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That is the most half ass

That is the most half ass attempt at wearing a hijab. Besides what idiot man ever got turned on by a woman's hair. I have more faith in my male counterparts to think that they WON'T turn in to instant perverts if they saw a woman's coiffure. I can see it now if the IRI allowed women to go hijabless. Ahmad, did you see her pixie cut. No, but Saman did you see that assymetrical bob. I myself am getting super turned on by the long layers.
On a lighter note, what's up with this hajiagha. Is he for real?

ظاهر اسلامی

در بحبوحه جنگ ایران و عراق (۱۳۶۱) برای بر گرداندن برخی‌ وسأیل صدمه دیده  به مناطق جنگی رفتم، اولین شب در جبهه من تنها آدمی‌ بودم که ریش نداشتم، بقیه یا به خاطر اعتقاد یا بنا بر شرایط جنگ ریش انبوهی داشتند. زمان استراحت یکی‌ از "برادران" به من گیر داد که......برادر  شما چرا ریش نمیگذاری ؟

من برای کار دیگه‌ای اومده بودم و نه برای جر و بحث....نشنیده گرفتم....روز دوم باز این "برادر" پرسش  خودشو  تکرار کرد......با هر کلکی بود باز طفره رفتم!

روز آخر  که ما آماده بر گشتن بودیم "برادرمون" در حضور ۱۰-۱۵ نفر پرسید : برادر ‌ من سه بار از شما یک سو آل کردم و هنوز به من جواب ندادید

دیگه راه طفره رفتن نداشتم، جلوی چند نفر!

_ فلسفه ریش گذاشتن  چیه؟

-سنت رسول خداست!

- بقیه ظاهر رسول خدا  چه جوری بود؟

-طبق تصویر‌ها و روایات، عبا و عمامه و نعلین.

-منافق‌ترین آدم زمان رسول خدا کی‌ بود؟

-آبو سفیان.

- ظاهر ابو سفیان چه جور بود؟ ریش، عبا، عمامه و نعلین! درسته؟........... رسول خدا لباس و  ظاهر  زمان و مکان خودش رو داشت ! تو برای من مجوز بگیر که من عبا و عمامه هم بگذارم و از همین فردا  ریش هم میگذارم!

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و برای اولین بار گزارش شدم............. مرتد!!

I really had a hard laugh in

I really had a hard laugh in my stomach, who gave her visa to come to the US? the same idiot that gave you a visa.

The Pope

If what you are saying about Sima Daad is true, it makes me wonder how on earth were they granted a visa to enter the United States?

If that is the case, then they need to be thrown out of here on the first available plane.

I understand

Thank you Souri and The Pope. At least now I understand where she is coming from. I don't have anything against her nor do I want to blame her. I really hope that being here will help her understand what freedom means. It took me a long time to reach where I am now. Maybe through education people would realize that virtue is not a piece of cloth you wear around the head. Delam khoon mishe ke bebinam dokhtarayeh Irooni inchonan khodeshoono nokareh araba konnan. Baaz in neez bogzarad. Lets have hope for a bright and secular future for us and all people.

Peeroz bash va ba sepas,
Shamse Vazir

She DOESN'T have a choice, she MUST wear a hejaab...

Earlier down this thread I said that these people are I.R. "agents" without going too much in details... But now that some naive people commented that it's "her choice", "she can choose whatever she likes", "her freedom to decide" and blah blah blah... Well, I got news for you guys: NO SHE DOESN'T HAVE A CHOICE because her mother works for I.R. and they're supervised by the regime...

Sahar's mother, Sima Daad, is an English teacher at T.I.S. (Tehran International School). T.I.S is a VERY important school in Tehran (in Shahrak-e gharb), it's a school for foreigners (or half persians) and children of embassadors. All the teachers at T.I.S. are supporters of the regime, totally pro-hezbollah and informants.

So they don`t have much choice but to wear hejaab, even if in America...

We all know how much of a hypocrite the I.R. employees are... And Sahar doesn't have much choice because of her family's position back in Iran, so she made this video-clip to portray wearing hejaab as a personal choice of hers.

Shamse Vazir: your point is correct

I understand better now and I do agree. You are right. But also we shouldn't get angry with them, that will give the opposit result. We have to talk to them and trying to make them understand these values. As Irandokht said, these young girls have been used to those wrong values.

It will takes time to change them, but this is our duty to talk to them and not doing war to them. Because they will feel oppressed if we fight them harshly

No wonder, Americans think

No wonder, Americans think Iranians are Arabs, go figure

Missing the point

I am not objecting to what she wants to wear, she can put on whatever clothes she wants. I do object to the characterization of Hijab as being a part of my heritage. These folks go around telling everyone that "Iranian" culture this and "Iranian" culture that. Then the rest of us have to spend untold amounts of time doing damage control and suffer unearned prejudice because we get bundled along with them.

A scarf by itself is not an issue. A Hijab on the other hand is a symbol of oppression both to women and men. It makes women objects to be protected and turns men into sex fiends who are otherwise unable to control themselves. It is also a sign of arab domination of Persians and should therefore not be glorified. If someone wants to put on a scarf that is their business. If they claim it is because it is a part of MY culture, then it is my business.

Short Answer: SO WHAT?

She wants to cover her head? That's her choice. And if that's what she chooses, then it must be respected.

Some of you seem to be missing out on the simple fact that being here in this country, she has the freedom to decide whether or not she wants to wear roosari.

Whether or not she will always wear it is another matter entirely. It has nothing to do with cultural identity. It is part of her individual identity because she was obliged to conform to these stupid "laws" since childhood.

As she further adapts to her new environment, she may come to decide not to wear it anymore. But whether she does or not, it will be her decision and not something forced upon her by some fat, smelly basiji in the street.

Shamse Vazir and others

This is exactly how miscommunication happens.

I am not defending her islamic values!!!! I am saying she is wearing that scarf because that's all she knows. Give her time! it's probably the same attitude seen here that is making her defensive about her outfit.

Open your mind! put yourself in someone else's shoes. Don't be so quick to judge and persecute someone.

She's young, she's vulnerable. She is not even wearing an "islamic hejab"! When I left Iran, what she's wearing cost a lot of women harsh punishment.

The problem with our society is not how one young girl is hanging on to a loose scarf. Our problem is that we paint everyone with the same brush. We hate IRI so much that any mention of a woman not wanting to part with her roosari is making our blood boil!!!

We're being intolerant and hateful towards each other and anyone who doesn't comply with our ways! We've become a nation of little dictators.

khoda rahm koneh!!!

IRANdokht

It doesn't mean that I approve

what she is doing. I, like you, think that these people would feel more comfortable if they went to an Islamic country to live.

What I want to say is, it is not because of her belief in Islam (as she might think now) but it is her habit that make her to think she is doing this for her faith.....and I hope she will change her mind.

انشا‌الله

انشا‌الله بزودی با خانم ایلار در یک photo shoot ظاهر خواهند شد و این مسائل حل می‌شه. انشا‌الله.

از بابت سلامتی این خانم یک صلوات بلند ختم کنید:

الله ما صل الا محمد و ال محمد، مممد ، همد ....

Make your feelings known

For decades we the Persian diaspora have had to apologize for the actions of Islamic radicals inside Iran. Now they are brining their anti-social values to the West. How does this young woman dare claim Hijab is an Iranian custom? It is by definition an Islamic custom which was forced at sword point on the Iranian people both 1400 years ago and now by the IRI. If we remain silent or worse condone her actions then we are telling everyone in the West that Hijab is indeed a part of our culture. Believe me next thing they will demand would be Sharia law as they did in 2004 in Canada.

I would like to remind all those who are defending this woman that it was the same Islamists who gave us the revolution, the hostage crisis, the IRI, and so much suffering. I for one am tired of them. We may not be able to change the IRI but we can most definitely make it clear to all in the West that this is not our way. People who defend Islamists should read the book "Understanding Mohammad" by Ali Sina.

I question why did this family even come here? They obviously don't embrace Western values. Maybe they are here for economic reasons. If so they need to understand that there is already a vibrant Persian community here and they do not speak for us. Even better maybe they should move to an Islamic country where they would feel at home.

Irandokht, I do agree with you

All you said in this thread was also my opinion. I think it's just
because she doesn't feel comfortable with the change. But with time, she will.

I knew a case like this, when I was in France. One of the girl in a
family, insisted to keep her Hijab, while the parents were indeed very
unhappy about that. It took 3 years for her, to change her decision.
Now it's almost 15 years she has no hijab and wear the very fashion
style clothes.

Mr. Kadivar

Iranian women after the revoulurion:)

In regards to her Identity

I don't think she has any identity at all. Her identity was cast by the people around her and she is just following it since that is the easy way out.

 
A free thinking and educated woman will never put up with a nonsense like this and subject herself to the will of a man. Imagine this girl trying to raise her children in the future. She is a disgrace to the name Iranian.

Give her a break!!

Why are you guys badmouthing her? She's not wearing the IRI's style of islamic hejab, she's wearing a colorful and loose head covering that can be seen in a lot of the iranian folkloric costumes.

She's young and she's been wearing a scarf over her hair all her life.

You gentlemen may not know, but it's not easy for someone who's been wearing a scarf to let go of it completely and overnight. it's like asking you to wear a kilt in a scottish ceremony so you look like everyone else. You may end up liking the freedom that the kilt offers you, but it's not what you're used to and won't be comfortable at first.

Give the young girl a break before you jump on her please. She's not wearing an islamic hejab and she looks beautiful with or without it.

IRANdokht

Facts and Fiction

Dear Commentators,
Just wanted to point out that veiling is actually an ancient Persian, not Arab, tradition. In fact, it was used as a status symbol for woman in the higher classes. Afterall, what working woman could veil herself and make a living?!?? (See No god but God by R. Aslan). In any case, that is neither here nor there. If you disagree with the practice of veiling that is your business - indeed, I also disagree with the premise behind some forms of veiling - however, I believe it is important to be fair mindied about the expression of our views. As Iranians we should not use slurs and disrespectful language to describe Arabs or other ethnic groups. Let us rise above that low form of communication. If you've got something important and valid to say - you don't need to be insulting or derogatory to make your point. Iran is a mismash of many different ethnicities - respect and cherish all aspects of our heritage while keeping true to your beliefs and opinions. Anything else makes us just as bad as the "others" we criticize.

In solidarity,
Kafah Bachari Manna

FYI/Let Us Pray Together-Elvis Presley ;0)

Oh Lord Lets Pray Together ... Amen.

PLEASE, Stop "representing my culture"

This freak is "representing my culture"?????

I truly hate these freaks. Please go back to Iran.
Don't pollute the entire world with your insanities.

I've got the superfreaks in Britain too with these tents over their heads.
they scare the hell out of me. It's like walking into a horror movie film set.

A few days ago I took the bin down, just wearing a summer dress and one of these scarfheads passed by and gave me that look. You know that look: vah vah vah cheghadr namahrami, cheshme mano kasif kardi.

VOMIT!

Akhe, agahbmoonde. Since when does a piece of cloth on your head have anything to do with your identity?
What's next? The nailvarnish I wear is my identity?
Can't you see how dumb you are!

Go to Saudi Arabia or something.

Just go away!

She can do what ever she

She can do what ever she likes, as long as she does not force her believes onto others! That is what America is all about, a free country. Hejab may or may not be a part of Iranian culture and God bless Iraj Mirza!

IRI Paradise - Hajiagha

I think you wrote the word Canada by mistake in your Farsi and  English post. This is exactly describing the daily life in your paradise, IRI. Bee Ensafee az shomast doosteh Gerami. Vas-salam! 

I live in jungle call canada

I do not know in canada who have sex with who Mon with sun, brother with sister, father with own girl, gay by gay, women by women, man with dog, women with gorilla.....every things is a rung place , 14 years old girl get drunk on street, ask for money to buy drug and sale sex, 15 years old boy stolen car and crash to people, a guy get in bus and cut the head of the others, a women attack the bus driver with hammer, 8 years old boy and girl was having sex in front of my apartment last month i toke pic ? by 400mm zoom camera ..what is going on here  is jungle ?

300,000 homeless on are street , drug every where gang and crime

This is a made-up culture

Culture comes from hundreds or thousands of years of doing something. There is no history of this kind of garment in Iran. Yes, there is a 30-year old partial cuture. But that's not enugh to call it "culture." This young woman, like many others in Iran is confused. She thinks by wearing this, she is asserting herself. Well, she is not! If she is doing this either because she thinks she looks better with the so-called Hejab, then more power to her. She is simply doing something to look better (yes, believe it or not many of our more wholesome sisters wear the hejab because it actually makes them look sexier, better). But if she thinks she is representing a cuture, she is mistaken. This is a cult mentality. Women were not born to wear hejab.
Another idea, if you feel that you need to wear the hejab, at least wear a nice-looking one. What you and many others wear makes you look foolish. Use some taste my dear!

I have answer to this women like to be free

متاسفانه ادم های بی مطقی هستید اگر نبودید باعث نمی شد من هم از فرهنگ انسانی این خانم حمایت کنم ازادیبا فساد قاطی می کنید ادم های که حتی از تربیت فرزندان تان هم عاجز هستید یا ان خانمی که افتخار می کند هر شب تو بغل یک نفرباشه کجا می تواند مادر خوبی بشه یا این چه فرهنگی بالا بروید و پائین بیا ئید بیشتر مردم متوجه می شوند فرهنگ اسلامی ایران بهتر از این تنهائی و بی شخصیتی و...این خانم مایه افتخار ماست و من هنرمند به وبا این گونه خانم ها بهتر علاقه مند تا اون که معلوم نیست چکاره است از یک جوان کانادائی سر کارم پرسیدم چند تا خواهر و برادر هستید و گفت مادرم از دوست پسر اولی دو تا دختر داره و با پدر من دوست پسزه و من از دوست پسر دوم ما مانم هستم و ...خر تو شیر  و فرهنگ ما

Your culture? Are you Arab? Persians never wore Hijab (Arabic!)

Unless you are an arab iranian this is is not your culture. this is our imposed arab culture! Go to any village, they don't wear chador, but they are all covered! Hijab came into the picture during the Ghajar, where it was the status symbol for rich showing their wives didn't need to work, since chador was very restrictive making it difficult for the to work. Later, commoners in the City wanted to pretend they were rich too and started wearing them! And so on....  Show offs! Then became a new culture! Nowhere in Islam says that women should wear chador! This is Arab men's creation!

I agree with many

on this site...Either Identity crises or Tazahor is root to all this...It has nothing to do with Iranian culture....

Choice?

Wow! we are always thought that the cloth or the outer shell doesn't make the man or the woman. This documentary proves that point again!  Although I'm for choice in all aspects of life for men or women but I can't grasp the idea that in the case of Hejab, men (Mard-Salari) in the society has not forced this on the women. Be it by the fathers, brothers or husbands based on "cultural" or "religious" values which are established by men (Eve was created from Adams ribs). The subject on this video proclaims that the Hejab is her “identity” so if that is the case it means without Hejab she is nobody?!  This idea of worthlessness is injected on to woman in the societies with the backwarded views towards female gender. As we all know in Iran woman in the court of law has half the value of a man. In some parts of India and other developing countries women are bought and sold as commodities from birth to adulthood. In China couples will do everything in their power to have a baby boy instead of a baby girl. So by saying “this is my identity” her mind is actually perpetuating the belief that she is weak and worthless and need this false sense of protection which society has injected on to her since birth. In some views the Hejab is forced by Mulahs on Iran this statement is partly correct, but before the revolution women weren’t fully liberated from Hejab, perhaps half of the women were still in Hejab forced on them by the factors that I mentioned above and economics. Woman from middle to upper class or educated had throw away this repressive symbol but the lower the position in the society it was in place full force.  We have to look at Hejab as a disease in society, disease of Mard-Salari and backwardness which need to be eradicated by education and modification to core beliefs in our culture and society.

Human weakness created religion, religion perpetuated human weakness!

Truly Disappointing

Hejab or the Islamic covering has always been an oppressive force to silence women and make them second class citizens. But what is perhaps most disappointing is the this young lady believes that covering her hair is actually part of her cultural identity. Nothing can be further from the truth.

It is even debatable if the idea of hejab, and the act of covering is part of Islamic religious identity or if it was borrowed from the Greek Orthodoxy that enforced black coverings on their women (much more oppressive looking than the chador) and forced them into hiding. PLEASE READ KAREN ARMSTRONG'S ISLAM. IT IS TRULY ENLIGHTENING!