A shocking document in which someone asks Khamenei an inheritance related question, pertaining to Zoroastrians and he calls them "Kaafar" (infidels). I am so embarrassed... According to this decree, if a Zoroastrian converts to Islam and his parents die, the convert will get the entire inheritance while "infidel" siblings get nothing. [SEE DOCUMENT]
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Even Shiites themselves are Kafirs
by jimzbund on Thu Oct 16, 2008 07:45 PM PDTAccording to Sunnis, Shiites are kafirs ! so a kafir calling others kafir doesn't mean much . Unfortunately majority of Iranian Muslims have traded their Persian virtues for the Arab vices under the name of Islam. But as the saying goes in persian " gahi zeen beh poshto gahi posht beh zeen".
Al kafir al ozma ,
Bund, Jimz Bund
Kafar
by Muslim (not verified) on Mon Oct 13, 2008 03:37 PM PDTAs a Muslim who has read the Quran regarding inheritance I can tell you that what is happening in Iran is a perversion of Islam. Nowhere in the Quran does it say that non-Muslims have zero rights. Even Kafars (who by the way are not Zoroastrians, Christians, Jews or anyone else who believes in God) have rights and responsibilities.
I believe that Neither the Shia or Sunni interpretations are correct in their understanding of Islam. I also believe that it is incumbent upon each and every Muslim to read the Quran and try to make sense of it for themselves.
I am a believer but he is an infidel !!!
by Mona 19 on Mon Oct 13, 2008 02:04 PM PDTWho are we that we should judge others?
How we know who is the most upright man and saint-like?
How we know who is near to creator, while others are outcasts?
How they can flatter themselves and despise others?
They have no rights to look upon any of their fellow men as infidels.
If they are truly men of God, they need to teach people "To be in love and charity with all men", and to promote harmony, unity, peace and goodwill.
But we sadly find the contrary of this.
Dear Bahrom Rook Goo :)
The reality is that these selfish men's hearts are filled with hate and prejeduce...Best wishes to you on your spiritual journey and life.
Kindest regards,Mona ;)
Do not Talk! Instead begin to write...
by Bolhassan Danesh, Academician (not verified) on Mon Oct 13, 2008 08:22 AM PDT...Yes, I must say all religions are more or less the same and by converting from one to the other you are not likely to improve anything ...therefore avoid it all as much as you can and get your energy concentrated more on your Grade Point Average academic work even if you have only started to get some adult education late in life .... now having said that let me read one more time Hegels' philosophy of right and then see what is it that Marx has written a critique of it as his contribution to the study of "Self-consciousness"
I am a kafar too
by Rook goo (not verified) on Mon Oct 13, 2008 07:09 AM PDTfor those who are saying Iranian are 98% Muslim, I was one of them( a proud kafar), you need a reality check.
dorood bar zartosht
by Rook goo (not verified) on Mon Oct 13, 2008 06:54 AM PDTDear Mona
I do respect Zartosht and I'm proud that he was Iranian,although I born in a Muslim family I renounce Islam as my religion after the (Islamic demolition of 1979 in Iran)
Islam is the religion of hate and discrimination, killing and raping minor(9 years old girl).
I'm not a religious person but I do fallow the 3 pillar of zoroastrian religion(goftare nick,pendare nick, raftare nick)
sincerely yours
Bahrom
All religions are the more or less the same when they are in pow
by Agnostic (not verified) on Mon Oct 13, 2008 06:38 AM PDTAll religions are the more or less the same when they are in power. Iranians (mostly muslims) that are
so proud of zoroastrianism are better have a look
at pre-islam history and see how corrupted the MOGHs
(zoroastrian akhoonds) were.
The problem here is not just the Islam or zoroastrianism. The problem is that basic rights are tied into the person's belief. Hopefully one day iranians will start to understand that the answer to their current problems is not some solution that just sounds good and they are completely ignorant about (like the revolution itself).
Show me a Kafar
by Iva (not verified) on Mon Oct 13, 2008 06:30 AM PDTShow me a kafar and I show you a person who is not scared to use her/his brain/knowledge/common sense in oppose to "real" moslem.
Anyhow, islam is cult of demons and one way to keep followers (i.e. Khoms, zekat, tax payers) to Khalifeh is to scared them sh*tless of their moon god, allah. Khameni's order above is simply to force people into this cult .. eventually, the person who receives inherdience must pay his due share to khameni's coffer.
The Only Way to treat the IRI ;0)
by Darius Kadivar on Mon Oct 13, 2008 05:16 AM PDTMessage to IRI Apologists
One of these Days these Boots will Walk on the IRI ;0)
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OU7Nezg7Ls
The Only Way to treat the IRI ;0)
by Darius Kadivar on Mon Oct 13, 2008 05:15 AM PDTMessage to IRI Apologists
One of these Days these Boots will Walk on the IRI ;0)
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OU7Nezg7Ls
A decree from the leader of the Islamic Repuکافر ذمی و کافر حربی
Faribors Maleknasri M.D. (not verified)Mon Oct 13, 2008 04:57 AM PDT
1.To me is the decree a sign of deep solidarity and shared identity which connects moslems. This kind of solidarity is unknown under other believers.
2. Imam Khomaini has said his personal Interpretation. He has not forced any creature to do so. he has only made use of HIS FREEDOM of Speech, not more.
3. The honorable Iranian Nation has founded the islamic Republic of Iran by sacrificing Blood and lives. That Nation is trying since 30 years to introduce more and more islamic laws and rules in social life.
4. if believers of other religions wish to introduce the religious rules of their own, they can make their own revolution and base another system that the Islamic.
In the following I make use of MY FREEDOM of Speech and give comments to comments. I should mention that i am only able to give comments. I do not posess the ability of Primarily production of articles or subjects of any kind. Now my comments:
++Iran has gone in the history books as a country that has been the pioneer of hatred and terrorism under the IRI ruling.
COM:* And the History writer just depend on Energy from Iran. If it does not streams they sit in deepest darkness and their history books contains only blanc papaers.
++No surprise, its(= it is, Corrected by me) Islam, religion of equality, humanity...and peace for all..
** How true. No surprise, its Islam, religion of equality, humanity...and peace for all..
++May Iran someday will be free of the savage clutches of Islamic colonialism!
** The day before have been at least 30 Million Iranians killed in their holly defence war. 1978 "they" needed only to kill 10 Million Iranians to prevent the inauguration of the IslamicRepublic of Iran. In II WorldWar were 12 Millions killed.
کافر ذمی و کافر حربی++** Thank you for reminding
Greeting
کافر ذمی و کافر حربی
نیما سعید راد (not verified)Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:55 PM PDT
در فقه اسلام زرتشتیان نیز همچون مسیحیان و یهودیان کافر حساب شمرده می شوند ولی با بی خدایان فرق دارند. به اینها می گویند کافر ذمی و به بی خدایان می گویند کافر حربی.
به هر حال این مطلب چیزی از مهوع بودن این سند کم نمی کند. من تنها این نکته را گفتم که بدانید چرا لغت »«کافر» استفاده شده.
Wrong statement Mr.
by Kourosh Bamdadan (not verified) on Sun Oct 12, 2008 09:45 PM PDTWrong statement Mr. Sefati... In brief that's why:
//www.golshan.com/pazhoohesh/pazheslam/mohamm...
No surprise, its Islam, religion of equality, humanity...
by Armin (not verified) on Sun Oct 12, 2008 08:38 PM PDTand peace for all... just kidding... I'm an Iranian infidel and Kafar and proud of it. Thanks for posting it.
Kafar oon kasieh keh mizareh
by Anonypishi (not verified) on Sun Oct 12, 2008 06:39 PM PDTKafar oon kasieh keh mizareh melatesh goshneh bemoonan.
...why waste time? Just join
by Nicole (not verified) on Sun Oct 12, 2008 06:19 PM PDT...why waste time? Just join them now and you don't have to wait to become the emperor to start the horror show...
Hekmat eslam
by Anonymous... (not verified) on Sun Oct 12, 2008 04:44 PM PDTIslamic patriotism is an oxymoron. A muslim by definition cannot be patriotic since muslims don't belong to a nation but an Ummah. Patriotism for muslims is like paganism, as Khomeini used to say.
May Iran someday will be free of the savage clutches of Islamic colonialism!
Kaffar in Arabic means a non-believer or an atheist. Someone who doesnot believe in Islam!
It's a pity !
by Mona 19 on Sun Oct 12, 2008 09:27 PM PDTندای امر حضرت زرتشت از سرزمین مقدس ایران بلند شد، و در آن خطه مبارک اظهار امر فرمودند.
جای بسی تاسف که عدهای نه تنها به این موضوع افتخار نمیکنند بلکه پیروان این شخص بزرگوار را به اسم "کافر" خطاب میکنند.
با احترام،مونا
What Comes Around Goes Around...
by Bolhassan Danesh (not verified) on Sun Oct 12, 2008 03:23 PM PDTHonorification
If one day
I become King in Persia
With a good deal of power
The first thing I do is to
Make Ahura Mazda the official
Supreme deity of Pars
And then the second thing I do
Is to convert all Muslims into Zoroastrians
And those who have resisted the conversion
I will make them pay heavy taxes
Beyond and above what the ordinary Persian citizens have been paying
And the third one of course
Is to put a gracious fire holder in every mosque
To light it up for special occasion for honorifcation
B. Danesh, The Impending Emperor (TIE)
What is the problem?
by Hekmat Eslami (not verified) on Sun Oct 12, 2008 02:29 PM PDTWhat is the problem?
This is about Islam and Iran.
Why are you people so unpatriotic?
98% of Iran is Shia 12er Muslim.
Of course the inheretance goes to the Shia 12er Muslim Convert.
The Zoroastrians want it that way.
And by the way, Kafir doesn't translate into a bad word, it means, "An aternative lifestyle."
And Ayat'Allah Seyed Ali Khamenei is a good man. The letter seems like a fake.
Unfair and Unjust - The Mulla way
by Ali Sefati (not verified) on Sun Oct 12, 2008 02:15 PM PDTIts interesting that both Prophet Mohammad and Imams focused their teachings around justice and tolerance of other religions so much but their followers, either Shia or Sunnie seem to overlook that!
nothing new
by MRX1 (not verified) on Sun Oct 12, 2008 01:40 PM PDTwhy are you shocked? what part of islamo fascism don’t you understand? This is a normal behavior for these people. now you understand that dialogue mialogue with this regime as preached by liberal idiots and their colleagues in U.S is nothing but waste of time…
arab occupiers of iran talk...
by Anonymous not zoro (not verified) on Sun Oct 12, 2008 01:11 PM PDTThe master criminal of the regime talks. His arab-culture-based talk is worthless for any iranian. He has blood of thousands of iranians on his hands, torture and oppression of tens of thousands on his evil soul, and wealth of iranian children in his pocket and pockets of his supporters. I sh*t on his islam and all islamists who brought us here and approve of occupation of our country by descendants of arabs for 14 centuries. They have no shame!
The question is
by samsam1111 on Sun Oct 12, 2008 12:07 PM PDTWhy are You shocked?. What part of the term "Qadesiyeh regime", is incomprehensive to You!!!. The Seyed is the head of the A-rab occupation force in V-ran. thx for the post.
I am not surprised at all ,this is only one example.
by darius on Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:42 AM PDTThanks toMOjaheedin, Fadaeian ,Tudeh Party and all those
who made an Evil, a hero and man of god.You are responsible for
30 yrs of torturing,killing, humilations and misery.Please no longer
speak of reform and democracy.You will be the same for more yrs of
pain and agony. You should be ashamed of yourself .Please leave us alone
Oooooooooo...
by Ali P. on Sun Oct 12, 2008 12:05 PM PDTHe calls them "Kaafar"!
"Kaafar" is not a bad word, PG.
Whoever doesn't fall in their definition of "muslim", is called a "Kaafar"!
I'd proudly wear that badge! :-)
Ali P.
You just noticed their crimes
by Amir Nasiri (not verified) on Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:34 AM PDTI hope you don't mean it that only this action has made you embarrassed.
The governmnet of the Mullahs, terrorist, criminals and the fascist since their inception and inauguration of the IRI have been an embarrassment to the Iranian people and Iran.
Iran has gone in the history books as a country that has been the pioneer of hatred and terrorism under the IRI ruling.
Iranian people are the true victims carried out by the Mullah regime.
Only the Iranian people can change their fate and future.
We here abroad can only push for more international condemnation by the IRI criminal activities against Iranian people as well promoting freedom and equality fo r everyone.