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August 21, 2001

* Who do you think you're lying to?

This is what I think about your joke on Iran's national interests being protected by subjugation to Israel: Iran should NEVER kiss Israel's ass ["Just wondering"]. Iran under 10,000 Khomeinis is better than 1 minute of Iranian subjugation to Israel, even if you try to call it "serving Iran's national interest". That certainly is NOT in our interest!

And to those who say that AIPAC (American Israeli Political Action Committee) isn't responsible for sanctions on Iran? Yeah right, tell me another joke! The WHOLE WORLD knows that the US has no foreign policy on Iran which isn't dictated by Israel through corrupt US politicans who are bought and paid for by AIPAC (in fact AIPAC boasts about this!) Just watch how the US president grovels at their feet! Who do you think you're lying to?

And you Israelis had better forget about trying to play on Iranians' sense of nationalism and superiority over Arabs for your own benefit, because we don't care much for Israelis either. In fact Arabs and Jews are the same people. You were all better off under Persian domination anyway. But regardless of the history of 2,500 years ago, let me make this plain and simple today: the akhunds in Iran are bad, the akhhunds in Israel are no better. Sharon is a murderer and war criminal, and so is EVERY SINGLE Israeli who is now living in a Palestinian's house and shooting children in the street. It is a cause of GREAT PRIDE for me that MY COUNTRY, even under the current akhundi government, is only one which is really standing up to you killers and occupiers instead of grovelling at your feet and trying to bargain separately like the rest of those Arab governments.

Furthermore, as an Iranian NATIONALIST, I hold AIPAC completely and totally responsible for the sanctions against my people and my country and all the racist libels promoted by the pro-Israeli US media against Iranians. Every time my grandmother is fingerprinted and mistreated at the airport when she visits her family, I hold Israel and AIPAC responsible. Everytime I hear Iran referred as a "rogue state" and everytime Iranians are stereotyped as "terrorists", I blame it on Israel and AIPAC. Everytime a Hollywood movie is made like "Not Without My Daughter" and the "JAG" TV episodes which shows Iranians as the backward camel jockey terrorist stereotype, I know for a FACT that it was Israeli money that paid for it. When Diane Feinstein calls Iranian students terrorists, I don't blame her - I blame YOU. You think you have long memories?

Iranians have longer memories! And we can hold a grudge just as well as you can. However much we may dislike the akhunds, YOU have no business attacking Iranians. If you were CIVILIZED you would have treated the Palestinians fairly and wouldn't be the terrorist occupiers you are today in the Mideast, so don't try to blame that on Iran or the akhunds. Don't try to blame your failed "peace process" on Iran or continually play the victim: the world has eyes and knows who is responsible for your situation (YOU!). You've made no friends among Iranians with your AIPAC dogs' dirty tricks. So now in addition to the Arabs, you can count on this NATIONALIST SECULAR Iranian as an opponent too. And whatever I may think of he akhunds, YOUR misdeeds against Iran and Iranians won't be fogiven or forgotten either, EVER. I hope very much that Iran (under ANY regime) builds nuclear bombs, very big ones too, and very soon, and puts you people back where you belong so the world finally has some peace from your greedy grasping petty ambitions.

LONG LIVE IRAN - under ANY regime!

Jonnie Black

* Sorry if we upset you

Dear world,

I understand that today you are upset over us, here in Israel. Indeed, it appears that you are quite upset,even angry (outraged?). Indeed, very often you seem to become upset over us. Today it is the excessive use of power over the INNOCENT Hamas leadership. Recently it was the brutal repression of the palestinians. Before that it was Lebanon, before that it was the bombing of the nuclear reactor in Baghdad and the Yom Kippur War and the Sinai campaign. It appears that Jews who triumph and who, therefore, live, upset you most extraordinarily.

Of course, dear world, long before there was an Israel,we -- the Jewish people -- upset you. We upset the German people who elected Hitler and we upset the Austrian people who cheered his entry into Vienna and we upset a whole slew of Slavic nations -- Poles, Slovaks, Lithuanians, Ukranians, Russians, Hungarians, Romanians...

And we go back a long, long way in the history. We upset the Cossacks of Chmieinicki who massacred tens of thousands of us in 1648-49. We upset the crusaders who, on their way to liberate the Holly Land, were so upset at Jews that they slaughtered untold numbers of us. We upset the Roman Catholic church for centuries -- the same church that did its best to define our relationship through Inquisitions. And we upset the arch enemy of the church, Martin Luther, who in his call to burn the synagogues and the Jews within them, showed an admirable Christian ecumenical spirit.

And it is because we became so upset over upsetting you, dear world, that we decided to leave you -- in a manner of speaking -- and establish a Jewish state.The reasoning was that living in close contact with you,a s resident-strangers in the various countries that comprise you, we upset you, irritate you, disturb you. What better notion then, than to leave you and thus love you -- and have you love us? And so we decided to come home -- to the same homeland from which we were driven out 1900 years earlier by a Roman world that, apparently,we also upset.

Alas, dear world, it appears that you are hard to please. Having left you and your pogroms and inquisitions and crusades and holocausts, having taken our leave of the general world to live alone in our own little state -- we continue to upset you.You are upset that we repress the poor Palestinians. You are deeply angered over the fact that we do not give up the lands of 1967, which are clearly the obstacle to peace in the Middle east. Moscow is upset and Washington is upset. Thee radical Arabs are upset and the gentle Egyptian moderates are upset.

Well, dear World, consider the reaction of a normal Jew from Israel. In 1920 and 1921 and 1929 there were no territories of 1967 to impede peace between Jews and Arabs. Indeed there was no Jewish state to upset anybody. Nevertheless the same oppressed and repressed Palestinians slaughtered tens of Jews in Jerusalem, Jaffa, Safed and Hebron. Indded 67 Jews were slaughtered in a single day in Hebron -- in 1929.

Dear world, why did the Arabs -- the Palestinians -- massacre 67 Jews in one day in 1929? Could it have been their anger over Israeli aggression of 1967? And why were 510 Jewish men, women and childrean slaughtered in Arab riots between 1936-39? Was it because Arabs were upset over 1967? And when you, world, proposed a U.N. partition plan in 1947 that would have created a Palestinian state alongside a tiny Israel and the Arabs cried NO and went to war and killed 6,000 Jews -- was that caused by the aggression of 1967?

And, by the way, dear world, why did we not hear you cry then? The poor Palestinians who today kill Jews with mortars, explosives, firebombs and stones are part of the same people who, when they had all the territories now demand to be given their state and drive the Jewish state into the sea. The same twisted faces, the same haterd, the same cry of "ITBACH-AL-YHUD" (massacre the Jews) that we hear and see today,were seen and heard then. The same people, the same dream -- destroy Israel. What they failed to do yesterday, they dream today. But we should not repress them.

Dear world, you stood by during the Holocaust and you stood by in 1948 as seven states launched a war that the Arab League proudly compared to the Mongol massacres. You stood by in 1967 as Nasser, wildly cheered by wild mobs in every Arab capital, vowed to drive the Jews into the sea. And you would stand by tomorrow if Israel were facing extinction. And since we know that the Arabs and Palestinians dream daily of that extinction, we will do everything possible to remain alive in our own land. If that bothers you, dear World, well think of how many times in the past you bothered us.

In any event, Dear world, if you are bothered by us, here is one Jew in Israel who would like to remain alive and guarantee the safety of his childrean and grand childrean. Sorry, if we upset you.

EE

* Big brother

Wow, what an extraordinary propaganda and media control machinery Israel has that David Zohar actually has time to reply to Jahanshah's article personally. ["No wish for conflict"]

It actually makes my spine shiver that my money as a US taxpayer goes into this kind of Israeli media spin, not to mention the bullets and choppers and F-16s that mow down civilans.

Forget national interest (iranian or otherwise), we have a Big Brother of the most horryifying proportions watching anyone who would dare say "boo" to Israel.

Laleh Khalili

* Shame on you

Dear Sir, ["No wish for conflict"]

You are for now no more than an agent provocateur than a diplomat: While addressing Iranians or Persians, as you put it, no diplomat worth his salt would refer to the Persian Gulf as "the Gulf." Shame on you.

All the best,

Guive Mirfendereski

* First get your facts straight

Dear Mr David Zohar,

In regared to your comment ["No wish for conflict"] , shall I take my statements back in regard to Israel ["The Shah was right"] and say that I was wrong?

In writing to a Persian publication and talking to Persians about wishing no conflict, you use "Gulf States Division". Was it the "Gulf States" who saved the Jews 2,500 years ago or the "Persians"?

Dear Mr. Zohar, in case you forgot and can not see the facts for the smell of Arab oil, it is " Persian Gulf" , not "Gulf" as you stated. Before claiming any friendship with Persians, please get your facts and priorities straight.

Peerooz

* Doing what the Nazis did

I am not against Jewish people and I do believe that Nazi Germanuy did wrong. But when I see that Israel does the same towards the Palestinians, I do hate Israel and it has nothing to do with jews, or their religion.

Iran should not have relations with Israel until Israel leaves occopied Palestine and an independent Palestine is born. I can not accept Americans or elsewhere people come to Palesine, take Arab homes and land and make them refugee just because theses emigrants are jews.

As an Iranian I have more in common with Paletinians than with emigrant Jews from the US or Europe.

Alfred Williamson

* If there's peace

It is not Israel which is a threat to Iran and or the Arab World, but Zionism. This was clearly stated by late Egyptian President Anwar Sadat. When will all this blood and hate dissapear? The Middle East is known as the birthplace of most ancient civilizations.

If peace was installed in the region most probably the Middle East like Europe could envisage a form of collaboration between peaceful states with different cultures and languages but bonded together by the turmoils of history.

Regards,

Darius Kadivar

* Closing eyes

The suggestion that Iran and Israel should be "friends" on the grounds that they're both opposed to "Arabs" or because of some misinterpretation of actions of Cyrus the Great is ridiculous racist nonsense ["Friendly stance"]. And Israel was protecting its own nuclear monopoly, and wasn't doing Iran any favors, by bombing Iraq's nuclear reactors. If Israel is really so worried about nuclear threats to Iran, then Israel should get rid of its own missiles which are pointed at us.

Leaving aside the fact that Israel is a vicious hateful murderous racist state hell-bent on the eradication of an entire people and the subjugation of the Middle East based on some messianic claim to racial/religious/ethnic superiority, the suggestion that the current policy of opposing Israel is contrary to Iran's "national interests" does not stand scrutiny.

How exactly will closing one's eyes to the plight of the Palestinians and accepting Israel's blatantly illegal conduct promote Iran's "national interests"? Is it because you think that AIPAC would then lay off the sanctions issue and would allow the US and Iran to re-establish ties? Even assuming this were true, then how are Iran's "national interests" served by allowing Israel to have the final say over Iran's foreign policies and relations with other countries? Should we seek Israel's stamp of approval on everything else Iran does too? Is that what you call promoting Iran "national interests"?

Mohammadi

* Enemy is very clear

In response to Mr. Abdol S. Soofi, ["Ask yourself"], I want to say that Arabs have killed millions of Iranians starting from 1,400 years ago when they also forcefully converted our people to their backward religion, upto the 20th century when Saddam invaded our country and was helped by all Arabs including the Palastinian terrorists.

On the other hand the Jews have never invaded our country and have not killed any Iranians and have never tried to force us to convert to their religion nor to pay jazieh (infidels' tax). The Jews don't call us with derogatory words like Ajam and Majoos. So the enemy is very clear here.

Israel has problems with the Islamic Republic because the mollas are determined to destroy Israel. I can not really blame the Jews for looking after their interests.

Kaveh Ahangar

* Free fom rhetoric

Dear Prof. Mirfendereski,

It is always so educational to read your writings ["Testimonials", "Iran divided"). Free fom rhetoric and emotive outbursts, your analyses of the geo-political issues should be studied by all those students of foreign relations who wish to learn a balanced account of the historical events that lead to political developments.

Your monthly column is indeed a redeeming feature to read.

Sincerely,

Parviz

* What about YOUR feelings?

I read your article "Can't walk away", and I have a few things to say about it. I do admire you for trying to stay close to your family, even though it's eating you insides, but you still want to keep them happy. I have one question for you though: Is anyone trying to keep you happy? What about YOUR feelings?

Iranian parents have a lot of love for their children, and are willing to do anything for them. The only problem is that they have one mind set, and they can't change that. It's like they are trying to hold onto what they have left in them of Iran. Their beliefs, and values. This is why they come across as being selfish.

I really think you should grab life as you see it today, and do what YOU think is right. Do you want to grow up to be old, and regret what you COULD have done with your life? Well, it's going to be too late. DO IT NOW!!!

I also think it's unfair that parents use the term "ma be khater shoma oomadeem eenja." That may be true to an extent, that they have left their roots behind so that we (their children) can have a better future, but is it also not true that in some instances their life is better here too?

I know every person is different, and that every family has its own problems and issues, but making the children feel guilty is just not fair. Respect your parents, but also explain to them that you have a life too, and that you need to adapt to your new surroundings. You are from a different generation, just like they are to their parents. Times have changed, and so have people.

Maybe the problem with us Iranians is that we are scared of confrontation. We don't like to deal with problems head on, so we just ignore it, and hope that it will go away. Just remember that standing up to your parents won't ruin your relationship with them. They will love you no matter what.

Good luck, and remember to look after Number One (yourself).

Sharareh

* Hotter

In response to F. Rostam' s "Let's be realistic", I see the truth differently. From what I saw a couple of weeks ago in Iran, the present National Football Team is hotter than I have seen them in a long time.

There are young, aggressive players coming up the ranks like: Nikbakhte-Vahedi, Rezaie (left defense), Kavianpoor, and then there are Karimi and Daei up forward with a lot of poise. Defense is getting help from Bagheri who seems to be moving backwards as far as line up is concerned. His next position is either in goal or behind the goal!

And, what's wrong with players trying to get out of Iran and on to better life? I think Iran is playing good now. Best wishes for them.

Respectfully,

Amir Forati

* Pretty typical American

In Setareh Sabety's piece "No walls", she describes the virtues of being free to not know your neighbor. She lists this as one of the positive features of American society, of being "American".

Well, I'm a pretty typical American and I think that I can say without hesitation that this feature of American society is something that is looked upon as a negative product of modern times. I actually grew up on the "prairie" and folks were pretty well aware of their neighbors, as I recall.

Now I am one of the American nomads, like so many others, uprooted strangers in their own land.

Brad Hernlem

* We are made up of two cultures

This is in response to a piece written by a Persian woman who feels like she can't claim a home ["Am I homeless?"]. Although all of us Persians who have been raised in the US are anything but a hundred percent Iranian, we all feel something very inherently inside of us, a connection with every Iranian we meet, whether they be the BMW- driving, Tehrangeles Persian or an old man in Shiraz, there is sense of identification and connection felt between two people from the same land.

However, I don't believe most of us will feel our homeland in Iran. Those of us, like myself, who have never even seen the country, cannot help but realize that walking on Iranian soil will fall short of giving us all the answers. I do believe that being in an area where everyone and everything speak the language and culture of our mothers will contribute to a sense of belonging that has never been known.

However, an isolation that can cut through the heart will also exist for us Persian-Americans that visit Iran. The isolation is born by being surrounded in an environment free of the beliefs and cornerstones that have been embedded in our personalities. Freedoms of speech, equality, and capitalism have all influenced us as Americans. These points are generally accepted among the Iranians in the US. So if these premises exist, then where is our home? I have thought about the "home notion for quite some time.

Visiting Barcelona, Spain, and I initially felt more at home than I had in the US. This fascinated me, and the only conclusion derived was that it was a passionate culture and thus I related. However, it still did not feel completely "right.

I have plainly rejected the pursuant of a "home country because I have realized that we are bicultural, and correspondingly, there is no country that is clearly homogeneous in its biculturalism. The truth is, we are a new breed: the Iranian-American breed. The challenge before us is the constant effort towards understanding this and reconciling the dichotomy.

We are made up of two cultures that are on opposite sides of the spectrum. One of the most important moments in my life was the day I decided to love the Iranian side of me: the irrational, passionate, poetic, and expressive side. We are at an advantage, we have opposing qualities that create amazing, well-rounded people. So in labeling a country or place as a home, perhaps we can never do that, but maybe that disposes us to be more receptive to the world.

Mary Abolfazli

* u never know

Dear Kobra Khanoom,

This letter is for the young man that wrote you about the long distance friendship he made over the net, and if he should pursue this girl. I want to tell this young man, that yes definitley by all means please go and see this girl!

I was in a similar situation a year ago. I met my soon to be fiancee on the net! He lives four hours away by plane in another city and we have been together for this long and planing on geting married soon! So please don't worry about distance. It's not so bad, and u never know what can come out of it.

Nazanin Kazeme

* I am a straight Iranian woman

Dear writer, ["Not unnatural"]

I have few comments for you:

1- It is not right to put down or underestimate people and say "you should study more." How are you so sure that I have not studied enough?

2- I do not consider myself a "spokesperson for the Iranian people." I just wrote my point of view based on howe Iranians, Americas and some other nationalities I work with think about homosexuality

3- I wish I had kept all emails I received during last week that were pleased to read my letter.

4- I am not a male and I am a straight Iranian woman who does not assume herself as knowlegable as you are. But at least I am familiar enough with my own culture and have had some cultural studies.

Good luck in gaining all of your "rights".

Ocean Sky

P.S: I am not really interested in getting any response from you.

* Don't speak for me

Recently an accusing letter by Mr. or Mrs. Mehraban was published on iranian.com about me! ["Many don't want to leave"] He writes an absolutely impolite letter blaming every problem on the planet earth on me and my letter! I would appreciate if Mr. Mehraban kindly points out those sentences that slightly suggest that I have blamed anything on anyone.

What surprises me, as the writer of "More blessings", is that in fact, I am always careful and often use facts, data and statistics in my writings. What I like to know is which parts of my letter has "MAN DAR AVARDI reasons" as this person points out so intelligently! And I am sorry that Mr. Mehraban "HESAABI HERS MIKHORI"! That has not been my intention. I prefer Mehraban not to speak his own mind on my behalf. I am an adult with enough intelligence to know what I write .

Unlike what Mehraban writes in his letter, I did enjoy reading Mr. Ali-Reza Kasra and Mr. Abbas Saffari-Fard's letters otherwise I would not have read and/or commented on them. Mehraban writes:"If you haven't been to Iran for a long time and just heard about it, please don't make quick conclusions. So many people still enjoy living there in spite of hardships and cannot or don't want to leave their country " etc.

Well sir, I invite you to read the article I wrote "Buried ashes" to get a better picture of what I think and please stop representing me. Just because you have left Iran in recent years doesn't make you an expert on the matter. Furthermore why do you suggest that you know Iran more than every other Iranian? Besides, I want you to know that where you write about me having "KHESLATHAAYE MAKHSOOSE IRANI" I take it as a compliment and am very proud to be Iranian born, although you seem to be absolutely ashamed of being Iranian and having Iranian Kheslat.

Mehraban writes:"Haalaa ye kasi mesle Sheema khaanome Kalbasi (va amsaal) peidaa mishe va az hamsaaye Irani va az second generation racism dar Iran sohbat mikone. Khaanom jaan, shomaa age deletoon poreh berin be doostaaye non-Iranian ghor bezanin ke listener khoobi hastand va mohite kheili khoobi baaraye shomaa faraaham kardan".

You could not have been more wrong. What I wrote was about Iranians as first and second generations living in the West/USA facing racism in their lifetime. Why do you write that I should discuss matters with foreigners? I find most Iranians intelligent and pleasent enough . Please do not enforce yourself and your opinions on others.

I hope you will write in a more peaceful manner and choose an intellectual path to debate your ideas without attacking others.

With Kind Regards,

Sheema Kalbasi

* Do not take it away

I just wanted to say that the section of your web pages dedicated to Iranian movie and music stars is PRICELESS. I refer to it and review one or two sets of your collection for each person on a regular basis.

Please do NOT take this away. It is the ONLY reminisce of the past, of the people who are mostly banned from working today, and my memories of Iran as a child. Please do NOT take this site away.... Please!!

Thank you,

Behrad

* Find someone

Are you in contact with the people in Iran? Can you help me find someone there? I worked in Iran, in 1977-78 I made many friends there and have thought about them many times. I was based in Esfahan. This is the first email I`ve ever seen about Iran, appox. two months ago Iran got a new leader and I sent him an email wishing all the people of Iran good luck and happiness. Also hope everything goes well with your site.

Lee Gorby

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