30 years....! so what happened then ?

How bad does it have to get before this apathy leaves us

Javaneh

I have sent the link to all my non-Iranian friends...

Thanks for posting this video!

I have many American friends (mostly writer friends) who are always curious about my background and then they would ask: "Don't you miss your home?"
Of course this question is like the beginning of a long conversation that I always try to avoid. (like avoiding something predictable, something repetitive)

With this graphic video, I have finally found a perfect response!

I am sure; from now on, (since I have already sent the link to all of them) they would stop asking for more details...Azarin

If those bystanders ever make a move...

If Iran every reaches the point where those bystanders shed their fear and all hurry to the aid of their fellow countrywoman, then they have a shot at a less repressive regime. As Ryszard Kapuściński put it so well in Shah of Shahs, it was only when the Iranian people shed their fear of the Savak that the Shah's demise was spelled out. For as long as the masses remain a silent bystander, they will only be the subject of more and more oppression.

But, like all despotic regimes in history, the Iranian regime will push its people past that barrier of patience and fear with their continued acts of tyranny.

Dear Shahyad

I am not discrediting what you say, but are you saying that you would have done something?

I wish you would! All of us would, but when it comes to it, no one cares. That's the life that we have come to know now. Here, there, everywhere.

'In Iran, freedom is absolute'

dobareh zer zad

We really don't need this kind of thing; we are a government which 98% of the people back and support.

//www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-o...

Jamshid

Jamshid,

The Americans as well as the British of that time were very uncivilized. The US became the US because rejects, criminals, rapists, etc were exiled from Britain and came to the US.
These people were no better than the rulers in Iran.

If I remember as you should remember a simple history lesson, one just had to be accused of being a witch and you would be hanged without proof. An adulterer would be whipped.

Sad thing is so many Iranians have an inferiority complex...they feel everything that has happened here in the US is great while whatever happens in their country is horrible. Why is it that Iranians can not admit both are horrible things that have happened?

See the following:

During his 1904 campaign, Mississippi governor James Vardaman was moved to attend a lynch mob stake burning, likening the victim to an ape being punished for kidnapping a human baby.

Blacks weren’t the only victims. Hispanic Antonio Rodriguez was, incredibly, burned at the cactus in Rock Springs, Texas, on Nov. 3, 1910, after being charged on poor evidence with murdering a white woman. He was doused with kerosene beforehand.

But African-Americans certainly bore the brunt of this grotesque pyromania. After being legally sentenced to death (by hanging) for the rape/murder of a white woman, Jesse Washington of Waco, Texas, was dragged out of court by a mob. He was covered with oil, then hanged from a chain over a bonfire.

In Kirven, Texas, on May 4, 1922, McKinley Curry found himself accused—probably correctly—of murdering a teenage girl. A mob dragged him from jail and castrated him with knives. Then they bound him to a plow, stacked wood around it, and burned him alive. Two of his friends were also murdered by being dragged through the flames.

James Irwin of Ocilla, Georgia was tortured by a mob—including having his teeth pulled out with pliers—before he was burned alive and shot to pieces. That was in 1930.

On Jan. 25, 1942, Cleo Wright of Sikeston, Missouri, stabbed a white woman and then attacked a cop. Seized by a mob, he was dragged behind a car through town, then doused in gas and burned alive in the street in the black part of town.

Now are Americans any less animals than Iranians are?? Americans speak of their democracy here and now so quickly...they quickly forget what little freedom and democracy many people had just a few years ago.

Remember "We hold these truths to be self evident that all men are created equal..." unless you were African, Native American, Spanish, Chinese, and now Iranian...and unfortunately Iranians believe it based on the posts here...

Distgusting! Absolutely

Distgusting! Absolutely disgusting! I hate the IRI. I hate them for turning men in to voyeurs. For turning them into scrotumless pansies who would tolerate such humiliation on to one of their sisters. I understand that this regime has turned this poor populate into intimidated masses. It still disgusts me. This is not Iran! These are not Iranians! These are vahshees! How can the "man" of the IRI regime say stupid shit like we'll break the hand of the person that would pull the trigger on attacking Iran when they themselves pull the trigger every second of every day on the beegonahs. I suffer from fantasies that someday Iranians will stop playing the victim and standup to their oppressors. I also suffer from fantasies that a foreign liberator will come in and save the day. Unfortunately these are only fantasies.

To American-wife

Dear American wife

I agree with you assertions and comparisons. The main difference between the American revolution and the lack thereof in Iran is the difference between Iranians and Americans as people. The individualism that is so readily praised and appreciated in this culture does not exist in Iran. The Iranian culture is a deep and sophisticated culture, however, it praises conformity.
You see the difference in Iran is this... many of the people standing around that young lady being attacked were outraged but were waiting for someone else to react first and if you have that mentality then no one will ever react. This goes so deep that during dinner conversations....it is all about when the americans or the british are going to bring a revolution and change Iran...it is never about when will we bring about the needed change. I am an Iranian and I am very proud of it, however, unlike many on this site I love this land (USA) and its people for many reasons....one being their courage and sense of individuality against all odds. Please do not be discouraged by some of the responses that you have received from others on this site....I can tell you there are many who live here, thrive here, use all that it has to offer and yet are ungrateful and deep down want nothing but its demise....they hide behind their veil of freedom of expression and democracy but it is more expression of hate under the guise of the freedom of speech.

Arab Invasion

Arab ivasion thru religion ISLAM 1400 years and counting......

Re: American Wife and aaminian

American Wife: 

"I don't ever feel like I'm getting a good enough answer to WHY you (Iranians) put up with it"

"I remind him of our American Revolution and all I get is "you don't understand". "

Are you compareing the American Revolution with what is going on in Iran? This is a totally wrong comparison. The Americans were dealing with the British Colonials who nevertheless were a civilized bunch even in the 1700s.

I don't recall the British "stone" people to death or be willing to commit similar atrocities. They weren't even close to the level of brutality and savagery of the IRI in Iran. Addtionally, they did not have total and complete command of the entire US as they did in India for example, or as the IRI has today in Iran. Also, they were not facing a completely unarmed nation.

A better comparison would be the German bystanders during the rise of Nazis.

An even better comparison would be the Americans who "put up" (in your own words) with slavery for more than a century.

Frankly, under the same cirumenstances, I think Americans would have done no better than Iranians are doing today.

Now do you understand?

Aaminan:

Please stop barking IRI's propaganda in this site.

Despite your futile attempt to protray it otherwise, the IRI regime is despised by the majority of Iranians. Hardly even 10 percent of the population support this regime.

"they (basiji) number 11,000,000"

11 million of the total 70 million population is basiji? akheh marde hesaabi, to ye zarbo taghsim ham nemitooni bokoni?

I'll do it for you. Half of Iran's population, 35 million, is male. Of those, 45% are children under age of 15 or men above 60. That leaves you with about 20 million.

Kurds, Lors, Baloochi and other none Azari minorities are 20 percent of Iran's population. There are very few basijis from these mostly Sunni areas. That leaves you with 16 million.

So are you saying that 11 out of 16 million, about 70% of all able male bodies in Iran are basiji? Even during the Iran-Iraq war we didn't have that kind of ratio for the combined basiji, pasdar, regular army servicemen and reserves.

Talking about ignorance... Do you still stand by your "11 million" number?

Iran misdiagnosed, again!

Mistreatment and disastrous outcomes is what usually awaits a patient that is misdiagnosed.

Iran is now the patient and it cannot be treated and recover until its ailment is correctly diagnosed.

We only know of the one disease called "foreign conspiracy".   For us, it explains what has befallen our impoverished masses.  And so we continue to dispense the wrong and ineffective treatment for Iran, the fallen and disgraced land we call our own. 30 years ago it was the Islamic  revolution. I wonder what it will be next time and how it will be rationalized.

 This is why I cannot fully enjoy the travelogue photos from Iran.  How can I, when I know that at its roots is Islam gone wrong, and today, just like a healthy cell turned cancerous, perpetuates itself by instilling fear, dogma, deception, and brutality.    

Alborz

Someday

Someday, our children will look back and say: "what made those generations to be so submissive and fearful to something as collapsible as the Islamic Republic of Iran?"

They will ponder on that question knowing the fact that in the regional conflicts of 2025, Bahrain military annihilated the IRI in 72 hours and they took full lunch brake as well.

Our choice is to make an action now or wait for Bahrain to come forward as our saviors....

I have beat up these bastards, but I paid a heavy price for it!

In my youth I used to be a boxer (I am in martial arts now), when I defended two girls against 4 guys who were forcing her to a car. I beat them all up very badly and threw them in the joob! However, as I was walking off, one of them stabbed me 6 times. I am lucky to be alive! But, that never stopped me from standing up for what is right.

Watching this video boiled my blood! You bet, if I were there I wouldn't be a bystander, which might not be the smartest thing, but sorry I don't come from a bystander family either. If I were I wouldn't have lost my 19 year old Iranian boxer brother during the revolution. This regime is an insult to those who like my brother lost their lives for betterment of our beloved Iran! Marg bar hazboolahi regime! They are disgrace to our nation and religion!

Apparently things have changed now. When I last visted home, my brother was begging me to stay, until an incident happened. After he saw my reaction he asked me to leave immediately, since if i would stay I would be put in jail by these bastards! Well, I cussed khomeini and khameni and the entire regime in broad day light and crowded place!

I was told:"yemosht bach cheh daahaati az hameh ja boland shodan omadan tehran ro be goh keshidan! Apparently it is all over iran! Of course, he didn't mean all people from daahaat are like that! No! But I hope you get his point! He said that they are used to it, but I am not! He suffers witnessing all that, but he has spent too many years in prison because of these bastards! So, I am glad I am not there, since I would be put in jail as well!

To American lady  -  What democracy? we are made to believe we have democracy in the US. US congress, media, movie, and yes presidents are chosen by AIPAC and put up for our votes making us believe we have democracy! It is a democracy that idiot Palin and geezer McCain will be our president? They are there because they can be controlled by Lieberman, kissinger the gofather, etc!

Government of Coportion, by the corporation, for the corporation!

BEE-GEYRAT...

SHAME ON THE SO-CALLED "MEN" STANDING AROUND AND WATCHING THIS POOR GIRL BEING DRAGGED AWAY BY THESE ANIMALS...

 THEY ARE TRULY SAD ...

AFSOOS... 

To Amir Kabir

Though we are usually charmed by your choice of names, we would like you to know that if you use offensive words in your name again, we will have to delete your entire comment.

Aaminian

Based on your observation, what is your position regarding the usual mantra one hears from ex-pat Iranians who claim the people inside Iran can decide and implement any change they see fit, including a possible regime change. And that confronting the regime has to be left to Iranians inside Iran without any outside intervention? Please be direct and clear and consistent.

Trumpet Blast

Fattollah, you think like that because you are no better than those whom you call hay... ensaan nama. you attack without justification, provocation and reason, out of gharaz and hate.
The only difference is they have the opportunity and you dont so you strike in you own little ways.
What comes out of empty thoughts is more idle empty thoughts. The least you can do is fix yourself.

aaminian

"I don't know of you're familiar with the term Basiji; they are the pro-regime ultra-fanatic Islamic militia, the likes of which you've not seen before; they number 11,000,000+ (no kidding!). Al Qaeda members or Sunni suicide bombers in Iraq would seem like pussy cats next to these fanatics."

It would be difficult for anyone who hasn't been inside Iran to grasp what I am describing here. I am not sure how else I can explain it.

That's exactly the point that people who were away from Iran for the last 30 years or people who never been there UNDERSTAND!

Watching something in TV. reading an article here and there, comparing apples to oranges is one thing, living it, seeing it, dealing with it with your being is another.

To American Wife

I disagree with the number you gave as the estimate for the supporters of the regime. When Shah was in power the entire nation would chant LONG LIVE THE SHAH! Everyone would stand up in the movie theatres in his honor (fear mingled with obligation add an ounce of obedience) when his picture filled the screen like we see a Coke advertisement at the AMC theatres.

So, with so much support that you can't even imagine what I am talking about, his royalty fell apart within 90 days, 60 days of it he was a lame duck king!

Same goes on today, it only appears that this regime has so much supporters. The class difference is so wide that I want to shock you by saying that the poor is no longer the supporter of the government, it is the rich class now that supports the regime. Their number is no more 20,000 in the entire Iran.

Trust me, the first military base that rises up the entire nation will support it, as long as if the rioters be able to jam the BBC World Service. BBC conducted the revolution in Iran and they will not cease to cripple any uprising again.

The riots that will happen should be surgical strikes against the British atrocities in Iran, all will crumble in three weeks.

The regime will fall in 3 weeks and their supporter is no more than 20,000 max.

You're right...

not having been to Iran and not BEING Iranian... I'm sure I don't know what all is involved.  And I'm not naive enough to think it's as easy as saying "stop it... go away".  But what you're implying is that the majority of the people support the regime.  How can that be?  Is it just the ex-patriots who have left that complain?  And why would that be?  Do you think that the people of Iran are satisfied with their way of life?   

Whatever... it's tragic.

To American Wife

Excellent point American wife. My decades of residency in the USA taught me the same that a determined force of a few can indeed stand up in front of an empire.

The British Empire (as in a new colonist by outsourcing the pain of running the actual government) is much weaker than the time of the American Revolution. The only difference is that the Iranians today are far more ignorant about who runs the show behind the scenes. The youth of 20's and 30's of today have no true idea of what Iran looked like before they were born and they think of the subject of the British interferences in Iran as a joke or a myth of the past.

But someday along the road everyone will find out who the real enemy was, alas the old age catches up with them and the prostate pain keeps them away from political philosophy. Such oblivion was the very reason why the British had to make sure that the Islamic republic would last at least through 3 generations for the very reason of out of sight, out of mind factor.

What Iran needs is a little spark and that spark will eventually come, just like it did in the former Soviet states. The future uprisings will by no mean guarantee a free Iran, but at this time the aim is not to overthrow a regime, it is to overthrow theocracy.

Theocracy is what Bush used to destroy this country (AKA look at the Wall Street) and theocracy is what any manipulative government will use to bring its nation to submission.

There is a little Osama Bin Laden in all of us, but some can control him better than the others.

Iran must rise against the British atrocities in Iran. It was the British that kicked America out of Iran for 30 years (so far) and in their dark alliance with the Russians. If the Americans don't help us to get rid of the British in Iran, the next choice will be China.

Greetings

American Wife

I'd have to agree with "A foreigner" on the fact that the Mullah Regime has a lot of popular support. I believe that there is a lot of opposition from ordinary Iranians but that opposition is far outweighed by the support the regime receives from people in poor parts of big cities /villages/remote areas. Now, add to that the enormous military machine the regime has built (mainly after the Iran-Iraq war) and you see a whole different perspective.

I don't know of you're familiar with the term Basiji; they are the pro-regime ultra-fanatic Islamic militia, the likes of which you've not seen before; they number 11,000,000+ (no kidding!). Al Qaeda members or Sunni suicide bombers in Iraq would seem like pussy cats next to these fanatics.

It would be difficult for anyone who hasn't been inside Iran to grasp what I am describing here. I am not sure how else I can explain it.