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April 30, 2003

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* Whether you're a pagan or a Christian

Your arrogance is mind-boggling [Did anyone care?]. "America" is alot more successful than Iran, so what right have you to complain? The only thing that comes out of your mouth is bitterness and complaints, like a defunct malcontent. Eventually you'll die and all your quacking will mean nothing. You care more for old junk than you care for today's reality.

All your complaining about America and the complaints of billions of pagan sandniggers won't come to anything either, because in the end it's the man and woman whom God favors that will be MASTER, while the man and woman whom God dislikes will have nothing but pain and defeat.

People like you never learn. Just keep crowing about the "glory" of an age you never lived in - it means nothing. The only thing that counts in this world is whether you're a pagan or a Christian, SO CLEARLY YOU'RE NOT A WISE PERSON. The Bible predicted Bush's invasion in the book of Daniel, and describes it perfectly. Apparently, he'll keep on invading until an apparent assassnation, but you and your viewpoints can't change reality.

When the end comes, all this ancient junk and new junk will be recycled, and better stuff will be built by good sensible people. Instead of wasting your time delving into cosmopolitan crap, you should study the word of God - then you'd know what will happen next. Your intellectual diahrrea is nothing but dung and nobody cares.

Have a nice day.

Steven

* Do you get it?

Mr. Friedman on his editorial of 4/20/03 ("The Third Bubble", New York Times) assumes that because Sadam was defeated, the terrorism bubble was contained too. Mr. Friedman please wake up and please smell the coffee, please use Turkish coffee that might help you come to reality of modern life as you so proudly assume can only be achieved in America or by American way.

You say the terrorism bubble was the product of a kind of temporary insanity, in which basic norms were ignored. Mr. Friedman, dying for what is rightly yours is not insanity, and it is not temporary at all. It will only end if we lived in a just and civilized world.

It is not really that complicated a problem, you make it complicated in order to hide the true nature of the problem. Young people get involved in terrorism only because the rule of law as you so proudly advertise does not work. It is very simple, we the people of the Middle East do not want western people on our soil, period. DO YOU GET IT? How many times do we have to tell you this, go home and stay home.

Now you need our oil and other natural resources, you need our market in order to pay for these petrodollars. Yes you have a problem, but it is your problem and deal with it by paying not stealing. In Islam we cut the hands of thieves, terrorism is a way of cutting hands of the thieves. You do not like our laws, it is our land, it is our laws, stay out of our land.

Mr. Bush, no we do not hate you because you have democracy in your own land, we hate you because you are a thief. Why is not it a temporary insanity for Mr. Bush that was barely elected in an election that was full of fraud to tell us that you are with us or against us? Or we don''t let another superpower to exist, or no one else besides us should have nuclear bomb, but it is insanity for us to tell Mr. Bush, Sir we never voted for you, and you are not the president of the world.

Mohammad R. Khaneghahi
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* Talk of "Azari independence"

I fully agree with Megabiz on his letter on "We might be ignorant but not stupid". I am an IRANIAN with an Azari mother and a Kurdish father. I regard myself as an Iranian first, proud to be of Kurdish and Azari heritage. Azerbaijan's original name is in fact Adarpadegan. The talk of "Azari independence" is simply swept aside by Azaris who are aware of Iranian history and their culture, this is likewise with Iranian Kurds.

LONG LIVE IRAN!

Heresh Rezavandi

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* About Bakhtiar

Dear Ms Fariba Amini,

I read your article "The first moderate" about Bakhtiar. I congratulate you because it is very rich in information and enjoyed by a good analysis.

I do not know, if you know that there is a site developed by NAMIR for Bakhtiar. I invite you to look at this site and if you agree we can place your article on this site namir.org.

Mahmoud Hejazi

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* Wall of prejudice

I just read a letter here by a Jacob Cohen, "Don't pat yourself on the back".

Apparently this person, Jacob, received an email (as he indicated in his letter/comment) and that gave him the right in his mind (or so he claims, questionably) to insult and belittle and lie, and in the process defame, and bash all Iranians and our entire history and identity in his own twisted and prejudiced mind here.

Jacob cohen is so uneducated about Iran's history and civilization that I won't even bother with responding to his nonsensical mouth-foaming comments of hatred (other than one comment at the end of this note, under p.s.).

But for the rest of friends and respected persons who visit Iranian.com, for those of you who are interested in learning about the truth as to how Iran (among other countries and civilizations) contributed to world civilizations, humanity, culture, the sciences, the arts, architecture, technology, industry, religion, national administration and infra-structure, I suggest you go find a copy of the book (in Persian) "Sahm-e Iran dar tamadon-e jahaan" (title's translation: Iran's role/share in World Civilization) by Hamid Nayer-Nouri. Rest assured, you won't find a program in any American TV channel (such as The Learning Channel/TLC, The Discovery Channel, History Channel, PBS, or any major TV Channels having a program mentioning Iran's contributions, *in truth*, to world civilization).

I have yet to see one program on this subject, not even one. Maybe these channels have people like Jacob Cohen as their directors, managers, experts. Maybe that explains why we have yet to see such information and knowledge submitted to Americans for once. Maybe it's due to that wall of prejudice and ignorance called East and West as maintained and preserved by the prejudiced and ignorant ones justifying their own actions and self-interests in twisting the truth.

Let's not even mention how Iran's Zoroastrianism influenced Judaism (and for that matter, Christianity, Islam, etc.) for that will really make Jacob's version of * manufactured history *, boil even more (mind you, it was not by force on the Iranians' part, but by free will and decision of the Jews themselves).

Kaveh T

PS. Jacob you wrote, "Is freedom from slavery a gift? Freedom from slavery is a God given right. Please don't pat yourself on the back." I suggest you go and read a few history books to see what was going on the world through the past many tens of centuries (including the 20th century, and around the world), and not in theory (maybe you will appreciate Iran and Iranians more).

Also, how come you don't offer the same "right", the same "God given right" that you so speak of and demand, to the Palestinians in the 21st century? Is it because you justify your personal fanaticism under more excuses and lies? Last time I checked with my Jewish friends in Iran, they were and are free to own their own property, own and run their own business, and are free to travel and move around as they please (as it ought to be).

It seems them "sand niggers" (the way you called Iranians) can teach you a thing or two about humanity, and civilization. All decent people around the world are worthy of respect, and with no distancing wall of lies of ignorance and unjustified hate, such as the East and West (or under any other names and titles).

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* Dissention is not beneficial

After reading your article [Beating Reza about the Bush], I have come to the conclusion that "Persians" or Iranians as you like to say, are nothing but a bunch of envious individuals. You never give credit where credit is due! For example: if a person is successful and has made it to the top of his/her profession, instead of praising him/her for their success, you rain on their parade by referring to him/her as a "katchal" or "prostitute".

HRH Reza Pahlavi is bringing attention to the issue regarding my Iran -- so why do you ridicule him? It is envy...pure envy! It is this type of behaviour that opened the door for the Arab invasion of "Persia" 1400 years ago, not to mention the second Arab invasion of Iran in 1979 (as Islam is an Arab concoction)!

My suggestion is that you throw your support behind Shahzadeh Reza Pahlavi, as His Majesty is leading the charge to rid Iran of the vermin regime referred to as the "Mullahcracy". Dissention is not beneficial for the cause, unless you are a Mojahed or a Hezbollahi.

BK

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* Jumping to conclusions

I just finished reading Mr. Kasra Ardavan, article "Beating Reza about the Bush" I first came across the Rastakhiz website to which he is refering to a year or two ago. At the time I was also shocked to see its content, insulting the Crown Prince but they truly seem to be a marginal group in Sweden composed of God knows what. They seem to have obscure ideas and intentions and certainly monarchists and supporters of the Third Wave mouvement must keep an eye open on these people.

Nevertheless I think that Mr. Ardavan jumps to conclusions very quickly. I personally do not know the Crown Prince nor belong to any political party, nor intend to for that matter but I express myself on this free tribune which is the excellent Iranian Times. However I see in Mr. Ardavan's article only makes suppositions and slandering towards monarchists or people who have some respect for the Constitutional Monarchy
as a possible system of government for a first and foremost democratic Iran tomorrow. I truly do not see what is the true intentions of your article but to slander the efforts made by the Crown Prince to rally support for
Democracy in Iran.

The Crown Princes, has never be it in interviews articles, speaches or on his official website rezapahlavi.org have I come across anything that would want to distinguish Persia and Iran as you seem to want to deliberately suggest. I was even quite surprised to come across articles on his website which do not necessarily support his point of view regarding his role as a future monarch such as this accusing him of being the puppet of the US and Israel. Which appears on his website in the News on Iran section.

The only slogan of the Crown Prince ( I prefer this denomination if you do not mind) has been "Today only Unity" for a free and fair referandum on the future of Democracy in Iran. In his efforts he has tried to rally as much republicans as monarchists and it is not a surprise if maybe some very old staunch monarchists may not totally adher to this approach, some of them may even be marginal fanatics which I do not think is the case of most supporters of the Crown Prince including the monarchists. Contrary to your assumptions it seems that the Crown Prince's message has actually been heard by many Iranians be it in the Diaspora or Iran, which may explain your personal frustration.

Darius KADIVAR

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