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Anonymouse.....good to read
by Nadias on Wed Mar 19, 2008 09:02 AM PDTthat you are aware that there are also good men in Iran.
However, let us take it a little further. The same rule applies within any ethnic group whether they are in their native country or not.
There are good men and hopefully only a few bad men in all ethnic groups.
There are also good and not so good women in all ethnic groups too.
Solh va Doosti (paz a vosotros)
Nadia
Nazanine I asked some women in Iran.
by Anonymouse on Wed Mar 19, 2008 05:46 AM PDTNazanine unfortunately the system in Iran brings up many men like that. It includes my own family and many others that I saw during my many visits to Iran. I asked some of the younger women in my family and they all noded that unfortunately when (young) men are pursuing them they are very nice and roshanfekr but as soon as they get married they change face.
Some of these young women in my family were reluctant to get married because of this because they had seen it happen to so many of their friends.
This is like saying white men during segregation here in US were brought up to dismiss blacks and look at them as 2nd class citizens with no rights. Is that far fetched?
Many Iranian men inside and outside Iran ARE great MEN. Many in your family, many in mine and many others in other families.
However, as a general rule I believe young men in Iran see themselves as superior and current laws and schools and culture in Iran supports and ecnourage them. They were either born after the revolution or were only few years old when it happened and don't know how else women were treated before. In public not just in their families and their homes with no rosary.
When I was growing up and were told women HAD to wear chador in the past and saw many women still wearing chador, I'd say to myself it must have been difficult for both men and women for women to have to wear chador. For women because it was cumbersome and for men because they could not see anything! I'd compare a chadoree woman to mini-joup and would say to myself which is better?! I believed then and believe now that chador should be a personal choice, those who want to wear it (like some in my family) can wear it and those who don't want it (like some in my family) don't wear it.
I can easily not say it and believe that most men in Iran are brought up to fight for women's rights. Maybe they are. I think many are, they actually are. So ok I'll say it. Let's forget about what I said before. It is better this way. I feel better this way.
Anonymouse, Men in Iran?
by n.zanincanadai on Tue Mar 18, 2008 06:27 PM PDTAnonymouse, Men in Iran? "but as soon as they get them to marry them, they'll throw them to the corner like a used rag" WHAT? I am offended. Why do I always have to stick up for Iranian men? Iranian men are great. They are wonderful. There are a few exceptions but for every naa mard in Iran, you have one naa mard here. Please don't diss my brothers and fathers and sons and all the other wonderful men in Iran.
Anonymouse.....
by Nadias on Tue Mar 18, 2008 01:32 PM PDTYes, Haji is a interesting case. He lacks effective communication skills. If a man is unable to communicate with a woman then he will be alone for a long time.
Even you tried to set up a couple of matches for Haji on this web-site but Haji just did nothing.
I do agree in that you don't really know a person well until you live with them. However, when dating, one can see certain aspects of the individual's personality that should serve as a major red flag. It is when one needs to run for their life. :o)
Even better, why not just be friends with someone for some time and one can get to really know the individual without any false pretenses on either part.
Solh va Doosti (paz a vosotros)
Nadia
How regular guys treat regular women in Iran
by Anonymouse on Tue Mar 18, 2008 01:10 PM PDTNadias maybe I confused you. I was just trying to say how regular guys treat regular women in Iran. They don't do it on purpose and may even hate the regime but the way the society brings up its youth, by the time they get to date and marry someone they feel superior and thus end up abusive, even with the best of intentions.
The laws and society in general are just set up that way.
Obviously it is better to date someone to get to know them here in the West but as we all know that doesn't work a lot of times either. It hasn't worked for Hajiagha or those who wanted to be Hajiagha's wife :-)
Okay! Anonymouse ......what are you
by Nadias on Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:58 PM PDTtalking about?
I never compared dating practices in Iran with the West. I am already aware that it is foribidden to date in Iran.
Simply in your previous statement it appeared that you were saying that in Iran because marriages are arranged the women do not get to know who their future husband really is. They end up in abusive marriages.
Who is complaining about the women's rights brought about the Women's Suffrage movement?
I do agree in that good relationships are difficult to come by.
Solh va Doosti (paz a vosotros)
Nadia
Nadias
by Anonymouse on Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:21 PM PDTNot exactly. Dating in the West is very difficult -- to keep it short. We all know it.
Dating in Iran can be punishable by lashing and up to death. So not the most fun thing to do, yet people do it anyway. You can't compare the 2.
Feminism has changed the lives of many people, for the better in the end. You get to the point where you have won many rights and then you have the right to complain. So you don't want to go back to when women couldn't vote or had to go to beach in the prom dresses, do you?!
Bottom line good relationships are difficult to come by. It started with Adam and Eve where Eve dared Adam to cut him an apple to impress and feed her!
Anonymouse
by Nadias on Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:08 PM PDTSo, then according to your statement it is better in the West where people can date over a period of time to get to know, the person's true character.
I do agree in that the woman in the web link that Haji provided is a little to out there for Haji. He needs a balanced woman to help him bring balance to his life. He does not need anymore drama in his life.
Solh va Doosti (paz a vosotros)
Nadia
Generally.
by Anonymouse on Tue Mar 18, 2008 11:59 AM PDTI looked again and missed it the first 2 times I looked again and I see the stubborn comment now. This person in particular is probably too heavy metal for Hajiagha anyway but it would have been something to pair them together. I have seen couples actually get together and get married with far less things in common and much farther apart than Hajiagha and this woman.
As far as comparing relationships here and in Iran how about this one? Men will do anything in Iran to get the girl and marry her. They are nicer to women than teflon-e moslem but as soon as they get them to marry them, they'll throw them to the corner like a used rag. All of a sudden their true education and social upbringing under the currect situation in Iran shows up. No relationships, just straight to marriage comparable to winning a lottery.
Anonymouse joon, I never
by n.zanincanadai on Tue Mar 18, 2008 11:46 AM PDTAnonymouse joon, I never said morbidly obese. But fat is fat. She says in the add that she is stubborn. Living alone is normal. I know that. I was only making a superficial reference to courtship in Iran. A comparison of divorce laws here vs Iran or a comparison of Western women's alledged freedoms vs Iran is an entirely seperate issue. I understood your response to Haji Agha and hope that he meets the right lady with the perfect weight. I doubt that he is really setting his eyes on Miss Canada.
Come on Nazanin.
by Anonymouse on Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:59 AM PDTHow do you know she is fat?! she doesn't seem fat, she says curvy which is yes code word for fat, but still she is not obese. Hajiagha is thin like kebrit and I have a feeling he doesn't like thin women, "anna roxy" for him!
And where do you seen "stubborn"? She says she works Full Time, lives alone, loves animal and loves to take care of people she loves.
I see her as just a normal and typical person. Being alone is normal. Tens of millions in US and Canada are alone in all ages.
In Iran women have to beg their husbands to let them see their children since men get the children in divorce or separation. They also have to beg their men in their family, like father and brothers, etc.
Anyway, I know you have good intentions in heart but my response to Hajiagha is meant to say these are the kind of normal people whom he may be able to connect with.
Miss Canada (which I'm sure Hajiagha loves) is not going to say yes to him. He is seeking a normal person so he should look for these type of women, not barbies or fantasy women.
Speaking in General Terms
by n.zanincanadai on Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:38 AM PDTHaji has a very very good point. The only thing HajiAgha doesn't seem to understand is that many Iranians are in the same boat as this woman. Hasn't he seen the personal adds on the side of this web site?
One this is for sure, in Iran, most women don't have to beg. Here, many women have to beg. Thanks for feminism. They have to beg to move in with their boyfriends. They have to give ultimatums to get a proposal and so on.
Specifically, this lady Haji Agha has shown us needs to lose weight! Serious weight. And then she mentions she is too stubborn. Can you imagine being her boy friend? Vah Vah
Hajiagha she is good.
by Anonymouse on Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:25 AM PDTWhat is wrong with her? She seems like a perfectly normal person. The picture with a lemon is about having tequila and a lemon after it like a chashnee. The other 2 pictures are of a normal person. I'm not sure about the picture from the key hole but who cares, one bad picture. so what?
She wants someone to talk to her all the time so call her and say your english is not good so you want to talk to her a lot to make your english better.
Iranian women are best and educated
by hajiagha on Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:03 AM PDT//hajiagha.tripod.com
What is different between Iranian women and canadian women we are luck we have such good women in Iran look here a canadian women asking dating
//victoria.craigslist.ca/w4m/609340906.html
C'mon over Haji
by Mehran (not verified) on Tue Mar 18, 2008 07:35 AM PDTHaji, you will be a great asset in L.A. and you don't even have to worry about speaking English any more. C'mon over to L.A. and it would be fun
what you think, help haji ( ted) to date women
by hajiagha on Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:07 AM PDT//hajiagha.tripod.com
ba salam
any Iranian women like to date and get married from LA or around please e-mail me I have car to drive and money, and hard working guy educated, no drugs no drinking no smoking , problems in canada all women here are having drugs or smoking or drinking or totally mentaly????is risky to date women here is get worst and I don't like to make risk...
haji
cute...
by nonu (not verified) on Mon Mar 17, 2008 06:09 PM PDTthat was very cute...
AND informative...
i'm making the same thing, the same way on friday...
lili is great
by nanaz (not verified) on Mon Mar 17, 2008 03:06 PM PDTi like this video.
Most excellent. However,
by vidaa (not verified) on Mon Mar 17, 2008 02:12 PM PDTMost excellent. However, please do some homework in preparation for filming these videos so you won't come across as "AIR HEADES".
The directors and actors/particiants should have some background information on the topic; a little bit of history and less corny flirting...thanks. Keep up the great work!
Nice Clip!!
by Feri (not verified) on Mon Mar 17, 2008 01:57 PM PDTActually, Lili is mine.
JJ, Please find her phone number and send it to me if possible.
Thank you for your colaboration in this regard.
Very delicious recipe
by Nadias on Mon Mar 17, 2008 01:56 PM PDTSolh va Doosti (paz a vosotros)
Nadia
The three stooges
by oracle7 (not verified) on Mon Mar 17, 2008 01:34 PM PDTThese guys remind me of the 3 stooges. They are funny.